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I think there is a lot to be said for eating the way our grandparents ate. Not all the fast food and things that we stick in the microwave for five minutes and call it dinner. Yes, I am guilty of this.. though I don't do fast food much. I have lost 12 lb. in the past two weeks mainly just watching what I am eating and making sure it is healthy.

I did have a Buger after my trip to the hospital but I was dizzy and hadn't eaten anything before I went so I had to have something fast!! Anyway I think that just getting back to the basic foods is a good idea, I like to snack on carrots and they give me energy and I have learned to like salads. My kids and huisband are big veggie eaters but it has taken me sometime to develop my sence of actually liking to eat them!! I have found though that if you will eat a small amount at a time that you will get use to whatever it is and eventually you wont mind the taste and some of the things you will even learn to enjoy!!

Hope everyone has a wonderful day!!

Peace,

SherryDear Debi,There is a book called God's Way To Ultimate Health by Malkmus. Theidea of the diet is to have lots of raw fruit and vegies and some raw nutsand seeds. Some extra virgin olive oil and or flax seed oil. Have about 15%cooked food. Salt is not really healthy. We use a thing called Bragg'sLiquid Aminos. Herbs are great. It's like soy sauce but not as high insodium. Distilled or filtered water is important too. Carrot juice andBarley Green are also used every day. The main thing is no animal products!This means no meat, fish, cheese, yoghurt, milk or eggs. It sounds prettyboring but you do get used to it and the benefits outweigh the hassles. Weget up in the morning and have an 8oz. glass of home made fresh carrotjuice. Then about 1/2 hour later we have a big fresh raw fruit salad. Forlunch we eat lots of salad. Put in as many different raw vegies as possible.Experiment with different home made dressings. The shop stuff is full ofpreservatives. For dinner we eat another large salad with a cooked portionof something. This might be a baked potato, brown rice, wholemeal pasta etc.You can make raw pasta sauce in a blender and just heat it gently. The ideais not to kill the enzymes in the living food. We also home dehydratefruits. These make a wonderful snack.(not too much if you have candida.) Wehave a Champion juicer and make frozen banana ice-cream in summer. Thiscontains no animal products and is beautiful. We also make nut milk. This ismuch higher in calcium than cow'smilk and does not cause the problems thatmany people get from cow's milk.1 cup of raw nuts, (sesame, sunfower, almond or cashew or combination ofall.)3 cups of distilled water.Place in blender and blend for a minute or 2. Pour through cheesecloth.Instead of discarding the left over pulp use it to make fresh tahini tospread on bread and baked potatoes.BANANA MILKSHAKE.2 ripe frozen bananas. Freeze in plastic bags without skin on )6 pitted dates,1/2 cup walnuts,1 teaspoon Vanilla ess,1 " honey,2 cups nutmilk.Blend together and enjoy.For more recipes there is a book called "Recipes For Life From God's Garden"by Rhonda Malkmus. We eat very well, but just eat differently than we usedto. I lost weight on this and eat much more than I used to. I used to starvemyself to stay slim. Not anymore. Living food leaves you feeling moresatisfied. My husband is very thin due to a malabsorbtion problem. He oftenhas some toast at breakfast or lunch. I have found I also need extracarbohydrates sometimes. We found the Barley Green expensive so we grow ourown and juice it with the carrots. We don't always stick to the diet 100%but do the best we can. If you are eating out try to find a salad bar whereyou can have some choices. When friends ask us out for dinner, we ask themif they can bake a potato and make a salad. Stir fried vegies are also agood idea when eating out.I hope this helps,Love,Rosemary.----- Original Message -----

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Has anyone ever tried Rice milk? I have a neice that drinks it she says it takes some getting use to. There is also a cookbook but I don't remember the name that I used when my oldest daughter was younger. She was alergic to milk so I had to make different things for her. I even made her non-dairy ice cream and it was really easy and she liked it, I even ate it because it was so good! I know I made it with non-dairy cream whip but I don't remember the rest of what went into it. I will have to check the library here and see if I can find a book for people who can not have dairy products.

By the way my oldest daughter 20yrs old moved yesterday I wouldn't mind so much but she isdriving 20 hours. She called us twice before she even got out of the state. I already miss her but she has to start her own way in the world and the girl she is moving in with is a very strong christian and we have known her for several years so my husband and I are very comfortable with that. I just wish she was a little closer, I did really good yesterday though, I didn't cry but she got a lot of hugs and I love you's. Please keep her in your thoughts or prayers that she has a good trip and can find a job pretty fast that is one of the reason she moved. We live in a very small town surrounded by other very small towns so not much oppertunities around here.

