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Sandy you take care ...get the surgery and you will be feeling a lot better....panic attacks are awful, I had them for 3 years now they are gone...I was at the Redskin game last time you called me.

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Panic attacks and anxiety attacks are tough to deal with. I've had them since I was 12 -I'm 31 now. (I've sat in the ER many a time wondering if I was having a heart attack.) What helped me most in life was to literally remove (or ignore) as many stressors as possible. Whether it means people, places, situations -what ever, I cut it all out where possible. Even close family. It's worked wonders for the frequency of my attacks.

I've never believed in taking drugs like Klonopin, Ativan, or Xanax EVERY DAY for the 'chance' that I'd have a panic or anxiety attack this very day out of the 30 days of the month. (Say you have 10 per month, that's 20 days you're medicating yourself when you didn't really need it.) All of these have been prescribed and thrown at me since I was a kid. I prefer keeping something on hand to take 'for the chance' it happens to treat it then, instead of the opposite. Even then I start out at the lowest possible dose, and only step it up if need be.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

These are VITAL words to live by when dealing with anxiety and panic disorders!!! This type of stress will only halt healing.

So anyway, hang in there... and cut stress where you can so that you'll have the energy to deal with the things you cannot change instead of fretting over the things you can. For the things you cannot change -lean on your friends and support systems and do the best you can with what you have!

Brigite :)

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In a message dated 9/2/2006 4:45:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, dusty.com@... writes:

Panic attacks and anxiety attacks

What is the difference ?

The clinical definitions may vary from what I'm about to say, but in simplest explanation, I think the difference is what actually brings them on, and also the symptoms:

ANXIETY attacks usually happen when you're worrying about something that causes you distress. (ie: worrying about an upcoming event, worrying about having to go to a crowded public place)

PANIC attacks usually happen when you are actually doing something that causes you distress. (ie: attending an event, being in a public place)

Also, the symptoms may differ physically and/or mentally.

Here's other info:

Panic attacks are usually characterised by sudden bursts of (usually) unexpected fear. The symptoms can include palpitations (racing heart), light-headedness, dizziness, vertigo or lack of balance, and an overwhelming need to escape. Commonly hyperventilation is present during a panic attack.

Anxiety attacks are usually characterized by both mental and physical symptoms. The symptoms can include dizziness, sweating, labored breathing, difficult swallowing, tingling arms and legs, vertigo, nausea, visual disturbances, a depressed feeling, feeling detached.

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Great advice Brigite . . . I have no doubt that's what's kept you going where other would have given up, given in, and slid down the slippery slope of self destruction. Thanks! Rogene

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Panic attacks and anxiety attacks

What is the difference ?

When I was having an attack at the emergency room

I really got the strangest looks as if I was not normal

I feel this is implant relatedas I was very healthy before implants

I became like a zomby and than my body went into whacky mode

I understand some woman have had hair loss

I had to cut off my long beautiful hair beacuse

I could barely function after implants

after removal of implants my hair is growing in leaps and bounds

and it's passed the middle of my back now

Sandy

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In a message dated 9/2/2006 6:02:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, GMCLADY98@... writes:

Brig...did you sell your truck ?

Not yet -still workin' on a plan. Thanks for asking!

Brig :)

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Panic attacks can also occur with Post Traumatic

Stress Disorder, or with events that are not

quite in consciousness but were traumatic in the past.

Lynda

At 02:58 PM 9/2/2006, you wrote:

>In a message dated 9/2/2006 4:45:03 PM Eastern

>Standard Time, dusty.com@... writes:

>Panic attacks and anxiety attacks

>What is the difference ?

>

>The clinical definitions may vary from what I'm

>about to say, but in simplest explanation, I

>think the difference is what actually brings them on, and also the symptoms:

>

>ANXIETY attacks usually happen when you're

>worrying about something that causes you

>distress. (ie: worrying about an upcoming event,

>worrying about having to go to a crowded public place)

>

>PANIC attacks usually happen when you are

>actually doing something that causes you

>distress. (ie: attending an event, being in a public place)

>

>Also, the symptoms may differ physically and/or mentally.

>

>Here's other info:

>Panic attacks are usually characterised by

>sudden bursts of (usually) unexpected fear. The

>symptoms can include palpitations (racing

>heart), light-headedness, dizziness, vertigo or

>lack of balance, and an overwhelming need to

>escape. Commonly hyperventilation is present during a panic attack.

