Re: (unknown)

September 14, 2009

Thx Jan

I try to not let it occupy our lives but it is there, every day, reminding us of

our limitations.

My husband is currently on a 12 hr home infusion of deferoxamine(remove excess

iron) which I have to administer every other day. This is his sixth treatment

and every day we encounter new issues, an infection on one of the injection

sites. confusion, vision problems,vomiting, sleeps constanly, can't eat (tho his

stomach is growling) etc, etc....One day he took medication and didn't know what

he took, he came into the room with white powder residue on his mouth, I had to

induce vomiting. I am awaiting a call back from Dr's office,we are not going to

continue on ths course of treatment, he is worst instead of better. When he

doesn't take the treatment he is back to normal eating, coherent, playing with

dog, normal BP etc..

He flooded bathroom yesterday, as he didn't know how to turn off faucet. Trying

times, the mind is scrambled, unable to turn off this madness.

Phyllis

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:40:31 AM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Phylllis - I know you asked the question of Diane, but I feel much the same

way. Of course, I never forget that I have it, but it isn't the topmost

thing on my mind. Some of the side effects are on my mind every day, the

lack of energy, having to ration it to do what I want to do including

reading all these emails and the emails from other sources. But, I think

it is the acceptance of my medical problems, finding new ways of doing

things that don't require so much energy, spacing activities, staying as

active as possible. And my faith makes it so much easier to not become

cirrhosis, cad, pad, kidney disease, peripheral neuropathy, hypothyroid

disease, I haven't even bothered to find out what effects hasimotos disease

has on me. I am not my medical problems. I am a child of God with a job to

do here on earth. The most troublesome problem on a daily basis, and

comparitively rather minor, is osteo arthritis. It keeps reminding you with

pain. But when you know God is with you, that is so much more important

than how you might leave this world, or what will happen to you while you

are here. Now when I had an abcessed tooth that really flared up after my

last angioplasty, hurt from the top of my head down the side of my neck,

that was hard to keep out of my mind,[?] but I still continued to do as much

as possible. Jan H

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com>wrote:

> wow, you don't let cirrhosis occupy your mind much? Tell me how to

> accomplish that?

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:10:30 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Yes, Dave, Hospice care is for the end-of-life and is something you

> shouldn't consider until you have made your decision regarding

> transplant. Give it much thought and consideration, both for yourself and

> your grandson.

>

> None of us knows the number of our days. We walk about every day living

> like we think we will live forever; but the truth is that any of us could go

> within the next minute. I don't allow the thought that I have cirrhosis to

> occupy too much of my time. I live my life and try my best to take care of

> myself. When my time comes, it comes; end of story. I'm not a fatalist,

> just a realist.

>

> I am always here if you need a friend or an ear to listen. I can't hide my

> faith, but I won't shove it down your throat either. Good luck with the

> call to your doctor tomorrow!

>

> Warm Hugs........ ...

>

> Di

> http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:57:15 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Diane, thanks for the moral support, and for praying for me. I guess you

> could say, Lord knows I need it. What you were saying about my grandson is

> very true. His Grandmother, my X, is very sick also. He could easily lose

> out on knowing either of us well. He just turned two. My circumstances are

> so much better than some that it annoys me I get on so much self-pity. I

> could, when time comes, look into hospice. I think hospice is for the last

> 6 months. I may be wrong, though. I don't know how far away I am from

> needing a transplant yet. Several doc's gave me 5 yrs. a little less than 4

> yrs. ago. My liver doc would not give me a length, saying he does nor

> forecast the future. I appreciated him for that answer, and the others for

> their honesty. As they say be careful what you ask. I kind of wish now,

> when I asked, the other's would not have told me. I am sure they were going

> by percentage's giving my symptoms. If they

> were correct I am about 16 months away. As I have often thought, since

> their prediction, very few really know how long they have or how they will

> go. Dave

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:23:35 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Dave, you have in no way offended me. To say that have faith, without

> question, is certainly far from reality. I have come to a place in my life

> where I rarely allow myself to question God; that has not always been so. I

> struggled with my faith for many, many years through some terribly difficult

> circumstances. I hope I won't offend you by saying I will pray for you and

> ask you not to give up on God. He hasn't given up on you.

