Re: New Member-1 more question?

[Guest guest]

I buy it online. Go to www.vitalchoice.com. If your order is over a

$100 you get free shipping. I always order both the cans (the best

deal is the larger cans and buy 24 at a time) and the king salmon

filets. We love both products. You can also buy them from

Dr.Mercola's website but I buy direct.

Hugs, kathy

> > > > Hi Molly and Kenda . . .

> > > >

> > > > I've been at pottery class all day . . .and

> > > > demonstrating/teaching wheel throwing to kids over the

> > > > weekend. . .

> > > >

> > > > Sugar is a demon! . . . But you can beat it!

> > > > Eventually you'll be able to enjoy sweets occasionally

> > > > guilt free. The key word is " occasionally " . I recent

> > > > had a flare after having two small deserts a day for

> > > > five days!

> > > >

> > > > Fruits are out for the time being. After you quit

> > > > having sugar cravings, occasional fruit is ok. . .

> > > > There have to be some fruits that are not high in

> > > > sugar, but I can't think anything except grapefruit

> > > > and lemon right now.

> > > >

> > > > I'd hazard a guess that you'll be able to control your

> > > > diabetes by diet alone before long . . . so keep track

> > > > of your sugar level carefully. With diabetes, you've

> > > > got every reason to get your diet in order!

> > > >

> > > > Hugs and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thank you! I am going to try these!

> > > > > Hi Molly and Kenda . . .

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been at pottery class all day . . .and

> > > > > demonstrating/teaching wheel throwing to kids over the

> > > > > weekend. . .

> > > > >

> > > > > Sugar is a demon! . . . But you can beat it!

> > > > > Eventually you'll be able to enjoy sweets occasionally

> > > > > guilt free. The key word is " occasionally " . I recent

> > > > > had a flare after having two small deserts a day for

> > > > > five days!

> > > > >

> > > > > Fruits are out for the time being. After you quit

> > > > > having sugar cravings, occasional fruit is ok. . .

> > > > > There have to be some fruits that are not high in

> > > > > sugar, but I can't think anything except grapefruit

> > > > > and lemon right now.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'd hazard a guess that you'll be able to control your

> > > > > diabetes by diet alone before long . . . so keep track

> > > > > of your sugar level carefully. With diabetes, you've

> > > > > got every reason to get your diet in order!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs and prayers,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rogene

[Guest guest]

I buy the salmon filets and halibut. Both are really good. I ordered a

different type of salmon this week, can't remember what it is.

Kenda

>

> I buy it online. Go to www.vitalchoice.com. If your order is over a

> $100 you get free shipping. I always order both the cans (the best

> deal is the larger cans and buy 24 at a time) and the king salmon

> filets. We love both products. You can also buy them from

> Dr.Mercola's website but I buy direct.

> Hugs, kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>>>> Hi Molly and Kenda . . .

>>>>>

>>>>> I've been at pottery class all day . . .and

>>>>> demonstrating/teaching wheel throwing to kids over the

>>>>> weekend. . .

>>>>>

>>>>> Sugar is a demon! . . . But you can beat it!

>>>>> Eventually you'll be able to enjoy sweets occasionally

>>>>> guilt free. The key word is " occasionally " . I recent

>>>>> had a flare after having two small deserts a day for

>>>>> five days!

>>>>>

>>>>> Fruits are out for the time being. After you quit

>>>>> having sugar cravings, occasional fruit is ok. . .

>>>>> There have to be some fruits that are not high in

>>>>> sugar, but I can't think anything except grapefruit

>>>>> and lemon right now.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'd hazard a guess that you'll be able to control your

>>>>> diabetes by diet alone before long . . . so keep track

>>>>> of your sugar level carefully. With diabetes, you've

>>>>> got every reason to get your diet in order!

>>>>>

>>>>> Hugs and prayers,

>>>>>

>>>>> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's the kind of group I had intended when I started it back in

2000...because I knew that women like us needed to find a safe

haven. The pro-implant sites can be so cruel, and they can make us

feel like freaks for even questioning the safety of implants.