>

>Anxiety attacks are usually characterized by

>both mental and physical symptoms. The symptoms

>can include dizziness, sweating, labored

>breathing, difficult swallowing, tingling arms

>and legs, vertigo, nausea, visual disturbances,

>a depressed feeling, feeling detached.

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 9/3/2006 1:24:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964@... writes:

Brig-have you tried a loan yet? I had thought about applying for a loan, and then immediately doing a debt consolidation program to cut it in half....wonder if that would work? lol

We have bad credit, no collateral, and don't have hundreds per month to pay on a loan. Hubby was trying to get a loan (advance) from his boss, but he can't get that much doing that.

The decline of my health was the decline of our C-R-E-D-I-T!

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In a message dated 9/3/2006 1:41:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964@... writes:

Yes, but there are loans out there that are just for people with bad credit-I've found them myself. I've got horrible credit, and a bankruptcy on me too, and have called a couple of loan places that said that does not matter. Here's a couple....

I've applied online for companies who are supposed to find a lender for you to no avail. Even at that, the payments are too high per month -can't afford that route.

I'm pretty sure the quote this doc I see in Sept gives me will be good for a while. They are usually good for a year. So, we'll see what happens with time.

TY for the suggestion though... but if you go that route --- watch out for the interest fees, too.

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Brig-have you tried a loan yet? I had thought about applying for a loan, and then immediately doing a debt consolidation program to cut it in half....wonder if that would work? lolKissofSadness@... wrote: In a message dated 9/2/2006 6:02:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, GMCLADY98aol writes: Brig...did you sell your truck ? Not yet -still workin' on a plan. Thanks for asking! Brig :)

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Yes, but there are loans out there that are just for people with bad credit-I've found them myself. I've got horrible credit, and a bankruptcy on me too, and have called a couple of loan places that said that does not matter. Here's a couple.... http://www.personalloanmarket.com/bad-credit-personal-loans.htm http://www.badcreditloansources.biz/ http://www.fastunsecuredloans.com/ And here's a place that does plastic surgery financing! http://www.financingplasticsurgery.com/ KissofSadness@... wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2006 1:24:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, leyna1964 writes: Brig-have you tried a loan yet? I had thought about applying for a loan, and then immediately doing a debt consolidation program to cut it in half....wonder if that would work? lol We have bad credit, no collateral, and don't have hundreds per month to pay

on a loan. Hubby was trying to get a loan (advance) from his boss, but he can't get that much doing that. The decline of my health was the decline of our C-R-E-D-I-T! __________________________________________________

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Sandy, after reading your post, I got thinking about what has

happened to me in the past -- I used to have doozy panic attacks and

end up jumping out of our vehicle as my ex-husband drove into the ER

drop-off spot! They'd shoot me full of demorol and I would be in lala

land for 12 hrs. One of the reasons for these panic attacks can be

that they are coming from an emotional/mental level from all the

stress we've all had to go through. Or past experiences as a child,

traumatic events, still stored in the subconscious mind.

When I was living on the West Coast, my friend Ron - Holistic

Educator/Healer, did a series of treatments with me

called " clearings " which took me into my subconscious mind (without

hynotism) and I discovered some traumatic incidents in my life were

causing me to react today, especially when it was due to health

issues. About the only way I could get attention from my Mom when I

was young was to be ill. She worked full-time 6 days a week and my

sister basicly raised me. She resented me and treated me poorly.

When I took that pattern into my adult life, it did not go over very

well in my relationships, as I believed the only way to get love was

to be sick. My Mom would bring me toys, comics, etc. home to

alleviate her guilt. Well, that sure caused problems for me in my

marriage. When I found out what I was doing, I went to some session

and " re-progammed " myself. There are still remnants of this left,

because whenever my son & wife go shopping and I'm babysitting, I ask

them to get me a treat! (Usually when I'm not feeling

well.....interesting, eh?)

I was so impressed with this method, I asked him to train me. He did

so one-on-one for a year and a half. I would do sessions with him,

to help him as well. That's the best way to learn, in my opinion, is

to do. He called it " clearings " or " neural network therapy " .