Thanks and I hope you all have a wonderful day!!

Sherry

Rosemary wrote:>We also make nut milk. This is>much higher in calcium than cow'smilk and does not cause the problems that>many people get from cow's milk.>1 cup of raw nuts, (sesame, sunfower, almond or cashew or combination of>all.)>3 cups of distilled water.>Place in blender and blend for a minute or 2. Pour through cheesecloth.>Instead of discarding the left over pulp use it to make fresh tahini to>spread on bread and baked potatoes.Rosemary -thanks for this info... was just talking with my (vegan) daughter, when she realized that she wasn't getting any calcium. Didn't realize that almonds were high in calcium.I made delicious drink in my VitaMix (oh, I love that machine - this used one I got at eBay was a Christmas present to myself, something I wanted for YEARS).Mixed a handful of almonds with enough water to blend, and a few dates to taste (to make it sweet enough, but not icky sweet). Then I wizzed the heck out of it. Mmmm, delicious.I am trying to make as much of my diet be raw as possible. I can't be too strict, because of everyone else eating regular. But I feel better with good, clean food, and cant' wait til I grow my mesclun lettuce mix again - just got my seeds!Lynne_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.comTo unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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I have used rice milk for 3 years. I am a ovo-vegetarian and dont use dairy products. I dont drink it plain, i use it in my health shake in the morning and those rare times i have some kind of cereal. I dont eat the types of foods that require milk for cooking, thats where rice milk can be a problem.

Has anyone ever tried Rice milk? I have a neice that drinks it she says it takes some getting use to. There is also a cookbook but I don't remember the name that I used when my oldest daughter was younger. She was alergic to milk so I had to make different things for her. I even made her non-dairy ice cream and it was really easy and she liked it, I even ate it because it was so good! I know I made it with non-dairy cream whip but I don't remember the rest of what went into it. I will have to check the library here and see if I can find a book for people who can not have dairy products.

By the way my oldest daughter 20yrs old moved yesterday I wouldn't mind so much but she isdriving 20 hours. She called us twice before she even got out of the state. I already miss her but she has to start her own way in the world and the girl she is moving in with is a very strong christian and we have known her for several years so my husband and I are very comfortable with that. I just wish she was a little closer, I did really good yesterday though, I didn't cry but she got a lot of hugs and I love you's. Please keep her in your thoughts or prayers that she has a good trip and can find a job pretty fast that is one of the reason she moved. We live in a very small town surrounded by other very small towns so not much oppertunities around here.

Thanks and I hope you all have a wonderful day!!

Sherry

Rosemary wrote:>We also make nut milk. This is>much higher in calcium than cow'smilk and does not cause the problems that>many people get from cow's milk.>1 cup of raw nuts, (sesame, sunfower, almond or cashew or combination of>all.)>3 cups of distilled water.>Place in blender and blend for a minute or 2. Pour through cheesecloth.>Instead of discarding the left over pulp use it to make fresh tahini to>spread on bread and baked potatoes.Rosemary -thanks for this info... was just talking with my (vegan) daughter, when she realized that she wasn't getting any calcium. Didn't realize that almonds were high in calcium.I made delicious drink in my VitaMix (oh, I love that machine - this used one I got at eBay was a Christmas present to myself, something I wanted for YEARS).Mixed a handful of almonds with enough water to blend, and a few dates to taste (to make it sweet enough, but not icky sweet). Then I wizzed the heck out of it. Mmmm, delicious.I am trying to make as much of my diet be raw as possible. I can't be too strict, because of everyone else eating regular. But I feel better with good, clean food, and cant' wait til I grow my mesclun lettuce mix again - just got my seeds!Lynne_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.comTo unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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Dear Roni,

I am in Australia and I got the book from an A.I.M. distributor. These are

the people who market Barley Green and you should find them in you telephone

directory. Some libraries have them. If you are in America you should be

able to get them from Hallelujah Acres. Look up www.hacres.com for more

details. does FREE seminars all over the States so it shouldn't be

too hard to get the books.

We get as much organic as possible, but we are on pensions, so we try to

grow our own and buy a lot from the local market. was out here last

year and someone in the audience asked him if they should be having all

organic. He said organic is great if you can get it, but if you can't, don't

let that stop you from going on the diet. He cured himself of bowel cancer

25 years ago on commercial fruit and vegies. Just do what you can. I will

forward you one of 's free health tips which we get each week. It has

a lot of Biblical stuff in it. I don't know what your beliefs are but the

diet works regardless of your beliefs about it's origins.

