Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Hi Harry. For lunch, why did you put c 15? with the question mark after 15. Good job geting the bgs down! Try to determine if 4 units lower your bgs x points over the next few days. Perhaps 4 units lowers your bgs only 40 or so points? regards, Re: advice for Harry > 9/26/2003 > > Last night: > > Lantus 15 > > G 81 > > Consumed 3 carbs > > Breakfast: > > G 104 > > D 15 > > H 7 > > Two hours post breakfast: > > G 120 > > Lunch: > > G 120 > > C 15? > > H 11 > > Two hours post lunch: > > G 94 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 not certain if you had it in a bag but always purchase bread in a bag since it shows the carb grams accurate and I always round up. I.E if it is 12, I say 15. If it is 22, I say 25. If it is 27, I say 30. I don't say 30 if it is 23 etc. I just up it a few points if it is like 2 or 3 from the next number up. regards, Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > 9/26/2003 > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > G 81 > > > > > > Consumed 3 carbs > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > G 104 > > > > > > D 15 > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > Two hours post breakfast: > > > > > > G 120 > > > > > > Lunch: > > > > > > G 120 > > > > > > C 15? > > > > > > H 11 > > > > > > Two hours post lunch: > > > > > > G 94 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 I think you got it down Harry! Great job man! Hahaha! It took you only about 1.5 weeks or so and can you imagine if you had to do this with your doctor seeing him only every two weeks how long it would have taken? Hats off to Harry and lots of applause from . Good job my friend! regards, Re: advice for Harry > 9/29/2003 > > Last night: > > G 81 > > Had a beer and some nuts, very few > > Lantus 15 > > Breakfast: > > G 85 > > C 15 > > H 7 > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > G 95 > > Lunch: > > G 85 > > C 15 > > H 7 > > Two hours post Lunch: > > G 80 > > Supper: > > G 91 > > C 15 > > H 7 > > Two hours post supper: > > G 93 > > Lantus 15 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Yes, I think I have it now. All I had to do was to follow your advice and 's advice and stop experimenting and stick to the same number of carbohydrates consumed at each meal and regulate dosage of Humalog accordingly. It turns out in my case that the dose of Humalog to Carb is almost a 1:2 relationship, since I also have insulin resistance. So in my case it takes one unit of Humalog for every two grams of Carbohydrates consumed. In a few days I will try doubling the Carb intake and the Humalog intake to see if 14 units of Humalog will handle 30 grams of carbs. I really do thank you for your support and encouragement. It was very helpful in assisting me to get to a good blood glucose level. Re: advice for Harry > > > > 9/29/2003 > > > > Last night: > > > > G 81 > > > > Had a beer and some nuts, very few > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > Breakfast: > > > > G 85 > > > > C 15 > > > > H 7 > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > G 95 > > > > Lunch: > > > > G 85 > > > > C 15 > > > > H 7 > > > > Two hours post Lunch: > > > > G 80 > > > > Supper: > > > > G 91 > > > > C 15 > > > > H 7 > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > G 93 > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Your quite welcome Harry. You are a success story of someone who has great determination and have shown every single person on this list that it is very possible to get your blood sugars under control in a short time by exercising discipline and doing what you know to do. By you exercising your will to control this disease Harry, you will control it, and it will not control you! Good job! I have been telling all my diabetic friends about you and they are so excited to hear about you. Yes, in a few days, feel free to try eating 30 grams of carbs at a meal. Like I stated earlier, I'd say to only do this starting at lunch and see the results. Don't do it for every meal since your body may freak out at it smiles. If 30 grams at lunch work out for you, then do 30 grams for lunch for like 3 days at 30 grams to see if you can maintain good results. If lunch is good after three days at 30 grams, then do dinner at 30 grams and test that for 3 days as well. I would suggest to keep your breakfast at 15 grams all the time since that liver is dumping sugar and if you got your bgs under control in the morning at 15 grams, don't screw with it!! People I know would kill for your morning sugars Harry. The morning sugars are very hard to get under control so again, don't screw with that man. You have had it pretty easy getting your morning bgs under control and I know diabetics who have tried this going on 8 months now with minimal success yet. Please, as you test each day, please post your results since they are very encouraging to me and others. Thanks for keeping us updated with your testing results. hats off to Harry! BTW I know many others on the list are doing what Harry is doing but only lurking so hats off to you as well! regards, Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > 9/29/2003 > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > G 81 > > > > > > Had a beer and some nuts, very few > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > > > G 95 > > > > > > Lunch: > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > Two hours post