Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Phyllis, I am so sorry for your loss. You are in my thoughts and prayers. I know there isn't much I can say to help with your grief right now, but please try to find comfort in knowing that we are all here to support you. MaC Subject: (unknown) To: " #cirrhosis " <livercirrhosissupport > Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:02 AM My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Phyllis, my heart is broken for you. I can't stop crying because I know so well the numbed state of mind you're in right now. I am so very sorry for your loss. Please know I am praying for you and I am here anytime, day or night, if you need me. My home phone is . Call collect ANYTIME and I really mean that. If you just need someone to listen to your memories or listen as you cry, I am here. If you can't reach my home number, call my cell at . The days ahead won't be easy and the pain will feel unbearable. Lean on your family and your faith. I love you dear Phyllis. Please let me help you if I can. Warm Hugs........... Di http://auntdisexperimentallife.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ To: #cirrhosis <livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:02:14 AM Subject: (unknown) My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Phyllis, I'm so sorry for your loss. God bless you honey. love, linda tilly Subject: (unknown) To: " #cirrhosis " <livercirrhosissupport > Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 7:02 AM My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Phyllis i am so very sad to hear this. my heart reaches out to you. I can not even think of having to endure this possibility. Please know that we are and will always be here for you. much love and prayers sandra ________________________________ To: #cirrhosis <livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:02:14 AM Subject: (unknown) My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I'm so sorry Phyllis. Roni > My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver > finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to > er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could > stablize his BP. > Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine > what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, > so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from > there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your > friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this > amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of > my heart. Tough days ahead.. > Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. > Much love, Phyllis > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I am so sorry Phyllis. At least hisd suffering is over. Now you start the journey of grief. peace and comfort, Dave ________________________________ To: #cirrhosis <livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:02:14 AM Subject: (unknown) My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 " Guess it shows you the power of alcoholism. " I would say that is true, Dave. I tend to feel sad for him more than angry. Going through transplant surgery is no walk in the park. To have wanted to live badly enough to go through that, yet fall prey to the disease of alcoholism yet again is so sad. My prayers are with him. Warm Hugs........... Di http://auntdisexperimentallife.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:54:09 AM Subject: (unknown) I know a guy that got a new liver 2 yrs. ago, and quickly begin drinking alcohol, again. He is now in the hospital with liver failure, and kidney failure. I have heard he would go to VFW halls and drink in front of all like he had before his transplant. I would say he must have snowed the liver transplant team pretty good at the get go. He owns a big insurance agency. Wonder if that played a roll in his receiving a liver? What a terrible waist of a liver. Someone deservant and respectful of the gift should have recieved it. I have a hard time feeling bad for this guy. Guess it shows you the power of alcoholism. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Phyllis, My love and prayers are with you and your family. ((((((((Hug))))))))))) Thanks be to God for he creates our tomorrows Love, Lyncia Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 5:36 AM Phyllis i am so very sad to hear this. my heart reaches out to you. I can not even think of having to endure this possibility. Please know that we are and will always be here for you. much love and prayers sandra ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> To: #cirrhosis <livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:02:14 AM Subject: (unknown) My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 dear phyliss my heart and prayers are with you, i know how it feel to lose someone so close, i lost my brother 2 years ago, i miss him so much, i dont have no one to fuss with and talk to listen, we never no how much you love someone until they are gone. i am bouncing back, but everyday i find myself dailing his number. lean on your faith keep praying because like it been said so many time, god is the only one with the right answer, phyliss i feel joy for you because you got another family here, i am sure that what ever you ask us to do for you in your hour of need we will. please feel free to write me and if you need someone to talk to, i am here also just holla, please, alwys, in chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yeah, you are so right, Diane. I, of all people, can definitely empathise with the poor soul. The more I think about it, the more I feel really bad for him. to quick to judge instead of understand at times. Peace and comfort.. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:58:47 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) " Guess it shows you the power of alcoholism. " I would say that is true, Dave. I tend to feel sad for him more than angry. Going through transplant surgery is no walk in the park. To have wanted to live badly enough to go through that, yet fall prey to the disease of alcoholism yet again is so sad. My prayers are with him. Warm Hugs........ ... Di http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:54:09 AM Subject: (unknown) I know a guy that got a new liver 2 yrs. ago, and quickly begin drinking alcohol, again. He is now in the hospital with liver failure, and kidney failure. I have heard he would go to VFW halls and drink in front of all like he had before his transplant. I would say he must have snowed the liver transplant team pretty good at the get go. He owns a big insurance agency. Wonder if that played a roll in his receiving a liver? What a terrible waist of a liver. Someone deservant and respectful of the gift should have recieved it. I have a hard time feeling bad for this guy. Guess it shows you the power of alcoholism. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 This is also true. I agree with you and I agree with Diane. He is a jerk for sure for wasting a liver. Then again he may have convinced hisself he could quit6. Given it was a very short time after the transplant, when he was seen out drinking, I tend to more believe he thought a new liver would stand up to the alcohol. Knowing a little about him, he may have snowed the doc's and never had quit totally. Just makes me so sad to think some lil' angel or deservable adult could have used it. Peace and comfort Bob. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:12:35 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) What a selfish jerk. Donated livers are in short supply, and it is so much better to just be honest and drink if you are going to drink, then die. Maybe the guy believed he could cheat death? Or maybe he thought a transplanted liver would stand up to drinking. This is the second story I have heard about an alcoholic relapsing after getting a liver transplant. I have also heard of two people who were given transplants without even so much as a promise to quit by the recipient. I often wonder how they are doing now... One was a lady who was in a coma because of encephalopathy, and her daughter had to give permission to the surgical team, who knew, or maybe they didn't about the woman's drinking being the cause of her liver failure. The other was recent and on this forum. The latter one seemed to at least want to try to stay sober. Neither had done any kind of treatment, AA or anything. There is sure a lot of disparity in the various programs. The guy you describe succeeded only in delaying his demise by costing insurance a ton of cash, and wasting , like you say, Dave, a good liver which ought to have been given to someone else. But when it comes to this crazy disease, the more I think I know, the more I realize that no one one knows. No one. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:54:09 AM Subject: (unknown) I know a guy that got a new liver 2 yrs. ago, and quickly begin drinking alcohol, again. He is now in the hospital with liver failure, and kidney failure. I have heard he would go to VFW halls and drink in front of all like he had before his transplant. I would say he must have snowed the liver transplant team pretty good at the get go. He owns a big insurance agency. Wonder if that played a roll in his receiving a liver? What a terrible waist of a liver. Someone deservant and respectful of the gift should have recieved it. I have a hard time feeling bad for this guy. Guess it shows you the power of alcoholism. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 We started the home infusion of desferal @ home-it was intended to be an 8hr treatment 4x a week. The order came in @ 12hr infusion 4x a week. I injected him every other day. He started slowly deteriorating when treatment began, first an inability to eat. Next day that he didn't get the treatment he was fine, same old Phil. That was the first week, by the second week the changes were more dramatic, mental confusion, vomiting, lack of appetite, simple tasks were too much for him. I called Dr's office,and told them I was discontinuing treatment as he was becoming a Zombie. They sent him for labs and then called back on Thursday telling us to increase lactolose to 2-3 times a day and that would eliminate most of his problems, but to continue with treatment program. We would see a change in 2 days. I resisted and they insisted. So I again infusion him on Friday. Saturday he said he didn't feel good, so I gave him ensure and pedialyte and he seemed to tolerate it well...no vomiting, However, he flooded the bathroom as he didn't know how to turn off water, and in attempting to shut he broke faucet. I assured him it was fine and I also had difficulty with faucet (not true) . Sunday vomiting again, not much as he hadn't eaten much, called Dr's office no reurn call came, Phil said " wait til Monday I'm feeling better and we will see dr then " He seemed better so I agreed, but I wasn't scheduled to infuse until Monday and Dr visit was on Tuesday. I called hemotologist Dr Monday morning and told voice message system that I was taking him to er, and the rest is history. In my heart I beleive having the infusion robbed me of my husband. He was fine two weeks ago and once infusion started he slowly started to deteriorate. I wish I had followed my heart and stopped after the first week, he would still be here. I thank God that he never suffered and he wasn't depressed, he trusted me and the Dr's. I have prayed all along that he not suffer and God spared him of that ugliness. So I accept God's wishes, thru my tears. He was a good man and now he is my guardian angel. I beleive this to be true. My daughter created a blog spot and tribute to her father. check it out I will send her email to me to the group so anyone can view if they so desire. I am weak in computer skills so this is the only way I can think of to forward. Thank you all for your blessings and concern for us. Peace. Phyllis ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:54:14 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) I cannot believe my eyes. I am so sorry. I