There was a friend of mine whose husband was a pastor of a church

here in Red Deer...this was funny.....he wanted to make breakfast for

her and surprise her one morning. She woke up earlier than he

expected and was in the kitchen to make coffee. He walked in with a

full apron on and she had a BIG reaction. " WHAT are you DOING? " She

exclaimed. She usually didn't talk to him like that, ever! He

said, " I wanted to make you breakfast, cuz you've been so busy

lately, I wanted to surprise you! " She burst into tears and left the

room. Huh??? In a few minutes, he tapped on their bedroom

door... " are you o.k.? " She came out and hugged him. They sat and

talked about the " trigger " when she saw him in an apron, her Mom was

standing there all of a sudden, and she unconsciously reacted to a

day when her Mom was really mean to her, in that kind of setting. So

the apron ticked her off! Knowing these tools, they talked it over

and prayed together, and he continued to spoil her with breakfast

plans.

Wow, I didn't intend for this to be an essay!!!! It's amazing how

past decisions and experiences can affect our lives today. For

example, it's like when a 5 yr. old learns how to tie their

shoes...they try and try and then all of a sudden, they can do it.

Once that happens they simply tie them automatically. Similar to

when we drive...we do all kinds of actions " without thinking "

consciously. Anyway, I'm a real advocate of looking at all 4 areas

when I'm dealing with disease. I spent most of my life hearing " it's

all in your head " . Ninety percent of our physical symptoms are

psychosomatic, which just means the process begins in our brain, with

thoughts, which turn into feelings which manifest in our bodies, as

stress & disease. Whoa, I'm really chatty today, aren't I?? I'm just

so passionate about this subject.

I hope this helps a bit...I'm currently working on another level of

why I need to " save " people...I worked on the rescuer thing for years

and learned the hard way that I can't save the world, but sure can

make a dent. When I was a child, there wasn't anyone to stand up for

me. To advocate for me...so as a mother I went a bit overboard with

my children...being there at the school when there was a conflict

between teacher/student. On the good side, I taught them to be

assertive and stand up for themselves and to be accountable for their

behaviour. On the negative side, I was not popular with most of the

teachers, and the boys were picked on for that reason. All in all,

it was worth it. Now, in my life, I feel more balanced with

it...we'll see when I begin my volunteering with homeless people

again. That'll be a big test.

Hope you're weekend is awesome...Nurture thyself with hot baths and

candlelight! Hmmm...Sunny, take your own advice. It's been weeks

since I had a luxurious bath! Oh, oh, that didn't sound very

good....I HAVE had showers. lol

Love,

Sunny :)

>

> When I was explanted a lot of my symptoms dissapated immediately

> Dam shame how these implants effected our minds, bodies, and souls

>

> Now I have to go back and get cut open again because I never knew

> anything about capsules/scar tissue until I found this support group

>

> I am hoping after this surgery I wont have this shallow rapid

breathing

> and the feeling of my heart fluttering all the time. I have had

three panic attacks

>

> My one emergency trip to the hospital they kept me there overnight

they thought I had a heart attack.

> I passed thier stress test so they called in a specialist.

>

> Now they are saying I have a delayed electron.

> Gheez.....what next !

>

> Sandy

>

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Brigite, thanks for the reminder about the Serenity Prayer. I need to

buy a poster and put it in my bedroom again. I used to have a sign up

on my fridge that said " Acceptance is the key to Serenity "

and " Expect the Unexpected " -- must get those up again!

Love & Healing Prayers,

Sunny :)

>

> Panic attacks and anxiety attacks are tough to deal with. I've had

them

> since I was 12 -I'm 31 now. (I've sat in the ER many a time

wondering if I was

> having a heart attack.) What helped me most in life was to

literally remove (or

> ignore) as many stressors as possible. Whether it means people,

places,

> situations -what ever, I cut it all out where possible. Even close

family. It's

> worked wonders for the frequency of my attacks.

>

> I've never believed in taking drugs like Klonopin, Ativan, or

Xanax EVERY

> DAY for the 'chance' that I'd have a panic or anxiety attack this

very day out

> of the 30 days of the month. (Say you have 10 per month, that's 20

days

> you're medicating yourself when you didn't really need it.) All of

these have been

> prescribed and thrown at me since I was a kid. I prefer keeping

something on

> hand to take 'for the chance' it happens to treat it then, instead

of the

> opposite. Even then I start out at the lowest possible dose, and

only step it up

> if need be.

>

>

>

> " God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

the courage

> to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. "

>

> These are VITAL words to live by when dealing with anxiety and

panic

> disorders!!! This type of stress will only halt healing.

