Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @

[Guest guest]

It might also be that the person being spoken to is becoming either annoyed or a little angry about the posts so they stop posting trying to defuse the situation.

[Guest guest]

It might also be that the person being spoken to is becoming either annoyed or a little angry about the posts so they stop posting trying to defuse the situation.

[Guest guest]

It might also be that the person being spoken to is becoming either annoyed or a little angry about the posts so they stop posting trying to defuse the situation.

[Guest guest]

Ken wrote:

>>> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.

>

:

>>> What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?

>

>> I picked that up too, actually.

>

> And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up?

People's mood and 'tone of voice' does come through even in writing. I am

very good at picking that up. How the actual mechanism for this works, I

don't know. I just know that I'm rarely wrong. And that others usually pick

it up too.

> You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time

> typing this again.

I already did try to explain it in my next comment (the " eh " thing).

:

>>> Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with

someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored

that, eh.

>

Inger:

>> Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some

sort of resentment on your part.

>

:

> Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says " eh means

resentment, please?

In the 'tonal infliction' dictionary. I know how you meant that statement,

, even if you yourself are not aware of it.

>> As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private conversations

>> with other members.

>

> What has that got to do iwth anything?

Because of your previous sentence.

:

>>> Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?

>

>> Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).

>

> That is not an explanation in any way or form.

Yes it is. I told you which sentences I could pick up anger and resentment

from, thus replying to your question.

>>> Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!

>

>> You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken,

like " suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested

in " when all he did was post his POV on a matter.

>

> Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from.

I think not. Raven asked you to clarify this and, unless I've missed that

reply, you didn't.

>> Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done

respectfully and without attacking other members.

>

> It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?

Yes, . You did accuse Ken of a) not wanting to discuss with you in

private " suppresing specific info on AS " .

>> We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope you

>> will respect that.

>

> You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning

> someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.

*Can have* does not mean that they have to have. Ken has declined continued

conversation with you. Too bad. But there are 164 other members who might,

so don't let this deter you. Feel free to ask any question you like or

discuss any subject and I'm sure you'll get replies.

All I did was inform you of our policy so that you can continue

participating here without breaking the rules again. It is standard

procedure. Nothing odd at all.

Inger

[Guest guest]

Ken wrote:

>>> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.

>

:

>>> What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?

>

>> I picked that up too, actually.

>

> And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up?

People's mood and 'tone of voice' does come through even in writing. I am

very good at picking that up. How the actual mechanism for this works, I

don't know. I just know that I'm rarely wrong. And that others usually pick

it up too.

> You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time

> typing this again.

I already did try to explain it in my next comment (the " eh " thing).

:

>>> Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with

someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored

that, eh.

>

Inger:

>> Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some

sort of resentment on your part.

>

:

> Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says " eh means

resentment, please?

In the 'tonal infliction' dictionary. I know how you meant that statement,

, even if you yourself are not aware of it.

>> As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private conversations

>> with other members.

>

> What has that got to do iwth anything?

Because of your previous sentence.

:

>>> Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?

>

>> Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).

>

> That is not an explanation in any way or form.

Yes it is. I told you which sentences I could pick up anger and resentment

from, thus replying to your question.

>>> Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!

>

>> You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken,

like " suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested

in " when all he did was post his POV on a matter.

>

> Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from.

I think not. Raven asked you to clarify this and, unless I've missed that

reply, you didn't.

>> Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done

respectfully and without attacking other members.

>

> It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?

Yes, . You did accuse Ken of a) not wanting to discuss with you in

private " suppresing specific info on AS " .

>> We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope you

>> will respect that.

>

> You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning

> someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.

*Can have* does not mean that they have to have. Ken has declined continued

conversation with you. Too bad. But there are 164 other members who might,

so don't let this deter you. Feel free to ask any question you like or

discuss any subject and I'm sure you'll get replies.

All I did was inform you of our policy so that you can continue

participating here without breaking the rules again. It is standard

procedure. Nothing odd at all.

Inger

[Guest guest]

Ken wrote:

>>> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.

>

:

>>> What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?

>

>> I picked that up too, actually.

>

> And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up?

People's mood and 'tone of voice' does come through even in writing. I am

very good at picking that up. How the actual mechanism for this works, I

don't know. I just know that I'm rarely wrong. And that others usually pick

it up too.