Hope this helps,

Love,

Rosemary.

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> Hi Rosemary:

>

> I read your note to Debi about the diet and recommended

> recipe book. Where did you get this book from? I have

> lost much weight with the diet from Dr. Mercola and have

> difficulty making " my meals " and my

> husband's " traditional dinners " It is difficult to get

> organic here, do you do all organic? Thanks for your

> help.

> Roni

>

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Dear Debi,

Thanks for your encouragement. A lot of people ask about getting enough

protein. We have been taught by the meat, dairy and egg industies that we

have got to have lots of protein. The truth is that most diseases of western

society are caused by too much protein. A classic example of this is

osteoporosis. It is caused by a thing called protein-induced hypercalciuria.

This literally means calcium is drawn out of the bones by consuming too much

protein. In countries where animal products are consumed the most, the rates

of osteoporosis, diabetes, heart attack, stroke and degenerative diseases

are the highest. There is plenty of good protein in nuts, seeds and many

vegies. An excellent video on this is called " A Diet For All Reasons " by Dr.

Claper. Also Malmus's books and videos explain this very

well.

Crustaceans are great scavengers. They can harbour bacteria, heavy metals

and chemicals. They are also flesh food which is hard to digest. (Sorry!)

As far as carrot juice goes, we have had all sorts of experience with it.

The carrots need to be sweet and fresh. If they are at all bitter, the

juicing process concentrates this and makes them revolting. We have been

buying 20kg bags of horse carrots for $6 Aus. Sometimes they are beautiful

and sometimes we've had to throw them out. Now we go to the market or store

and ask if we can taste one. If there is even a hint of bitterness, we don't

but them as we know they will be even worse in a few days. We do store them

in the fridge. Some people like to add an apple and a small piece of celery

to the juicing. It is an aquired taste. The first time I tried it I did not

like it, but now I find if the carrots are sweet, it is almost like drinking

a milkshake.

Yes, I have tried coconut milk and we use it in home made muffins. I did not

know about it containing caprylic acid and lauric acid. Thanks for this. I

tried taking caprylic acid caps some years ago for suspected candida and got

heartburn from hell! It just proves again that there are healing properties

in so many natural foods and if we process them, we take them out of their

natural context.

Hope this all helps,

Love,

Rosemary.

Diet

> >

> > >

> > > Hi there,

> > >

> > > Am trying to decide upon a " diet " the Hallelujah way of

> > eating sounds interesting...what you eat in the course of

> > > a day??

> > > If you have time , you could give me an example of a days

> > meals??

> > > Are condiments allowed?? Sea salt, herbs, spices???? Oil???

> > > Thank you,

> > > Debi

> > > RA (10yrs) AP 6weeks

> > >

> > >

>

>

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Aja,

Please remind me to pull some articles to email you on this. Too

high a carbohydrate meal can lower your seizure theshold because of

how it alters your blood sugar level. I found the book, The

Carbohydrate Addict's Diet " very helpful in figuring what I could eat

to cut down on my high carb consumption. It made a big difference for

me.

Zoe

Maybe you have reactive hypoglycemia? That is when you have the

suddenly high, the suddenly low blood sugar levels when you consume

too much sugar and carbohydrates. I'll look for more references. BTW,

it was hard for me to change my diet, cause I really did crave the

junk food I was eating--even on my gluten and lactose free diet!

> Hey everyone, I was wondering -- I know I have many more seizures

if I eat

> sugar (fact). It might be that I have seizures when I eat complex

carbs as

> well (possiblity). My neuro is leaving me in the dark about my diet

so I'm

> guessing & disgarding & guessing again, but if my insulin level is

higher

> than necessary, should I bring it down/stabilize it with

supplements like

> chromium picolinate & something to bring down carbs, like " Carb-

Cutter " ?

>

> There's a theory lurking somewhere... Have any suggestions?

>

> ____________________

> *** " Carb Cutter supports stable blood sugar levels, helps reduce

cravings,

> aids in the retention of lean muscle, and provides natural

energizers for

> increased vitality and better workouts. "

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Hi Aja,

You may be talking about Hypoglycemia, a condition whereby excessive sugar

intake leads to a rush of insulin that results in an excess of it in the blood

stream. This is a common occurrence and although nobody has ever linked

hypoglycemia to epilepsy it is believed that glucose deprived neurons are

unstable.

It is easy to maintain your sugar levels. If you are not diabetic, it can

easily corrected with nutrition.