>

> That being said, I do honestly care about you and about what you are going

> through. Cirrhosis is hard, just plain HARD. Every day is a journey into

> the unknown and leads us down paths we never dreamed we would have to walk.

> Uncertainly and depression are familiar friends. I do so hope your doctor

> can help you with the edema. BTW, I just wanted to add that you should give

> serious consideration to that transplant. Whether you do it or not, give it

> every chance when deciding. You have a beautiful grandson who would so

> desperately miss his Grandpa, and I'd be willing to bet your daughter would

> sure miss you too! Sometimes, bad things happen to good people so they can

> reacess their lives and make fresh starts.

>

> I'm praying for you Dave!

>

> Warm Hugs........ ...

>

> Di

> http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:13:15 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Diane, this is one of my biggest problems. I do not have a strong belief

> in the here after, religion, etc. I do not want to offend those that do. I

> wish I did, but I don't. I see how much it helps people, but I have not

> been able to grasp the concept. I come from a family that both parents were

> strong believers and they took me to church regularly. I don't know why I

> have had such a hard time with faith. I am not of the belief that the world

> happened in a vacuum. There is a degree of spirituality in me. I'm sure

> you don't want me to go into the usual talk of why bad things happen to good

> people and good things happen to bad people. I just am unable to square the

> suffering people endure with the idea of God having his hand on the

> throttle, so to speak. I hope I have not offended you or anyone. I admire

> your ability to believe without question. I know there is a force of good

> in the universe, and certainly a evil in the

> universe. I know it would help me if I had your faith, but it avoids me or

> I avoid it. Whichever way it is, the outcome for me is the same, lack of

> faith for which I, in the end, pay the price.

> Dave

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:28:49 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Hi Dave,

>

> No, Terry opted not to try for a transplant. He had been at death's door a

> couple of times prior to even knowing about his liver disease. He felt much

> more peaceful about death than dealing with life after a transplant. Also,

> he had a genetic disorder that predisposed him to liver disease. He thought

> it would be selfish of him to ask for a donor liver, knowing his body would

> begin attacking it as soon as it was transplanted, when so few are

> available. It was so hard to sit by and watch him make that decision, but I

> had watched Momma die of renal failure and had seen all she had gone through

> with the dialysis and didn't want to emotionally force anything on Terry

> that he wasn't ready to deal with. I told him I would support him fully in

> whatever decision he made; if he chose to go for the transplant, I would be

> there every step of the way but if not, I would also help him live his life

> to the fullest until the time came for him to go home

> with the Lord. As hard as it was to give him up, I did so knowing I had

> done for him what his heart desired and loved him completely until Jesus

> came for him.

>

> Now that I have cirrhosis as well, I am much in the same boat as

> you. Terry and I had three children who never made it to this world. I

> have two sisters and a niece and four nephews who love me dearly. However,

> I am not comfortable asking them to take on the role of my caregiver as this

> disease progresses. I know how hard that is on the loved one and I don't

> want them to have to go through that. I have already started checking in to

> in-patient hospice care for when that time comes. Whether I will consider a

> transplant or not is something I haven't really even thought about yet. I

> pray about it and just ask the Lord to help me make the right decision when

> the time comes.

>

> Whatever decision you make, please know that I am praying for you. I do

> not look forward to dealing with this disease, but I also don't allow myself

> to worry about it. I simply leave it with the Lord and know He already has

> a plan and all I have to do is submit myself to His will and plan for my

> life. My faith carries me through this, just as it has through so many

> other areas of my life.

>

> Warm Hugs........ ...

>

> Di

> http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:05:45 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Thanks for writing back Diane..And I am sorry you had to go through this

> with your husband...I know from dealing with close friends and family how

> difficult a progressive fatal disease is on the caregiver and others

> close..if I may ask, did your husband have a transplant? I am wrestling

> with that decision when it comes, and whether to put myself and family

> through that. I don't really have someone I can move in with during the

> recovery process, and would not put that burden on my daughter and her

> significant other. For one there is not room in her house, except a

> finished basement, and I don't see how someone could negotiate the stairs in

> that condition. For another reason her relationship is fragile I believe,

> and that would certainly not help, and though we are civil, we really don't

> care a lot for each other. I know some go into medical centers to

> recuperate and I'm fine with that option, since likely the progression

> either way will put

> me into one, but I still have a lot of soul searching to do about a

> transplant. Dave

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:42:49 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

> Dave, I am so sorry. Dealing with this disease wears so quickly on your

> nerves and makes you so sad, so often. Please know I am praying for you.

