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That's is why we're lucky to have her here. Maybe she should get the

ipod this month? ???

Reg

> >>> >

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Wister,

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> You'll have to get used to people being upset when you say

something

> >>>> >> IS what it IS. We're in a world where people feel safe

behind words

> >>>> >> like " circumcision " , " abortion " , " medicating " .. rather

than just

> >>>> >> saying what it is. Mutilating, altering, etc.. Killing

and sucking

> >>>> >> out life, etc. Drugging our children and getting them

stoned, etc..

> >>>> >> Why don't we just call a spade a spade? Because the

people involved

> >>>> >> in the actions say that when you just say what it IS that

they do,

> >>>> >> you're being judgemental.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> When my children say, " Mom!! The kids across the street

are " salting a

> >>>> >> slug! Can we have some salt? " , I reply, " What? ..OH!! You

MEAN, 'The

> >>>> >> kids across the street are pouring salt onto a slug and

torturing it,

> >>>> >> and causing pain and suffering? Can I torture it as

well?' Is that

> >>>> >> what you meant? " Their eyes open wide(see the importance

of those

> >>>> >> words), and they are suddenly shaking their heads and

saying, " No. I

> >>>> >> don't want to. "

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Truth is truth and saying exactly what something IS, is

very powerful

> >>>> >> and helps people to Awaken and pull out of their slumber,

reevaluate

> >>>> >> their actions and bring themselves to a Higher Minded

level of

> >>>> >> thinking. Constantly trying to make people cozy and

comfortable with

> >>>> >> side-stepping words keeps everyone in a state of hypnosis

and

> >>>> >> stagnance. Complacency is a dangerous thing, and keeps us

from

> >>>> >> evolving.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I can think of few things more healthy for our well-being

than always

> >>>> >> stating the facts exactly as they are, and then let us

judge ourselves

> >>>> >> according to the Truths. I insist on being blatantly

honest about

> >>>> >> every single issue with my kids. The girls tell me they

love it. For

> >>>> >> example, ..My four year old reached for some Coca-cola at

a party.

> >>>> >> She wanted me to pour it for her, pleading, " Mommy, can I

have some

> >>>> >> Coke? " I got down to her level and whispered, " You mean,

you want the

> >>>> >> drink with the chemicals and drugs? I don't think that's

the best

> >>>> >> thing for your beautiful body, hon.. " Even my four year

old knows

> >>>> >> what drugs and chemicals are, because when I feed them, I

pass them

> >>>> >> their food and say things like, " Here ya go girls! I've

got some

> >>>> >> fruit for you, with Vit. C, to help you fight off cold and

germs, and

> >>>> >> here's some beans, with protein, etc. Here's your pure

water, to keep

> >>>> >> you hydrated, ..here's your cereal, with lots of fiber to

help you

> >>>> >> poo! ;).. " They're absolutely thrilled to know the Truth

and details

> >>>> >> about everything and it helps them to make

educated/intelligent

> >>>> >> choices when I'm not with them.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I'd encourage everyone to keep your children's Eyes Open

by always

> >>>> >> being completely honest with them about everything. This

young

> >>>> >> generation is so advanced and ready for Truth. They will

help move us

> >>>> >> forward at lightning speed if we do our part and simply be

open with

> >>>> >> them. Don't drug them. Don't give them political

nonsense words.

> >>>> >> Don't white-wash even the mistakes you make. Even when I

do unhealthy

> >>>> >> things or make poor choices, I tell them that is exactly

what I'm

> >>>> >> doing, " I'm making a poor choice right now, because I'm

feeling weak,

> >>>> >> etc. " or " I did this or that, because I wasn't tuned in to

the Spirit

> >>>> >> and was behaving selfishly. "

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I hope most can understand the importance of what I'm

saying. We want

> >>>> >> the generations to come to use the concepts of

macrobiotics, yin and

> >>>> >> yang, and spirituality through every aspect of their

lives, because it

> >>>> >> will make them healthy and FREE. We need to be respectful

of where

> >>>> >> others stand, but, a spade is a spade and it isn't being

mean to call

> >>>> >> it so.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> amy

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>

> >> Brown Waxman

> >> www.celebrate4health.com

> >> www.bebabywise.com

> >> info@... <mailto:info%40celebrate4health.com>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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That's is why we're lucky to have her here. Maybe she should get the

ipod this month? ???

