Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Posted May 21, 2005 > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. So this brand guarantees no flame retardants? I know some use some tricky wording that makes it seem like there is nothing, but antimony is a natural substance. > purchasing a wooden bed? If I had to get a new bed frame, I'd get an unfinished one. Then do my own non-toxic finish. I'm guessing practically every finished wood bed would have some finish that would out-gas to some extent. Lynne Quote
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Posted May 21, 2005 Hi, karen, I remember the bed challenge very well. We used the crib for as long as we could. I went to IKEA for {what it's worth} because the beds are close to the ground and less injury from the jumping off distance. They also have beds that are made with wood that is not been finished. They do have a selection of less expensive bunk beds and loft beds as well. Not sure about all the toxicity of IKEA furniture but you can purchased unfinished woods to avoid some. They do have some metal beds there as well. We tried the loft bed with slide for awhile. Now both boys have the twin ones. We cover the matress with a zipped allergy cover as well. Not sure if it reallly helps with toxins but it does help with pee pee accidents and allergies with dust etc.. Well thats it.. :0) hope it gives you some ideas. gail -----csb-autism-rx wrote: ----- To: csb-autism-rx Sent by: csb-autism-rx Date: 05/21/2005 10:42PM Subject: OT: beds/mattresses Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone may have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest to get a safe bed for my little guy. Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib tents due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM and ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their diaper, it is time! I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. Buying it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, please send it my way. Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds (limited space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort mattress). Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and it all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds but most are not very stable that I've found. Thanks for any input. Blessings, Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forumsautism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> Quote
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Posted May 21, 2005 Yes Lynne they do guaratee this. I am on the Antimony-Arsenic list since Slater was SOOOO toxic to antimony. The listowner (and others I think also), got it in writing from the company. After much research and looking at other options, I come back to this every time. I am sure there is something unhealthy about it but at least it hopefully not Antimony! Best, > So this brand guarantees no flame retardants? I know some use some tricky > wording that makes it seem like there is nothing, but antimony is a natural > substance. > > > purchasing a wooden bed? > > If I had to get a new bed frame, I'd get an unfinished one. Then do my own > non-toxic finish. I'm guessing practically every finished wood bed would > have some finish that would out-gas to some extent. > > Lynne Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Hi , Well I am a canary in a coal mine, very sensitive, and I would suggest buying an unfinished solid maple bed. All of those " nontoxic " varnishes give me bad reactions. You could always finish it with a safer option. I know it's a pain in the butt. I would just leave it unfinished. Good luck, Jill > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone may > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest to > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib tents > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM and > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their > diaper, it is time! > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. Buying > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, > please send it my way. > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds (limited > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort mattress). > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and it > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds but > most are not very stable that I've found. > > Thanks for any input. > Blessings, > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Unless you are in the state of california, the only national manufacturer using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as roach killer) is Serta. Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older gold standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro-toxin. While out of all the air mattresses made, Select Comfort is the best, it relies on the theory of displacement rather than resistance. This means it is great for pressure relief but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in the bedding industry for twenty years and except in rare cases always recommend that proper support be of great importance only secondary to comfort. There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend you investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person sleeping and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers you more options. OT: beds/mattresses Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone may have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest to get a safe bed for my little guy. Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib tents due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM and ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their diaper, it is time! I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. Buying it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, please send it my way. Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds (limited space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort mattress). Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and it all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds but most are not very stable that I've found. Thanks for any input. Blessings, Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 I've been looking into this issue for awhile, but you sound like you know mattresses inside and out. I have a pressing question: What do you think about Tempur-pedic? What are the pro's and con's? What would I have to do to make one of these safe, if anything? My ASD son saw the commercials and tried the one his grandma bought and has been begging for one ever since. He needs a bigger bed this summer (he's huge- turning 12!) and I'm really torn about what to buy. He sleeps on a Select Comfort right now, and I have to agree with you about support -- not so much -- although he has slept pretty well on it. One more question: What does the protect-a-bed cover protect against? I thought there was nothing that would help at all against the arsenic/antimony gasses that are supposed to be the big neurotoxic things in most mattresses (short of wrapping them in very thick and uncomfortable polyethylene). Terri At 07:20 AM 5/22/2005, you wrote: >Unless you are in the state of california, the only national manufacturer >using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as roach killer) is Serta. >Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older gold >standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro-toxin. While >out of all the air mattresses made, Select Comfort is the best, it relies >on the theory of displacement rather than resistance. This means it is >great for pressure relief but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in >the bedding industry for twenty years and except in rare cases always >recommend that proper support be of great importance only secondary to >comfort. There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend >you investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% customer >sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend the >Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person sleeping >and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers you more options. > OT: beds/mattresses > > > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone may > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest to > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib tents > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM and > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their > diaper, it is time! > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. Buying > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, > please send it my way. > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds (limited > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort mattress). > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and it > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds but > most are not very stable that I've found. > > Thanks for any input. > Blessings, > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > <<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism-rxguide\ book.com/default.aspx> > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Hello: Thank you for your post. May I share with with other families on another autism list where this has been discussed? Thanks > Unless you are in the state of california, the only national manufacturer using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as roach killer) is Serta. Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older gold standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro-toxin. While out of all the air mattresses made, Select Comfort is the best, it relies on the theory of displacement rather than resistance. This means it is great for pressure relief but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in the bedding industry for twenty years and except in rare cases always recommend that proper support be of great importance only secondary to comfort. There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend you investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person sleeping and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers you more options. > OT: beds/mattresses > > > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone may > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest to > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib tents > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM and > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their > diaper, it is time! > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. Buying > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, > please send it my way. > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds (limited > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort mattress). > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and it > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds but > most are not very stable that I've found. > > Thanks for any input. > Blessings, > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 FYI: What Tempur Pedic said specifically (in writing) was that their mattresses contain no antimony or arsenic. This was to Sampson, on the AntimonyandArsenic list, a couple years ago. Terri At 10:53 PM 5/21/2005, you wrote: > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. > >So this brand guarantees no flame retardants? I know some use some tricky >wording that makes it seem like there is nothing, but antimony is a natural >substance. > > > purchasing a wooden bed? > >If I had to get a new bed frame, I'd get an unfinished one. Then do my own >non-toxic finish. I'm guessing practically every finished wood bed would >have some finish that would out-gas to some extent. > >Lynne > > > >Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at ><<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism-rxguid\ ebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > >---------- > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 ACK, correction -- I meant Select Comfort of course, not Tempur Pedic. At 09:35 AM 5/22/2005, you wrote: >FYI: What Tempur Pedic said specifically (in writing) was that their >mattresses contain no antimony or arsenic. This was to Sampson, on >the AntimonyandArsenic list, a couple years ago. > >Terri > >At 