GARLIC

March 11, 1999

My mom just gave me something called a garlic baker. It's an enclosed

pottery sort of thing that you put the garlic in and bake. If I

understand it right, it then comes out mushy to spread on bread or use

in recipes or whatever. Haven't a clue what it does to the active

ingredients, but every time I read one of these posts about crushing and

dicing and whatever, I realize my shoulder and elbow pain along with

loss of strength wouldn't allow me to do it.

Just a thought - Jan K

" Liz G. " wrote:

> I've heard the same thing Mike said about crushing, in regard to

> antibiotic properties, but I heard that as far as using it for

> cholesterol reduction you could boil it mash it roast it whatever it

> didn't affect this property. Don't know if this is true but read it

> from a lot of different sources. Don't worry about the smell.

> Supposedly it goes away after eating large amounts for awhile?--or

> maybe you just get used to it. But why care about smelling good for

> all the ICU nurses--just get that cholesterol down. Wear lots of a

> nice perfume oil and try not to fart in public <BEG> LizG

March 11, 1999

Mike Stahl wrote:

<< I've read that crushing/pressing the garlic reduces the active agents

- the best way to consume it is to cut/grate it fine. >>

I don't know, Mike. The folks in Gilroy, California, the Garlic Capitol

Of The World, would disagree with that saying the best way to ingest

garlic is to bake it and eat it whole or use it as a spread or just

about anyway at all that would make it so you'd buy some. <VBG>

Actually, it is quite delicious roasted and/or baked. I don't know if

it's any good for treating things - an herbalist doubtless would know

about that.

--

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March 11, 1999

Heating the garlic (Bake/Cook) will destroy the active ingredients...

rheumatic Re: garlic

My mom just gave me something called a garlic baker. It's an enclosed pottery

sort of thing that you put the garlic in and bake. If I understand it right, it

then comes out mushy to spread on bread or use in recipes or whatever. Haven't a

clue what it does to the active ingredients, but every time I read one of these

posts about crushing and dicing and whatever, I realize my shoulder and elbow

pain along with loss of strength wouldn't allow me to do it.

Just a thought - Jan K

" Liz G. " wrote:

I've heard the same thing Mike said about crushing, in regard to antibiotic

properties, but I heard that as far as using it for cholesterol reduction you

could boil it mash it roast it whatever it didn't affect this property. Don't

know if this is true but read it from a lot of different sources. Don't worry

about the smell. Supposedly it goes away after eating large amounts for

awhile?--or maybe you just get used to it. But why care about smelling good for

all the ICU nurses--just get that cholesterol down. Wear lots of a nice perfume

oil and try not to fart in public <BEG> LizG

March 11, 1999

Dr. Weil's books talk about herbs & garlic - he says that crushing the

garlic reduces its potency, and heating destroys the beneficial

ingredients..

rheumatic Re: Garlic

>From: Geoff Crenshaw <geoff@...>

>

>Mike Stahl wrote:

>

><< I've read that crushing/pressing the garlic reduces the active agents

>- the best way to consume it is to cut/grate it fine. >>

>

>I don't know, Mike. The folks in Gilroy, California, the Garlic Capitol

>Of The World, would disagree with that saying the best way to ingest

>garlic is to bake it and eat it whole or use it as a spread or just

>about anyway at all that would make it so you'd buy some. <VBG>

>

>Actually, it is quite delicious roasted and/or baked. I don't know if

>it's any good for treating things - an herbalist doubtless would know

>about that.

>--

>Regards,

>

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March 11, 1999

I'm not an herbalist, but I do know that garlic is the one food that has

passed all trials for its antibiotic properties.

Jan K

Geoff Crenshaw wrote:

> From: Geoff Crenshaw <geoff@...>

>

> Mike Stahl wrote:

>

> << I've read that crushing/pressing the garlic reduces the active agents

> - the best way to consume it is to cut/grate it fine. >>

>

> I don't know, Mike. The folks in Gilroy, California, the Garlic Capitol

> Of The World, would disagree with that saying the best way to ingest

> garlic is to bake it and eat it whole or use it as a spread or just

> about anyway at all that would make it so you'd buy some. <VBG>

>

> Actually, it is quite delicious roasted and/or baked. I don't know if

> it's any good for treating things - an herbalist doubtless would know

> about that.

> --

> Regards,

>

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March 11, 1999

Oh Liz, you cracked me up with your " fart " comment; boy can I relate to

that! Just wanted to mention to the group that when you ingest cooked

garlic, you rarely have the problem with " body garlic odor " . When in eat

" raw " garlic, the odor is not only on your breath, but also is secreted

from your pores! And I do LOVE fresh garlic, however, I determined that

if I wanted to have any friends or co-workers left to get near me, I

would have to resort to the " cooked " garlic.

