Re: 2 months post explant

April 30, 2006

Hi Marcy,

It is great to hear from you!! I'm almost 6 months post-explant,

and I think it's great news that two months post-explant you no

longer have the flu-like symptoms. That's a step in the right

direction. Exercising, eating right, taking Primal Defense, the

sauna - those are all going to help you quite a bit. I felt very

little improvement for the first 4 or 5 months, although my blood

pressure did drop within the first month, and the headaches did,

too. This past month, the brain fog has eased up quite a bit, and

the joint pain has gotten much better. It still flares up on some

days, but it's improving.

Your friends are right about the fact that there are ways to dress

that enhance a small bustline. Since I'm 45 and only had the

implants for six months, I'm an old pro at dressing to maximize the

bust!! During the six months that I had implants, I was upset that

I had to change my style of dressing, because instead of trying to

draw attention that that area, I now needed to push attention away.

Oddly enough, the clothes to wear when you're small really do

accentuate a small top and bring the focus to that area. There are

things to avoid as well. No matter what size we are, we all either

have to draw attention to or from an area, so it's not just that

we're small breasted. Everyone dances the dance, because no one is

perfect.

Sis

>

> Hi Ladies,

>

> I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been gone

again --

> but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages. I have

to

> tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing with a

lot

> of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant, so I

wanted

> to give everyone an update on how I am doing.

>

> I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my breast

> implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief from is

I

> now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender

breasts.

> It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with thinking

it

> was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so nice to

be

> able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my

chest. I

> never really noticed this part until I had my implants out. It is

> nice being me again. )

>

> About 6 months after I got my implants I started having bouts

where I

> felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on. The

last

> year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel so much

> better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my

implants

> out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9

months,

> then you give birth and you feel better again.

>

> I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some days

with

> relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad again. I

get

> burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will have

days

> where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches and

pains

> get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days

without. I

> also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I had done

> this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my problems. I

am

> 30 years old with arthritis. (

>

> I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been rough,

> especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me hopping!!

But

> not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.

>

> Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really made

an

> effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever possible,

but

> have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating organic has

> also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more on

buying

> certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I also

have

> drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath,

ginger, or

> vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my sauna.

I

> love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am excited

about

> the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how good it

> feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a couple

of

> soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I am

usually

> pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is hard

though

> to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in pain.

>

> The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough. Some days

are

> better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post about

> having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has been

really

> supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very self

> consious at times and find myself covering myself up. Easter

weekend

> was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First of

all

> the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we stayed

at

> a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along

thinking

> it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the top, so

the

> seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just crushed. I

> felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to get

when I

> walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when bathing,

quickly

> covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am changing, I

even

> worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and kept

a

> towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down quite

a

> ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it doesn't

help

> matters. It has just been recently that I have started to feel

better

> about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then others

will

> view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so she

has

> been really supportive. She has given me some good advice on what

to

> wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim wear. It

> does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like now

because

> I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, " trust me

looks

> can be deceiving " -- ha ha!! My father who works at a college

told me

> about 2 woman who work with him that have had their breasts

removed

> due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few years

back

> in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman have

such

> an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest size. I

try

> to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard though as

we

> are an appearance driven society.

>

> Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your posts

and

> sharing. It keeps me going!!!

> Love and hugs, Marcy

>

April 30, 2006

Hi Sis,

Thank you for your reply. I am glad to hear that you too are

starting to feel better. Some days are better than other days for

me. You were explanted by Dr Feng, right?

Marcy

, " auntsisnj " <auntsisnj@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Marcy,

>

> It is great to hear from you!! I'm almost 6 months post-explant,

> and I think it's great news that two months post-explant you no

> longer have the flu-like symptoms. That's a step in the right

> direction. Exercising, eating right, taking Primal Defense, the

> sauna - those are all going to help you quite a bit. I felt very

> little improvement for the first 4 or 5 months, although my blood

> pressure did drop within the first month, and the headaches did,

> too. This past month, the brain fog has eased up quite a bit, and

> the joint pain has gotten much better. It still flares up on some

> days, but it's improving.

>

> Your friends are right about the fact that there are ways to dress

> that enhance a small bustline. Since I'm 45 and only had the

> implants for six months, I'm an old pro at dressing to maximize

the

> bust!! During the six months that I had implants, I was upset

that

> I had to change my style of dressing, because instead of trying to

> draw attention that that area, I now needed to push attention

away.

> Oddly enough, the clothes to wear when you're small really do

> accentuate a small top and bring the focus to that area. There

are

> things to avoid as well. No matter what size we are, we all

either

> have to draw attention to or from an area, so it's not just that

> we're small breasted. Everyone dances the dance, because no one

is

> perfect.

>

> Sis

>

> >

> > Hi Ladies,

> >

> > I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been gone

> again --

> > but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages. I have

> to

> > tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing with a

> lot

> > of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant, so I

> wanted

> > to give everyone an update on how I am doing.

> >

> > I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my breast

> > implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief from

is

> I

> > now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender

> breasts.

> > It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with

thinking

> it

> > was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so nice

to

> be

> > able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my

> chest. I

> > never really noticed this part until I had my implants out. It

is

> > nice being me again. )

> >

> > About 6 months after I got my implants I started having bouts

> where I

> > felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on. The

> last

> > year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel so

much

> > better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my

> implants

> > out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9

> months,

> > then you give birth and you feel better again.

> >

> > I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some days

> with

> > relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad again.

I

> get

> > burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will have

> days

> > where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches and

> pains

> > get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days

> without. I

> > also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I had

done

> > this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my problems.

I

> am

> > 30 years old with arthritis. (

> >

> > I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been rough,

> > especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me

hopping!!

> But

> > not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.

> >

> > Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really

made

> an

> > effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever

possible,

> but

> > have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating organic

has

> > also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more on

> buying

> > certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I also

> have

> > drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath,

> ginger, or

> > vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my

sauna.

> I

> > love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am excited

> about

> > the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how good

it

> > feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a couple

> of

> > soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I am

> usually

> > pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is hard

> though

> > to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in pain.

