Re: Sublingual intake of Armour

[Guest guest]

someone with a really

dosage sensitive system.

You are sensitive because you need proper thyroid meds and adrenal support, you

know. Are you sure you cannot afford bio-throid? ($30 for 100 1 grain, plus

$15 shipping). They even just had a special, free shipping. Maybe bio-throid

is unavailable now. Is a Naturopath out of the question?

Gracia

[Guest guest]

I had a really long reply.. I deleted it...

the bottom line.. I know I need more, I know I need more than just

thyroid and adrenal, I know I need more sleep, I know I need better food,

I know from research and experience that I'm in need of a lot of

things...

No insurance, no money, no prospects, no options. I don't smoke, or

drink.. I don't go out. I don't have a car. I live with my dad. I don't

order pizzas.. I have no place to trim my budget to allocate to

medicine..

What I'm doing now is the best that I can. This time last year I had no

vitamins, thyroid, iron, nothing... Until I found the OTCs last July.. I

had no prospect of getting anything at all...

but I cry really good...

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:54:07 -0500 " Gracia " writes:

> someone with a really

> dosage sensitive system.

>

> You are sensitive because you need proper thyroid meds and adrenal

> support, you know. Are you sure you cannot afford bio-throid? ($30

> for 100 1 grain, plus $15 shipping). They even just had a special,

> free shipping. Maybe bio-throid is unavailable now. Is a

> Naturopath out of the question?

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

Oh , you are SOL! Sorry, sweetie!

Zina

>

> Oh yes. He mentioned his wife to me and my friend (

> He said he and his wife were writing the book WHAT TO DO WHEN THE

DOCTOR TELL'S YOU IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD together.

>

> >

> > I don't know if he has a website but I will ask. He is very

busy I

> guess working in Maine and Mass. He is about 40, handsome, smart

and

> charming, and really committed to endocrine health. He is so

understanding

> that I am sure he has suffered thyroid problems himself.

> > Gracia

>

> The real question is: Is he married???

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper,

That is very helpful, thanks. Its nice to see what other people do.

You are a sweetie.

Zina

> Zina..

>

> I'm the first to admit that my regime is outrageous... but my

system has

> always been really sensitive to dosage changes and such so as I

gradually

> increased my dosage since I started taking thyroid again in July I

did it

> a quarter tablet at a time....

>

> First it was 1 quarter a day, in the morning...after 6 weeks it was

1

> quarter in the morning and the 2nd quarter 12 hours later....after 6

> weeks it was one quarter in the morning.. 2nd quarter 6 hours later

and

> the 3rd quarter 6 hours after that...get the picture?

>

> Vitamins were added to the regime in November (before that I

couldn't

> afford them so wasn't able to take any) Adrenal supplement was

started in

> November, daily, stopped in December... restarted in late February,

now

> taken every third day...Iron supplement started 1 week ago.

>

> So... current schedule...

>

> Wake up between 6 and 6:30

> Out of bed between 6:30 and 7 am

> 8 oz of filtered water

> 7 am 1/2 grain OTC thyroid - sublingual

> 8 am 1/4 tablet adrenal supplement every 3rd day - sublingual

> 8:30 am breakfast followed by 1/3 tablet of generic vitamin (Centrum

> Silver equivalent - no iron)

> 10 am 1/2 grain OTC thyroid - sublingual

> noon lunch followed by 1/3 tablet of generic vitamin (Centrum Silver

> equivalent - no iron)

> 1 pm 1/2 grain OTC thyroid - sublingual

> 2 pm only if hungry (growling tummy not just hungry in my head)

piece of

> plain homemade bread or cupcake (no icing)

> 4 pm 1/2 grain OTC thyroid - sublingual

> 5 pm dinner followed by 1/3 tablet of generic vitamin (Centrum

Silver

> equivalent - no iron)

> 7 pm 1/2 grain OTC thyroid - sublingual

> 10 pm 90% daily requirement of iron supplement (1/4 tablet)

swallowed

> with about 4 oz of water.

> in bed between 10 and 10:30.. asleep between 10:30 and 11 (unless

its a

> bad night for pain.. then who knows...)

>

> Exercises (stretching and isometrics) are done during the half hour

after

> waking and before sleeping.. while in bed.. more comfortable to do

the

> stuff on the bed then on the floor.

>

> I work from home, that's why I can have such a weird schedule. Most

of

> the time my body reminds me it's time for a pill before the alarm

goes

> off to remind me.. I have a program on the computer that flashes a

> reminder to take each pill so that I don't forget.

>

> I DO NOT nap during the day.. if I can't sleep at night I'm SOL -

that

> has been the only way I've found to reduce bouts of insomnia...

sleep has

> to be during sleep time or I have to stay awake until next sleep

time.. I

> find that I have fewer problems with sleepless nights that way.

>

> I don't have afternoon crashes.. but I do have some bad days where

I'm

> dead tired all day... haven't figured out the whys for that yet..

haven't

> determined the pattern.

>

> I have pretty much cut caffeine consumption down to nil.. it's now

an

> infrequent treat. I drink mostly filtered water (tap water is on a

> softener and is too salty). I try to do at least a half gallon of

water a

> day... except for the half glass that I take with the iron tab at

bed

> time I stop drinking fluids about 2 hours before bed, it's really

cut

> down on midnight bathroom runs.. So I dont' wake during the night

and

> have trouble going back to sleep. Occasionally soft drinks or fruit

> juice.