Judy

March 11, 1999

My mate told me that women didnt do that sort of thing ?? Al R.

rheumatic Re: garlic

>From: Judy <judy@...>

>

>Oh Liz, you cracked me up with your " fart " comment; boy can I relate to

>that! Just wanted to mention to the group that when you ingest cooked

>garlic, you rarely have the problem with " body garlic odor " . When in eat

> " raw " garlic, the odor is not only on your breath, but also is secreted

>from your pores! And I do LOVE fresh garlic, however, I determined that

>if I wanted to have any friends or co-workers left to get near me, I

>would have to resort to the " cooked " garlic.

>

>Judy

>

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March 11, 1999

I hate to be argumentative Al, but believe me....your mate is

wrong!...LOL, LOL (I wish he was right!)

Judy

March 12, 1999

You must live down under! My mate is my life partner ( Female )

Al R.

Re: rheumatic Re: garlic

>I hate to be argumentative Al, but believe me....your mate is

>wrong!...LOL, LOL (I wish he was right!)

>

>Judy

>

March 12, 1999

Never!! It's always the dog. LOL

Bev

rheumatic Re: garlic

>From: " Al Rousseau " <DogDocAl@...>

>

> My mate told me that women didnt do that sort of thing ?? Al R.

>

> rheumatic Re: garlic

>

>>From: Judy <judy@...>

>>

>>Oh Liz, you cracked me up with your " fart " comment; boy can I relate to

>>that! Just wanted to mention to the group that when you ingest cooked

>>garlic, you rarely have the problem with " body garlic odor " . When in eat

>> " raw " garlic, the odor is not only on your breath, but also is secreted

>>from your pores! And I do LOVE fresh garlic, however, I determined that

>>if I wanted to have any friends or co-workers left to get near me, I

>>would have to resort to the " cooked " garlic.

>>

>>Judy

>>

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March 12, 1999

And while we're on the subject of garlic, you might like this recipe:

Sopa De Ajo (Garlic Soup) spain

source:The wonderful world of cooking

6 garlic cloves, minced

4 garlic cloves, crushed

4 tablespoons oil

3 pints boiling water

1/2 teaspoon salt

1/4 teaspoon black pepper

3 slices bread, sauteed

3 hard cooked eggs, sliced

Brown both minced and crushed garlic in 2 tablespoons oil in large

skillet. add a little water. Simmer until tender. Add remaining water,

stirring well. Season with salt

and pepper. Simmer for 10 minutes, strain, keep hot. Saute bread in

remaining oil, Place in bottom of soup tureen. Pour soup over sauteed

bread. Garnish each serving with egg slices

serves 8-10

At 10:29 AM 11/3/1999 -0800, you wrote:

>From: Geoff Crenshaw <geoff@...>

>

>Mike Stahl wrote:

>

><< I've read that crushing/pressing the garlic reduces the active agents

>- the best way to consume it is to cut/grate it fine. >>

>

>I don't know, Mike. The folks in Gilroy, California, the Garlic Capitol

>Of The World, would disagree with that saying the best way to ingest

>garlic is to bake it and eat it whole or use it as a spread or just

>about anyway at all that would make it so you'd buy some. <VBG>

>

>Actually, it is quite delicious roasted and/or baked. I don't know if

>it's any good for treating things - an herbalist doubtless would know

>about that.

>--

>Regards,

>

>Geoff Crenshaw, ACC ----------------------

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March 12, 1999

Eating parsley after garlic and onions is supposed to help with the garlic/onion

smell on your breath.

rheumatic garlic

I've heard the same thing Mike said about crushing, in regard to antibiotic

properties, but I heard that as far as using it for cholesterol reduction you

could boil it mash it roast it whatever it didn't affect this property. Don't

know if this is true but read it from a lot of different sources. Don't worry

about the smell. Supposedly it goes away after eating large amounts for

awhile?--or maybe you just get used to it. But why care about smelling good for

all the ICU nurses--just get that cholesterol down. Wear lots of a nice perfume

oil and try not to fart in public <BEG> LizG

March 12, 1999

Mike Stahl wrote:

> Dr. Weil's books talk about herbs & garlic - he says that crushing the

> garlic reduces its potency, and heating destroys the beneficial

> ingredients..

Figures. Bummer

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it is obeying in spite of the consequence. "

March 12, 1999

Hi Al,

My mom just sent me this ... thought your mate might like it.