1/ If you have to eat simple sugars, always mix them with complex carbs,

protein or fats.

2/ If you must, eat those sugars and foods with low glycemic indexes (get a

glycemic index table in the net) such as fructose (20) as opposed to glucose

(100).

3/ Try sweeteners such as stevia and sucralose which do not activate release

of insulin

4/ Eat lots of fiber containing products. Raw vegetables, nuts and seeds.

5/ Eat more frequent smaller meals, rather than one-two large meals.

6/ Do not drink with your meals. It slows down digestion and transit.

7/ Supplements containing Gimmena Silvestre, Chromium picolinate, Vanadyl

sulfate, a-lipoic acid, are good to help you control sugar levels but it is

important to help along with the diet.

Keep in mind that low sugar levels can also be attributed to lack of a sugar

splitting enzyme and other many reasons, but hypoglicimia is by far the most

common reason, (is a symptom, though), so make sure your MD carries out a

diagnosis. If he/she cares, will conduct a six hour fasting glucose tolerance

test. That is the best way to determine how your body handles glucose.

Regards

FCR

Aja Beasley wrote:

> Hey everyone, I was wondering -- I know I have many more seizures if I eat

> sugar (fact). It might be that I have seizures when I eat complex carbs as

> well (possiblity). My neuro is leaving me in the dark about my diet so I'm

> guessing & disgarding & guessing again, but if my insulin level is higher

> than necessary, should I bring it down/stabilize it with supplements like

> chromium picolinate & something to bring down carbs, like " Carb-Cutter " ?

>

> There's a theory lurking somewhere... Have any suggestions?

>

> ____________________

> *** " Carb Cutter supports stable blood sugar levels, helps reduce cravings,

> aids in the retention of lean muscle, and provides natural energizers for

> increased vitality and better workouts. "

>

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,

When you refer to blood sugar "spiking," is this related in any way

to theta brainwave spiking? Please advise.

Lamar

Sack wrote:

Hi Aja,

You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood

sugar

from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by

that

explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels

and

blood sugar levels.

You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

Washington, DC 20004

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Hi Aja,

You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood sugar

from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by that

explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels and

blood sugar levels.

You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

Washington, DC 20004

>From: " Aja Beasley " <aja_ab@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Diet

>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:17:43

>

>Hey everyone, I was wondering -- I know I have many more seizures if I eat

>sugar (fact). It might be that I have seizures when I eat complex carbs as

>well (possiblity). My neuro is leaving me in the dark about my diet so I'm

>guessing & disgarding & guessing again, but if my insulin level is higher

>than necessary, should I bring it down/stabilize it with supplements like

>chromium picolinate & something to bring down carbs, like " Carb-Cutter " ?

>

>There's a theory lurking somewhere... Have any suggestions?

>

>____________________

>*** " Carb Cutter supports stable blood sugar levels, helps reduce cravings,

>aids in the retention of lean muscle, and provides natural energizers for

>increased vitality and better workouts. "

>

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Thanks ,

I'll check it out too.

Zoe

> Hi Aja,

>

> You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood

sugar

> from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by

that

> explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels

and

> blood sugar levels.

>

> You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

> 601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

> Washington, DC 20004

>

>

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Aja, Dont know about brainwave spikes during a rise in bloodsugar. I know

for myself I get dizzy if I have alot of sugar and I am not a diabetic. I

have never had a seizure. I am interested in info for epelipsy as my 18 year

old neice has had 2 seizures in the past 3 months. Many of you would love to

only have them that often but hers were her only ones. 2 months apart. After

the first one the Drs just sent her home saying it was related to being in a

computer lab at the University of Iowa. Then 2 months later in her sleep had

a grandmal in the top bunk of her dorm and fell on her roommate below. Now

she is on Depakote. She is a skinny vegetarian. Now taking B complex and

Glyconutrition. Home for the summer. So maybe will try to get off the meds.

Never found a cause for sure. But none the less started her on the meds.

>From: Lamar <lamar@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Diet

>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:34:39 -0400

>

>,

>

>When you refer to blood sugar " spiking, " is this related in any way to

>theta brainwave spiking? Please advise.

>

>Lamar

>

>

> Sack wrote:

>

> > Hi Aja,

> >

> > You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood

> > sugar

> > from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by

> > that

> > explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels

> > and

> > blood sugar levels.