> Do make that call to your doctor tomorrow morning, especially since this is

> your first experience with the swelling in your extremities. Terry, my late

> husband, used to swell so badly in his feet that he couldn't walk because

> his feet would actually be rounded on the bottom and wouldn't flaten out,

> even when he was fully weight-bearing. I cannot say I know what you are

> going through from my personal experience, but I do know from having been

> with Terry as he went through it. It is agonizing for you and for those who

> love you. Again, I am so sorry that this has infringed upon your weekend

> with your daughter and grandson. Please update us after you speak with your

> doctor. My prayers are with you.

>

> Warm Hugs........ ...

>

> Di

> http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:59:08 AM

> Subject: (unknown)

>

> I'm sorry I only seem to come here when things are bad, but seems they are

> mostly that way now...what has always been a great weekend when my daughter

> and grandson come up was full of agony for most of my visit...my legs, feet,

> and ankles swelled up so bad I could hardly walk, and my feet hurt very

> bad...finally this noon the swelling has mostly gone down..but I wonder for

> how long? I should call my doc tomorrow, but I get weary of doc's...this is

> a first in my journey of my feet and ankles swelling like this...I thought

> the ascites was bad, but that is more horrific..walking is terrible and just

> laying with my feet up to try and make the pain go away...and knowing things

> will, only progress into being worse...

> Dave

>

September 14, 2009

Yes, thanks to the very generous lady who owned the company, I was able to get

it. She was such a precious blessing to me when I went to order the monument.

Without her generosity, I couldn't have gotten it. Her daughter and I are very

close friends and Debbie's husband had passed away about a month prior to

Terry. So, her Mom was very generous with me. I will never forget her for that

and for so many other times in my life when she has been so precious to me.

Terry and I met when I was 15 1/2 and got married when I was 17 1/2; we

were married for 33+ years and were together for 2 years before that. I grew up

with him; he was and always will be the love of my life. I'm not saying I will

never love again, but I will never love anyone else the way I loved him. At

this point in my life, I cannot even imagine trying to go out with someone else;

I would feel like I were cheating on Terry. A couple of guys have asked to call

me, but I have refused; it's just too soon and I'm really not sure it will ever

be the right thing for me.

Warm Hugs...........

Di

http://auntdisexperimentallife.blogspot.com/

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:55:22 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

were you able to afford it? You sure had a special love for one another, it

shows in your writings, your memories.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:16:19 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Terry's doctors were much the same with regards to predictions. Terry always

knew more about himself than any of the doctors. And, I have to say, so did

I. My problem was accepting what I knew in my heart to be true. I wanted so

much for it not to be true. However, there was no denying it once I felt that

presence of death in our house about 4-6 weeks before Terry went home. I knew,

he knew and we just loved each other harder and tried to squeeze every joy out

of every minute for as long as we had. On his last visit to the hospital, as I

was driving him home he asked me to drive by the monument place where we had

seen some monuments we liked. I drove by and he pointed out the one he wanted.

He said very specifically " Di, it won't be long and that's the one I want if we

can afford that " . About two weeks later, he was with Jesus.

Warm Hugs........ ...

Di

http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jill <jillkstewart@ yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:04:33 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

My husband,Ed's, hepatologist will not really give us a time lkimit either. He

said Ed may continue like he is for 6 yearsor 6 months or 6 days. He says he

can't really predict it...but we will see some signs. Ed said during this last

hospital stay that he doesn't think he will live much more than 2 years....but

that's his personal opinion., Today Ed said he sure wishes someone would give

him a timeline on cirrohisis. . Wouldn't that be wonderful ! Then we could plan

and get things in order...and know how far ahead to dream about things! But as

it is......we take each day as it comes, cherish the Lord's blessings and try to

make each and every day a good one. That's all we can do.