> You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time

> typing this again.

I already did try to explain it in my next comment (the " eh " thing).

:

>>> Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with

someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored

that, eh.

>

Inger:

>> Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some

sort of resentment on your part.

>

:

> Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says " eh means

resentment, please?

In the 'tonal infliction' dictionary. I know how you meant that statement,

, even if you yourself are not aware of it.

>> As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private conversations

>> with other members.

>

> What has that got to do iwth anything?

Because of your previous sentence.

:

>>> Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?

>

>> Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).

>

> That is not an explanation in any way or form.

Yes it is. I told you which sentences I could pick up anger and resentment

from, thus replying to your question.

>>> Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!

>

>> You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken,

like " suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested

in " when all he did was post his POV on a matter.

>

> Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from.

I think not. Raven asked you to clarify this and, unless I've missed that

reply, you didn't.

>> Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done

respectfully and without attacking other members.

>

> It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?

Yes, . You did accuse Ken of a) not wanting to discuss with you in

private " suppresing specific info on AS " .

>> We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope you

>> will respect that.

>

> You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning

> someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.

*Can have* does not mean that they have to have. Ken has declined continued

conversation with you. Too bad. But there are 164 other members who might,

so don't let this deter you. Feel free to ask any question you like or

discuss any subject and I'm sure you'll get replies.

All I did was inform you of our policy so that you can continue

participating here without breaking the rules again. It is standard

procedure. Nothing odd at all.

Inger

[Guest guest]

Ken,

It was as much a personal observation as perception about others. Many times I have walked away from heated posts even though I would loved to have fired a few more broadsides. But as is often the case, discretion is the better part of valor.

Its interesting that we have taken almost the opposite approaches to such situations. I have preferred to stay tuned in to the situation and aware of what was happening, but learning to control my anger and channel it more constructively. Part of that is learning to allow the anger to be there but let it flow away but by not focussing on it. It usually works pretty well, except in cases of physical anger and hostility from others. That's when survival instincts kick in and I am not going to try to program that out of the way.

I'm not sure that excess testosterone has much to do with it. It is my understanding that most such problem are due to the wiring of our brains being a little different than normal. Then again, I have noticed that I may be a bit more aggressive if I have been sticking to my workouts for a couple of weeks. That's not a bad thing exactly since that aggression helps me to focus and get more things done, but it does cause some problems in that the anger is a little quicker to come to the surface.

[Guest guest]

Ken,

It was as much a personal observation as perception about others. Many times I have walked away from heated posts even though I would loved to have fired a few more broadsides. But as is often the case, discretion is the better part of valor.

Its interesting that we have taken almost the opposite approaches to such situations. I have preferred to stay tuned in to the situation and aware of what was happening, but learning to control my anger and channel it more constructively. Part of that is learning to allow the anger to be there but let it flow away but by not focussing on it. It usually works pretty well, except in cases of physical anger and hostility from others. That's when survival instincts kick in and I am not going to try to program that out of the way.

I'm not sure that excess testosterone has much to do with it. It is my understanding that most such problem are due to the wiring of our brains being a little different than normal. Then again, I have noticed that I may be a bit more aggressive if I have been sticking to my workouts for a couple of weeks. That's not a bad thing exactly since that aggression helps me to focus and get more things done, but it does cause some problems in that the anger is a little quicker to come to the surface.

[Guest guest]

Ken,

It was as much a personal observation as perception about others. Many times I have walked away from heated posts even though I would loved to have fired a few more broadsides. But as is often the case, discretion is the better part of valor.

Its interesting that we have taken almost the opposite approaches to such situations. I have preferred to stay tuned in to the situation and aware of what was happening, but learning to control my anger and channel it more constructively. Part of that is learning to allow the anger to be there but let it flow away but by not focussing on it. It usually works pretty well, except in cases of physical anger and hostility from others. That's when survival instincts kick in and I am not going to try to program that out of the way.

I'm not sure that excess testosterone has much to do with it. It is my understanding that most such problem are due to the wiring of our brains being a little different than normal. Then again, I have noticed that I may be a bit more aggressive if I have been sticking to my workouts for a couple of weeks. That's not a bad thing exactly since that aggression helps me to focus and get more things done, but it does cause some problems in that the anger is a little quicker to come to the surface.

