Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Please note: Hans Asperger believed that it takes a dash of autism to be good in the scientific fields and the artistic fields (Klin, Volkmar, & Sparrow, 2000). As Raven so elequently put, science and art both require a creative sense, perhaps even a sense of wonderment about the world around us that autism seems to supply. I don't know how many of you did this but I drove my parents crazy as a child because I always wanted to know more (my favorite question was why?). The more I watch other people the more I realize that most people quit asking questions way too early! We may drive others and ourselves a little crazy at times but this can be viewed as a bonus for us! We discover worlds of understanding through questioning. And , we do listen. How else would we discover the answers to our questions? Smile! e " Well, that is one one things I'm here to find out. > Can Aspies listen, as well as speak out about what they feel > strongly about? " > > Why wouldn't we? After all, we're intelligent, capable beings with > the ability to question, the ability to extrapolate information, and > the ability to make our own minds up when presented with known facts > at hand. How would being an Aspie interfere with listening and > speaking on a variety of topics? > > Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Please note: Hans Asperger believed that it takes a dash of autism to be good in the scientific fields and the artistic fields (Klin, Volkmar, & Sparrow, 2000). As Raven so elequently put, science and art both require a creative sense, perhaps even a sense of wonderment about the world around us that autism seems to supply. I don't know how many of you did this but I drove my parents crazy as a child because I always wanted to know more (my favorite question was why?). The more I watch other people the more I realize that most people quit asking questions way too early! We may drive others and ourselves a little crazy at times but this can be viewed as a bonus for us! We discover worlds of understanding through questioning. And , we do listen. How else would we discover the answers to our questions? Smile! e " Well, that is one one things I'm here to find out. > Can Aspies listen, as well as speak out about what they feel > strongly about? " > > Why wouldn't we? After all, we're intelligent, capable beings with > the ability to question, the ability to extrapolate information, and > the ability to make our own minds up when presented with known facts > at hand. How would being an Aspie interfere with listening and > speaking on a variety of topics? > > Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 " Well, that is one one things I'm here to find out. Can Aspies listen, as well as speak out about what they feel strongly about? " >Why wouldn't we? After all, we're intelligent, capable beings with >the ability to question, the ability to extrapolate information, and >the ability to make our own minds up when presented with known facts >at hand. How would being an Aspie interfere with listening and >speaking on a variety of topics? > >Raven I hope Ken is taking note, and any other Aspies who struggle in the ability to continue to communicate beyond monologue (communicating at others instead of with) or as 'little professors'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 >(snip) > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 >(snip) > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie? > (snip) I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people. Kind Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 " Funny, I generally think of *science* as logical. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 " Funny, I generally think of *science* as logical. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 > I appreicate if you are busy Inger but I mentioned my score of 34 out of > 50 in same thread as the one as you gave them to me in. Oh, my apologies, I must have missed that post. (My mailbox is sort of overflowing at the moment so that can happen sometimes.) > BTW, I've been around Aspies for nearly 2 years I see. Then I hope you will have noticed that most Aspies are indeed capable of having conversations and understanding figures of speech? Inger > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > > be an Aspie? > > : > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and > not just talk at people. > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you want. > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > Inger FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 > I appreicate if you are busy Inger but I mentioned my score of 34 out of > 50 in same thread as the one as you gave them to me in. Oh, my apologies, I must have missed that post. (My mailbox is sort of overflowing at the moment so that can happen sometimes.) > BTW, I've been around Aspies for nearly 2 years I see. Then I hope you will have noticed that most Aspies are indeed capable of having conversations and understanding figures of speech? Inger > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > > be an Aspie? > > : > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and > not just talk at people. > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you want. > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > Inger FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Ken wrote: >> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry. : > What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up? I picked that up too, actually. Ken: >> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing >> to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you >> thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know >> what is going on here. : > Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I > have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh. Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private conversations with other members. : > Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment? Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts). > Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken! You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like " suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in " when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done respectfully and without attacking other members. We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope you will respect that. Inger, as Moderator again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me. Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in "disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie?> (snip)I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-)I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people.Kind Regards,FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Hi Inger, Just want to let you know how much I can learn from you when it comes to figure out communication and keep conversations open. Thank you! Lida Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ Ken wrote:>> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.:> What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?I picked that up too, actually.Ken:>> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing >> to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you >> thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know >> what is going on here.:> Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I > have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh.Adding that "eh" at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private conversations with other members.:> Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).> Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like "suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in" when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done respectfully and without attacking other members. We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope you will respect that.Inger, as Moderator againFAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Hi Inger, Just want to let you know how much I can learn from you when it comes to figure out communication and keep conversations open. Thank you! Lida Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ Ken wrote:>> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.:> What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?I picked that up too, actually.Ken:>> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing >> to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you >> thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know >> what is going on here.:> Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I > have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh.Adding that "eh" at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept private conversations with other members.:> Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).> Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like "suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in" when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done respectfully and without attacking other members. We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope you will respect that.Inger, as Moderator againFAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I am great at metaphores, because it goes with the ability of picturing, visualizing things. And I sure am aspie : ) Lida Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me. Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in "disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie?> (snip)I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-)I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people.Kind Regards,FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I am great at metaphores, because it goes with the ability of picturing, visualizing things. And I sure am aspie : ) Lida Re: Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ I have heard that AS individuals don't understand metaphores and that is why they do not use them and the same goes for analogy. But if it is explained in a way they can "relate" they can understand and use them. I often use them to talk to people that do not understand me. Ruthgreebohere wrote: > That is an analogy of what has happened in "disease, disorder, > difference" thread. Can someone use figurative language, and still > be an Aspie?> (snip)I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with Aspergers cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-)I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations and not just talk at people.Kind Regards,FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Yes, and some in this group are having difficult having conversations and responding to speech. This is the factor of higher verbal intelligence than performance intelligence found among those with AS. Why are peoplee saying they want to dicuss things or asking me questions and then they do not reply or answer the question? WHAT DOES MY SCORE OF 34 OUT OF 50 MEAN PLEASE? . > > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and > still > > > be an Aspie? > > > > : > > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with > Aspergers > > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations > and > > not just talk at people. > > > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I > think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the > stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is > really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you > want. > > > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and > get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical > Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > > > Inger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Yes, and some in this group are having difficult having conversations and responding to speech. This is the factor of higher verbal intelligence than performance intelligence found among those with AS. Why are peoplee saying they want to dicuss things or asking me questions and then they do not reply or answer the question? WHAT DOES MY SCORE OF 34 OUT OF 50 MEAN PLEASE? . > > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and > still > > > be an Aspie? > > > > : > > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with > Aspergers > > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations > and > > not just talk at people. > > > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I > think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the > stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is > really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you > want. > > > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and > get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical > Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > > > Inger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 > >> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry. > > : > > What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up? > > I picked that up too, actually. And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up? You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time typing this again. > >Ken: > >> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know what is going on here. > > : > > Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh. > > > Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says " eh means resentment, please? As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept > private conversations with other members. What hasthat got to do iwth anything? > : > > Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment? > > Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts). That is not an explanation in any way or form. > > Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken! > > You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like " suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in " when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from. >Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done >respectfully and without attacking other members. It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked? >We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope >you will respect that. You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 > >> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry. > > : > > What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up? > > I picked that up too, actually. And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up? You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time typing this again. > >Ken: > >> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know what is going on here. > > : > > Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh. > > > Adding that " eh " at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says " eh means resentment, please? As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept > private conversations with other members. What hasthat got to do iwth anything? > : > > Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment? > > Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts). That is not an explanation in any way or form. > > Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken! > > You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like " suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in " when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from. >Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done >respectfully and without attacking other members. It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked? >We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope >you will respect that. You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 , You wrote: You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me. My concept of a conversation is that the different parties involved read/listen carefully to each other, try to figure out if they understood the other and than answer questions, bring in a (new) point of view and/or ask a question. And so on. Persons involved in a conversation do this with the purpose of interest: as long as there is an interest, they participate. I read your attemps to understand other parties involved in your 'conversation' here on the forum and I read them on the other partners in this conversation as well. Looking from the outside, it seems to me that most of the parties involved do more or less understand each other, but that you do not feel understood and every now and than don't understand the others. Your tone of voice (writing) is rather 'hard', it seems to contain judgements about the others. But I don't read judgements in the post of the others. In their posts towards you they have more a 'wondering' tone of voice, which makes me think they try to understand what you want to say and check with you if they understood you. Maybe your concept of a conversation is different than the one I use. In my humble opinion you seem to be more in a monologue than in a conversation. Lida Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ > >> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.