Lunch: > > > > > > G 80 > > > > > > Supper: > > > > > > G 91 > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > > > G 93 > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 9/30/2003 Last night: G 93 Glass of wine for a nightcap Lantus 15 Breakfast: G 87 C 15 H 7 Two hours post Breakfast: G 109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 You have done very well, Harry. Goive yourself a pat on the back1! Re: advice for Harry Yes, I think I have it now. All I had to do was to follow your advice and 's advice and stop experimenting and stick to the same number of carbohydrates consumed at each meal and regulate dosage of Humalog accordingly. It turns out in my case that the dose of Humalog to Carb is almost a 1:2 relationship, since I also have insulin resistance. So in my case it takes one unit of Humalog for every two grams of Carbohydrates consumed. In a few days I will try doubling the Carb intake and the Humalog intake to see if 14 units of Humalog will handle 30 grams of carbs. I really do thank you for your support and encouragement. It was very helpful in assisting me to get to a good blood glucose level. Re: advice for Harry > > > > 9/29/2003 > > > > Last night: > > > > G 81 > > > > Had a beer and some nuts, very few > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > Breakfast: > > > > G 85 > > > > C 15 > > > > H 7 > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > G 95 > > > > Lunch: > > > > G 85 > > > > C 15 > > > > H 7 > > > > Two hours post Lunch: > > > > G 80 > > > > Supper: > > > > G 91 > > > > C 15 > > > > H 7 > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > G 93 > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 109 is fine Harry so don't freak, k? regards, Re: advice for Harry > 9/30/2003 > > Last night: > > G 93 > > Glass of wine for a nightcap > > Lantus 15 > > Breakfast: > > G 87 > > C 15 > > H 7 > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > G 109 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 9/30/2003 Last night: G 93 Glass of wine for a nightcap Lantus 15 Breakfast: G 87 C 15 H 7 Two hours post Breakfast: G 109 Lunch: G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise so high? Do I need more Lantus at night? C 34 H 17 Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > > > > 9/29/2003 > > > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > > > G 81 > > > > > > > > Had a beer and some nuts, very few > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > > > > > G 95 > > > > > > > > Lunch: > > > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > Two hours post Lunch: > > > > > > > > G 80 > > > > > > > > Supper: > > > > > > > > G 91 > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > > > > > G 93 > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Harry. one thing you'll find out is that you can't master this all the time, only 90% of the time. However, I'd like to point out that you had wine prior to bed which is the only change in the equation that I can see. That could have caused this effect with your body a YMMV issue. Don't drink the wine tonight prior to bed, drink the can of beer you normally have, and see how it goes tomorrow. Again, this just may be a YMMV issue. regards, Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/29/2003 > > > > > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > > > > > G 81 > > > > > > > > > > Had a beer and some nuts, very few > > > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > > > > > > > G 95 > > > > > > > > > > Lunch: > > > > > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > > > Two hours post Lunch: > > > > > > > > > > G 80 > > > > > > > > > > Supper: > > > > > > > > > > G 91 > > > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > > > > > > > G 93 > > > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 9/30/2003 Last night: G 93 Glass of wine for a nightcap Lantus 15 Breakfast: G 87 C 15 H 7 Two hours post Breakfast: G 109 Lunch: G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise so high? Do I need more Lantus at night? C 34 H 17 Two hours post lunch: No reading done. Supper: G 85 C 37 H 18 Two hours post supper: G 75 Ate a handful of nuts. Lantus 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 A few things here Harry. First, why did you skip your 2 hour test after eating 30 grams for lunch? Since that was your first attempt at it, I think it was quite crucial to test 2 hours past eating that 30 grams for the first time. Unless, of course, your wife wasn't around to help you test so that would explain skipping it. Secondly, for dinner, your sugar was 87 and you ate 37 grams of carbs for dinner. That should have been 14 units of H since 7 grams past 30 isn't that much. I seen you took 18 units of H to cover 37 grams of carbs and noticed you were lower at 75 bgs 2 hours past dinner. I predict that was some guess work in taking 18 H to cover 37 grams of carbs instead of 14 H to cover the 37 grams of carbs but could be wrong. Can you show me how you calculated mathematically 18 units of H to cover 37 grams of carbs for dinner? regards, Re: advice for Harry > 9/30/2003 > > Last night: > > G 93 > > Glass of wine for a nightcap > > Lantus 15 > > Breakfast: > > G 87 > > C 15 > > H 7 > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > G 109 > > Lunch: > > G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise so high? > Do I need more Lantus at night? > > C 34 > > H 17 > > Two hours post lunch: > > No reading done. > > Supper: > > G 85 > > C 37 > > H 18 > > Two hours post supper: > > G 75 > > Ate a handful of nuts. > > Lantus 15 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 10/1/2003 Last night: G 75 Ate a handful of nuts. Lantus 15 Breakfast: G 122 C 12 H 9 Two hours post Breakfast: G 115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Trying to make sense here. 7 for 15 and 14 for 30 is almost a 1 to 2 ratio, isn't it? Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > > > > 9/30/2003 > > > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > > > G 93 > > > > > > > > Glass of wine for a nightcap > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > > > G 87 > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > > > > > G 109 > > > > > > > > Lunch: > > > > > > > > G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise so > > > high? > > > > Do I need more Lantus at night? > > > > > > > > C 34 > > > > > > > > H 17 > > > > > > > > Two hours post lunch: > > > > > > > > No reading done. > > > > > > > > Supper: > > > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > > > C 37 > > > > > > > > H 18 > > > > > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > > > > > G 75 > > > > > > > > Ate a handful of nuts. > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 my point is what you stated *almost* but it is not. I.E 7 times 2 is 14, not 15, and 14 times 2 is 28, not 30 etc. Yes, they are very close but really all I am saying is stick to what works. We were not doing 1 to 2 ratios at all we were doing 7 units of H per 15 grams an that figure worked perfectly for you. In other words, stick to what you know works and don't veer from it IMO... but hey, I'm just stating IMO... regards, Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/30/2003 > > > > > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > > > > > G 93 > > > > > > > > > > Glass of wine for a nightcap > > > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > > > > > G 87 > > > > > > > > > > C 15 > > > > > > > > > > H 7 > > > > > > > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > > > > > > > G 109 > > > > > > > > > > Lunch: > > > > > > > > > > G 121 (I haven't eaten any thing since breakfast. Why did it rise > so > > > > high? > > > > > Do I need more Lantus at night? > > > > > > > > > > C 34 > > > > > > > > > > H 17 > > > > > > > > > > Two hours post lunch: > > > > > > > > > > No reading done. > > > > > > > > > > Supper: > > > > > > > > > > G 85 > > > > > > > > > > C 37 > > > > > > > > > > H 18 > > > > > > > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > > > > > > > G 75 > > > > > > > > > > Ate a handful of nuts. > > > > > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 that's the problem Harry, you hypothesize to much and veer off what you know works and start trying little experiments. Those little experiments are gunna get you off the straight and narrow. I'd encourage you to not do that if possible smiles. Must be your psych training hehehehe regards, Re: advice for Harry > > > > > > > 10/1/2003 > > > > > > Last night: > > > > > > G 75 > > > > > > Ate a handful of nuts. > > > > > > Lantus 15 > > > > > > Breakfast: > > > > > > G 122 > > > > > > C 12 > > > > > > H 9 > > > > > > Two hours post Breakfast: > > > > > > G 115 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 try uping your lantus to 16 this evening since your morning went up to 107 and 2 hours past eating breakfast you were going up and that 7 humalog should have covered it perfectly. If you do decide to up the lantus to 16 this evening, for each meal, stick to 15 grams and 7 units of H to cover it and that should bring you in range 2 hours past eating. regards, Re: advice for Harry > 10/9/2003 > > Last night: > > Two and a half hours post supper: > > G 92 > > Lantus 15 > > Breakfast: > > G 107 > > C 15 > > H 8 > > Two hours post breakfast: > > G 120 > > Lunch: > > G 120 > > C 15 > > H 12 > > Two hours post lunch: > > G 70 > > Ate a couple of popsickles > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I think you need to get a new bottle of insulin, Harry. Re: advice for Harry 10/13/2003 Last night: Two hours post supper: G 105 Three and a half hours post supper: G 101 Lantus 17 Breakfast today: G 164 (seems very high considering no carbs consumed since the 101 reading) C 15 H 16 One hours post breakfast: G 215 Three hours post breakfast: 146 The results above make little sense to me unless I have a massive infection of which I am unaware or my insulin is no good. Actually, instead of having 15 carbs for breakfast, I only had 13 carbs for breakfast this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 10/15/2003 Last night: Two hours post supper: G 103 Lantus 17 Breakfast today: G 122 C 15 H 10 Two hours post breakfast: G 133 *** 10/14/2003 Last night: Two and a half hours post supper: G 128 Lantus 17 Breakfast today: G 158 C 15 H 15 Two hours post breakfast: G 159 Lunch: G 138 C 15 H 14 Two hours post lunch: G 82 Supper: G 90 C 30 H 15 Two hours post supper: G 103 Lantus 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 10/21/2003 Last night: Two hours post supper: Walked 2.1 miles G 77 Three hours post supper: No carbs consumed since walk and supper. G 97 Lantus increased to 18 units Breakfast today: G 145 C 15 H 13 Two hours post breakfast: G 121 Lunch: G 125 C 15 H 12 Two hours post lunch: G 118 Supper: G 103 C 15 H 8 Two hours post supper: G 108 Lantus increased to 