>

> So anyway, hang in there... and cut stress where you can so that

you'll have

> the energy to deal with the things you cannot change instead of

fretting

> over the things you can. For the things you cannot change -lean on

your friends

> and support systems and do the best you can with what you have!

>

> Brigite :)

>

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Sandy,

Me too I have to go back because only 1 capsule was removed, I know

exactly how you feel, I have had that fluttering since I was pregnant

with my daughter 10 years ago. I thought it was the baby moving it

felt just like that, Dr. said no it was too early to feel the baby

move, I still get it around my heart, I think it is just the muscles

spasming and twitching, I hate it sometimes it hurts like an electric

shock, I get it in the head too which usually triggers a migraine,

Terri P

Sandy we need to hang in this together,

TerriP

Hawaii

>

> When I was explanted a lot of my symptoms dissapated immediately

> Dam shame how these implants effected our minds, bodies, and souls

>

> Now I have to go back and get cut open again because I never knew

> anything about capsules/scar tissue until I found this support group

>

> I am hoping after this surgery I wont have this shallow rapid

breathing

> and the feeling of my heart fluttering all the time. I have had

three panic attacks

>

> My one emergency trip to the hospital they kept me there overnight

they thought I had a heart attack.

> I passed thier stress test so they called in a specialist.

>

> Now they are saying I have a delayed electron.

> Gheez.....what next !

>

> Sandy

>

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Sandy,

As far a the HPV goes, you have had the virus for some time, if you have not

been sexually active for 6 years. Your viral load has probably increased

because of your deteriorating overall health. This could flare the HPV up,

even if you were asymptomatic since contracting it. What treatment did your

doctor recommend for treating it? No need to fret about it, just be sure to

do whatever he/she said to do.

Put vitamin E directly on your son's wound to help it heal. Just poke a

hole in the capsule and squirt it out and rub it in.

What steps at detoxing have you begun? Even with the capsules still in your

body, detoxing will still be effective at helping you to heal. I know you

were trying to figure out a form of exercise to help drop weight as well.

Have you begun some sort of exercise program? If you are doing some gentle

walking, it will help your body drop weight because it is more than you have

been doing, especially if you drop your caloric intake some as well. I

wished nearby and could go out and walk with you. The reason gastric bypass

is so effective is that patients' caloric intake is limited by the surgery.

If you can limit your intake on your own, you can achieve the same result

much more healthfully.

Kenda

>

> Which leads me to believe my panic attacks and shallow rapid breathing is most

> likely because of the capsules/junk that were left behind when my implants

> were removed.

>

> Now I have added problems on my plate

>

> Just do not know which problem to conquer first here

>

> HPV- I am clueless as I am not active at all and have not been for over six

> years because I am sick all the time and being a mom is about all I can manage

> thus far

>

> My son fell Thursday night and needed five stitches in his finger.

>

> I bought him vitamin E Scar Serum for his finger for when the stitches come

> out.

>

> Should I give him a vitamin e capsule to take also ?

>

> If so should he begin taking one capsule a day now?

>

> Sandy~

>

> I have the same problems....EXTREME anxiety and panic attacks. I sure hope it

> goes away after I get rid of these things!

>

> auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote:

>

> I wasn't moody after explant. I was extremely emotional while I had

> the implants, and had panic attacks all the time, but I haven't had

> one panic attack since the implants were removed. I wasn't proneto

> them before implants, and the whole six months that I had implants I had panic

> attacks.

>

>

> .

>

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Sandy, The HPV thing is probably a sign then that the implants have weakened your immune system to the point that the virus has become active. You probably had it for a long time and never knew it. Some of the symptoms associated with implants are that women get every cold that comes along, and also flu-like symptoms. It's amazing that doctors have not recognized the damage implants have on our immune systems. So sorry to hear about your son! You can give him Vitamin E if you like, but I don't think it is absolutely necessary. Patty Sandy Verticelli <dusty.com@...> wrote: Which leads me to believe my panic attacks and shallow rapid breathing is most likely because of the capsules/junk that were left behind when my implants were removed. Now I have added problems on my plate Just do not know which problem to conquer first here HPV- I am clueless as I am not active at all and have not been for over six years because I am sick all the time and being a mom is about all I can manage thus far My

son fell Thursday night and needed five stitches in his finger. I bought him vitamin E Scar Serum for his finger for when the stitches come out. Should I give him a vitamin e capsule to take also ? If so should he begin taking one capsule a day now? Sandy~ I have the same problems....EXTREME anxiety and panic attacks. I sure hope it goes away after I get rid of these things!auntsisnj <auntsisnjlycos> wrote: I wasn't moody after explant. I was extremely emotional while I had the implants, and had panic attacks all the time, but I haven't

had one panic attack since the implants were removed. I wasn't proneto them before implants, and the whole six months that I had implants I had panic attacks. . __________________________________________________