> >

> > The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough. Some

days

> are

> > better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post about

> > having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has been

> really

> > supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very self

> > consious at times and find myself covering myself up. Easter

> weekend

> > was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First of

> all

> > the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we

stayed

> at

> > a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along

> thinking

> > it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the top, so

> the

> > seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just crushed.

I

> > felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to get

> when I

> > walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when bathing,

> quickly

> > covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am changing,

I

> even

> > worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and

kept

> a

> > towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down

quite

> a

> > ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it

doesn't

> help

> > matters. It has just been recently that I have started to feel

> better

> > about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then others

> will

> > view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so she

> has

> > been really supportive. She has given me some good advice on

what

> to

> > wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim wear.

It

> > does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like now

> because

> > I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, " trust me

> looks

> > can be deceiving " -- ha ha!! My father who works at a college

> told me

> > about 2 woman who work with him that have had their breasts

> removed

> > due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few years

> back

> > in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman have

> such

> > an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest size.

I

> try

> > to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard though

as

> we

> > are an appearance driven society.

> >

> > Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your

posts

> and

> > sharing. It keeps me going!!!

> > Love and hugs, Marcy

> >

>

April 30, 2006

Hi Marcy,

Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are

better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I took

a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must be

herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the

past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts

caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I already

knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at this

point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a

ways to go.

Sis

> >

> > Hi Marcy,

> >

> > It is great to hear from you!! I'm almost 6 months post-

explant,

> > and I think it's great news that two months post-explant you no

> > longer have the flu-like symptoms. That's a step in the right

> > direction. Exercising, eating right, taking Primal Defense, the

> > sauna - those are all going to help you quite a bit. I felt

very

> > little improvement for the first 4 or 5 months, although my

blood

> > pressure did drop within the first month, and the headaches did,

> > too. This past month, the brain fog has eased up quite a bit,

and

> > the joint pain has gotten much better. It still flares up on

some

> > days, but it's improving.

> >

> > Your friends are right about the fact that there are ways to

dress

> > that enhance a small bustline. Since I'm 45 and only had the

> > implants for six months, I'm an old pro at dressing to maximize

> the

> > bust!! During the six months that I had implants, I was upset

> that

> > I had to change my style of dressing, because instead of trying

to

> > draw attention that that area, I now needed to push attention

> away.

> > Oddly enough, the clothes to wear when you're small really do

> > accentuate a small top and bring the focus to that area. There

> are

> > things to avoid as well. No matter what size we are, we all

> either

> > have to draw attention to or from an area, so it's not just that

> > we're small breasted. Everyone dances the dance, because no one

> is

> > perfect.

> >

> > Sis

> >

> > --- In , " mkkinzy1 " <mkkinzy@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Ladies,

> > >

> > > I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been gone

> > again --

> > > but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages. I

have

> > to

> > > tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing with

a

> > lot

> > > of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant, so

I

> > wanted

> > > to give everyone an update on how I am doing.

> > >

> > > I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my breast

> > > implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief from

> is

> > I

> > > now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender

> > breasts.

> > > It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with

> thinking

> > it

> > > was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so

nice

> to

> > be

> > > able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my

> > chest. I

> > > never really noticed this part until I had my implants out.

It

> is

> > > nice being me again. )

> > >

> > > About 6 months after I got my implants I started having bouts

> > where I

> > > felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on. The

> > last

> > > year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel so

> much

> > > better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my

> > implants

> > > out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9

> > months,

> > > then you give birth and you feel better again.

> > >

> > > I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some days

> > with

> > > relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad

again.

> I

> > get

> > > burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will have

> > days

> > > where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches and

> > pains

> > > get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days

> > without. I

> > > also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I had

> done

> > > this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my

problems.

> I

> > am

> > > 30 years old with arthritis. (

> > >

> > > I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been

rough,

> > > especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me

> hopping!!

> > But

> > > not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.

> > >

> > > Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really

> made

> > an

> > > effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever

> possible,

> > but

> > > have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating organic

> has

> > > also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more on

> > buying

> > > certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I also

> > have

> > > drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath,

> > ginger, or

> > > vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my

> sauna.

> > I

> > > love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am

excited

> > about

> > > the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how good

> it

> > > feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a

couple

> > of

> > > soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I am

> > usually

> > > pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is hard

> > though

> > > to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in

pain.

> > >

> > > The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough. Some

> days

> > are

> > > better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post

about

> > > having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has been

> > really

> > > supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very

self

> > > consious at times and find myself covering myself up. Easter

> > weekend

> > > was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First

of

> > all

> > > the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we

> stayed

> > at

> > > a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along

> > thinking

> > > it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the top,

so

> > the

> > > seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just

crushed.

> I

> > > felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to

get

> > when I

> > > walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when bathing,

> > quickly

> > > covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am

changing,

> I

> > even

> > > worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and

> kept

> > a

> > > towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down

> quite

> > a

> > > ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it

> doesn't

> > help

> > > matters. It has just been recently that I have started to

feel

> > better

> > > about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then

others

> > will

> > > view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so

she

> > has

> > > been really supportive. She has given me some good advice on

> what

> > to

> > > wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim

wear.

> It

> > > does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like now

> > because

> > > I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, " trust

me

> > looks

> > > can be deceiving " -- ha ha!! My father who works at a college

> > told me

> > > about 2 woman who work with him that have had their breasts

> > removed

> > > due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few

years

> > back

> > > in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman

have

> > such

> > > an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest

size.

> I

> > try

> > > to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard

though

> as

> > we

> > > are an appearance driven society.

> > >

> > > Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your

> posts

> > and

> > > sharing. It keeps me going!!!

> > > Love and hugs, Marcy

> > >

> >

>

April 30, 2006

Sis,

I too am having a not so good day. I am thinking it is do to the

change in weather. It is rainy and cold here. My hips and ankles

hurt so bad today. I just turned on my sauna and hope my kids

cooperate, so I can sit in it for a bit.

Did Dr Feng give you any advice as far as how to help aid your body

in healing? She did give me a printout with a list of foods that

are good antioxidents and foods that contain more chemicals. She

told me that it takes about a year. I am hopeful, but wonder about

my arthritis. Isn't that something that once you have it you always

have it?