Reg

> >>> >

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Wister,

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> You'll have to get used to people being upset when you say

something

> >>>> >> IS what it IS. We're in a world where people feel safe

behind words

> >>>> >> like " circumcision " , " abortion " , " medicating " .. rather

than just

> >>>> >> saying what it is. Mutilating, altering, etc.. Killing

and sucking

> >>>> >> out life, etc. Drugging our children and getting them

stoned, etc..

> >>>> >> Why don't we just call a spade a spade? Because the

people involved

> >>>> >> in the actions say that when you just say what it IS that

they do,

> >>>> >> you're being judgemental.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> When my children say, " Mom!! The kids across the street

are " salting a

> >>>> >> slug! Can we have some salt? " , I reply, " What? ..OH!! You

MEAN, 'The

> >>>> >> kids across the street are pouring salt onto a slug and

torturing it,

> >>>> >> and causing pain and suffering? Can I torture it as

well?' Is that

> >>>> >> what you meant? " Their eyes open wide(see the importance

of those

> >>>> >> words), and they are suddenly shaking their heads and

saying, " No. I

> >>>> >> don't want to. "

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Truth is truth and saying exactly what something IS, is

very powerful

> >>>> >> and helps people to Awaken and pull out of their slumber,

reevaluate

> >>>> >> their actions and bring themselves to a Higher Minded

level of

> >>>> >> thinking. Constantly trying to make people cozy and

comfortable with

> >>>> >> side-stepping words keeps everyone in a state of hypnosis

and

> >>>> >> stagnance. Complacency is a dangerous thing, and keeps us

from

> >>>> >> evolving.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I can think of few things more healthy for our well-being

than always

> >>>> >> stating the facts exactly as they are, and then let us

judge ourselves

> >>>> >> according to the Truths. I insist on being blatantly

honest about

> >>>> >> every single issue with my kids. The girls tell me they

love it. For

> >>>> >> example, ..My four year old reached for some Coca-cola at

a party.

> >>>> >> She wanted me to pour it for her, pleading, " Mommy, can I

have some

> >>>> >> Coke? " I got down to her level and whispered, " You mean,

you want the

> >>>> >> drink with the chemicals and drugs? I don't think that's

the best

> >>>> >> thing for your beautiful body, hon.. " Even my four year

old knows

> >>>> >> what drugs and chemicals are, because when I feed them, I

pass them

> >>>> >> their food and say things like, " Here ya go girls! I've

got some

> >>>> >> fruit for you, with Vit. C, to help you fight off cold and

germs, and

> >>>> >> here's some beans, with protein, etc. Here's your pure

water, to keep

> >>>> >> you hydrated, ..here's your cereal, with lots of fiber to

help you

> >>>> >> poo! ;).. " They're absolutely thrilled to know the Truth

and details

> >>>> >> about everything and it helps them to make

educated/intelligent

> >>>> >> choices when I'm not with them.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I'd encourage everyone to keep your children's Eyes Open

by always

> >>>> >> being completely honest with them about everything. This

young

> >>>> >> generation is so advanced and ready for Truth. They will

help move us

> >>>> >> forward at lightning speed if we do our part and simply be

open with

> >>>> >> them. Don't drug them. Don't give them political

nonsense words.

> >>>> >> Don't white-wash even the mistakes you make. Even when I

do unhealthy

> >>>> >> things or make poor choices, I tell them that is exactly

what I'm

> >>>> >> doing, " I'm making a poor choice right now, because I'm

feeling weak,

> >>>> >> etc. " or " I did this or that, because I wasn't tuned in to

the Spirit

> >>>> >> and was behaving selfishly. "

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> I hope most can understand the importance of what I'm

saying. We want

> >>>> >> the generations to come to use the concepts of

macrobiotics, yin and

> >>>> >> yang, and spirituality through every aspect of their

lives, because it

> >>>> >> will make them healthy and FREE. We need to be respectful

of where

> >>>> >> others stand, but, a spade is a spade and it isn't being

mean to call

> >>>> >> it so.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> amy

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>

> >> Brown Waxman

> >> www.celebrate4health.com

> >> www.bebabywise.com

> >> info@... <mailto:info%40celebrate4health.com>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Food fight?

> >

<http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0N

TEwOARfc

> > wMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx?

link=ask & sid=396545367

> > > Enjoy some healthy debate

> > in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink Q.

> >

<http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0N

TEwOARfc

> > wMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx?

link=ask & sid=396545367

> > >

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Hi Klara,

If you are the only one who understands it has all been worthwhile.

Thanks,

Simon

" let her be right " - that's funny - to me it all sounds wonderful - still, I wonder if others understand.