But we know the truth now...that implants do make women ill, and our

suffering is very great and very real. And there are answers out

there. We just need to walk in the direction of healing, and that

means getting back to where we were before, without implants, and

finding answers through sharing. I am glad you found us and are

getting the support that you need!

Hugs,

Patty

> > > > > Well, I'm in a predicament because me and my husband

> got

> > into

> > > an

> > > > argument

> > > > > a few weeks ago, and it was over my looking into

> > explants. He

> > > > didn't

> > > > > speak to me for a week and during that time I was

> feeling

> > at my

> > > > absolute

> > > > > worst physically and decided on surgery w/ Dr. Feng

and

> > booked

> > > > it. Now

> > > > > I'm trying to figure out how to tell him without

> another

> > > blowout.

> > > > It is

> > > > > my body, but he's saying what if I have the surgery

and

> > that's

> > > not

> > > > what

> > > > > the problem was, and I'm still sick. If I cancel w/

> Dr.

> > Feng

> > > now

> > > > I'll

> > > > > lose my deposit - plus I know it'll be December

before

> I

> > can

> > > get

> > > > in to

> > > > > see her again.

> > > > >

> > > > > New Member-1 more

question?

> > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:01:00 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > > Can anyone tell me whether or not they think I will

> have

> > > breast

> > > > > deformation after removal of the implant? I keep

> hearing

> > > > different

> > > > > things including that if the implant is above the

> muscle

> > that

> > > > > deformity will for sure happen.My implants are

above

> the

> > > muscle

> > > > and I

> > > > > was a C before and went to a D. I have only had 1

> > surgery and

> > > I

> > > > have

> > > > > had them since Dec. 1998. I am also only 29 years

> old. I

> > keep

> > > > seeing

> > > > > pictures on websites that is scaring me. I have

made

> my

> > appt.

> > > > with

> > > > > Dr.

> > > > > Feng but can't get in until the middle of November

> > because

> > > she

> > > > is so

> > > > > booked. I guess I am freaking myself out...any help

> > would be

> > > > greatly

> > > > > appreciated. Thanks! Jenna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

of

> > advice

> > > > given by

> > > > > licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > physician or

> > > > > licensed health care professional before commencing

> any

> > > medical

> > > > > treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians

> > > > mislead

> > > > > you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > decisions

> > > > about

> > > > > how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better

> > world. "

> > > -

> > > > Linus

> > > > > ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry;

> > 1963,

> > > > Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow as you go through explant. You are

doing the right thing!

Patty

> It's horrible that this is allowed to go on, but it's a multi-

billion

> dollar industry, and who's going to mess with that? When I was

looking

> at the pro-implant sites, I was stunned to see people totally

excited

> that Silicone was on it's way back. Whenever you mention the word

> " Saline " to people, the first thing that comes out of their mouth

is that

> " they're safe " (unless of course they've had them and have gotten

sick

> from them). I'm really thankful that I was able to get in with

Dr. Feng

> when I did (Oct 5), because my thumbs are starting to get really

sore now

> and my neck hurts. For a few days I felt really good and was

having

> doubts, but at this point I'm thinking " do I need the entire house

to

> fall down on me before I do something about this? " Hubby can be

pissed

> if he wants, but I have to take charge of this for the sake of my

body.

[Guest guest]

Hi Darlene,

It would not out of the realm of possibility that you could " cure "

your diabetes as your health improves. Even though there are those

that say diabetes is incurable, I have heard of too many people who

did cure theirs to believe that it can't happen.

Although we don't have alot of women who have ended up with this

diagnosis after implants, I do remember hearing of a few women who

struggled with blood sugar issues as a part of their illness. Our

bodies are just affected in various ways, different ways for

differenet women, and in some, the weak organs are those involved in

blood sugar levels.

Just remember to be patient and stay hopeful! You may see some

improvements in the future that surprise you if you are diligent!