Hugs, Marcy

> > > >

> > > > Hi Ladies,

> > > >

> > > > I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been

gone

> > > again --

> > > > but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages. I

> have

> > > to

> > > > tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing

with

> a

> > > lot

> > > > of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant,

so

> I

> > > wanted

> > > > to give everyone an update on how I am doing.

> > > >

> > > > I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my

breast

> > > > implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief

from

> > is

> > > I

> > > > now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender

> > > breasts.

> > > > It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with

> > thinking

> > > it

> > > > was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so

> nice

> > to

> > > be

> > > > able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my

> > > chest. I

> > > > never really noticed this part until I had my implants out.

> It

> > is

> > > > nice being me again. )

> > > >

> > > > About 6 months after I got my implants I started having

bouts

> > > where I

> > > > felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on.

The

> > > last

> > > > year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel

so

> > much

> > > > better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my

> > > implants

> > > > out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9

> > > months,

> > > > then you give birth and you feel better again.

> > > >

> > > > I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some

days

> > > with

> > > > relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad

> again.

> > I

> > > get

> > > > burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will

have

> > > days

> > > > where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches

and

> > > pains

> > > > get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days

> > > without. I

> > > > also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I

had

> > done

> > > > this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my

> problems.

> > I

> > > am

> > > > 30 years old with arthritis. (

> > > >

> > > > I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been

> rough,

> > > > especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me

> > hopping!!

> > > But

> > > > not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.

> > > >

> > > > Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really

> > made

> > > an

> > > > effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever

> > possible,

> > > but

> > > > have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating

organic

> > has

> > > > also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more

on

> > > buying

> > > > certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I

also

> > > have

> > > > drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath,

> > > ginger, or

> > > > vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my

> > sauna.

> > > I

> > > > love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am

> excited

> > > about

> > > > the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how

good

> > it

> > > > feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a

> couple

> > > of

> > > > soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I

am

> > > usually

> > > > pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is

hard

> > > though

> > > > to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in

> pain.

> > > >

> > > > The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough.

Some

> > days

> > > are

> > > > better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post

> about

> > > > having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has

been

> > > really

> > > > supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very

> self

> > > > consious at times and find myself covering myself up.

Easter

> > > weekend

> > > > was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First

> of

> > > all

> > > > the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we

> > stayed

> > > at

> > > > a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along

> > > thinking

> > > > it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the

top,

> so

> > > the

> > > > seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just

> crushed.

> > I

> > > > felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to

> get

> > > when I

> > > > walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when

bathing,

> > > quickly

> > > > covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am

> changing,

> > I

> > > even

> > > > worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and

> > kept

> > > a

> > > > towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down

> > quite

> > > a

> > > > ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it

> > doesn't

> > > help

> > > > matters. It has just been recently that I have started to

> feel

> > > better

> > > > about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then

> others

> > > will

> > > > view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so

> she

> > > has

> > > > been really supportive. She has given me some good advice

on

> > what

> > > to

> > > > wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim

> wear.

> > It

> > > > does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like

now

> > > because

> > > > I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, " trust

> me

> > > looks

> > > > can be deceiving " -- ha ha!! My father who works at a

college

> > > told me

> > > > about 2 woman who work with him that have had their breasts

> > > removed

> > > > due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few

> years

> > > back

> > > > in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman

> have

> > > such

> > > > an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest

> size.

> > I

> > > try

> > > > to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard

> though

> > as

> > > we

> > > > are an appearance driven society.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your

> > posts

> > > and

> > > > sharing. It keeps me going!!!

> > > > Love and hugs, Marcy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 30, 2006

I would like to know about the osteoarthritis, as well. I have two thumbs that are useless. I open my shampooh in the shower by squeezing the bottle with my elbows. I've had my thumbs injected with steroids by my orthopod, wtice, without relief. Prior to making any connection with this symptom to my implants, I'd planned to have reconstructive surgery on my thumbs. I will consider, instead, waiting until after my explantation to see whether I have improvement. I doubt that, though, as there are surely structural changes in the joint and that should not repair.

Sherry

Re: 2 months post explant

Sis,I too am having a not so good day. I am thinking it is do to the change in weather. It is rainy and cold here. My hips and ankles hurt so bad today. I just turned on my sauna and hope my kids cooperate, so I can sit in it for a bit.Did Dr Feng give you any advice as far as how to help aid your body in healing? She did give me a printout with a list of foods that are good antioxidents and foods that contain more chemicals. She told me that it takes about a year. I am hopeful, but wonder about my arthritis. Isn't that something that once you have it you always have it?Hugs, Marcy>> Hi Marcy,> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I took > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must be > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I already > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at this > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a > ways to go.> > Sis

April 30, 2006

Whatever you do, do not let them put in silicone joints, as they are

causing a mass of problems.

My osteoarthritis improved dramatically after explant.

Many others did also, but detoxing your body is a must.

Lynda

At 05:12 PM 4/30/2006, you wrote:

>

>I would like to know about the osteoarthritis, as well. I have two

>thumbs that are useless. I open my shampooh in the shower by

>squeezing the bottle with my elbows. I've had my thumbs injected

>with steroids by my orthopod, wtice, without relief. Prior to making

>any connection with this symptom to my implants, I'd planned to have

>reconstructive surgery on my thumbs. I will consider, instead,

>waiting until after my explantation to see whether I have

>improvement. I doubt that, though, as there are surely structural

>changes in the joint and that should not repair.

> Sherry

> Re: 2 months post explant

>

>Sis,

>I too am having a not so good day. I am thinking it is do to the

>change in weather. It is rainy and cold here. My hips and ankles

>hurt so bad today. I just turned on my sauna and hope my kids

>cooperate, so I can sit in it for a bit.

>Did Dr Feng give you any advice as far as how to help aid your body

>in healing? She did give me a printout with a list of foods that

>are good antioxidents and foods that contain more chemicals. She

>told me that it takes about a year. I am hopeful, but wonder about

>my arthritis. Isn't that something that once you have it you always

>have it?