[Guest guest]

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is

important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal

learning disorders.

e

From: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder

Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PM

To: FAMSecretSociety

Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @

I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why

they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a

way they can " relate " they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk

to people that do not understand me.

Ruth

greebohere wrote:

> That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder,

> difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still

> be an Aspie?

> (snip)

I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers

cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-)

I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and

not just talk at people.

Kind Regards,

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is

important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal

learning disorders.

e

From: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder

Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PM

To: FAMSecretSociety

Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @

I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why

they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a

way they can " relate " they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk

to people that do not understand me.

Ruth

greebohere wrote:

> That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder,

> difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still

> be an Aspie?

> (snip)

I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers

cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-)

I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and

not just talk at people.

Kind Regards,

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is

important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal

learning disorders.

e

From: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder

Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PM

To: FAMSecretSociety

Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @

I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why

they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a

way they can " relate " they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk

to people that do not understand me.

Ruth

greebohere wrote:

> That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder,

> difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still

> be an Aspie?

> (snip)

I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers

cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-)

I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and

not just talk at people.

Kind Regards,

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

" Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it

says " eh means resentment, please? "

It's not the word itself but the context in which it is said or

written that lets listeners and readers determine whether they are

picking up resentment. Of course, the words preceding and following

the word 'eh' will also offer hints as to the context in which the

word 'eh' is being used.

>: " You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and

then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to

me. "

Conversation is a two-way avenue. If the person you are attempting

to engage in the conversation does not wish to converse, then it is

not odd behaviour for them to refuse to reply. It is also not odd

for the moderator to point out that someone does not have to speak

with you -- privately or on the forum -- if they do not wish to do

so.

Aspies, like NTs, *CAN* have conversations but it takes at least

two willing participants. Please do not diss anyone here who

chooses not to respond to your posts.

Have you also considered that perhaps those who do not respond have

nothing to add at this time or are involved in their real lives to

such a degree that responding in great detail is disrespectful of

their personal situation?

Raven

[Guest guest]

" Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it

says " eh means resentment, please? "

It's not the word itself but the context in which it is said or

written that lets listeners and readers determine whether they are

picking up resentment. Of course, the words preceding and following

the word 'eh' will also offer hints as to the context in which the

word 'eh' is being used.

>: " You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and

then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to

me. "

Conversation is a two-way avenue. If the person you are attempting

to engage in the conversation does not wish to converse, then it is

not odd behaviour for them to refuse to reply. It is also not odd

for the moderator to point out that someone does not have to speak

with you -- privately or on the forum -- if they do not wish to do

so.

Aspies, like NTs, *CAN* have conversations but it takes at least

two willing participants. Please do not diss anyone here who

chooses not to respond to your posts.

Have you also considered that perhaps those who do not respond have

nothing to add at this time or are involved in their real lives to

such a degree that responding in great detail is disrespectful of

their personal situation?

Raven

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing this.", e J" wrote:

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal learning disorders.eFrom: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PMTo: FAMSecretSociety Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me.Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in

"disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, FAM Secret Society is a community based on

respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing this.", e J" wrote:

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal learning disorders.eFrom: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PMTo: FAMSecretSociety Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me.Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in

"disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, FAM Secret Society is a community based on

respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Did you send the paper? I wasn't able to open it if you did.", e J" wrote:

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal learning disorders.eFrom: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PMTo: FAMSecretSociety Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me.Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in

"disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, FAM Secret Society is a community based on

respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Did you send the paper? I wasn't able to open it if you did.", e J" wrote:

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal learning disorders.eFrom: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PMTo: FAMSecretSociety Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me.Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in

"disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, FAM Secret Society is a community based on

respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Did you send the paper? I wasn't able to open it if you did.", e J" wrote:

Ruth, I have written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and nonverbal learning disorders.eFrom: Ruth Eubanks-Snyder Sent: Fri 2/25/2005 1:19 PMTo: FAMSecretSociety Subject: Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me.Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in

"disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, FAM Secret Society is a community based on

respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I'm interested in this paper. I'd really like to read it :-)

Kind Regards,

Ruth, I have

written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is

important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and

nonverbal learning disorders.