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: (unknown)

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 7:57 PM

Diane, thanks for the moral support, and for praying for me. I guess you could

say, Lord knows I need it. What you were saying about my grandson is very

true. His Grandmother, my X, is very sick also. He could easily lose out on

knowing either of us well. He just turned two. My circumstances are so much

better than some that it annoys me I get on so much self-pity. I could, when

time comes, look into hospice. I think hospice is for the last 6 months. I may

be wrong, though. I don't know how far away I am from needing a transplant

yet. Several doc's gave me 5 yrs. a little less than 4 yrs. ago. My liver doc

would not give me a length, saying he does nor forecast the future. I

appreciated him for that answer, and the others for their honesty. As they say

be careful what you ask. I kind of wish now, when I asked, the other's would

not have told me. I am sure they were going by percentage's giving my

symptoms. If they

were correct I am about 16 months away. As I have often thought, since their

prediction, very few really know how long they have or how they will go. Dave

____________ _________ _________ __

From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:23:35 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Dave, you have in no way offended me. To say that have faith, without

question, is certainly far from reality. I have come to a place in my life

where I rarely allow myself to question God; that has not always been so.. I

struggled with my faith for many, many years through some terribly difficult

circumstances. I hope I won't offend you by saying I will pray for you and ask

you not to give up on God. He hasn't given up on you.

That being said, I do honestly care about you and about what you are going

through. Cirrhosis is hard, just plain HARD. Every day is a journey into the

unknown and leads us down paths we never dreamed we would have to walk.

Uncertainly and depression are familiar friends. I do so hope your doctor can

help you with the edema. BTW, I just wanted to add that you should give serious

consideration to that transplant. Whether you do it or not, give it every

chance when deciding. You have a beautiful grandson who would so desperately

miss his Grandpa, and I'd be willing to bet your daughter would sure miss you

too! Sometimes, bad things happen to good people so they can reacess their

lives and make fresh starts.

I'm praying for you Dave!

Warm Hugs........ ...

Di

http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

____________ _________ _________ __

From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:13:15 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Diane, this is one of my biggest problems. I do not have a strong belief in the

here after, religion, etc. I do not want to offend those that do. I wish I

did, but I don't. I see how much it helps people, but I have not been able to

grasp the concept. I come from a family that both parents were strong believers

and they took me to church regularly. I don't know why I have had such a hard

time with faith. I am not of the belief that the world happened in a vacuum.

There is a degree of spirituality in me. I'm sure you don't want me to go into

the usual talk of why bad things happen to good people and good things happen to

bad people.. I just am unable to square the suffering people endure with the

idea of God having his hand on the throttle, so to speak. I hope I have not

offended you or anyone. I admire your ability to believe without question. I

know there is a force of good in the universe, and certainly a evil in the

universe. I know it would help me if I had your faith, but it avoids me or I

avoid it. Whichever way it is, the outcome for me is the same, lack of faith

for which I, in the end, pay the price.

Dave

____________ _________ _________ __

From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:28:49 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Hi Dave,

No, Terry opted not to try for a transplant. He had been at death's door a

couple of times prior to even knowing about his liver disease. He felt much

more peaceful about death than dealing with life after a transplant. Also, he

had a genetic disorder that predisposed him to liver disease. He thought it

would be selfish of him to ask for a donor liver, knowing his body would begin

attacking it as soon as it was transplanted, when so few are available. It was

so hard to sit by and watch him make that decision, but I had watched Momma die

of renal failure and had seen all she had gone through with the dialysis and

didn't want to emotionally force anything on Terry that he wasn't ready to deal

with. I told him I would support him fully in whatever decision he made; if he

chose to go for the transplant, I would be there every step of the way but if

not, I would also help him live his life to the fullest until the time came for

him to go home

with the Lord. As hard as it was to give him up, I did so knowing I had done

for him what his heart desired and loved him completely until Jesus came for

him.

Now that I have cirrhosis as well, I am much in the same boat as you. Terry and

I had three children who never made it to this world. I have two sisters and a

niece and four nephews who love me dearly. However, I am not comfortable asking

them to take on the role of my caregiver as this disease progresses. I know how

hard that is on the loved one and I don't want them to have to go through that.

I have already started checking in to in-patient hospice care for when that time

comes. Whether I will consider a transplant or not is something I haven't

really even thought about yet. I pray about it and just ask the Lord to help me

make the right decision when the time comes.

Whatever decision you make, please know that I am praying for you. I do not

look forward to dealing with this disease, but I also don't allow myself to

worry about it. I simply leave it with the Lord and know He already has a plan

and all I have to do is submit myself to His will and plan for my life. My

faith carries me through this, just as it has through so many other areas of my

life.