10:53 PM 5/21/2005, you wrote: > > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > > > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. > > > >So this brand guarantees no flame retardants? I know some use some tricky > >wording that makes it seem like there is nothing, but antimony is a natural > >substance. > > > > > purchasing a wooden bed? > > > >If I had to get a new bed frame, I'd get an unfinished one. Then do my own > >non-toxic finish. I'm guessing practically every finished wood bed would > >have some finish that would out-gas to some extent. > > > >Lynne > > > > > > > >Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > ><<<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism > -rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Terri.. have you contacted the manufacturer and asked for safety info in writing? I am still looking for options so I'd love any info you might have on this. You are correct I believe that there is not any cover that will guarantee to block toxins that we are discussing. I am on Antimony- Arsenic too and I know we've beaten this subject to death for 2 years. I wish there was one and it would solve all of this! Thanks for any added info! > >Unless you are in the state of california, the only national manufacturer > >using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as roach killer) is Serta. > >Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older gold > >standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro- toxin. While > >out of all the air mattresses made, Select Comfort is the best, it relies > >on the theory of displacement rather than resistance. This means it is > >great for pressure relief but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in > >the bedding industry for twenty years and except in rare cases always > >recommend that proper support be of great importance only secondary to > >comfort. There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend > >you investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% customer > >sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend the > >Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person sleeping > >and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers you more options. > > OT: beds/mattresses > > > > > > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone may > > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest to > > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib tents > > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM and > > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their > > diaper, it is time! > > > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. Buying > > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, > > please send it my way. > > > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds (limited > > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort mattress). > > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear > > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and it > > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I > > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds but > > most are not very stable that I've found. > > > > Thanks for any input. > > Blessings, > > > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > <<http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older gold standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro-toxin. Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold standard " and what is used in this process?? How is it possible to find out the ingredients along with their possible interactions with the other materials in the mattress? Thanks so much! Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Hi and all, I guess I'm trying to understand why you would not gravitate toward an organic cotton or wool mattress? Additionally, there are organic latex mattresses, if you are not worried about latex sensitivity (I am, but I know of a very sensitive woman who does great with hers) Best, Jill > > Unless you are in the state of california, the only national > manufacturer using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as roach > killer) is Serta. Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort > use the older gold standard for mattresses which do not use this > harmful neuro-toxin. While out of all the air mattresses made, > Select Comfort is the best, it relies on the theory of displacement > rather than resistance. This means it is great for pressure relief > but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in the bedding industry > for twenty years and except in rare cases always recommend that > proper support be of great importance only secondary to comfort. > There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend you > investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% > customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend > the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person > sleeping and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers you > more options. > > OT: beds/mattresses > > > > > > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone > may > > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest > to > > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib > tents > > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM > and > > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their > > diaper, it is time! > > > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. > Buying > > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, > > please send it my way. > > > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds > (limited > > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort > mattress). > > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear > > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and > it > > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I > > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds > but > > most are not very stable that I've found. > > > > Thanks for any input. > > Blessings, > > > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Would you have any idea how much the Stearns & mattresses run? I'm looking to replace our kids' mattresses--two twins and one full. Thanks > I recommend you investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person sleeping and the mattress itself. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 Hi Jill.. I actually did consider these. The cotton ones especially but wanted to look for other options if possible due to cost-that's when I found the Select Comfort. The wool I have been warned about due to the sheep excreting toxins through the hair-that they can be fed food that is contaminated-even organic I read a while back. Sounds crazy but made enough sense after what I've learned that I decided not to that that risk since they too were expensive. For expensive I don't want any risks! I am still considering organic latex but most have a treated cover... I've tried to see if I can buy it without the cover and might do that but for all the trouble etc it will be, I can just call Select Comfort and they can have it here in 4 days and I feel it is as safe as anything else I've looked at. I also have some concerns about the latex and actually four organic manufacturers told me that they cannot guarantee where all componenets come from so he would not even say their organic latex was 100% safe-actually they verbally told me they were initially but then when I wanted it in writing all of them backed down. Just all made me nervous again. For the trouble to get one of these, I wanted it to be a sure thing. Best, > > > Unless you are in the state of california, the only national > > manufacturer using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as roach > > killer) is Serta. Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort > > use the older gold standard for mattresses which do not use this > > harmful neuro-toxin. While out of all the air mattresses made, > > Select Comfort is the best, it relies on the theory of displacement > > rather than resistance. This means it is great for pressure relief > > but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in the bedding industry > > for twenty years and except in rare cases always recommend that > > proper support be of great importance only secondary to comfort. > > There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend you > > investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% > > customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I recommend > > the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the person > > sleeping and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers you > > more options. > > > OT: beds/mattresses > > > > > > > > > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought someone > > may > > > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my quest > > to > > > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > > > > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib > > tents > > > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the AM > > and > > > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in their > > > diaper, it is time! > > > > > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select Comfort > > > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. > > Buying > > > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on this, > > > please send it my way. > > > > > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds > > (limited > > > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort > > mattress). > > > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with clear > > > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days and > > it > > > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or info I > > > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal beds > > but > > > most are not very stable that I've found. > > > > > > Thanks for any input. > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > ----------- > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Posted May 22, 2005 i do not know if this is true-but someone told me that the mattresses at IKEA are free of arsenic/etc. i have not investigated it. but we need a cheap way to get our son a healthy bed. what about an organic cotton futon w/ an utreated platform frame? roz > > > > Unless you are in the state of california, the only national > > > manufacturer using flame retardants (Boric Acid-also used as > roach > > > killer) is Serta. Allo other manufacturers including Select > Comfort > > > use the older gold standard for mattresses which do not use this > > > harmful neuro-toxin. While out of all the air mattresses made, > > > Select Comfort is the best, it relies on the theory of > displacement > > > rather than resistance. This means it is great for pressure > relief > > > but somewhat lacking in support. I have been in the bedding > industry > > > for twenty years and except in rare cases always recommend that > > > proper support be of great importance only secondary to comfort. > > > There are plenty of manufacturers that offer both. I recommend > you > > > investigate Stearns & as the quality is superb (98.7% > > > customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover (I > recommend > > > the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between the > person > > > sleeping and the mattress itself. I hope this helps and offers > you > > > more options. > > > > OT: beds/mattresses > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all: Sorry for somewhat off topic post but I thought > someone > > > may > > > > have advice on some bedding choices I am considering in my > quest > > > to > > > > get a safe bed for my little guy. > > > > > > > > Basically I'm being forced into giving up the cribs and crib > > > tents > > > > due to potty training. I guess when they yell to you in the > AM > > > and > > > > ask if you want to get them out or if they should go in > their > > > > diaper, it is time! > > > > > > > > I've finally accepted that I'll need to buy the Select > Comfort > > > > mattress for my son to prevent exposure to flame retardants. > > > Buying > > > > it this week so if anyone has any negatives or new info on > this, > > > > please send it my way. > > > > > > > > Also trying to find the right bed. I need to do bunk beds > > > (limited > > > > space and to prevent his jumping on the select comfort > > > mattress). > > > > Most of the ones I've considered are a natural wood with > clear > > > > varnish. I know that absolutely nothing is safe these days > and > > > it > > > > all has chemicals and off gases but is there any brand or > info I > > > > need before purchasing a wooden bed? I've looked for metal > beds > > > but > > > > most are not very stable that I've found. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input. > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > > > Who is having a HARD time letting two toddlers grow up! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > ----------- > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 Hi, As a chemically sensitive person, I can tell you that almost every person who is like me, cannot tolerate regular beds! Most of us sleep on organic cotton or wool mattresses. What are the Select Comforts made from? I assume it is something synthetic and would love to know. They must use some kind of flame retardant, as that is the law (as has mentioned, cotton requires a prescription). I have slept on an organic cotton bed for years, and have never noticed any moldy smell from it ( I am very sensitive to mold!) However, years ago before I was aware of my sensitivities, I noticed that my Sealy mattress had a very musty smell. , I don't think it's crazy to avoid wool, if there is some concern you have. Believe me, I don't think anything is crazy anymore:) But, I have slept on wool pillows for years that I buy from H3 Environmental, and I've had no reaction. I would be MUCH more concerned about synthetic pillows. Again, I am very chemically sensitive, I think I would react. I'd advise googling H3 Environmental's contact info and having a conversation with them. They are great people, and not just out for a quick sale, so it might be nice to hear what they have to say. They like to educate. Nonetheless, you might not agree with them. In the end, you must choose what your heart and intuition tells you is best! -Jill > > I recommend you investigate Stearns & as the quality is > superb (98.7% customer sdatisfaction) and utilize a protective cover > (I recommend the Protect-A-Bed) to have a protective barrier between > the person sleeping and the mattress itself. > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 GULP! At these prices, I don't know how we would be able to afford new mattresses for three kids in addition to our DAN doctor, chelation, supplements, therapy, etc. We've just spent a fortune on lab tests and changing our water filter system. I would really appreciate other recommendations. My youngest tested high for antimony so this is a top priority for us. Thanks > They aren't cheap but they are well made. Twin sets will start around $800 and full sets around $900. If you would like I can give you exact prices as they have controlled pricing. If these are too expensive post back and I will try to make a different recommendation. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Thanks so much for the time to send this info. I found some of this yesterday and am about as frustrated as a mom can get! I've about decided that there is something in every single option that is a bit scary and I have no idea now what to do. The organic latex I read last night is NOT always safe. And I ruled out cotton and wool and now have concerns about Select Comfort. Foam is always unsafe according to info on my other list that talks about this all the time so what the heck are we supposed to do. I'm about ready to buy a regular mattress that is not by Serta and buy another babe safe mattress pad, cut it and put it over the top and sides and pray for the best and watch him carefully. I want to buy something safe but the more I look, the more I realize that there is possibly not any 100% guarantee of this. Many manufacturers who do not use the Antimony, now use Boric acid like you mentioned (yep the one used to kill roaches). It seems the more prevalent thing once I started digging. I am not so sure I want Slater to breathe in boric acid either! Thanks and sorry for my frustrated rant! I've about had it with this endeavor to find something safe and affordable. I could even give up " affordable " if I was sure it would be safe but with the info I'm finding on cotton and wool, I'm not convinced that money can buy what we need even if I want to spend it! Thanks again and please pass along anything else! Everyone has been wonderful to chime in on this. Wondering how long a child can now stay in a crib!! LOL > Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older gold > standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro- toxin. > > Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold standard " and > what is used in this process?? How is it possible to find out the > ingredients along with their possible interactions with the other > materials in the mattress? > Thanks so much! > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Hi .. I actually have a crib that converts but my kids are big! They have only a small amt of space left now and just need more space. So.. I am regretfully giving it up. I LOVE the crib.. they can't get out (I use crib tent now) and I know my days of restful sleep late in the AM are about gone! Thanks for the note though... I think that would be an ideal solution for many kids. Best, > > > Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older > >gold > > > standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro- > >toxin. > > > > > > Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold > >standard " and > > > what is used in this process?? How is it possible to find out > >the > > > ingredients along with their possible interactions with the > >other > > > materials in the mattress? > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > ><<http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > >----------- > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Hi .. can you send me the info on that reference. I probably need to read it all! Don't know how I missed that one but thanks for posting this. Yep they told me memory foam was safe too. I am so disgusted with this stupid mattress hunt! Thanks again! > > >ANTIMONY AND BORIC