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This is great news that these attacks might stop after I have my explant surgery done. I am glad you aren't experiencing these anymore Sandy, they are just awful!! Katy:)Sandy <dusty.com@...> wrote: Soon after having saline implant augumentation back in 1999 I have had three panic attacks and the first one was very bad I have to control any stress in my life because after being implanted I still live with a rapid heartbeat because my capsules were left behind If only I could get these capsules removed my heart rate would improve Sandy~ Yes, I think panic attacks occur with a lot of our implanted women, and sometimes also during detoxing.Katy,The only time in my life that I had panic attacks was when I hadimplants - I had them very frequently during the 6 months that I hadimplants, and haven't had a single once since explant. .

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Katy,

I know since removal I have not had the panic attacks either. They go away with a PROPER explant. I know have black outs so this is scary, but my surgeon seems to think it is from the mercury fillings in my teeth, metal poisoning. Didn't bother what so ever until implants, now highly sensitive to everything.

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Welcome Ivy!

Your point about panic attacks is well taken! And common sense!

Why aren't doctors considering this, rather than blaming the patient?

Thanks!

Rogene

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Thank you for this, Ivy. Most of us have what seems like a panic attack, but it is not. I know that for me it was respiratory problems, and eventually my doctors did believe me. There were times when I could not get a deep breath, and later this became so bad that my doctors sent me to a respiratory therapist. They did a stress test, and they confirmed that I had a breathing problem. My story is too long, but I want every woman to know that just because you have your implants removed does not mean that you are completely well. It will take time to get the poison out of your system, if in fact we can. My breathing is still at only 40%; however, in my opinion, it would get better if I could learn to breathe properly again. Most all of us have been so stressed out over these unsafe devices that we forget how to breathe...that is my problem.

We all know that doctors would rather give us something to shut us up, and many women have fallen prey to this. These women change in so many ways once they are on medication...they no longer want to be heard. I will give you one example. A lady in Vancouver, Canada, was fighting so hard for us, even though she had been threatened by the Dark Side, but she would not stop. Later, she was put on Elavil and she stopped fighting. We were so shocked in that she became a different person...she no longer calls anyone!

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I loathe the phrase "Panic Attacks". It gives everyone one moreopportunity to tell us "it's all in your head".I think the symptoms are likely caused by the immune system pumpingtoo much adrenaline. Adrenal weakness seems to be common when theautoimmune system is trying hard to fix everything.Here is a brief excerpt from an article I just found:"What does adrenaline do?Physically, adrenaline increases your heart rate, raises your bloodpressure, and is associated with a diversion of blood away from thenon essential areas of your brain and internal organs and into yourmuscles. * * * What does an adrenaline surge feel like?Adrenaline can make you feel energized, or it can make you feel shaky,weak or sick to your stomach. Sometimes all of these feelings come atthe same time, which can be confusing. Results of an adrenaline surgemight also include:• feeling as though time has slowed down.• tunnel vision, where you only see what is in front of you and notwhat is around you.• a sensation of your mind wandering or floating, making it hard toconcentrate.• decreased coordination.• difficulty in thinking clearly."http://www.kidpowervancouver.org/Article-Adrenaline.html"Hugs to all the Panic Attackees. :-)Ivy

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This sounds like it's related to our brain fog, big time!

Thanks for this important information. Adrenal support should be big on our list of things to do. We've touched on this subject several times in the past.

What I find interesting is that for almost all of us, there is some involvement of the endocrine system.

The thyroid is very often affected. I wonder if the adrenals are too often overlooked?

The adrenal glands require large amounts of Vitamin C--that I know--and there are herbs such as ashwaghanda and schizandra.