<< ---------------------------------------------------------------

Women do not snore, burp, sweat or pass gas. Therefore,

they must bitch or they will blow up.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>> >>

God Bless, Debra

Al Rousseau wrote:

>

> From: " Al Rousseau " <DogDocAl@...>

>

> My mate told me that women didnt do that sort of thing ?? Al R.

>

> rheumatic Re: garlic

>

> >From: Judy <judy@...>

> >

> >Oh Liz, you cracked me up with your " fart " comment; boy can I relate to

> >that! Just wanted to mention to the group that when you ingest cooked

> >garlic, you rarely have the problem with " body garlic odor " . When in eat

> > " raw " garlic, the odor is not only on your breath, but also is secreted

> >from your pores! And I do LOVE fresh garlic, however, I determined that

> >if I wanted to have any friends or co-workers left to get near me, I

> >would have to resort to the " cooked " garlic.

> >

> >Judy

> >

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March 12, 1999

sounds true to me

D. King wrote:

>

> From: " D. King " <dking@...>

>

> Hi Al,

>

> My mom just sent me this ... thought your mate might like it.

>

> << ---------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Women do not snore, burp, sweat or pass gas. Therefore,

> they must bitch or they will blow up.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> >>>> >>

>

> God Bless, Debra

>

> Al Rousseau wrote:

> >

> > From: " Al Rousseau " <DogDocAl@...>

> >

> > My mate told me that women didnt do that sort of thing ?? Al R.

> >

> > rheumatic Re: garlic

> >

> > >From: Judy <judy@...>

> > >

> > >Oh Liz, you cracked me up with your " fart " comment; boy can I relate to

> > >that! Just wanted to mention to the group that when you ingest cooked

> > >garlic, you rarely have the problem with " body garlic odor " . When in eat

> > > " raw " garlic, the odor is not only on your breath, but also is secreted

> > >from your pores! And I do LOVE fresh garlic, however, I determined that

> > >if I wanted to have any friends or co-workers left to get near me, I

> > >would have to resort to the " cooked " garlic.

> > >

> > >Judy

> > >

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March 19, 2001

To those of you who have taken garlic for an extended time now:

Do you know if capsule/pill form is as good as fresh? Like Kyolic?

Thanks,

rheumatic Garlic

GARLIC

Garlic is one of the most valuable foods on this planet. It has been used since Biblical times, and is mentioned in the literature of the ancient Hebrews, Greeks, Babylonians, Romans and Egyptians. The builders of the pyramids supposedly ate garlic daily for endurance & strength.

Garlic lowers blood pressure through the actions of one of its components, methyl alyl trisulfide, which dilates the blood vessel walls. It thins the blood by inhibiting platelet aggregation, which reduces the risk of blood clots and aids in preventing heart attacks. It also lowers serum cholesterol levels and aids in digestion. Garlic is useful for many diseases and illnesses, including cancer. It is a potent immune system stimulant and a natural antibiotic. It should be consumed daily. It can be eaten fresh, taken in supplement form, or used to prepare garlic oil.

Garlic contains an amino acid derivative, alliin. When garlic is consumed, the enzyme alliinase, which converts alliin to allicin, is released. Allicin has an antibiotic effect; it exerts an antibacterial effect estimated to be equivalent to 1% of that of penicillin. Because of its antibiotic properties, garlic was used to treat wounds and infections and to prevent gangrene during World War I.

Garlic is also effective against fungal infections, including athlete's foot, systemic candidiasis, and yeast vaginitis, and there is some evidence that it may also destroy certain viruses, such as those associated with fever blisters, genital herpes, a form of the common cold. smallpox, and a type of influenza.

If you find the odor to strong after you eat garlic, chew some prigs of parsley or mint, caraway or fennel seeds.

An alternative to fresh garlic is Kyaloc from Wakunaga of America. Kyolic is an odorless "sociable" garlic product, and is available in tablet, capsule, and oil extract forms. To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

March 19, 2001

, I don't know but my guess it, like all other foods, would not be as

potent as FRESH. Maybe someone enlightened can enlighten us as I would

like to know, too. Are you just afraid of smelling? Trust me, I have not

lost friends yet! Love,

> [Original Message]

> From: <asolomon@...>

> Rheumatic <rheumatic >; Jim & Delaine Lowry

<keywest@...>

> Date: 3/19/2001 5:56:35 AM

> Subject: Re: rheumatic Garlic

>

> To those of you who have taken garlic for an extended time now:

>

> Do you know if capsule/pill form is as good as fresh? Like Kyolic?

>

> Thanks,

>

> rheumatic Garlic

>

> GARLIC

>

> Garlic is one of the most valuable foods on this planet. It has been

used since Biblical times, and is mentioned in the literature of the

ancient Hebrews, Greeks, Babylonians, Romans and Egyptians. The builders

of the pyramids supposedly ate garlic daily for endurance & strength.