ACID WILL NOT BE WIDESPREAD IN STATES OUTSIDE OF > > >CALIFORNIA UNTIL THE OPEN FLAME LAW PASSES NATIONWIDE. WHAT I MEAN BY > > >WIDESPREAD IS USED TOPICALLY AND IN ABUNDANCE. ANY MATTRESS CURRENTLY > > >BEING SOLD AS COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW GUIDELINES FOR FLAME RETARDATION > > >SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED. TO FURTHER PROTECT YOURSELVES AND YOUR CHILDREN > > >FROM THESE COMPOUNDS AVOID MATTRESSES THAT UTILIZE COTTON (WHICH IS > > >TREATED) AND MATTRESSES THAT UTILIZE HIGH LOFT FIBERS IN THE UPPER > > >SURFACE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE BEST OPTION SEEMS TO BE HIGHER QUALITY > > >MATTRESSES THAT UTILIZE COILS, SYNTHETIC INSULATORS, POLYURETHANE FOAMS OF > > >A VERY HIGH DENSITY (NOTHING LESS THAN 2.0LB AS THE HIGHER THE DENSITY THE > > >LONGER UNTIL THE FOAM STARTS TO DETERIORATE AND TURN TO DUST. GORTEX > > >MATTRESS PADS ALSO SEEM TO BE THE BEST AT INSULATING THE SLEEPER FROM THE > > >MATTRESS. GOOD LUCK TO ALL. > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Terri.. I've been researching foam a log.. can you send me some info privately on this and I'll see if I can match it up with anything I've found so far?? I'll be glad to do that and would be interested to learn more about what you are considering. I won't clog the list with it though... everyone has been very patient with this mattress discussion! I guess it is something we all have to face and I had no idea so many of us were struggling with it right now. > > > > Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older > > >gold > > > > standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro- > > >toxin. > > > > > > > > Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold > > >standard " and > > > > what is used in this process?? How is it possible to find out > > >the > > > > ingredients along with their possible interactions with the > > >other > > > > materials in the mattress? > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > > > ><<<http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > >----------- > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Hi .. sorry I didn't realize you had included the links I requested in your previous email. Has anyone subscribed to this. The part about food/grocery store really interests me but not sure if this would be worth it. Anyone familiar with this?? > > > > > Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older > > > >gold > > > > > standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro- > > > >toxin. > > > > > > > > > > Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold > > > >standard " and > > > > > what is used in this process?? How is it possible to find out > > > >the > > > > > ingredients along with their possible interactions with the > > > >other > > > > > materials in the mattress? > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > > > > > > > ><<<<http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > >----------- > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Hi.. I'm game if that is " legal " for us to do. I'd love to know if anyone has subscribed though and if they feel it is good info. There's so much out there that is hype etc that it's hard to know who to listen to sometimes! But this does sound very interesting. Keep me posted if you do something! > > > > > > > Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use > >the older > > > > > >gold > > > > > > > standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful > >neuro- > > > > > >toxin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold > > > > > >standard " and > > > > > > > what is used in this process?? How is it possible to > >find out > > > > > >the > > > > > > > ingredients along with their possible interactions > >with the > > > > > >other > > > > > > > materials in the mattress? > > > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be > >found at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><<<<<http://forums.autism->http://forums.autism- > >rxguidebook.com/default.aspx><http://forums.autism- >http://forums.autism- > >rxguidebook.com/default.aspx><http://forums.autism- >http://forums.autism- > >rxguidebook.com/default.aspx><http://forums.autism- >http://forums.autism- > >rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- ---- > >---------- > > > > > >----------- > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Consumer Reports just rated mattresses and it backs up the claim below. If I remember correctly they seemed a little perplexed that TempurPedic outgassed so obnoxiously and contacted the company who basically said " yes, they stink for a while " . I would suggest finding a copy of that article before considering. An potentially affordable natural option is a futon mattress. There is a company called Northern Naturals that have some friendly mattresses that are not too expensive. They sell on eBay and have a webstite http://www.northernnaturals.com/ > > > > > Allo other manufacturers including Select Comfort use the older > > > >gold > > > > > standard for mattresses which do not use this harmful neuro- > > > >toxin. > > > > > > > > > > Hi again.. could you let me know more info on the " gold > > > >standard " and > > > > > what is used in this process?? How is it possible to find out > > > >the > > > > > ingredients along with their possible interactions with the > > > >other > > > > > materials in the mattress? > > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > > > > > > > ><<<<http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>http://forums.autism- rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > >----------- > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Why is this so hard? AMEN!!!! It's driving me nuts and I thought it would be easy if I were willing to spend a little more money. Now I am not feeling safe with anything to be honest. Thanks Terri for sharing what you have already done. We can learn a lot from those of you who have " been there, done that " . Did I mention today that I really really really hate autism, mercury poisioning and those who did this to our kids!! OK.. off my soapbox and sorry! > > Terri > > Quote
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