>Hugs, Marcy

>--- In

><mailto: > ,

> " auntsisnj " <auntsisnj@...>

>wrote:

> >

> > Hi Marcy,

> >

> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are

> > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I

>took

> > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must

>be

> > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the

> > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts

> > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I

>already

> > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at

>this

> > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a

> > ways to go.

> >

> > Sis

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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April 30, 2006

Thank you so much. This is certainly encouraging....

Re: 2 months post explant>>>Sis,>I too am having a not so good day. I am thinking it is do to the>change in weather. It is rainy and cold here. My hips and ankles>hurt so bad today. I just turned on my sauna and hope my kids>cooperate, so I can sit in it for a bit.>Did Dr Feng give you any advice as far as how to help aid your body>in healing? She did give me a printout with a list of foods that>are good antioxidents and foods that contain more chemicals. She>told me that it takes about a year. I am hopeful, but wonder about>my arthritis. Isn't that something that once you have it you always>have it?>Hugs, Marcy>--- In ><mailto: > , >"auntsisnj" <auntsisnj@...>>wrote:> >> > Hi Marcy,> >> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are> > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I>took> > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must>be> > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the> > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts> > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I>already> > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at>this> > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a> > ways to go.> >> > Sis>>>>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.>>"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a >better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)>>See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.com/action/>>

April 30, 2006

Hi Marcy and Sis

I have to chime in, and tell you that I'm also having a not so good

day. But I helped friends move twice this week, thinking I am all

better and can do anything - ha! I think this chest pain will take

some rest to heal, rather than detox. My husband wants to treat me

to a Blizzard at DQ right now, and I am so worried about going off

my organic dairy free sugar free diet that I don't know if I can

even enjoy it if I do. Such decisions!

Marcy, I'm so glad you posted. I have arthritis too, I believe from

immune dysfunction caused by implants. I am six months out too, and

have seen A LOT of improvement - though very up and down for six

months. Just recently, after a lot of detox efforts, I have been

feeling wonderful. What kind of sauna did you get? I have been

going to a local place to the IR sauna, which works for me, but I am

wondering about what you purchased and how it works. Hang in there

Marcy - you'll start to see improvement soon.

Cherie

> >

> > Hi Ladies,

> >

> > I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been gone

> again --

> > but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages. I have

> to

> > tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing with a

> lot

> > of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant, so I

> wanted

> > to give everyone an update on how I am doing.

> >

> > I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my breast

> > implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief from

is

> I

> > now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender

> breasts.

> > It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with

thinking

> it

> > was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so nice

to

> be

> > able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my

> chest. I

> > never really noticed this part until I had my implants out. It

is

> > nice being me again. )

> >

> > About 6 months after I got my implants I started having bouts

> where I

> > felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on. The

> last

> > year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel so

much

> > better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my

> implants

> > out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9

> months,

> > then you give birth and you feel better again.

> >

> > I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some days

> with

> > relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad again.

I

> get

> > burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will have

> days

> > where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches and

> pains

> > get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days

> without. I

> > also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I had

done

> > this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my problems.

I

> am

> > 30 years old with arthritis. (

> >

> > I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been rough,

> > especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me

hopping!!

> But

> > not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.

> >

> > Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really

made

> an

> > effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever

possible,

> but

> > have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating organic

has

> > also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more on

> buying

> > certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I also

> have

> > drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath,

> ginger, or

> > vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my

sauna.

> I

> > love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am excited

> about

> > the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how good

it

> > feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a couple

> of

> > soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I am

> usually

> > pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is hard

> though

> > to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in pain.

> >

> > The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough. Some

days

> are

> > better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post about

> > having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has been

> really

> > supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very self

> > consious at times and find myself covering myself up. Easter

> weekend

> > was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First of

> all

> > the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we

stayed

> at

> > a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along

> thinking

> > it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the top, so

> the

> > seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just crushed.

I

> > felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to get

> when I

> > walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when bathing,

> quickly

> > covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am changing,

I

> even

> > worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and

kept

> a

> > towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down

quite

> a

> > ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it

doesn't

> help

> > matters. It has just been recently that I have started to feel

> better

> > about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then others

> will

> > view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so she

> has

> > been really supportive. She has given me some good advice on

what

> to

> > wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim wear.

It

> > does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like now

> because

> > I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, " trust me

> looks

> > can be deceiving " -- ha ha!! My father who works at a college

> told me

> > about 2 woman who work with him that have had their breasts

> removed

> > due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few years

> back

> > in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman have

> such

> > an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest size.

I

> try

> > to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard though

as

> we

> > are an appearance driven society.

> >

> > Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your

posts

> and

> > sharing. It keeps me going!!!

> > Love and hugs, Marcy

> >

>

April 30, 2006

I am writing a paper on cosmetic surgery, with an emphasis on breast augmentation, and how the media (especially TV) advises consumers that happiness can be bought. I registered into this group Saline Support, and I am now receiving at least 20 emails per day and am having a hard time sorting through these emails. I want to get to the heart of these "explant anniversaries" etc. I have been reading some great responses about various women's explant experiences, but do you happen to know any statistics that the Saline Support group promotes or supports as credible? There are hundreds and hundreds of websites with different facts and figures. It is overwhelming. I even tried to email The American Society of Aesthetic Surgery and the American Society of Plastic Surgeons, but they have not responded. It could be that they possibly did not appreciate the question I posed to them. I

asked them why the numbers on both of their websites for the year 2003 Teens that received breast augmentations under the age of 18 were drastically different. The American Society of Aesthetic Surgery numbers state- 11,326 , while the American Society of Plastic Surgeons number state- 3,841.What could be the reason behind this dramatic difference? Thank you so much for your time! A overwhelmed, confused college student ~Jacquelyn Cherie <funhome2@...> wrote: Hi Marcy and SisI have to chime in, and tell you that I'm also having a not so good day. But I helped friends move twice this week, thinking I am all better and can do anything - ha! I think this chest pain will take some rest to heal, rather than