I might look into some support supplements.

http://www.herbsforliving.com/Gaia-Herbs-Adrenal-Health-60-liquid-phyto-caps-p-224.html

Patty

Panic Attacks

I loathe the phrase "Panic Attacks". It gives everyone one moreopportunity to tell us "it's all in your head".I think the symptoms are likely caused by the immune system pumpingtoo much adrenaline. Adrenal weakness seems to be common when theautoimmune system is trying hard to fix everything.Here is a brief excerpt from an article I just found:"What does adrenaline do?Physically, adrenaline increases your heart rate, raises your bloodpressure, and is associated with a diversion of blood away from thenon essential areas of your brain and internal organs and into yourmuscles. * * * What does an adrenaline surge feel like?Adrenaline can make you feel energized, or it can make you feel shaky,weak or sick to your stomach. Sometimes all of these feelings come atthe same time, which can be confusing. Results of an adrenaline surgemight also include:• feeling as though time has slowed

down.• tunnel vision, where you only see what is in front of you and notwhat is around you.• a sensation of your mind wandering or floating, making it hard toconcentrate.• decreased coordination.• difficulty in thinking clearly."http://www.kidpower vancouver. org/Article- Adrenaline. html"Hugs to all the Panic Attackees. :-)Ivy

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Hi Sandy, I'm sorry, I did misunderstand your post!! I am so sorry that you are still not well and that you are having a difficult time finding someone to do your capsulectomy. I think it is terrible that the cost prevents so many of us from being able to get better and get the surgeries we need! The heart palpitations and panic attacks, (or whatever they are) are terrible! I wish you hope in your search and your recovery... Katy:)Sandy <dusty.com@...> wrote: Katy, I think you misunderstood me, I was not explanted properly I still suffer from panic attacks and a rapid heartbeat because my plastic surgeon left the capsules behind when he removed my implants I cannot find any

surgeon in or around my hometown to remove them These other plastic surgeons claim they are afraid that they will maim me for life. Dr Kolb on our referral list is not afraid to remove capsules and believes implants can make woman sick and Dr Kolb does not maim you for life. but her practice does not accept my insurance and she is located to far away as I am now left partially

crippled from those Safe Saline Implants.!! I need to find a surgeon who will remove my capsules For me to regain more of my health back So far this journey has not been promising, Sandy~ This is great news that these attacks might stop after I have my explant surgery done. I am glad you aren't

experiencing these anymore Sandy, they are just awful!! Katy:)Sandy <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Soon after having saline implant augumentation back in 1999 I have had three panic attacks and the first one was very bad I have to control any stress in my life because after being implanted I still live with a rapid heartbeat because my capsules were left behind If

only I could get these capsules removed my heart rate would improve Sandy~ Yes, I think panic attacks occur with a lot of our implanted women, and sometimes also during detoxing.Katy,The only time in my life that I had panic attacks was when I hadimplants - I had them very frequently during the 6 months that I hadimplants, and haven't had a single once since explant. . .

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Katy,

Yes our Sandy is only one example of women who are not only robbed once, but twice from there old PS. Proper explant is critical for regaining health, this is what this group is here for, to warn of how import proper removal is. I can't express enough about proper removal. Hearing women's stories like Sandy and Gretchen and others before them. Go back and read about a lady named Margie Horan, this nightmare of in inproper explants. I remember Margie explaining how her old ps took her into his office sat her in a chair, cut a small slice under the crease of her breast, punctured the implant, letting this toxic bio-toxin release into her body, she was so sick and never recovered, only got worse. Sandy's PS ripped her toxic salines out through her armpits and it just bother's me how any PS could have such nerve to even do that. Knowing there was no way for him to remove the contents of the shell through a valve tube. He had no other way but to go in and puncture the toxin shell, releasing all the bio toxin into her body, to then absorbed. Do they want you to get well or do they do this to keep you sick? I will truly never understand..........

God Bless You Sandy, Gretchen and Margie. I will pray you find a way to get those capsules removed properly and get drains, someday soon.

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Goodmorning Dianne ~

Can you describe exactly what happens during your panic attack? Big question, does your heart race during the attack? When you have another one, will you take your pulse and let me know how many beats per minute it is beating? One of the best ways is to check it from your jugler vein on your neck. Located to the right of your vocal cords. I had some strange things sorta like what I would have called panic attacks, but it was something else. It did start after implants...........My prayers are with you, and I am so happy you are getting those time bombs out of you soon. What a blessing !

Hugs ~ DedeAOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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