> >

> > You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

> > 601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

> > Washington, DC 20004

> >

> >

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I have noticed the same swings too with my epilepsy, so one thing I have

always found is that if I treat myself as a diabetic and keep to regular

food times and always have something with me to eat in case of feeling dizzy

I usually can avert a seizure! It may be something worth trying for your

niece, just to see if that works for her!

Lynn-Marie

Re: [ ] Diet

> >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:34:39 -0400

> >

> >,

> >

> >When you refer to blood sugar " spiking, " is this related in any way to

> >theta brainwave spiking? Please advise.

> >

> >Lamar

> >

> >

> > Sack wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Aja,

> > >

> > > You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood

> > > sugar

> > > from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by

> > > that

> > > explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels

> > > and

> > > blood sugar levels.

> > >

> > > You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

> > > 601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

> > > Washington, DC 20004

> > >

> > >

>

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Thanks Lynn, Ill tell her.

>From: " Lynn-Marie " <mhnw36299@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Diet

>Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:41:51 +0100

>

>I have noticed the same swings too with my epilepsy, so one thing I have

>always found is that if I treat myself as a diabetic and keep to regular

>food times and always have something with me to eat in case of feeling

>dizzy

>I usually can avert a seizure! It may be something worth trying for your

>niece, just to see if that works for her!

>

> Lynn-Marie

>

> Re: [ ] Diet

> > >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:34:39 -0400

> > >

> > >,

> > >

> > >When you refer to blood sugar " spiking, " is this related in any way to

> > >theta brainwave spiking? Please advise.

> > >

> > >Lamar

> > >

> > >

> > > Sack wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Aja,

> > > >

> > > > You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood

> > > > sugar

> > > > from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by

>

> > > > that

> > > > explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels

> > > > and

> > > > blood sugar levels.

> > > >

> > > > You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

> > > > 601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

> > > > Washington, DC 20004

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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Hi all,

I'm going to treat myself as completely ignorant, & ask everyone what the

difference is between a diabetic diet & a hypoglycemic diet?

~Aja

>From: " Lynn-Marie " <mhnw36299@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Diet

>Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:41:51 +0100

>

>I have noticed the same swings too with my epilepsy, so one thing I have

>always found is that if I treat myself as a diabetic and keep to regular

>food times and always have something with me to eat in case of feeling

>dizzy

>I usually can avert a seizure! It may be something worth trying for your

>niece, just to see if that works for her!

>

> Lynn-Marie

>

> Re: [ ] Diet

> > >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:34:39 -0400

> > >

> > >,

> > >

> > >When you refer to blood sugar " spiking, " is this related in any way to

> > >theta brainwave spiking? Please advise.

> > >

> > >Lamar

> > >

> > >

> > > Sack wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Aja,

> > > >

> > > > You may want to try 5-6 small low glycemic meals to keep your blood

> > > > sugar

> > > > from spiking. There is also a book called Glucose Revolution by

>

> > > > that

> > > > explains this process. High glycemic sugars increase insulin levels

> > > > and

> > > > blood sugar levels.

> > > >

> > > > You can get info from the Glycemic Research Institute

> > > > 601 Pennsylvania Abe. NW Suite 900

> > > > Washington, DC 20004

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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Your niece has the same situation that my daughter had. Seizures far apart

but grand mal. Almost all of her seizures were during the night. We gave her

calcium magnesium in liquid form 6 teaspoons a day, B vits and taurine. Her

seizures were further and further apart with time. Then they stopped

entirely. She has been seizure free for about 8 years now. It's been so long

I've lost track of time. We never gave her meds. There is a book

" Prescription for Nutritional Healing " by Phyllis A. Balch and F.

Balch, in that book you'll find the alternative treatment for many things,

it's a sort of Bible. I have the third addition which came out in 2000.

There was no reason discovered for the seizures. They do try to scare you

into using meds. I would use the cal mag, B vits and taurine for a long

while (months) then taper off the meds. Trouble with meds is when you stop

you could have a seizure right away like your body was saving them up.

If you never start meds well then withdrawal would not be a problem. So now

she has two problems, drugs and seizures. Gail Pike

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Yes, I noticed the same thing. It makes sense because we are different

from one another chemically. We are just so used to modern medicine

treating us all the same that we've forgotten how different we are!

> YOu know...the longer I am on this list....the more I am realizing

that many

> of us can eat certain things that others can't tolerate. I think

from what

> I am seeing is....that the key is to stay strict for a few

> months...reintroduce new things slowly. If you can tolerate it

fine...if

> not...then try something else.

>

> I for one, can tolerate corn without causing any extra problems.

Corn is

> supposed to be an allergenic and the yeast are supposed to love it.