was not expecting this. I am sure you weren't either. I am so so sorry, Phyllis. Please let your family know that Sharon and I are praying for them and you. We are truly sorry for your loss. Love, your friend, Bobby Aragon long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> To: #cirrhosis <livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:02:14 AM Subject: (unknown) My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Dearest Phyllis, I so understand where you are and what you're feeling right now. I am so thankful you have your daughter to help you through this. Yes, Phil is with our Lord now and is indeed watching over you. I believe that as well. I talk to Terry every day of my life, many times a day. And, there have been episodes when I know he was responding to me. Maybe that sound crazy to some, but I've talked to my doctor about this and he assures me I am not crazy! I would very much like to see the blog your daughter created. I am so thankful Phil did not suffer and knew that he could trust you and his doctors to take care of him. You gave him your very best; please don't beat yourself up with too much second thinking about things that have already happened. Phil loved you with his whole heart and you love him. Your lifetime of memories attest to that. Nothing can ever change that love now, it is safe in eternity, as is Phil. My heart and my prayers are with you Phyllis. May the Lord give you strength and comfort for the days ahead. Warm Hugs........... Di http://auntdisexperimentallife.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:10:27 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) We started the home infusion of desferal @ home-it was intended to be an 8hr treatment 4x a week. The order came in @ 12hr infusion 4x a week. I injected him every other day. He started slowly deteriorating when treatment began, first an inability to eat. Next day that he didn't get the treatment he was fine, same old Phil. That was the first week, by the second week the changes were more dramatic, mental confusion, vomiting, lack of appetite, simple tasks were too much for him. I called Dr's office,and told them I was discontinuing treatment as he was becoming a Zombie. They sent him for labs and then called back on Thursday telling us to increase lactolose to 2-3 times a day and that would eliminate most of his problems, but to continue with treatment program. We would see a change in 2 days. I resisted and they insisted. So I again infusion him on Friday. Saturday he said he didn't feel good, so I gave him ensure and pedialyte and he seemed to tolerate it well...no vomiting, However, he flooded the bathroom as he didn't know how to turn off water, and in attempting to shut he broke faucet. I assured him it was fine and I also had difficulty with faucet (not true) . Sunday vomiting again, not much as he hadn't eaten much, called Dr's office no reurn call came, Phil said " wait til Monday I'm feeling better and we will see dr then " He seemed better so I agreed, but I wasn't scheduled to infuse until Monday and Dr visit was on Tuesday. I called hemotologist Dr Monday morning and told voice message system that I was taking him to er, and the rest is history. In my heart I beleive having the infusion robbed me of my husband. He was fine two weeks ago and once infusion started he slowly started to deteriorate. I wish I had followed my heart and stopped after the first week, he would still be here. I thank God that he never suffered and he wasn't depressed, he trusted me and the Dr's. I have prayed all along that he not suffer and God spared him of that ugliness. So I accept God's wishes, thru my tears. He was a good man and now he is my guardian angel. I beleive this to be true. My daughter created a blog spot and tribute to her father. check it out I will send her email to me to the group so anyone can view if they so desire. I am weak in computer skills so this is the only way I can think of to forward. Thank you all for your blessings and concern for us. Peace. Phyllis ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Bob Aragon <robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:54:14 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) I cannot believe my eyes. I am so sorry. I was not expecting this. I am sure you weren't either. I am so so sorry, Phyllis. Please let your family know that Sharon and I are praying for them and you. We are truly sorry for your loss. Love, your friend, Bobby Aragon long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com> To: #cirrhosis <livercirrhosissupp o rtyahoogroups (DOT) com> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:02:14 AM Subject: (unknown) My Husband Phil passed away today @ the age of 66. His liver finally gave out and then everything else followed. I took him to er yesterday around noon, they had him in er 12 hrs before the could stablize his BP. Her then went into a medical floor while they ran tests to determine what was causing his pain in stomach. His BP started to fall again, so he was then transferred to ICU and he never made it home from there. Thank you all for your support , your prayers and your friendship. I never would have survived this ordeal without this amazing group of people..I want to thank you ALL, from the bottom of my heart. Tough days ahead.. Keep the faith and I will try to do the same. Much love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dave, I wish that I could comfort you more ............ you need a big (((((((((((((hug))))))))))))). We are here for you when needed. Love, Lyncia ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM Subject: (unknown) I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. Love, Lyncia ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM Subject: (unknown) I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Dave, words just can't tell you how sorry I am for you and your buddy. I know that's hard. A friend of mine died a yr. ago from cirrhosis/Hep C.I didn't know she had it and she didn't know I had it. We had been friends for over 50 yrs. but had grown apart. She still lived a life of alcohol and drugs and even though I hadn't spoken to her for a couple of years it tore me down to the core. A friend like that...well you know there is just no way to explain the loss. You're a good man and the people in your life ( including this group) are blessed to have you... wishes for peace to you...