Warm Hugs........ ...

Di

http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

____________ _________ _________ __

From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 5:05:45 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Thanks for writing back Diane..And I am sorry you had to go through this with

your husband...I know from dealing with close friends and family how difficult a

progressive fatal disease is on the caregiver and others close..if I may ask,

did your husband have a transplant? I am wrestling with that decision when it

comes, and whether to put myself and family through that. I don't really have

someone I can move in with during the recovery process, and would not put that

burden on my daughter and her significant other. For one there is not room in

her house, except a finished basement, and I don't see how someone could

negotiate the stairs in that condition. For another reason her relationship is

fragile I believe, and that would certainly not help, and though we are civil,

we really don't care a lot for each other. I know some go into medical centers

to recuperate and I'm fine with that option, since likely the progression either

way will put

me into one, but I still have a lot of soul searching to do about a

transplant. Dave

____________ _________ _________ __

From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:42:49 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Dave, I am so sorry. Dealing with this disease wears so quickly on your nerves

and makes you so sad, so often. Please know I am praying for you. Do make that

call to your doctor tomorrow morning, especially since this is your first

experience with the swelling in your extremities. Terry, my late husband, used

to swell so badly in his feet that he couldn't walk because his feet would

actually be rounded on the bottom and wouldn't flaten out, even when he was

fully weight-bearing. I cannot say I know what you are going through from my

personal experience, but I do know from having been with Terry as he went

through it. It is agonizing for you and for those who love you. Again, I am so

sorry that this has infringed upon your weekend with your daughter and

grandson. Please update us after you speak with your doctor. My prayers are

with you.

Warm Hugs........ ...

Di

http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

____________ _________ _________ __

From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:59:08 AM

Subject: (unknown)

I'm sorry I only seem to come here when things are bad, but seems they are

mostly that way now...what has always been a great weekend when my daughter and

grandson come up was full of agony for most of my visit...my legs, feet, and

ankles swelled up so bad I could hardly walk, and my feet hurt very

bad...finally this noon the swelling has mostly gone down..but I wonder for how

long? I should call my doc tomorrow, but I get weary of doc's...this is a first

in my journey of my feet and ankles swelling like this...I thought the ascites

was bad, but that is more horrific..walking is terrible and just laying with my

feet up to try and make the pain go away...and knowing things will, only

progress into being worse...

Dave

September 14, 2009

I will try to follow your lead!

Thanks amiga!

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:49:16 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

When I do think about it, I just choose to let it be a passing thought. Maybe

that's easier for me because my cirrhosis is still in the earlier stages. My

complications are very limited at this time, so it's not really hard work to

just put it aside. Also, I have to say, grief takes up most of my time right

now. It is by far the hardest thing I have ever done. Dealing with my own

health problems is no comparison to dealing with the pain of losing Terry. I

pray constantly just to be able to keep going every day. Do I give in to either

of these stressors at times; absolutely. I work very hard at only allowing

myself limited time in my day for either. I have to deal with my grief and I

have to deal with my cirrhosis, but I don't have to give either of them my

entire life and my complete attention. I try to fill my time with other things

so that I don't have time to think about my problems. I know it won't work for

everyone, but it

works for me. When I get under it, I just pray and ask the Lord to help me rise

above it. He hasn't let me down yet!

Warm Hugs........ ...

Di

http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:53:16 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

wow, you don't let cirrhosis occupy your mind much? Tell me how to accomplish

that?

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From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:10:30 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Yes, Dave, Hospice care is for the end-of-life and is something you shouldn't

consider until you have made your decision regarding transplant. Give it much

thought and consideration, both for yourself and your grandson.

None of us knows the number of our days. We walk about every day living like we

think we will live forever; but the truth is that any of us could go within the

next minute. I don't allow the thought that I have cirrhosis to occupy too much

of my time. I live my life and try my best to take care of myself. When my

time comes, it comes; end of story. I'm not a fatalist, just a realist.

I am always here if you need a friend or an ear to listen. I can't hide my

faith, but I won't shove it down your throat either. Good luck with the call to

your doctor tomorrow!

Warm Hugs........ ...

Di

http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/

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From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:57:15 PM