For

> me...so far so good.

>

> I think there are guidelines to follow to kill of the yeast and the

rest is

> trial by error? Just my opinion.

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Hi Karma,

I am so glad you posted this. The word diet can put fear into so many people. I

believe in using your head when you eat, but not putting yourself through the

deprivation of starving your body. I prefer to think of it as sensible eating. I

place a great deal of importance on keeping your body fueled by eating something

every couple of hours. It has worked well for me.

Your idea to post an e-mail to yourself is terrific! Anything that will keep you

on track. I keep my life totally organized for success by simply setting up all

of the things I need in places that I will see when I am going about life. I

have my supplements in an attractive box that I keep within my view so that as

soon as I have eaten breakfast each morning I will see them right away. I have a

separate box for Night time supplements. I have done the same thing with my skin

care products. I have them in attractive containers that make them accesable to

me so there is no real effort beyond the application. I use affirmaition tapes

at bedtime, so I keep a few under my pillow. My husband loves them because he

says they lull him into a deeper sleep.

Your idea to post that email is similar in that it is creating healthy habits.

You are creating your own future with healthy habits by reminding yourself to do

the things you know will help you reach the goals you have set for yourself.

Your goal setting skills are terrific. If you want to reach any goal, first you

have to set it and then take the steps necessary to get there as simply as

possible.

Have a great week and thanks for the great tips.

Rashelle

The thing about our breathing programs is that we don't have to diet to lose

weight, but we do have to have an eating plan. So, I would suggest that you

take some time each night to send yourself a personal e-mail. I do this

every night before going to bed. I know I will check my e-mail each day, it

is already set up as a word processor, so I just type my to-do list each

night. This makes it easy to get to sleep because I don't have remember all

the stuff I need to do.

I write down my meals for the next day including times and snacks.

I write down which workout I am going to do and when.

I make my shopping list if I need to

I put anything else I need to get done the next day done.

This way, I am ready the next day. I don't have to stop and figure it out,

I have planned to succeed, so I do!

Hope this plan helps you too.

~Karma

http://loaves-n-fishes.com

http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I follow the four day rotation diet, but not exclusively. Basically the idea is

not to eat the same food continuously and the more you can space the time

between eating the same thing and limit

the variety of food per meal and spread it out during the day, i.e., soup, later

- salad, later - carbs, later - protein, the less likely you are to develop

sensitivities.

Some examples

Breakfasts: canteloupe; toast and peanut butter; oatmeal; buckwheat pancakes;

egg and toast; potato pancakes

Lunches: ceasar salad with grilled chicken, salmon patties; ham; egg salad;

tomato soup; green salad; chicken salad; bean salad; soy hot dog; baked potato;

tuna salad; grilled cheese

Suppers: chili, roast beef, shrimp, spaghetti and tomato sauce, pork stirfry,

noodle dish

Reducing grains to a bare minimum helps me. I try and eat eggs once or twice a

week max otherwise I get very stiff.

Basically, I try and limit any grain based food to every second day, same with

tomatoes and potatoes which are the same family, so one day will be a potato

day, next day a grain day, a meat day,

then a tomato and grain day, etc.

I eliminated coffee completely, drink herbal and regular tea, glass of wine in

the evening.

Hope that helps

Merle

skyqtee@... wrote:

> I was curious wha everyone's diet is like. Does anyone have a a good

> diet to follow?

> Thank You

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

My diet is based on two main things: eliminating the foods that I know

bother me (give me a headache right after, or feel lightheaded, etc), and

eliminating the foods that I *may* be sensitive to (based on most common

food allergies, and working with a doc who specializes in Environmental

Medicine, including food sensitivities).

So, the foods i know make me feel worse are sugar and anything with a

naturally high sugar content like fruit or sweet potatoes. Also, acidic

foods make my stomach hurt, so i avoid those.

I believe the most common foods PWCs have problems with are eggs, soy, milk

(and dairy products), sugar, and wheat. I don't eat any of those things at

all, and haven't for five years, except that after a year or two I started

eating cheese and yogurt again.

What I do eat is lots of fish and hormone-free chicken breast, organic

vegetables, rice, etc. I do not follow a rotation diet like Merle does,

although that is supposed to be better for you. I just try to concentrate

on the foods that have as few toxins as possible (i.e. organic, no

additives and artificial ingredients, everything fresh) since our bodies

don't seem to be able to clear toxins easily.

I also go by what makes me feel better. I have found that i have much more

energy if I eat fish or chicken twice a day. I was a vegetarian for eight

years and developed CFS about five or six years into the veggie phase.

