Re: Sleepiness

December 13, 1999

Why not take the Paxil at bedtime? That's what Vinny does.

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From: Merril [sMTP:allennco@...]

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 8:48 AM

Hepatitis Conelist

Subject: Sleepiness

From: Merril <allennco@...>

Hmmmm.....yup!

I probably confused everyone....

I have hepC and a mitochondrial disorder...

My husband has Alzheimer's... he is the one taking the Paxil...

That better??? *S*

Merril

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January 19, 2000

,

Fatigue is like the NUMBER 1 or at least number 2 symptom of HYPOthyroid --

that and rapid weight gain, despite very little appetite. Also, check your

blood sugar levels. Everyone gets that afternoon slump but HYPOs get it very

strongly and if our blood sugar level drops -- whoo boy!

Watch what you have for lunch. Try to eat more of a hamburger or sandwich

meal and avoid pasta, rice, potatoes in large numbers -- also candy or cookie

products. When you feel that way have cheese or meat or eggs as a snack. It

should help. When I eat a big carbo (pasta for ex..) meal I try to leave it

for night because within the hour I will be on the couch " passed out " for 20

minutes or so. It is a guarantee that I will be lethargic and slow while

that meal is digesting.

Have you noticed any other symptoms besides sleepiness?

--kathleen (hypo)

In a message dated 1/18/00 11:26:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

klh225@... writes:

<< Subj: Sleepiness

Date: 1/18/00 11:26:25 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: klh225@... (Katharine)

Reply-to: hyperthyroidismegroups

hyperthyroidismeGroups

Does anyone else get sleepiness? The fatigue I had only seems to come

on if I push myself too hard, however I do find myself fighting off

bouts of sleepiness. Sometimes it's quite strong. I don't have trouble

sleeping at night and I would think that would make a difference.

Usually it happens late afternoons while I'm still at work. I'm not

doing anything differently there. Any suggestions? I've started the

supplements advised and I do feel much better. I also suffer from

TED but I couldn't find any reference to the beepollen. What is that

about?

Katharine

>>

January 19, 2000

You have left me laughing for the first time today. Sleepiness...I found it

quite

nice since the hyperT left me not being able to breath...and then...deep, slow,

breathing at hypo. I liked it since I was alone in a room, typing with my eyes

closed (transcription tapes) and then woozied off to home after work to lay

down.

I still get that way in the afternoon. Do you think it is boredom? I do. That

is

one reason I am looking for a job where I feel productive...interactive with the

environment and people. Laughing is great. I feel so loved that way. Thanks.

January 20, 2000

Dear Kathleen,

Re pasta meals in the evening: I recently consulted a nutritionist in my

gym, because, although I think I eat pretty well, I am not building as much

muscle as I'd like considering all the exercise I do. She advocates eating a

balance of lean proteins, carbs, fruits and vegetables for breakfast, lunch,

and a.m. and p.m. snacks, but said not to have carbs after the afternoon

snack--e.g., eat lean protein and veggies for dinner, and don't snack on

carbs at night. I have tried this, and it helped me to lose a few pounds (I

am pretty much at my ideal weight, although I'd love to gain more muscle and

tighten up my thighs and upper arms). I used to have cookies or graham

crackers from the health food store for dessert. Now, if I need something

sweet, especially at night, I eat a protein bar (there are three good brands

I know of that are low in carbs and sugar and high in protein--lots of them

have too much fat, sugar and carbs)--they taste almost like candy, and

satisfy a sweet tooth.

I used to eat tons of pasta and other starches--now I really think they add

extra weight, and try to eat more lean protein.

AntJoan

January 20, 2000

Ant Joan,

Thanks for the info. I am glad you know a lot of this health food

information. They say that HYPO people are allergic to wheat... wish it was

much easier to give up.