Patty

> > > >>>>>>> Well, I'm in a predicament because me and my husband

> > > >>> got

> > > >>>> into

> > > >>>>> an

> > > >>>>>> argument

> > > >>>>>>> a few weeks ago, and it was over my looking into

> > > >>>> explants. He

> > > >>>>>> didn't

> > > >>>>>>> speak to me for a week and during that time I was

> > > >>> feeling

> > > >>>> at my

> > > >>>>>> absolute

> > > >>>>>>> worst physically and decided on surgery w/ Dr. Feng

> > > >> and

> > > >>>> booked

> > > >>>>>> it. Now

> > > >>>>>>> I'm trying to figure out how to tell him without

> > > >>> another

> > > >>>>> blowout.

> > > >>>>>> It is

> > > >>>>>>> my body, but he's saying what if I have the surgery

> > > >> and

> > > >>>> that's

> > > >>>>> not

> > > >>>>>> what

> > > >>>>>>> the problem was, and I'm still sick. If I cancel w/

> > > >>> Dr.

> > > >>>> Feng

> > > >>>>> now

> > > >>>>>> I'll

> > > >>>>>>> lose my deposit - plus I know it'll be December

> > > >> before

> > > >>> I

> > > >>>> can

> > > >>>>> get

> > > >>>>>> in to

> > > >>>>>>> see her again.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> New Member-1 more

> > > >> question?

> > > >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:01:00 -0000

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Can anyone tell me whether or not they think I will

> > > >>> have

> > > >>>>> breast

> > > >>>>>>> deformation after removal of the implant? I keep

> > > >>> hearing

> > > >>>>>> different

> > > >>>>>>> things including that if the implant is above the

> > > >>> muscle

> > > >>>> that

> > > >>>>>>> deformity will for sure happen.My implants are

> > > >> above

> > > >>> the

> > > >>>>> muscle

> > > >>>>>> and I

> > > >>>>>>> was a C before and went to a D. I have only had 1

> > > >>>> surgery and

> > > >>>>> I

> > > >>>>>> have

> > > >>>>>>> had them since Dec. 1998. I am also only 29 years

> > > >>> old. I

> > > >>>> keep

> > > >>>>>> seeing

> > > >>>>>>> pictures on websites that is scaring me. I have

> > > >> made

> > > >>> my

> > > >>>> appt.

> > > >>>>>> with

> > > >>>>>>> Dr.

> > > >>>>>>> Feng but can't get in until the middle of November

> > > >>>> because

> > > >>>>> she

> > > >>>>>> is so

> > > >>>>>>> booked. I guess I am freaking myself out...any help

> > > >>>> would be

> > > >>>>>> greatly

> > > >>>>>>> appreciated. Thanks! Jenna

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > > >> of

> > > >>>> advice

> > > >>>>>> given by

> > > >>>>>>> licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > > >>>> physician or

> > > >>>>>>> licensed health care professional before commencing

> > > >>> any

> > > >>>>> medical

> > > >>>>>>> treatment.

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > > >>>> politicians

> > > >>>>>> mislead

> > > >>>>>>> you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > >>>> decisions

> > > >>>>>> about

> > > >>>>>>> how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > > >> better

> > > >>>> world. "

> > > >>>>> -

> > > >>>>>> Linus

> > > >>>>>>> ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> > > >>> Chemistry;

> > > >>>> 1963,

> > > >>>>>> Peace)

> > > >>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations Molly! I know how hard it is...

One of the secrets that works for me is to remember first of all,

that just because I can't have it right now, that doesn't mean I

can't ever have " it " again in the future, whatever the food item

happens to be that is tempting me. There's always another day. Just

not today.

And second of all, I try to capture and dwell on the feeling I will

most likely have AFTER eating something I shouldn't. I will be mad

at myself, feel like a pig, want to throw up, etc, etc etc. If I

remember how yucky that makes me feel, the food item in question

will start to look evil and nasty, an enemy that I must have victory

over!

Keep it up! You will be so proud of yourself!