19 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Harry inspite of the infection you are fighting on the leg, your bgs are doing quite well. Most would be in the 200 range so keep on keeping on. regards, Re: advice for Harry > 10/21/2003 > > Last night: > > Two hours post supper: > > Walked 2.1 miles > > G 77 > > Three hours post supper: > > No carbs consumed since walk and supper. > > G 97 > > Lantus increased to 18 units > > Breakfast today: > > G 145 > > C 15 > > H 13 > > Two hours post breakfast: > > G 121 > > Lunch: > > G 125 > > C 15 > > H 12 > > Two hours post lunch: > > G 118 > > Supper: > > G 103 > > C 15 > > H 8 > > Two hours post supper: > > G 108 > > Lantus increased to 19 units > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 10/22/2003 Last night: Two hours post supper: G 108 Lantus increased to 19 units Breakfast today: G 133 C 15 H 13 Two hours post breakfast: G 75 Lunch: G 88 C 28 H 14 Three hours post lunch: G 100 Supper: G 100 C 60 H 28 Two hours post supper: G 65 Took half of a glucose tablet. Lantus 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 10/24/2003 Last night: Two hours post supper: G 133 I forgot to calculate the additional grams of carbs with my ten ounces of wine and a handful of nuts just prior to supper, so my Humalog dose was insufficient. Oh well, I will have to count better tomorrow and dose accordingly. Lantus 19 Breakfast today: G 124 C 15 H 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Hi Harry. You have your lantus at 19 last check. To adjust lantus, it goes like this: * take lantus at same time each evening, don't vary on the time you take it * fasting bgs must be 80 to 100 * eat 5 to 10 grams of *non-quick* acting carbs, like a can of green beans 8 grams. * test 1 hour later see if is under a 20 point increase * test 2 hours later see if is under a 20 point increase * test three hours later see if you are coming back down to 80/100 range * by next meal should be 80 to 100 * do this for lunch and dinner as well... 1 can of green beans 8 slow acting carbs and watch if the lantus keeps it down. * after doing this test for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, study the pattern and see if it is working. If it is not, then increase the lantus accordingly. However, you may just have to wing it since I don't think for a second day of testing you will want to eat 3 cans of green beans only again? If you do, that is fine, however, by studying this the first time, you will get a rough/pretty good idea of how much to increase it. Once the lantus is able to keep down your bgs 80 to 100 range pre meals, then you got your lantus good and then adjust the humalog. However, your doing this way to early IMO you still have slight infection in your body so your not going to get accurate results and you'll have to readjust ratios again once the infection is fully gone. I'm certain you won't listen LOL but hey, that's our Harry for ya smiles. It will take probably about 2 months past it being gone for you to accurately adjust this stuff so I'd say don't put to much into it right now but that is your call. cheers Re: advice for Harry > 10/25/2003 > > Last night: > > Two hours post supper: > > G 128 > > Ate nuts to purposefully raise glucose blood level for test in the morning. > > Lantus increased to 20 units > > Today: > > Fasting glucose blood level: > > G 154 > > Took 8 units of Humalog > > Ate no breakfast, no carbs consumed. > > Two hours later: > > G 120 > > Eight units of Humalog lowered my blood glucose level 34 points in two > hours. > > Three hours later: > > Still no carbs consumed > > G 107 > > Eight units of Humalog lowered my blood glucose level 47 points in three > hours. > > Four hours later: > > Still no carbs consumed > > G 106 > > Eight units of Humalog lowered my blood glucose level 48 points in four > hours, and all Humalog should be completely disapated. > > *Took a 4gram quick-acting carb glucose tablet* > > 30 minutes later: > > g 117 > > 60 minutes later: > > g 124 > > After looking at the findings above can you make some remarks regarding > Lantus basil dose and/or Humalog meal dose? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Thanks ! I am going for it! Re: advice for Harry > > > > 10/25/2003 > > > > Last night: > > > > Two hours post supper: > > > > G 128 > > > > Ate nuts to purposefully raise glucose blood level for test in the > morning. > > > > Lantus increased to 20 units > > > > Today: > > > > Fasting glucose blood level: > > > > G 154 > > > > Took 8 units of Humalog > > > > Ate no breakfast, no carbs consumed. > > > > Two hours later: > > > > G 120 > > > > Eight units of Humalog lowered my blood glucose level 34 points in two > > hours. > > > > Three hours later: > > > > Still no carbs consumed > > > > G 107 > > > > Eight units of Humalog lowered my blood glucose level 47 points in three > > hours. > > > > Four hours later: > > > > Still no carbs consumed > > > > G 106 > > > > Eight units of Humalog lowered my blood glucose level 48 points in four > > hours, and all Humalog should be completely disapated. > > > > *Took a 4gram quick-acting carb glucose tablet* > > > > 30 minutes later: > > > > g 117 > > > > 60 minutes later: > > > > g 124 > > > > After looking at the findings above can you make some remarks regarding > > Lantus basil dose and/or Humalog meal dose? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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