In mb philosophy there is the concept of 7 levels of judgment - I think you're way up there on the highest level, to see the whole picture - it takes work to get up there - so the rest of us will have to work.

Klara

" Simon G. Brown " wrote:

Hi Reg,

Good to hear you can sleep!

The reason I ask is that, correct me if I am wrong, but I imagine the chance of someone changing your beliefs on food or circumcision are pretty small – non existent? Where do you stand on abortion etc?

This is human nature. So far I have never met anyone with a belief that you could talk to and he or she would give up that belief and suddenly agree. You think you are right and that’s fine – other people think they are right and you think they are wrong too – which is also fine. But don’t you ever question the point in all this. If we think in terms of right and wrong and have beliefs where does it take us if we cannot accept other people’s choices – disagreements, arguments, upsets, fights, war?

I understand you think that because you are right you should voice your opinion in the hope you will change the world, and of course so does everyone else who has chosen a belief and then we end up with millions of people shouting from the roof tops trying to persuade each other to change their strongly held beliefs. And that would be great if it was all a fun game but not many people seem to be able to play without feeling upset when faced with alternative opinions.

The reason I keep going on about this (this is the last time – I sure people are getting bored with this) is that for me it is a very similar situation to the point Wister made about people fighting for animal welfare and then going off and eating a chicken sandwich. Macrobiotics is a philosophy that also encompasses food. It is not just a diet. I perfectly understand people starting macrobiotics simple to loose weight or improve their health and I would be more than happy to support them in this without bringing up the philosophy. But after a while I would hope the more serious students and practitioners of macrobiotics would move on to explore the philosophy on which the food is based and try to at least understand it even if it is not possible to live it.

I have a slight fear that macrobiotics will get watered down to a Hollywood version where it is no more than a health food diet with a few Japanese ingredients thrown in and a little bit of yin and yang. Reg if anyone could save the integrity of the movement surely it is you. Why don’t you join and me and help us reintroduce macrobiotic philosophy to a hungry world and live the dream. In exchange I’ll let you be right on all your pet beliefs.

Love,

Simon

Simon,

I KNOW people around me think I'm nuts, I know they think how I'm

raising Marlie and the decisions I make for her future are

ridiculous. These are also the people that feel diet has nothing to

do with illness, etc. I don't really care what others think as I

have to be the one confident in my decisions for MY daughter's

future. I just had this discussion with my brother the other day,

instead of fighting with my family I've told him I refuse to defend

my child rearing ways. I just kept repeating it every time he

said " but what about........... " . It worked and I can sleep at

night. If I didn't have a man half way around the world to speak to

keeping me up half the night I'd sleep a lot better. ;)

UK time difference is so much better than 14 hours!!!! LOL

The difference between what others may view about my decisions and my

points on circ are that I am not causing my daughter physical pain by

slicing of part of her genetalia without any numbing agent.

Hugs,

R

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men who appear

to

> > have wonderful family relationships

> >

> > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented, peaceful

Jewish

> > men!

> >

> > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much healthier for the

> > proper development of the lungs.

> > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If you look

at it

> > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there for us to

> > remove as if he has faulted?

> >

> > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

boundaries

> > and having goals.

> >

> > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence shelter for many

> > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish men. The

> > largest profession? Police.

> >

> > I never said anything about helping only my country that was

someone

> > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way and

just 'let

> > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If women didn't

make

> > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right to

vote. If

> > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the blacks would

> > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >

> > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >

> > Reg

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Hi Klara,

If you are the only one who understands it has all been worthwhile.

Thanks,

Simon

" let her be right " - that's funny - to me it all sounds wonderful - still, I wonder if others understand.

In mb philosophy there is the concept of 7 levels of judgment - I think you're way up there on the highest level, to see the whole picture - it takes work to get up there - so the rest of us will have to work.

Klara

" Simon G. Brown " wrote:

Hi Reg,

Good to hear you can sleep!

The reason I ask is that, correct me if I am wrong, but I imagine the chance of someone changing your beliefs on food or circumcision are pretty small – non existent? Where do you stand on abortion etc?

This is human nature. So far I have never met anyone with a belief that you could talk to and he or she would give up that belief and suddenly agree. You think you are right and that’s fine – other people think they are right and you think they are wrong too – which is also fine. But don’t you ever question the point in all this. If we think in terms of right and wrong and have beliefs where does it take us if we cannot accept other people’s choices – disagreements, arguments, upsets, fights, war?

I understand you think that because you are right you should voice your opinion in the hope you will change the world, and of course so does everyone else who has chosen a belief and then we end up with millions of people shouting from the roof tops trying to persuade each other to change their strongly held beliefs. And that would be great if it was all a fun game but not many people seem to be able to play without feeling upset when faced with alternative opinions.