> e

[Guest guest]

I'm interested in this paper. I'd really like to read it :-)

Kind Regards,

Ruth, I have

written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is

important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and

nonverbal learning disorders.

> e

[Guest guest]

I'm interested in this paper. I'd really like to read it :-)

Kind Regards,

Ruth, I have

written a paper on the use of metaphors. Most of the time it is

important to be careful with metaphors when dealing with humor and

nonverbal learning disorders.

> e

[Guest guest]

That' very perceptive, , I was starting to get angry, and I

really don't enjoy feeling that way. It feels turbulent, like a boat

being tossed about on high seas, like you're no longer in full control

of what think or say or do.

I am pretty much cooled down now. Normally, I don't anger easily, but

I do have certain buttons (that term again), and when they're pushed,

I'm likely to go off to some extent.

I do my meditation and other spiritual practices largely in an effort

to become more detached, in the sense of not reacting from an

emotional place when my buttons are pushed.

Maybe it's the curse of too much testosterone. Baron-Cohen thinks

autism is extreme masculinity. But that hardly explains the

level-headed, compassionate AS women here and elsewhere. I'm beginning

to suspect that AS is really distinct from autism and perhaps not part

of the spectrum.

Does anyone have any knowledge or opinions on whether mild AS (i.e.,

no truly life-disruptive manifestations) qualifies as a " shadow syndrome? "

Best,

Ken

Ken

> It might also be that the person being spoken to is becoming either

annoyed

> or a little angry about the posts so they stop posting trying to

defuse the

> situation.

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

Actually, what I described in terms of meditation and spiritual

practice amount to pretty much the same approach you are taking to

dealing with anger. I don't try to repress it, but simply to buy some

time through stepping back and witnessing myself to let the anger pass

through me and go back where it came from.

I find a similar thing with public speaking. If I'm sitting, waiting

to be introduced, and feeling terrible with the anxiety, I try to let

it pass through me rather than pushing it away. I try to remember what

a martial arts teacher once said, that anxiety is just the energy to

get the job done coming up. I've heard actors and great speakers say

that unless they feel some anxiety beforehand, they won't give a

really good performance.

I think you're probably right about AS wiring vs. testosterone.

Best,

Ken

> Ken,

>

> It was as much a personal observation as perception about others.

Many times

> I have walked away from heated posts even though I would loved to

have fired

> a few more broadsides. But as is often the case, discretion is the

better

> part of valor.

>

> Its interesting that we have taken almost the opposite approaches to

such

> situations. I have preferred to stay tuned in to the situation and

aware of what

> was happening, but learning to control my anger and channel it more

> constructively. Part of that is learning to allow the anger to be

there but let it

> flow away but by not focussing on it. It usually works pretty well,

except in

> cases of physical anger and hostility from others. That's when

survival

> instincts kick in and I am not going to try to program that out of

the way.

>

> I'm not sure that excess testosterone has much to do with it. It is my

> understanding that most such problem are due to the wiring of our

brains being a

> little different than normal. Then again, I have noticed that I may

be a bit

> more aggressive if I have been sticking to my workouts for a couple

of weeks.

> That's not a bad thing exactly since that aggression helps me to

focus and get

> more things done, but it does cause some problems in that the anger

is a

> little quicker to come to the surface.

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

>>People's mood and 'tone of voice' does come through even in writing.

>I am very good at picking that up. How the actual mechanism for this

>works, I don't know. I just know that I'm rarely wrong. And that

>others usually pick it up too.

> Well this is one of those rare times Inger. You were wrong. I wish

you could teach me how to get it right, how to see the same words

everyone else uses, but pick up the 'voice' in the writing.

I don't know if that can be taught. It can be developed I'm sure, but I

don't know how to specifically go about it.

Inger:

>>>> Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of

>>>> resentment on your part.

>

:

>>> Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says " eh means resentment,

>>> please?

>

>> In the 'tonal infliction' dictionary. I know how you meant that

>> statement, , even if you yourself are not aware of it.

>

> Eh, What is 'tonal infliction'? And does " eh " always translate as

> resentment?

No, but when you use it like that at the end of a sentence.

> And is that your personal dictionary or can other people read theirs a

> different way? Oh, YOUR more aware of my meaning than ME myself. Really!