>

> I'll be increasing my Thyroid intake by another quarter tab as soon

as I

> place my next order (I don't want to run out and I'm still a bit

short on

> money) since I'll be taking a tablet and a half at that point I

plan on

> taking half tablets (1 grain) per dose.. three times a day - 1/2

tablet

> every 6 hours (so 7 am, 1 pm, and 7 pm)....

>

> I don't know if that actually answers your question.. but I wanted

to

> share what my schedule was.. it does work for me.. someone with a

really

> dosage sensitive system.

>

> Topper ()

> http://toppertwo.tripod.com

>

> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:38:50 -0000 " thwacksplat "

> <zinatrotter@b...> writes:

> > Hi Topper,

> >

> > You certainly hit the nail on the head! If you aren't open

minded

> > enough to listen to what other people are doing, you really limit

> > what you can do for yourself.

> >

> > Hey, I have a question for you or whoever may know the answer.

Now

> > that I'm taking half my dose in the morning, sublingually, and

the

> > other half later in the day, I'm trying to figure out the best

> > routine for me in doing so. Since I just learned that

calcium/iron

> > still may interfer with the absorption of thyroid hormone, I'm

> > trying

> > to figure out when to take my vitamins, now. So, after I take my

> > Armour, how long do I need to wait to take my vitamins? Also, if

I

> > take my vitamins first, how long do I need to wait before I can

take

> > my Armour?

> >

> > Thanks. I certainly agree Topper, I've learned a ton in just the

> > last several weeks in this group. I'm so glad I found all of

you!

> > I'd be lost without ya'll!

> >

> > Cheer!

> >

> > Zina

[Guest guest]

> No insurance, no money, no prospects, no options. I don't smoke, or

> drink.. I don't go out. I don't have a car. I live with my dad. I don't

> order pizzas.. I have no place to trim my budget to allocate to

> medicine..

>

Why don't you go over to Suite101.com and apply as an editor for something

you know about and write about it? I was a managing editor for them for a

few years (yes, I used spell check!*LOL*) It doesn't pay as much as

About.com, not even near it, which is why about.com never has good topics

open. But Suite101 will give you $25 a month (at least thats what thy used

to pay for regular topic editors) for writing a few words a week and listing

a few links. It paid for my internet access when I did it, and that would be

a few more dollars you could save for meds and better stuff for yourself. I

don't know if they still hire, but I also used to get links for

studyweb.com. I used to do a lot of surfing for them, and ended up with

another $50 a month for them as well. I worked for toher sites as well that

no longer exist, but it is worth a try to find ways to work from home on the

computer. It won't get you rich, but it will buy a little food or medicine!

There are always options, topper. Always. Sometimes we just need a little

help finding them, *hug*

[Guest guest]

> Oh , you are SOL! Sorry, sweetie!

>

> Zina

>

Oh yeah? He'd meet me and forget he was ever married to what's-her-name.

[Guest guest]

I checked out Suite 101.. they offer some free benies but no pay... must

have changed their policies.. thanks for the suggestion though....

Topper ()

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/

http://toppertwo.tripod.com

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:15:07 -0500 " Jobes "

writes:

>

> > No insurance, no money, no prospects, no options. I don't smoke,

> or

> > drink.. I don't go out. I don't have a car. I live with my dad. I

> don't

> > order pizzas.. I have no place to trim my budget to allocate to

> > medicine..

> >

> Why don't you go over to Suite101.com and apply as an editor for

> something

> you know about and write about it? I was a managing editor for them

> for a

> few years (yes, I used spell check!*LOL*) It doesn't pay as much as

> About.com, not even near it, which is why about.com never has good

> topics

> open. But Suite101 will give you $25 a month (at least thats what

> thy used

> to pay for regular topic editors) for writing a few words a week and

> listing

> a few links. It paid for my internet access when I did it, and that

> would be

> a few more dollars you could save for meds and better stuff for

> yourself. I

> don't know if they still hire, but I also used to get links for

> studyweb.com. I used to do a lot of surfing for them, and ended up

> with

> another $50 a month for them as well. I worked for toher sites as

> well that

> no longer exist, but it is worth a try to find ways to work from

> home on the

> computer. It won't get you rich, but it will buy a little food or

> medicine!

>

> There are always options, topper. Always. Sometimes we just need a

> little

> help finding them, *hug*

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where can I order the bio-thyroid and is it a natural bovine or porcine?

Thanks for any information! Merry B

Re: Re: Sublingual intake of Armour

> someone with a really

> dosage sensitive system.

>

> You are sensitive because you need proper thyroid meds and adrenal

support, you know. Are you sure you cannot afford bio-throid? ($30 for 100

1 grain, plus $15 shipping). They even just had a special, free shipping.

Maybe bio-throid is unavailable now. Is a Naturopath out of the question?

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

bio-throid is just like Armour, only minus allergic fillers. (porcine)

http://www.smart-drugs.net

click on low thyroid. I guess there has been some problem with availability.

Gracia

Where can I order the bio-thyroid and is it a natural bovine or porcine?

Thanks for any information! Merry B

Re: Re: Sublingual intake of Armour

> someone with a really

> dosage sensitive system.

>

> You are sensitive because you need proper thyroid meds and adrenal

support, you know. Are you sure you cannot afford bio-throid? ($30 for 100

1 grain, plus $15 shipping). They even just had a special, free shipping.

Maybe bio-throid is unavailable now. Is a Naturopath out of the question?

> Gracia