--kathleen

January 20, 2000

Thank you Siuan,

I will give it a try. I hope I am not allergic to corn because sometimes

I feel it bloats me. I try not to eat corn the vegetable but still eat it as

pop corn or cooked as a bread or chips --- am I crazy to do that? How would

I know if I am allergic to it, for sure? I have never had an allergy test.

Also, I switched to diet bread (lite) last week and it seems to not bother

me as much as the regular bread. And how does one find a bread that doesnt

have enriched wheat flour in it -- even my loaf of rye bread has that. I

guess I better head to the health food store -- right?

--kathleen

In a message dated 1/20/00 5:52:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

siuan.mcgahan@... writes:

<< Subj: Re: Sleepiness

Date: 1/20/00 5:52:37 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: siuan.mcgahan@... (Siuan McGahan)

Reply-to: hyperthyroidismegroups

hyperthyroidismeGroups

They say that HYPO people are allergic to wheat... wish it was

> much easier to give up.

>

> --kathleen

It is hard to give up and hard to avoid in our society, but it gets

easier with time. It is hard to say no to bread, but rice, potatoes and

corn (and corn tortillas) make it a lot easier. None of those things

have gluten. I have noticed huge differences to so many aspects of my

health by cutting out gluten, dairy and sugar. (I break down every once

in a while, but immediately feel so icky that I stay away longer the

next time)

Siuan

>>

January 20, 2000

I used to experience what you describe, but I then got diagnosed with

fibromyalgia. I don't want to imply that you might have that,

Fibromyalgia and thyroid disease have a lot of commonalities. My point

is just that I THOUGHT I had no trouble sleeping at night, because

that's all I wanted to do. Then when they gave me medication to assist

me in getting into the proper stages of sleep, I realized what sleeping

well meant. If you are not getting into the deeper stages of sleep,

your body may not get a chance to recover when you push yourself too

hard. Maybe thyroid problems can cause sleep disorders, like

fibromyalgia does too.

Siuan

" katharine " <klh22-@...> wrote:

original article:hyperthyroidism/?start=34

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> Does anyone else get sleepiness? The fatigue I had only seems to come

> on if I push myself too hard, however I do find myself fighting off

> bouts of sleepiness. Sometimes it's quite strong. I don't have trouble

> sleeping at night and I would think that would make a difference.

> Usually it happens late afternoons while I'm still at work. I'm not

> doing anything differently there. Any suggestions? I've started the

> supplements advised and I do feel much better. I also suffer from

> TED but I couldn't find any reference to the beepollen. What is that

> about?

>

> Katharine

>

January 20, 2000

Dear Kathleen,

Re avoiding wheat: You are right--there are breads in the health food store

that do not contain wheat. And some of them taste really good. You just

have to read the labels carefully. Also at the health food store you can

find cereals and pastas made from amarinth, spelt, and other alternative

grains that rarely cause allergies, which contain protein, minerals, fiber,

etc. You even can find cookies and cakes that are wheat-free.

I once took an allergy test where I was told that I was allergic to corn, so

it is possible. An allergist can test your blood by computer, rather than

doing the more drawn-out scratch tests. If you are allergic to something,

sometimes if you stay away from it for a while you can go back to it

eventually.

AntJoan

January 20, 2000

I also was experiencing fatigue, when I was working(I'm on

long holiday with the children at the moment ). I was totally stressed out

from having two children at different schools and all the extra running

around, work and not being able to do all the house work and washing and

ironing. Then when I was diagnosed I stopped trying to do all the house work

and allowed myself to be(as well as having an incredibly helpful,supportive

husband.

I have had a turn around in the last few months with the

homeopath and a friend doing energy work on me I have improved out of sight.

I can do the housework hang the washing and go out for the rest of the day.

I suppose when the children go back to school (this year the same school)

and I go back to work , I will see if I still feel as good. I bet I do.

May I suggest you let go of pushing yourself, until you have

found the right thing to boost your energy . I wish you luck

Ali

Sleepiness

>Does anyone else get sleepiness? The fatigue I had only seems to come

>on if I push myself too hard, however I do find myself fighting off

>bouts of sleepiness. Sometimes it's quite strong. I don't have trouble

>sleeping at night and I would think that would make a difference.