Maybe my body is storing up on all the things it didn't get when I was a

vegetarian! (For instance NADH is only found in animal flesh, and is

especially abundant in chicken.) I do know some people who became

vegetarian after getting CFS and have felt better eating vegetarian. so it

seems to vary a lot from person to person what works best. Good luck!

Corina

>skyqtee@... wrote:

>

>> I was curious wha everyone's diet is like. Does anyone have a a good

>> diet to follow?

>> Thank You

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I can't eat starchy food at the same time as meat, or I will have

several hours of VERY irritable and painful bowel. It also has

usually taken me a long time to digest meat. I've taken HCL for

this, but I don't seem to need to anymore, as a result of the

changes in our diet, which I'll get to below.

I was also vegetarian for a year or so, and it wasn't good for me,

but that was my personal experience.

On the plus side, I have been interested in a book

called " Nourishing Traditions " , which has information and recipes

on the older ways of preparing foods. This has been agreeing with

me. For example, the book explains that the phytates in whole

grains are, in effect, antinutrients, and souring (sourdough) or

soaking the grains before cooking neutralizes the antinutrients, and

also releases nutrients for assimilation. It also renders the

grains more digestible.

Also, of interest to me is lacto-fermentation. I have been using

recipes from the book to lacto-ferment home made condiments, like

mayonnaise, ketchup, chutney, sauerkraut and others. This

fermentation process does not make alcohol, it's using lactobacilli

to predigest the food. This kind of preservation is said to

help digestion, and the food does taste good. This is done with

whey. I'm using fresh whey, which is left over from making yogurt.

Last night we had beef with chutney, and I didn't have any problems

digesting the meat. Usually it takes me a long time to accomplish

this feat.

I'm on a quest to eat food that is more nutrient dense. Although my

digestion isn't generally delicate, as with many others,

my digestion hasn't been very effective, and I believe I'm on the

right track for kindly and gently improving the situation. And...we

are eating better around here :-)

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Dear skyqtee,

You wrote, " I was curious what everyone's diet is like. Does anyone have a

a good diet to follow? "

I worked with a nutritionist (R.D.) for several months devising a rotation

diet for my daughter. We basically ended up taking all the edible food in

the plant and animal kingdoms and dividing by four--keeping all foods from

the same family on the same day. And of course some foods--sugar, alcohol,

etc.--are not on the list.

The result is that every day I cook about 15 different foods. The

nutritionist thought this was the best way to deal with food allergies in

this case--including small amounts of possible allergens, but only every

four days. Supplemental enzymes seem to help.

We are serious gardeners, and a high percentage of the food is organic. The

rest is well washed. Foods are raw or steamed or baked.

Has our daughter recovered after four years on this diet? No. But we all

think that it helps, and that persistence will eventually pay off.

Sue B.

upstate New York

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

I have been reading some from Nourishing Traditions as well. I have

been " experimenting " with some of the cultured food recipes. Another

good book is The Body Ecology Diet by Donna Gates. I just bought

it. She discusses the importance of not eating meats with starchy

foods (ie potatoes, grains, winter squash, etc) She has a saltless

recipe for saurkraut in there that works well.I don't like the salt

in the recipes from Nourishing Traditions though it is a good book.

I've heard whey from kefir is even more beneficial than that of

yogurt.

I would really be interested in how you are lacto-fermenting other

foods like you listed. Is this in Nourishing Traditons? Are you

adding lactic bacteria to these foods (something again I have been

experimenting with)? I haven't bought the book--just read from when

I'm in the health food store. Thanks

> Hi,

> I can't eat starchy food at the same time as meat, or I will have

> several hours of VERY irritable and painful bowel. It also has

> usually taken me a long time to digest meat. I've taken HCL for

> this, but I don't seem to need to anymore, as a result of the

> changes in our diet, which I'll get to below.

>

> I was also vegetarian for a year or so, and it wasn't good for me,

> but that was my personal experience.

>

> On the plus side, I have been interested in a book

> called " Nourishing Traditions " , which has information and recipes

> on the older ways of preparing foods. This has been agreeing with

> me. For example, the book explains that the phytates in whole

> grains are, in effect, antinutrients, and souring (sourdough) or

> soaking the grains before cooking neutralizes the antinutrients,

and

> also releases nutrients for assimilation. It also renders the

> grains more digestible.