>

> Garlic lowers blood pressure through the actions of one of its

components, methyl alyl trisulfide, which dilates the blood vessel walls.

It thins the blood by inhibiting platelet aggregation, which reduces the

risk of blood clots and aids in preventing heart attacks. It also lowers

serum cholesterol levels and aids in digestion. Garlic is useful for many

diseases and illnesses, including cancer. It is a potent immune system

stimulant and a natural antibiotic. It should be consumed daily. It can

be eaten fresh, taken in supplement form, or used to prepare garlic oil.

>

> Garlic contains an amino acid derivative, alliin. When garlic is

consumed, the enzyme alliinase, which converts alliin to allicin, is

released. Allicin has an antibiotic effect; it exerts an antibacterial

effect estimated to be equivalent to 1% of that of penicillin. Because of

its antibiotic properties, garlic was used to treat wounds and infections

and to prevent gangrene during World War I.

>

> Garlic is also effective against fungal infections, including athlete's

foot, systemic candidiasis, and yeast vaginitis, and there is some evidence

that it may also destroy certain viruses, such as those associated with

fever blisters, genital herpes, a form of the common cold. smallpox, and a

type of influenza.

>

> If you find the odor to strong after you eat garlic, chew some prigs of

parsley or mint, caraway or fennel seeds.

>

> An alternative to fresh garlic is Kyaloc from Wakunaga of America.

Kyolic is an odorless " sociable " garlic product, and is available in

tablet, capsule, and oil extract forms.

>

March 19, 2001

I'm not that afraid of smelling after all the posts indicating I probably

won't. It just seems easier. But I assume, like you, that fresh is best.

rheumatic Garlic

> >

> > GARLIC

> >

> > Garlic is one of the most valuable foods on this planet. It has been

> used since Biblical times, and is mentioned in the literature of the

> ancient Hebrews, Greeks, Babylonians, Romans and Egyptians. The builders

> of the pyramids supposedly ate garlic daily for endurance & strength.

> >

> > Garlic lowers blood pressure through the actions of one of its

> components, methyl alyl trisulfide, which dilates the blood vessel walls.

> It thins the blood by inhibiting platelet aggregation, which reduces the

> risk of blood clots and aids in preventing heart attacks. It also lowers

> serum cholesterol levels and aids in digestion. Garlic is useful for many

> diseases and illnesses, including cancer. It is a potent immune system

> stimulant and a natural antibiotic. It should be consumed daily. It can

> be eaten fresh, taken in supplement form, or used to prepare garlic oil.

> >

> > Garlic contains an amino acid derivative, alliin. When garlic is

> consumed, the enzyme alliinase, which converts alliin to allicin, is

> released. Allicin has an antibiotic effect; it exerts an antibacterial

> effect estimated to be equivalent to 1% of that of penicillin. Because of

> its antibiotic properties, garlic was used to treat wounds and infections

> and to prevent gangrene during World War I.

> >

> > Garlic is also effective against fungal infections, including

athlete's

> foot, systemic candidiasis, and yeast vaginitis, and there is some

evidence

> that it may also destroy certain viruses, such as those associated with

> fever blisters, genital herpes, a form of the common cold. smallpox, and a

> type of influenza.

> >

> > If you find the odor to strong after you eat garlic, chew some prigs

of

> parsley or mint, caraway or fennel seeds.

> >

> > An alternative to fresh garlic is Kyaloc from Wakunaga of America.

> Kyolic is an odorless " sociable " garlic product, and is available in

> tablet, capsule, and oil extract forms.

> >

April 10, 2003

I thought about that, too, dana.

Other high sulfur foods are eggs, milk, broccoli, onions, cabbage,

sometimes people list chicken.

I'm experimenting with this, too, and I make a veggie soup for Nick which has

garlic in it. I don't THINK he reacts badly.

Just been wondering about the whole gsh precursor thing, how to address it,

whether to address it....

marti

April 10, 2003

> This morning when he woke up he was a monster........strange

> because lately he has been calmer than he has been in years.

> He did not want to be spoken to..........was so agitated........

> was a mess.........started to cry ........just odd behaviors.

> I am wondering if it was the garlic last night that set him off.

Might have been. I am just now learning about sulfur foods [my

current experiment/challenge]. Garlic is high sulfur, so it might be

that your child does not tolerate high sulfur foods. Or maybe just

the garlic itself.

Dana

April 10, 2003

I thought garlic also kills yeast--

maybe a die-off reaction?

Re: Garlic