detox. My husband wants to treat me to a Blizzard at DQ right now, and I am so worried about going off my organic dairy free sugar free diet that I don't know if I can even enjoy it if I do. Such decisions!Marcy, I'm so glad you posted. I have arthritis too, I believe from immune dysfunction caused by implants. I am six months out too, and have seen A LOT of improvement - though very up and down for six months. Just recently, after a lot of detox efforts, I have been feeling wonderful. What kind of sauna did you get? I have been going to a local place to the IR sauna, which works for me, but I am wondering about what you purchased and how it works. Hang in there Marcy - you'll start to see improvement soon.Cherie> >> > Hi Ladies,> > > > I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been gone > again -- > > but I have been trying to keep up with all the

messages. I have > to > > tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing with a > lot > > of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant, so I > wanted > > to give everyone an update on how I am doing. > > > > I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my breast > > implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief from is > I > > now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender > breasts. > > It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with thinking > it > > was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so nice to > be > > able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my > chest. I > > never really noticed this part until I had my implants out. It is > >

nice being me again. )> > > > About 6 months after I got my implants I started having bouts > where I > > felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on. The > last > > year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel so much > > better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my > implants > > out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9 > months, > > then you give birth and you feel better again.> > > > I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some days > with > > relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad again. I > get > > burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will have > days > > where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches and > pains

> > get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days > without. I > > also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I had done > > this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my problems. I > am > > 30 years old with arthritis. (> > > > I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been rough, > > especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me hopping!! > But > > not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.> > > > Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really made > an > > effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever possible, > but > > have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating organic has > > also been hard on our budget, so I have been

focusing more on > buying > > certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I also > have > > drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath, > ginger, or > > vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my sauna. > I > > love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am excited > about > > the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how good it > > feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a couple > of > > soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I am > usually > > pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is hard > though > > to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in pain.> > > > The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough. Some

days > are > > better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post about > > having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has been > really > > supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very self > > consious at times and find myself covering myself up. Easter > weekend > > was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First of > all > > the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we stayed > at > > a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along > thinking > > it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the top, so > the > > seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just crushed. I > > felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to get > when I > >

walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when bathing, > quickly > > covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am changing, I > even > > worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and kept > a > > towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down quite > a > > ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it doesn't > help > > matters. It has just been recently that I have started to feel > better > > about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then others > will > > view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so she > has > > been really supportive. She has given me some good advice on what > to > > wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim wear. It > >

does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like now > because > > I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, "trust me > looks > > can be deceiving" -- ha ha!! My father who works at a college > told me > > about 2 woman who work with him that have had their breasts > removed > > due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few years > back > > in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman have > such > > an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest size. I > try > > to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard though as > we > > are an appearance driven society.> > > > Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your posts > and > > sharing. It keeps me

going!!! > > Love and hugs, Marcy> >>

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April 30, 2006

Marcy, usually my bad days are the cold and/or rainy days, but I was

surprised today when I felt poorly and it was beautiful out. Dr.

Feng didn't give me that list, maybe you can share it with me if

it's not too lengthy. I've seen others on this site whose joint

pain has eased up or gone away completely, so I'm hopeful.

Sometimes I get discouraged on the bad days.

Sis

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Ladies,

> > > > >

> > > > > I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been

> gone

> > > > again --

> > > > > but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages.

I

> > have

> > > > to

> > > > > tell you all how much it means to know others are dealing

> with

> > a

> > > > lot

> > > > > of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant,

> so

> > I

> > > > wanted

> > > > > to give everyone an update on how I am doing.

> > > > >

> > > > > I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my

> breast

> > > > > implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief

> from

> > > is

> > > > I

> > > > > now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with

tender

> > > > breasts.

> > > > > It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with

> > > thinking

> > > > it

> > > > > was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so

> > nice

> > > to

> > > > be

> > > > > able to move without having that extra weight and pain in

my

> > > > chest. I

> > > > > never really noticed this part until I had my implants

out.

> > It

> > > is

> > > > > nice being me again. )

> > > > >

> > > > > About 6 months after I got my implants I started having

> bouts

> > > > where I

> > > > > felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on.

> The

> > > > last

> > > > > year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now feel

> so

> > > much

> > > > > better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my

> > > > implants

> > > > > out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for

9

> > > > months,

> > > > > then you give birth and you feel better again.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some

> days

> > > > with

> > > > > relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad

> > again.

> > > I

> > > > get

> > > > > burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will

> have

> > > > days

> > > > > where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches

> and

> > > > pains

> > > > > get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days

> > > > without. I

> > > > > also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I

> had

> > > done

> > > > > this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my

> > problems.

> > > I

> > > > am

> > > > > 30 years old with arthritis. (

> > > > >

> > > > > I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been

> > rough,

> > > > > especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me

> > > hopping!!

> > > > But

> > > > > not having that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have

really

> > > made

> > > > an

> > > > > effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever

> > > possible,

> > > > but

> > > > > have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating

> organic

> > > has

> > > > > also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more

> on

> > > > buying

> > > > > certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I

> also

> > > > have

> > > > > drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom

bath,

> > > > ginger, or

> > > > > vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my

> > > sauna.

> > > > I

> > > > > love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am

> > excited

> > > > about

> > > > > the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how

> good

> > > it

> > > > > feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a

> > couple

> > > > of

> > > > > soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I

> am

> > > > usually

> > > > > pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is

> hard

> > > > though

> > > > > to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in

> > pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough.

> Some

> > > days

> > > > are

> > > > > better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post

> > about

> > > > > having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has

> been

> > > > really

> > > > > supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very

> > self

> > > > > consious at times and find myself covering myself up.

> Easter

> > > > weekend

> > > > > was especially hard for me. We went to visit family.

First

> > of

> > > > all

> > > > > the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then

we

> > > stayed

> > > > at

> > > > > a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit

along

> > > > thinking

> > > > > it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the

> top,

> > so

> > > > the

> > > > > seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just

> > crushed.

> > > I

> > > > > felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used

to

> > get

> > > > when I

> > > > > walked into a pool area. I have locked the door when

> bathing,

> > > > quickly

> > > > > covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am

> > changing,

> > > I

> > > > even

> > > > > worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna

and

> > > kept

> > > > a

> > > > > towel around me. I also have very large scars that go

down

> > > quite

> > > > a

> > > > > ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it

> > > doesn't

> > > > help

> > > > > matters. It has just been recently that I have started to

> > feel

> > > > better

> > > > > about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then

> > others

> > > > will

> > > > > view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A,

so

> > she

> > > > has

> > > > > been really supportive. She has given me some good advice

> on

> > > what

> > > > to

> > > > > wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim

> > wear.