~~~Debbie > > Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. > Dave > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > Dave, > > I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. > > Love, Lyncia > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Dave, I am so sorry. Yes, it is very difficult to watch your loved one dying. Please know you and your friend are in my thoughts and prayers. Warm Hugs........... Di http://auntdisexperimentallife.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:54:59 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. Dave ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. Love, Lyncia ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM Subject: (unknown) I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thank you Debbie..I am own my way now to spend the day with him. My daughter and grandson are coming up tonite, and we are going to Lake Ozark and Ha-Ha Tonka. Have you heard of this place? Will talk to you all later. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 9:09:13 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, words just can't tell you how sorry I am for you and your buddy. I know that's hard. A friend of mine died a yr. ago from cirrhosis/Hep C.I didn't know she had it and she didn't know I had it. We had been friends for over 50 yrs. but had grown apart. She still lived a life of alcohol and drugs and even though I hadn't spoken to her for a couple of years it tore me down to the core. A friend like that...well you know there is just no way to explain the loss. You're a good man and the people in your life ( including this group) are blessed to have you... wishes for peace to you...~~~Debbie > > Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. > Dave > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdon@. ..> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > Dave, > > I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. > > Love, Lyncia > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well, Ha ha Tonka sounds like a Lakota word...is it? Bob Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (unknown) > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Dave...I'm so sorry to hear about your best friend.....buddies since you were 2? That's a lifetime friend. I'm really sorry he's so bad. Be brave when you're with him. I'm sure he'll be so glad to have you by his side even if he's not aware. I'm so glad you're a part of this gruop. We're glad to have you here. Sending a hug your way! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 8:52:37 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) Thank you Debbie..I am own my way now to spend the day with him. My daughter and grandson are coming up tonite, and we are going to Lake Ozark and Ha-Ha Tonka. Have you heard of this place? Will talk to you all later. Dave ____________ _________ _________ __ From: drgonflyblue <pita54meyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 9:09:13 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, words just can't tell you how sorry I am for you and your buddy. I know that's hard. A friend of mine died a yr. ago from cirrhosis/Hep C.I didn't know she had it and she didn't know I had it. We had been friends for over 50 yrs. but had grown apart. She still lived a life of alcohol and drugs and even though I hadn't spoken to her for a couple of years it tore me down to the core. A friend like that...well you know there is just no way to explain the loss. You're a good man and the people in your life ( including this group) are blessed to have you... wishes for peace to you...~~~Debbie > > Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. > Dave > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdon@. ..> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > Dave, > > I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. > > Love, Lyncia > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items.. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Have a safe trip Dave. I have heard of Lake Ozark but not Ha-Ha Tonka but anyplace with the word HAHA in it has to be a good place right? Enjoy the family...Best wishes~~~Debbie > > > > Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Lyncia <lmlangdon@ ..> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > Dave, > > > > I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > > Dave > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thank you Diane..I know practically everyone here can relate..I was there today, watching him while his wife was working, and he is becoming more and more disoriented. I am afraid he will pull his pain pump out, or God knows what. I am afraid he may have to go into a nursing home soon, because I don't think she can take much more, or handle him much longer. I know that is the last thing he would want, but she is looking so weak herself. I am glad his family will have to reach that decision and not me. Thw tumor is his side just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Honestly close to grapefruit size. Poor guy. We have been through everything in life together. I guess it is fitting we go through this together as well. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 4:10:17 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, I am so sorry. Yes, it is very difficult to watch your loved one dying. Please know you and your friend are in my thoughts and prayers. Warm Hugs........ ... Di http://auntdisexper imentallife. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:54:59 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. Dave ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. Love, Lyncia ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM Subject: (unknown) I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'm not really sure of its origin. This area was heavily inhabited by the Osage, which are likely a branch of the Sioux. Coming down from the Dakota's likely, and migrating to the Dakota's from the Ohio area they believe. The word Osage gets its origin from the belief that the people of the Earth and the People of the Sun came together forming one group " The Osage " , or " People of The Middle Water's. " Perhaps the Missouri River. Perhaps The Mississippi. I will try and check tomarrow and see. Peace and comfort. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 10:19:39 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) Well, Ha ha Tonka sounds like a Lakota word...is it? Bob Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (unknown) > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thank you Jill. I try, but it is very difficult to keep my emotions in check. Peace and comfort, Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 10:28:56 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave...I'm so sorry to hear about your best friend.. ...buddies since you were 2? That's a lifetime friend. I'm really sorry he's so bad. Be brave when you're with him. I'm sure he'll be so glad to have you by his side even if he's not aware. I'm so glad you're a part of this gruop. We're glad to have you here. Sending a hug your way! Love,Jill We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: dave dodds <daveliltoeyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 8:52:37 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) Thank you Debbie..I am own my way now to spend the day with him. My daughter and grandson are coming up tonite, and we are going to Lake Ozark and Ha-Ha Tonka. Have you heard of this place? Will talk to you all later. Dave ____________ _________ _________ __ From: drgonflyblue <pita54meyahoo (DOT) com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 9:09:13 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Dave, words just can't tell you how sorry I am for you and your buddy. I know that's hard. A friend of mine died a yr. ago from cirrhosis/Hep C.I didn't know she had it and she didn't know I had it. We had been friends for over 50 yrs. but had grown apart. She still lived a life of alcohol and drugs and even though I hadn't spoken to her for a couple of years it tore me down to the core. A friend like that...well you know there is just no way to explain the loss. You're a good man and the people in your life ( including this group) are blessed to have you... wishes for peace to you...~~~Debbie > > Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. > Dave > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Lyncia <lmlangdon@. ..> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > Dave, > > I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. > > Love, Lyncia > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items.. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Debbie, below the cliff at Ha Ha Tonka there is the most beautiful spring. I think this is likely part of the naming of it, and am curious if it translated to laughing rocks. No idea for sure, but am going to check. Peace and comfort, Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 5:48:54 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Have a safe trip Dave. I have heard of Lake Ozark but not Ha-Ha Tonka but anyplace with the word HAHA in it has to be a good place right? Enjoy the family...Best wishes~~~Debbie > > > > Thank you Lyncia, I could use one. After I wrote earlier the wife of my best buddy since we were 2 yrs. old called. I have been kind of a secondary caregiver for him now 2 yrs. He is battling cancer, and the hospice nurse says he will likely have maybe a month left. He is becoming very mentally disoriented now, and she says it will only get worse. He is not to be alone, so while she is working I will be there. Quite depressing watching your best friend inch closer and closer to death. > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Lyncia <lmlangdon@ ..> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:19:17 PM > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > > > > > Dave, > > > > I wish that I could comfort you more ........ .... you need a big (((((((((((( (hug))))) )))))))). We are here for you when needed. > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: dave dodds <daveliltoe@ yahoo. com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 10:09:22 AM > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > I am sorry Debbie, that you are having this conflict with your daughter. I'm sure your precious little 2 yr. old grand baby leaving is particularly difficult. It seems too often be a common thread, this conflict between mothers and daughters. My daughter just phoned me to tell me her mother had been diagnosed with cirrhosis. My baby girl, now 30 with a whirlwind sweet two year old boy, was our only child. When she was 4, I gained custody of her. We have a great relationship, whereas her relationship with her mom has been torturous at best. But she loves her mother, and even though we both knew her mother had liver problems, she was quite upset. My X and self rarely talk. She is remarried, and I remarried for a while. She still drinks along with assorted other liver unfriendly items. Knowledge of Hep C didn't slow her down. Maybe cirrhosis will. Makes me feel so bad that my child had to deal with our stupidity in her younger > > years, and is still having to deal with this cirrhosis all around her. Her lil' guy could easily loose both his grandparents at a very young age. But I have already kicked myself really hard numerous times, and am working on getting over that. It is so true that addiction is a family disease, and so is this disease. Just rambling. Got things I need to be doing. Peace and comfort to you all, > > Dave > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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