The reason I keep going on about this (this is the last time – I sure people are getting bored with this) is that for me it is a very similar situation to the point Wister made about people fighting for animal welfare and then going off and eating a chicken sandwich. Macrobiotics is a philosophy that also encompasses food. It is not just a diet. I perfectly understand people starting macrobiotics simple to loose weight or improve their health and I would be more than happy to support them in this without bringing up the philosophy. But after a while I would hope the more serious students and practitioners of macrobiotics would move on to explore the philosophy on which the food is based and try to at least understand it even if it is not possible to live it.

I have a slight fear that macrobiotics will get watered down to a Hollywood version where it is no more than a health food diet with a few Japanese ingredients thrown in and a little bit of yin and yang. Reg if anyone could save the integrity of the movement surely it is you. Why don’t you join and me and help us reintroduce macrobiotic philosophy to a hungry world and live the dream. In exchange I’ll let you be right on all your pet beliefs.

Love,

Simon

Simon,

I KNOW people around me think I'm nuts, I know they think how I'm

raising Marlie and the decisions I make for her future are

ridiculous. These are also the people that feel diet has nothing to

do with illness, etc. I don't really care what others think as I

have to be the one confident in my decisions for MY daughter's

future. I just had this discussion with my brother the other day,

instead of fighting with my family I've told him I refuse to defend

my child rearing ways. I just kept repeating it every time he

said " but what about........... " . It worked and I can sleep at

night. If I didn't have a man half way around the world to speak to

keeping me up half the night I'd sleep a lot better. ;)

UK time difference is so much better than 14 hours!!!! LOL

The difference between what others may view about my decisions and my

points on circ are that I am not causing my daughter physical pain by

slicing of part of her genetalia without any numbing agent.

Hugs,

R

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men who appear

to

> > have wonderful family relationships

> >

> > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented, peaceful

Jewish

> > men!

> >

> > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much healthier for the

> > proper development of the lungs.

> > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If you look

at it

> > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there for us to

> > remove as if he has faulted?

> >

> > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

boundaries

> > and having goals.

> >

> > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence shelter for many

> > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish men. The

> > largest profession? Police.

> >

> > I never said anything about helping only my country that was

someone

> > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way and

just 'let

> > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If women didn't

make

> > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right to

vote. If

> > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the blacks would

> > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >

> > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >

> > Reg

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My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the

bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the

buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her

things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other

Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight

passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop

culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along.

It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.

> >>>> >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men

who appear

> >>> to

> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented,

peaceful

> >>> Jewish

> >>>>> > > men!

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much

healthier for the

> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.

> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If

you look

> >>> at it

> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there

for us to

> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

> >>> boundaries

> >>>>> > > and having goals.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence

shelter for many

> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish

men. The

> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that

was

> >>> someone

> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way

and

> >>> just 'let

> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If

women didn't

> >>> make

> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right

to

> >>> vote. If

> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the

blacks would

> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Reg

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the

bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the

buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her

things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other

Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight

passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop

culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along.

It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.

> >>>> >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men

who appear

> >>> to

> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented,

peaceful

> >>> Jewish

> >>>>> > > men!

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much

healthier for the

> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.

> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If

you look

> >>> at it

> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there

for us to

> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

> >>> boundaries

> >>>>> > > and having goals.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence

shelter for many

> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish

men. The

> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that

was

> >>> someone

> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way

and

> >>> just 'let

> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If

women didn't

> >>> make

> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right

to

> >>> vote. If

> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the

blacks would

> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Reg

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the

bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the

buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her

things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other

Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight

passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop

culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along.

It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.

> >>>> >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men

who appear

> >>> to

> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented,

peaceful

> >>> Jewish

> >>>>> > > men!

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much

healthier for the

> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.

> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If

you look

> >>> at it

> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there

for us to

> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

> >>> boundaries

> >>>>> > > and having goals.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence

shelter for many

> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish

men. The

> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that

was

> >>> someone

> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way

and

> >>> just 'let

> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If

women didn't

> >>> make

> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right

to

> >>> vote. If

> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the

blacks would

> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Reg

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go

> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>

> > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>

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Re: Here it is ...the topic I've been avoiding until now!