> > > It

> > > > > does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like

> now

> > > > because

> > > > > I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to

say, " trust

> > me

> > > > looks

> > > > > can be deceiving " -- ha ha!! My father who works at a

> college

> > > > told me

> > > > > about 2 woman who work with him that have had their

breasts

> > > > removed

> > > > > due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few

> > years

> > > > back

> > > > > in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman

> > have

> > > > such

> > > > > an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest

> > size.

> > > I

> > > > try

> > > > > to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard

> > though

> > > as

> > > > we

> > > > > are an appearance driven society.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for

your

> > > posts

> > > > and

> > > > > sharing. It keeps me going!!!

> > > > > Love and hugs, Marcy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 30, 2006

Sherry, it's amazing, because that's where my joint swelling is at

it's worst, in my thumbs. Although, this past winter it seemed all

my joints were swelling, but the thumbs are the worst.

Sis

> >

> > Hi Marcy,

> >

> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are

> > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I

> took

> > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must

> be

> > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the

> > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts

> > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I

> already

> > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at

> this

> > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got

a

> > ways to go.

> >

> > Sis

>

April 30, 2006

1 in 4 women after the age of 40..... in the thumbs... most common place!

Re: 2 months post explant

Sherry, it's amazing, because that's where my joint swelling is at it's worst, in my thumbs. Although, this past winter it seemed all my joints were swelling, but the thumbs are the worst.Sis> >> > Hi Marcy,> >> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are> > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I> took> > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must> be> > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the> > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts> > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I> already> > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at> this> > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a> > ways to go.> >> > Sis>

May 1, 2006

Swelling is one thing . . . being unable to use ones

thumbs is another! . . . That doesn't happen often!

--- _00_ <5678@...> wrote:

> 1 in 4 women after the age of 40..... in the

> thumbs... most common place!

> Re: 2 months post explant

>

> Sherry, it's amazing, because that's where my

> joint swelling is at

> it's worst, in my thumbs. Although, this past

> winter it seemed all

> my joints were swelling, but the thumbs are the

> worst.

>

> Sis

>

> > >

> > > Hi Marcy,

> > >

> > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so

> right, some days are

> > > better than others. Today is one of those not

> so good days. I

> > took

> > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and

> unfortunately I must

> > be

> > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For

> the most part, the

> > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess

> if the Epsom Salts

> > > caused a herx then there's still more healing

> left to do. I

> > already

> > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more

> hills than valleys at

> > this

> > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant,

> so I know I've got

> a

> > > ways to go.

> > >

> > > Sis

> >

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed health care

> professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any

> medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts

> are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

May 2, 2006

Actually, it does. It happens very often.

The thumb basal joint when affected by osteoarthritis will be affected during any grasping and pinching motion. When progressed to a severe stage, there are several surgical correction procedures to either fure the two bones that comprise the joint (resulting in stiffening and motion loss) or to implant a tendon from the partient or, else, a synthetic rubber piece.

Sherry

Re: 2 months post explant> > > Sherry, it's amazing, because that's where my> joint swelling is at > it's worst, in my thumbs. Although, this past> winter it seemed all > my joints were swelling, but the thumbs are the> worst.> > Sis> > > > >> > > Hi Marcy,> > >> > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so> right, some days are> > > better than others. Today is one of those not> so good days. I> > took> > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and> unfortunately I must> > be> > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For> the most part, the> > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess> if the Epsom Salts> > > caused a herx then there's still more healing> left to do. I> > already> > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more> hills than valleys at> > this> > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant,> so I know I've got > a> > > ways to go.> > >> > > Sis

May 2, 2006

Hi Marcy,

I've had company the much of the past week, so I'm

behind on messages . . .

However, I'm delighted to know you're making such

great strides in recovering! . . . And you're right,

the infrared sauna will help you immensely! The

infrared light penetrates tissue deeply helping the

body activate its own healing powers!

You'll have up and down days for some time . . . but

keep the goal in mind! It's well worth the effort!

I know your family is thrilled to see you getting your

life back! . .

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

May 2, 2006

---Thumbs?? Really - that's interesting. My thumbs are the worst

thing on my body right now! It's sure reassuring to read about

different symptoms that I have. It's validating. Sorry you're in so

much pain. I've been taking Dong Quai and Calcium/Magnesium with

some pain relief results - also Arnica - a homeopathic remedy. It

helps with stress as well.

Take good care of yourself,

Love, Sunny xo

In , _00_ <5678@...> wrote:

>

> I would like to know about the osteoarthritis, as well. I have two

thumbs

> that are useless. I open my shampooh in the shower by squeezing the

bottle

> with my elbows. I've had my thumbs injected with steroids by my

orthopod,

> wtice, without relief. Prior to making any connection with this

symptom to

> my implants, I'd planned to have reconstructive surgery on my

thumbs. I will

> consider, instead, waiting until after my explantation to see

whether I have

> improvement. I doubt that, though, as there are surely structural

changes in

> the joint and that should not repair.

> Sherry

>

> * Re: 2 months post explant

>

> Sis,

> I too am having a not so good day. I am thinking it is do to the

> change in weather. It is rainy and cold here. My hips and ankles

> hurt so bad today. I just turned on my sauna and hope my kids

> cooperate, so I can sit in it for a bit.

> Did Dr Feng give you any advice as far as how to help aid your body

> in healing? She did give me a printout with a list of foods that

> are good antioxidents and foods that contain more chemicals. She

> told me that it takes about a year. I am hopeful, but wonder about

> my arthritis. Isn't that something that once you have it you always

> have it?

> Hugs, Marcy

>

> >

> > Hi Marcy,

> >

> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are

> > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I

> took

> > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must

> be

> > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the

> > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts

> > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I

> already

> > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at

> this

> > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a

> > ways to go.

> >

> > Sis

>

May 3, 2006

Osteoarthritis in the thumb joint (= basal joint arthritis) the most common form and affects 1 in 4 women after the age of 40, unrelated to implantation.