The resentment was pretty obvious to me, . Are you telling me you

weren't feeling any at all? What were you feeling then?

>>>> As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private

>>>> conversations with other members.

>

>>> What has that got to do iwth anything?

>

>> Because of your previous sentence.

>

>Eh, what previous sentence, " tell me what dictionary? " You've lost me.

This was the sentence we were discussing: " Well I wanted to respect your

privacy by making contact with

someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that,

eh. "

So of course that's got everything to do with it!

:

>>>>> Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?

Inger:

>>>> Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).

:

>>> That is not an explanation in any way or form.

Inger:

> Yes it is. I told you which sentences I could pick up anger and resentment

> from, thus replying to your question.

> That's a reply not an EXPLANATION, just saying it is so according to

Inger. I've already questioned it above, your personal assertion is

no proof. If you want to make a judgement (as moderator) that is up

to you.

Let's leave it up to Tom, the administrator, to decide then, shall we?

>>>> Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done

>>>> respectfully and without attacking other members.

>

>>> It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?

>

>> Yes, . You did accuse Ken of a) not wanting to discuss with

you in private " suppresing specific info on AS " .

>

> Notice how you have already come down from attacked to accused.

I did not accuse according to my use of the word, " accuse " .

Specially not in the way you and Ken are *accusing* me of being

ANGRY and RESENTFUL.

> Listen to yourself: how can I accuse someone of something they have

themselves stated to be the case?

Sorry, let me specify that statement into two, then:

2. You DID accuse him of 'suppressing information'.

3. After Ken - understandably - declined to continue the converstation with

you under such hostile premises, you did seem resentful and seemed to be

demanding that he oblige you. All I did was to point out that he doesn't

have to. You are always free to ask for what you want, but you have no right

to demand it. Everyone here is participating of their own free will.

> " Suppressing " was just my perhaps Aspie, idiosyncratic or 'little

professor' way of saying with all your medical BACKGROUND why not

speak on the aspects of AS literature to which I originally

referred. I've clarified this more than once.

I have now searched all your posts in my inbox and I can find no

clarification of this. But this explanation will suffice. Glad to finally

find out what you meant.

>>> You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then

>>warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.

>

>>*Can have* does not mean that they have to have.

>Ken has declined continued conversation with you. Too bad. But there

>are 164 other members who might, so don't let this deter you. Feel

>free to ask any question you like or discuss any subject and I'm

>sure you'll get replies.

> Do you think I am still concerned with and only talking about Ken, Inger?

I suspected you might be since you seem to have been a bit obsessive about

him. But possibly you meant ME in that mail? It aways helps when you just

say straight out what you mean. That leaves less room for misinterpretation.

I really do apologize for not seeing your requests for explanation of the

test scores. The reason for it is that I have my inbox set so as to sort

messages in threads, and sometimes when people post something on an earlier

thread I don't see it if I don't scroll back up far enough. I really am

sorry about that. I think it is rude to ignore other people's posts, and

would never do so deliberately.

However, if you wanted an explanation for the score, that page had the

following text printed right above the test:

" Psychologist Simon Baron-Cohen and his colleagues at Cambridge's Autism

Research Centre have created the Autism-Spectrum Quotient, or AQ, as a

measure of the extent of autistic traits in adults. In the first major trial

using the test, the average score in the control group was 16.4. Eighty

percent of those diagnosed with autism or a related disorder scored 32 or

higher. The test is not a means for making a diagnosis, however, and many

who score above 32 and even meet the diagnostic criteria for mild autism or

Asperger's report no difficulty functioning in their everyday lives. "

> Why do think in other threads I mentioned monologues and such

like?

I have no idea.

> The conversation never really started. Just two voices

crossing but not meeting. I don't know who else can't see that I am

having discussions with others already. So this helpful advice is redundant.

Good then.

>> All I did was inform you of our policy so that you can continue

participating here without breaking the rules again. It is standard

procedure. Nothing odd at all.

> Again?! As you have no doubt read above, I don't see what rule I have

> broken.

Let's let Tom decide then. Perhaps I've been a bit too hard on you. If he

thinks I have, then I'm sure he'll let me know.

Meanwhile, how about we get back to the conversation? Misunderstandings can

easily happen before people get to know each other well enough.

Inger