Patty

--- In , " MollyBloom54 " <mollyb54@b...>

wrote:

> Today is Day 2 for no sugar! It is very rainy - a tropical

depression over the Bahamas is

> giving us clouds and rain. I have been sleeping a lot - very

tired. It is noon and I just

> woke up. I sleep fitfully at night, waking up many times... so

maybe my body just needs

> it. I am going to stretch soon..

>

> Going to make a spinach salad. And have tuna...

>

> You don't have to convince me that sugar is a demon! The trick

for me was getting to a

> point where I could stop it. I think I am there.

>

> --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> > Hi Molly and Kenda . . .

> >

> > I've been at pottery class all day . . .and

> > demonstrating/teaching wheel throwing to kids over the

> > weekend. . .

> >

> > Sugar is a demon! . . . But you can beat it!

> > Eventually you'll be able to enjoy sweets occasionally

> > guilt free. The key word is " occasionally " . I recent

> > had a flare after having two small deserts a day for

> > five days!

> >

> > Fruits are out for the time being. After you quit

> > having sugar cravings, occasional fruit is ok. . .

> > There have to be some fruits that are not high in

> > sugar, but I can't think anything except grapefruit

> > and lemon right now.

> >

> > I'd hazard a guess that you'll be able to control your

> > diabetes by diet alone before long . . . so keep track

> > of your sugar level carefully. With diabetes, you've

> > got every reason to get your diet in order!

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

[Guest guest]

Molly . . . your " ice cream anonymous " reminds me of

an implant woman I met years ago . . . Her weight was

a little above normal. She wanted by-pass surgery so

she didn't have to work so hard on weight control . .

..

She actually sewed metal washers into her clothes so

she would weight enough to qualify for the surgery! .

.. . AFter the surgery, she found out that she was in

an entirely new world diet-wise. . . She didn't like

it!

She found she could beat it by eating icecream! . . .

and managed to maintain her weight pre-bypass!

Unfortunate, isn't it?

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

That sounds horrible! I will NOT have surgery for that... I will lose weight!

> Molly . . . your " ice cream anonymous " reminds me of

> an implant woman I met years ago . . . Her weight was

> a little above normal. She wanted by-pass surgery so

> she didn't have to work so hard on weight control . .

> .

>

> She actually sewed metal washers into her clothes so

> she would weight enough to qualify for the surgery! .

> . . AFter the surgery, she found out that she was in

> an entirely new world diet-wise. . . She didn't like

> it!

>

> She found she could beat it by eating icecream! . . .

> and managed to maintain her weight pre-bypass!

>

> Unfortunate, isn't it?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

[Guest guest]

And your commitment will get you there!

Kenda

> That sounds horrible! I will NOT have surgery for that... I will lose

> weight!

>

>

>

>> Molly . . . your " ice cream anonymous " reminds me of

>> an implant woman I met years ago . . . Her weight was

>> a little above normal. She wanted by-pass surgery so

>> she didn't have to work so hard on weight control . .

>> .

>>

>> She actually sewed metal washers into her clothes so

>> she would weight enough to qualify for the surgery! .

>> . . AFter the surgery, she found out that she was in

>> an entirely new world diet-wise. . . She didn't like

>> it!

>>

>> She found she could beat it by eating icecream! . . .

>> and managed to maintain her weight pre-bypass!

>>

>> Unfortunate, isn't it?

>>

>> Hugs,

>>

>> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

The sad thing is that she is now a fat skinny person. Ice cream will keep

her weight up but not in a healthful way. I guess the old saying that you

can never be too thin isn't true after all!

Kenda

> Molly . . . your " ice cream anonymous " reminds me of

> an implant woman I met years ago . . . Her weight was

> a little above normal. She wanted by-pass surgery so

> she didn't have to work so hard on weight control . .

> .

>

> She actually sewed metal washers into her clothes so

> she would weight enough to qualify for the surgery! .

> . . AFter the surgery, she found out that she was in

> an entirely new world diet-wise. . . She didn't like

> it!

>

> She found she could beat it by eating icecream! . . .

> and managed to maintain her weight pre-bypass!

>

> Unfortunate, isn't it?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>