Sherry

* Re: 2 months post explant> > > Sis,> I too am having a not so good day. I am thinking it is do to the> change in weather. It is rainy and cold here. My hips and ankles> hurt so bad today. I just turned on my sauna and hope my kids> cooperate, so I can sit in it for a bit.> Did Dr Feng give you any advice as far as how to help aid your body> in healing? She did give me a printout with a list of foods that> are good antioxidents and foods that contain more chemicals. She> told me that it takes about a year. I am hopeful, but wonder about> my arthritis. Isn't that something that once you have it you always> have it?> Hugs, Marcy> > >> > Hi Marcy,> >> > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are> > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I> took> > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must> be> > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the> > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts> > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I> already> > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at> this> > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a> > ways to go.> >> > Sis>

May 3, 2006

It's great to hear from you Marcy! Thanks for the update. I know how hard these issues are to deal with, especially the emotional ones, but healing will come. It is so nice that you have examples of strong women to get through those difficult days. It does really just come down to having a strong positive outlook, and being thankful for what we DO HAVE, and not focusing on the negatives or mourning what we've lost. Mourning the past is like pedaling backward....keep positive and look to the future with great expectations of what God can do in your life! He won't disappoint you! Pattymkkinzy1 <mkkinzy@...> wrote: Hi Ladies,I haven't been posting much lately, as my hubby has been gone again -- but I have been trying to keep up with all the messages. I have to tell you all

how much it means to know others are dealing with a lot of my same issues. Tomorrow I am two months post explant, so I wanted to give everyone an update on how I am doing. I can honestly say that I am REALLY thankful to have my breast implants gone. One of the first things I have had relief from is I now wake up every day and no longer have to deal with tender breasts. It was one of those lovely side effects that I dealt with thinking it was all part of a day with perfect breasts. It is also so nice to be able to move without having that extra weight and pain in my chest. I never really noticed this part until I had my implants out. It is nice being me again. )About 6 months after I got my implants I started having bouts where I felt like I had the flu. This got worse as time went on. The last year with implants I felt like I was in a fog. I now

feel so much better and haven't had one flu-like episode since I got my implants out. I kind of relate it to pregnancy. You feel sick for 9 months, then you give birth and you feel better again.I am still battling with joint problems. I have had some days with relief which gives me hope, but then things will get bad again. I get burning sensations, especially in my ankles. I also will have days where I am REALLY stiff. Everything cracks and the aches and pains get worse. I am hopeful though that I have had some days without. I also had arthritis show up everywhere on my x-rays that I had done this past year, so I suppose that explains some of my problems. I am 30 years old with arthritis. (I also am really battling with the fatigue. It has been rough, especially when my husband is gone. My 3 kids keep me hopping!! But not having

that constant flu feeling has REALLY helped.Here is what I have been doing since explant. I have really made an effort to eat healthier. I try to eat organic whenever possible, but have found that it isn't always as convenient. Eating organic has also been hard on our budget, so I have been focusing more on buying certain foods. I am taking Primal Defense -- 2 a day. I also have drank the vinegar a few times. I was doing the epsom bath, ginger, or vinegar soaks daily up until a few weeks ago when I got my sauna. I love it and have used it every day since I got it. I am excited about the benefits from using a sauna and have also noticed how good it feels when my joints are flaring up. I still try to do a couple of soaks a week. I have also started to do brisk walking. I am usually pushing kids, so I feel like I get a good workout. It is hard though

to muster up the energy some days when I am fatigued or in pain.The emotional part of this whole ordeal has been tough. Some days are better than others. I totally feel for the ones that post about having a hard time with their appearance. My husband has been really supportive, so that has been huge for me. I too feel very self consious at times and find myself covering myself up. Easter weekend was especially hard for me. We went to visit family. First of all the trip/drive (several hours) took a lot out of me then we stayed at a hotel with a pool. I brought my one piece swimsuit along thinking it would work. WRONG!! It actually flipped over on the top, so the seam was hanging out. It was horrible and I felt just crushed. I felt sooo unattractive and I missed the attention I used to get when I walked into a pool area. I have locked the door

when bathing, quickly covered up if I heard my husband coming in while I am changing, I even worried about his walking in while I was using the sauna and kept a towel around me. I also have very large scars that go down quite a ways under my breasts. I don't scar pretty either, so it doesn't help matters. It has just been recently that I have started to feel better about my self image. I feel like if I am confident then others will view me that way. I have a good friend who is a size A, so she has been really supportive. She has given me some good advice on what to wear that is flattering when flat. Like halter top swim wear. It does wonders. It is funny how people assume things -- like now because I am small they assume I am athletic. I want to say, "trust me looks can be deceiving" -- ha ha!! My father who works at a college told me about 2 woman who work with

him that have had their breasts removed due to cancer. I remember meeting one of the woman a few years back in passing. She has battled cancer twice now. Both woman have such an awesome outlook and could care less about their chest size. I try to find strength from individuals like this. It is hard though as we are an appearance driven society.Thank you for reading my post. Also thank you all for your posts and sharing. It keeps me going!!! Love and hugs, Marcy

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May 3, 2006

Well, all I can say is that I had no joint swelling and my thumbs

were fine, and then I got implants and mysteriously within a month

my thumbs started swelling up, along with many other joints.

Sis

> > >

> > > Hi Marcy,

> > >

> > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days

are

> > > better than others. Today is one of those not so good

days. I

> > took

> > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I

must

> > be

> > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part,

the

> > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom

Salts

> > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I

> > already

> > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys

at

> > this

> > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've

got a

> > > ways to go.

> > >

> > > Sis

> >

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

May 3, 2006

I believe you completely. Unfortunately, physicians are trained scientists and they are trained to trust facts as they fit The Scientific Method. Since it's not possible at this juncture to conclusively connect that symptom with your implants and to conclusively eliminate coincidence, that, alone, isn't meaningful.

How,ever, if the symptoms subsided following explant, THAT lends more credence.