My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along. It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.> >>>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men who appear> >>> to> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented, peaceful> >>> Jewish> >>>>> > > men!> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much healthier for the> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If you look> >>> at it> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there for us to> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having> >>> boundaries> >>>>> > > and having goals.> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence shelter for many> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish men. The> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that was> >>> someone> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way and> >>> just 'let> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If women didn't> >>> make> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right to> >>> vote. If> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the blacks would> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Reg> >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>> > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>> > > >>

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Re: Here it is ...the topic I've been avoiding until now!

My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along. It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.> >>>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men who appear> >>> to> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented, peaceful> >>> Jewish> >>>>> > > men!> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much healthier for the> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If you look> >>> at it> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there for us to> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having> >>> boundaries> >>>>> > > and having goals.> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence shelter for many> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish men. The> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that was> >>> someone> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way and> >>> just 'let> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If women didn't> >>> make> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right to> >>> vote. If> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the blacks would> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Reg> >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>> > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>> > > >>

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Re: Here it is ...the topic I've been avoiding until now!

My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along. It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.> >>>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men who appear> >>> to> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented, peaceful> >>> Jewish> >>>>> > > men!> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much healthier for the> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If you look> >>> at it> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there for us to> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having> >>> boundaries> >>>>> > > and having goals.> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence shelter for many> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish men. The> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that was> >>> someone> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way and> >>> just 'let> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If women didn't> >>> make> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right to> >>> vote. If> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the blacks would> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter> >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Reg> >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>> > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>> > > >>

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Yes Klara it is an interesting question whether to focus on the quality of the relationship or stand up for what we think is right. Some relationships can actually thrive on discussion and amicable disagreements (like R and me!) but I think these are rare and for me I would always try to put the quality of my important relationships first.

All the best,

Simon

My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the

bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the

buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her

things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other

Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight

passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop

culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along.

It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.

> >>>> >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men

who appear

> >>> to

> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented,

peaceful

> >>> Jewish

> >>>>> > > men!

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much

healthier for the

> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.

> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If

you look

> >>> at it

> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there

for us to

> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

> >>> boundaries

> >>>>> > > and having goals.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence

shelter for many

> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish

men. The

> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that

was

> >>> someone

> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way

and

> >>> just 'let

> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If

women didn't

> >>> make

> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right

to

> >>> vote. If

> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the

blacks would

> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Reg

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go

> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>

> > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>

> >

> >

>

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Yes Klara it is an interesting question whether to focus on the quality of the relationship or stand up for what we think is right. Some relationships can actually thrive on discussion and amicable disagreements (like R and me!) but I think these are rare and for me I would always try to put the quality of my important relationships first.

All the best,

Simon

My next oldest sister after me is a literalist when it comes to the

bible and a rightie in politics whereas I'm more the

buddhist/shintoist/hinduist spiritualist and a leftie. I send her

things that I read/get in email, and she sends me prayers and other

Biblical literature relevant to the moment. We used to fight

passionately about Bush, the war, various items in pop

culture, etc, etc, but now both learn and grow from getting along.

It's so much more fulfilling to accept each other for who we are.

> >>>> >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I know plenty of happy, contented, peaceful Jewish men

who appear

> >>> to

> >>>>> > > have wonderful family relationships

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > You must be kidding I don't know ANY happy contented,

peaceful

> >>> Jewish

> >>>>> > > men!

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I do prefer vaginal birth b/c it's much

healthier for the

> >>>>> > > proper development of the lungs.

> >>>>> > > Birth is something you can't prevent, circ can be. If

you look

> >>> at it

> >>>>> > > from a religious point why would G-d put foreskin there

for us to

> >>>>> > > remove as if he has faulted?

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I don't see anything wrong with having absolutes, having

> >>> boundaries

> >>>>> > > and having goals.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Actually I was a counselor at a domestic violence

shelter for many

> >>>>> > > years and statistically the most violent were Jewish

men. The

> >>>>> > > largest profession? Police.

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I never said anything about helping only my country that

was

> >>> someone

> >>>>> > > else. I don't feel I belong to one country, one universe

> >>>>> > > perhaps........ BUT I do feel if we look the other way

and

> >>> just 'let

> >>>>> > > it be' the world doesn't change for the better. If

women didn't

> >>> make

> >>>>> > > a stink 80 some odd years ago we wouldn't have the right

to

> >>> vote. If

> >>>>> > > Parks didn't refuse to get up from her seat the

blacks would

> >>>>> > > still be sitting in the back of the bus.............

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > I love you dearly but too tired to banter

> >>>>> > >

> >>>>> > > Reg

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go

> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>

> > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

> > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43910/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail>

> >

> >

>

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