>

> Also, of interest to me is lacto-fermentation. I have been using

> recipes from the book to lacto-ferment home made condiments, like

> mayonnaise, ketchup, chutney, sauerkraut and others. This

> fermentation process does not make alcohol, it's using lactobacilli

> to predigest the food. This kind of preservation is said to

> help digestion, and the food does taste good. This is done with

> whey. I'm using fresh whey, which is left over from making yogurt.

> Last night we had beef with chutney, and I didn't have any problems

> digesting the meat. Usually it takes me a long time to accomplish

> this feat.

>

> I'm on a quest to eat food that is more nutrient dense. Although

my

> digestion isn't generally delicate, as with many others,

> my digestion hasn't been very effective, and I believe I'm on the

> right track for kindly and gently improving the situation.

And...we

> are eating better around here :-)

>

>

> Laurie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Everything I'm doing is from Nourishing Traditions. Thanks for the

tip about kefir whey. I'll see about making some kefir then.

If you are interested, there is a group for Nourishing

Traditions

Nourishing Traditions also mentions that lactofermented food can

help to correct the stomach PH, which is likely problematic for many

of us here. I believe it has helped me.

I'll look into the book by Donna Gates, thank you for that.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Ironically, or maybe not so, when I was in a 5 year remission (not well

but much, much better) I was able to really take the energy to rotate

foods , etc. But now that I'm sicker, much sicker, between the

difficulty re accessing fresh foods and the problem with the energy

involved in preparing them, I simply, though I've tried, cannot do what I

know would help!

I don't eat processed foods or stuff with preservatives. No dairy and

avoid the foods that very obviously give me symptoms (like balsamic

vinegar, bananas, citrus). But having to do my own cooking, not being

able to get to a good market easily, I simply cannot do (as many with

this illness can't) a good rotation diet.

I even have lost patience with testing. A strict elimination diet I

assume is the best. I did eliminate wheat for about 2 months then added

it back and there was no difference, which surprised me.

I would like to do a strict elimination diet and rotate but I simply

don't have the mental or physical energy to do so and deal with the

zillion other things I must do in order to merely function and then have

some leisure and fulfillment, however limited that is.

My big issue is specific treatments. And that's what I'm trying to

evaluate, by trying some that I can barely afford and collecting info on

those I could afford (via Medicaid, like abx) but which I have reason to

believe might be very risky for me.

Judith W

Judith W

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:32:17 -0400 " rhbailey@... "

<rhbailey@...> writes:

Dear skyqtee,

You wrote, " I was curious what everyone's diet is like. Does anyone have

a

a good diet to follow? "

I worked with a nutritionist (R.D.) for several months devising a

rotation

diet for my daughter. We basically ended up taking all the edible food in

the plant and animal kingdoms and dividing by four--keeping all foods

from

the same family on the same day. And of course some foods--sugar,

alcohol,

etc.--are not on the list.

The result is that every day I cook about 15 different foods. The

nutritionist thought this was the best way to deal with food allergies in

this case--including small amounts of possible allergens, but only every

four days. Supplemental enzymes seem to help.

We are serious gardeners, and a high percentage of the food is organic.

The

rest is well washed. Foods are raw or steamed or baked.

Has our daughter recovered after four years on this diet? No. But we all

think that it helps, and that persistence will eventually pay off.

Sue B.

upstate New York

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike, Leonard and Phenols!

Thank you so much for all of this diet information--I had no idea! ;-)

LOL

Yesterday, I went to the Booster Juice and got my drink (carrot,

apple, celery, beet, ginger, garlic). I must confess that I had

problems and only drank half a liter. (I was trying to get all that

water in there the I am supposed to drink, as well.) And I was eating

veggies.

I must confess, that I was very weak all day long. By supper time, my

husband insisted that I have a steak, potato and veggies and I felt

like I was living again. (I am also going off of my one cup of a

coffee. Because I am having so many changes here so quickly, I'm not

sure what is going on. In fact, I am wondering if I might not be best

to tackle one thing at a time, like taking out my coffee for a few

weeks and then concentrating more on the diet.) I'm wondering if it

just isn't too much, too soon!

I know that one ND I saw did include brown rice and some meat (fish

and chicken) in his diet. I am wondering if with my diabetes I might

have to look at more of a moderate diet. Is it normal to get really

weak when one starts the diet changes? If so, how long does it take

for a person to improve?

I'm going out to get my fruit juice this morning, so I can try the

Whole Lemon Drink. Maybe that will help my energy level. This

special diet sure is hard work!

Leonard, I would appreciate any other information that you have on

diet.

Thanks again everyone for your help!

Kind regards,

Trudy