Hugs,

Sherry

Re: 2 months post explant

Well, all I can say is that I had no joint swelling and my thumbs were fine, and then I got implants and mysteriously within a month my thumbs started swelling up, along with many other joints.Sis> > >> > > Hi Marcy,> > >> > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days are> > > better than others. Today is one of those not so good days. I> > took> > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I must> > be> > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, the> > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom Salts> > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I> > already> > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys at> > this> > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've got a> > > ways to go.> > >> > > Sis

May 3, 2006

That's probably why I lost my trust in most physicians after getting

ill right after getting implants.

Sis

> > > >

> > > > Hi Marcy,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some

days

> are

> > > > better than others. Today is one of those not so good

> days. I

> > > took

> > > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and

unfortunately I

> must

> > > be

> > > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most

part,

> the

> > > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the

Epsom

> Salts

> > > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to

do. I

> > > already

> > > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than

valleys

> at

> > > this

> > > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know

I've

> got a

> > > > ways to go.

> > > >

> > > > Sis

>

May 3, 2006

If The Scientific Method were always scientific, then it would be more credible

in these

instances. I am a trained scientist, and I don't think much of the studies that

have been

done on implants. If you have looked at the history it is amazing. As soon as

a study is

done that shows there might be a problem, the IRG or some other Dow funded

organization does a study to contradict it. The study methadology is suspect.

Unfortunately because of the political environment, we are left in the dark to

see what

works. I can tell you that removing my implants worked. My health problems

have

subsided. I was diagnosed with SLE, MS and autoimmune thyroid disease. I still

take

thyroid medication, but my blood tests that had been very abnormal for 5 years

are now

normal.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Marcy,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days

> are

> > > > better than others. Today is one of those not so good

> days. I

> > > took

> > > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I

> must

> > > be

> > > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part,

> the

> > > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom

> Salts

> > > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I

> > > already

> > > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys

> at

> > > this

> > > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've

> got a

> > > > ways to go.

> > > >

> > > > Sis

>

May 3, 2006

There are also peer-reviewed studies that show women's health improved after

explant.

This was particularly true with women who had ruptured implants.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Marcy,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days

> are

> > > > better than others. Today is one of those not so good

> days. I

> > > took

> > > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I

> must

> > > be

> > > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part,

> the

> > > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom

> Salts

> > > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I

> > > already

> > > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys

> at

> > > this

> > > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've

> got a

> > > > ways to go.

> > > >

> > > > Sis

>

May 3, 2006

I agree that there were insufficient studies.....regrettably, this is more of a governmental issue as surgeons (in particular) are NOT taught to think but are taught to repeat, repeat, repeat a zillion times and. as such, just have not historically questioned much at all. PHYSICIAN DO NO HARM in this country is left largely to the government.

Please know that you are preaching to the choir. I am already a believer and don't need convincing. I am merely pointing out the importance of understating rather than overstating in our presentations in order to defuse the concerns that these claims are histrionic.......

Sherry

Fw: Re: 2 months post explant

If The Scientific Method were always scientific, then it would be more credible in these instances. I am a trained scientist, and I don't think much of the studies that have been done on implants. If you have looked at the history it is amazing. As soon as a study is done that shows there might be a problem, the IRG or some other Dow funded organization does a study to contradict it. The study methadology is suspect.Unfortunately because of the political environment, we are left in the dark to see what works. I can tell you that removing my implants worked. My health problems have subsided. I was diagnosed with SLE, MS and autoimmune thyroid disease. I still take thyroid medication, but my blood tests that had been very abnormal for 5 years are now normal.> > > >> > > > Hi Marcy,> > > >> > > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days > are> > > > better than others. Today is one of those not so good > days. I> > > took> > > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I > must> > > be> > > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, > the> > > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom > Salts> > > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I> > > already> > > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys > at> > > this> > > > point. I'm only about 6 months post explant, so I know I've > got a> > > > ways to go.> > > >> > > > Sis>

May 3, 2006

I've known other professionals who suggest that we understate rather than overstate as well, so that we look "credible." I think on a support group it's a different story. We come here to share what we are going through and to get help with these symptoms through shared experiences and suffering, girlfriend to girlfriend. I don't think we need to get all twisted about our discussions and if they fall into proper patterns for presentation. It's just about chatting about what we're dealing with and what we are doing to get better. It becomes quite evident when clusters of women are dealing with the same issues. The far reaching effects of implant disease remain unknown. Who is to say what implants are or are not doing to the human body? All we can do is compare notes. It becomes pretty evident when completely healthy women start showing the same types of

symptoms after getting implants. If I've learned anything at all in this breast implant issue, it's that things aren't always what they seem....so it's okay to think outside the box. In fact, it's necessary. Patty_00_ <5678@...> wrote: I agree that there were insufficient studies.....regrettably, this is more of a governmental issue as surgeons (in particular) are NOT taught to think but are taught to repeat, repeat, repeat a zillion times and. as such, just have not historically questioned much at all. PHYSICIAN DO NO HARM in this country is left largely to the government. Please know that you are preaching to the choir. I am already a believer and don't need convincing. I am merely pointing out the importance of understating rather than overstating in our presentations in order to defuse the concerns that these claims are histrionic....... Sherry Fw: Re: 2 months post explant If The Scientific Method were always scientific, then it would be more credible in these instances. I am a trained scientist, and I don't think much of the studies that have been done on implants. If you have looked at the history it is amazing. As soon as a study is done that shows there might be a problem, the IRG or some other Dow funded organization does a study to contradict it. The study methadology is suspect.Unfortunately because of the political environment, we are left in the dark to see what works. I can tell you that removing my implants worked. My health problems have subsided. I was diagnosed with SLE, MS and autoimmune thyroid disease. I still take thyroid medication, but my blood tests that had been very abnormal for 5 years are now

normal.> > > >> > > > Hi Marcy,> > > >> > > > Yes, I explanted with Dr. Feng. You're so right, some days > are> > > > better than others.

Today is one of those not so good > days. I> > > took> > > > a long bath this morning in Epsom Salts, and unfortunately I > must> > > be> > > > herxing because I don't feel that great. For the most part, > the> > > > past month has been pretty good, but I guess if the Epsom > Salts> > > > caused a herx then there's still more healing left to do. I> > > already> > > > knew that, but I was hoping I'd have more hills than valleys > at> > > this> > > > point. I'm only about 6

months post explant, so I know I've > got a> > > > ways to go.> > > >> > > > Sis

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