>Usually it happens late afternoons while I'm still at work. I'm not

>doing anything differently there. Any suggestions? I've started the

>supplements advised and I do feel much better. I also suffer from

>TED but I couldn't find any reference to the beepollen. What is that

>about?

>

>Katharine

>

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January 20, 2000

They say that HYPO people are allergic to wheat... wish it was

> much easier to give up.

>

> --kathleen

It is hard to give up and hard to avoid in our society, but it gets

easier with time. It is hard to say no to bread, but rice, potatoes and

corn (and corn tortillas) make it a lot easier. None of those things

have gluten. I have noticed huge differences to so many aspects of my

health by cutting out gluten, dairy and sugar. (I break down every once

in a while, but immediately feel so icky that I stay away longer the

next time)

Siuan

January 20, 2000

Kathleen,

For me the answer was to just give up bread (not look for an

alternative, most breads of any kind will have wheat flour, or some

glutenous grain in them.) If you find something that is just made of

rice or corn (amaranth and quinoa are supposed to be good too, but

health food stores are so expensive) let me know, please. So, I just

stick with eating rice, corn or potatoes with my meals. It does suck,

when everyone else is eating bread, but I think it helps.

About allergy tests, I think most people will test positive to a lot of

things on allergy tests. When I was allergy tested it came back that I

was allergic to EVERYTHING EXCEPT corn, rice, turkey and yams. Well,

that's not all I eat (though I tried that for a while, hard when you

are 13 y.o. and your friends live on pizza and ding dongs) I think if

something doesn't make you feel good, then you are probably sensitive

to it. I always go totally paleolithic when I need to clean my diet up,

because I am not sure what is bugging me and then I re-introduce things

slowly.

I know this all sounds so extreme and tedious, but so are the health

problems! Hope you find something that works for you!

Siuan

> I will give it a try. I hope I am not allergic to corn because

sometimes

> I feel it bloats me. I try not to eat corn the vegetable but still

eat it as

> pop corn or cooked as a bread or chips --- am I crazy to do that?

How would

> I know if I am allergic to it, for sure? I have never had an allergy

test.

>

> Also, I switched to diet bread (lite) last week and it seems to not

bother

> me as much as the regular bread. And how does one find a bread that

doesnt

> have enriched wheat flour in it -- even my loaf of rye bread has

that. I

> guess I better head to the health food store -- right?

>

> In a message dated 1/20/00 5:52:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> siuan.mcgahan@... writes:

>

> << Subj: Re: Sleepiness

> Date: 1/20/00 5:52:37 PM Eastern Standard Time

> From: siuan.mcgahan@... (Siuan McGahan)

> Reply-to: hyperthyroidismegroups

> hyperthyroidismeGroups

>

> They say that HYPO people are allergic to wheat... wish it was

> > much easier to give up.

> >

> > --kathleen

>

> It is hard to give up and hard to avoid in our society, but it gets

> easier with time. It is hard to say no to bread, but rice, potatoes

and

> corn (and corn tortillas) make it a lot easier. None of those things

> have gluten. I have noticed huge differences to so many aspects of my

> health by cutting out gluten, dairy and sugar. (I break down every

once

> in a while, but immediately feel so icky that I stay away longer the

> next time)

>

> Siuan

>

> >>

January 21, 2000

Siuan,

Thanks for the information. I will try to give this up. But, I guess will

power is hard to come by. I know it supposedly helps with the muscle aches

and pains of thyroid disease.

Does anyone know if Gluten is listed under any other name? You know, how

sugar has so many different names ...

--kathleen

In a message dated 1/20/00 6:30:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

siuan.mcgahan@... writes:

<< Subj: Re: Sleepiness

Date: 1/20/00 6:30:57 PM Eastern Standard Time