> > :> > What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?> > I picked that up too, actually.And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up?You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time typing this again.> >Ken:> >> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know what is going on here.> > :> > Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh.> > > Adding that "eh" at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says "eh means resentment, please?As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept > private conversations with other members.What hasthat got to do iwth anything?> :> > Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?> > Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).That is not an explanation in any way or form.> > Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!> > You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like "suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in" when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from.>Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done >respectfully and without attacking other members. It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?>We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope >you will respect that.You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 , You wrote: You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me. My concept of a conversation is that the different parties involved read/listen carefully to each other, try to figure out if they understood the other and than answer questions, bring in a (new) point of view and/or ask a question. And so on. Persons involved in a conversation do this with the purpose of interest: as long as there is an interest, they participate. I read your attemps to understand other parties involved in your 'conversation' here on the forum and I read them on the other partners in this conversation as well. Looking from the outside, it seems to me that most of the parties involved do more or less understand each other, but that you do not feel understood and every now and than don't understand the others. Your tone of voice (writing) is rather 'hard', it seems to contain judgements about the others. But I don't read judgements in the post of the others. In their posts towards you they have more a 'wondering' tone of voice, which makes me think they try to understand what you want to say and check with you if they understood you. Maybe your concept of a conversation is different than the one I use. In my humble opinion you seem to be more in a monologue than in a conversation. Lida Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ > >> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.> > :> > What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?> > I picked that up too, actually.And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up?You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time typing this again.> >Ken:> >> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know what is going on here.> > :> > Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh.> > > Adding that "eh" at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says "eh means resentment, please?As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept > private conversations with other members.What hasthat got to do iwth anything?> :> > Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?> > Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).That is not an explanation in any way or form.> > Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!> > You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like "suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in" when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from.>Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done >respectfully and without attacking other members. It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?>We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope >you will respect that.You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 , You wrote: You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me. My concept of a conversation is that the different parties involved read/listen carefully to each other, try to figure out if they understood the other and than answer questions, bring in a (new) point of view and/or ask a question. And so on. Persons involved in a conversation do this with the purpose of interest: as long as there is an interest, they participate. I read your attemps to understand other parties involved in your 'conversation' here on the forum and I read them on the other partners in this conversation as well. Looking from the outside, it seems to me that most of the parties involved do more or less understand each other, but that you do not feel understood and every now and than don't understand the others. Your tone of voice (writing) is rather 'hard', it seems to contain judgements about the others. But I don't read judgements in the post of the others. In their posts towards you they have more a 'wondering' tone of voice, which makes me think they try to understand what you want to say and check with you if they understood you. Maybe your concept of a conversation is different than the one I use. In my humble opinion you seem to be more in a monologue than in a conversation. Lida Re: Difficulty understanding your posts @ > >> What I am picking up from your post is that you are angry.> > :> > What makes you think I am angry? How are you picking that up?> > I picked that up too, actually.And I ask you Inger, what exactly is it and how do pick that up?You already saw the question to Ken and could have saved me the time typing this again.> >Ken:> >> I don't think I did anything to offend you, other than perhaps refusing to deal with you offline. You mentioned in one of your posts that you thought you knew me from the past or some such thing. I'd like to know what is going on here.> > :> > Well I wanted to respect your privacy by making contact with someone who I have a mutual acquaintance with, but you just ignored that, eh.> > > Adding that "eh" at the end of that sentence does indicate some sort of resentment on your part. Tell me in what dictionary or grammar book it says "eh means resentment, please?As I explained, no member her is obliged to accept > private conversations with other members.What hasthat got to do iwth anything?> :> > Can you tell me where my tone is full of anger and resentment?> > Previous sentence and next sentence (as well as earlier posts).That is not an explanation in any way or form.> > Save it for someone who cares a jott, Ken!> > You did start out by making rather bizarre accusations against Ken, like "suppressing specific info on AS, the group might be interested in" when all he did was post his POV on a matter. Bizarre, I think others understood where I was coming from.>Everyone is free to post a contrary POV, as long at it is done >respectfully and without attacking other members. It is not about contrary POV at all, no-one has been attacked?>We have a very strict policy against personal attacks here. I hope >you will respect that.You see stating that Aspies can HAVE A CONVERSATION and then warning someone who can have a conversation is odd behaviour to me.FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 : > Yes, and some in this group are having difficult having conversations and > responding to speech. This is the factor of higher verbal intelligence > than performance intelligence found among those with AS. It could also be a factor of preferring to discuss things only with those who do not post bizarre accusations after only one exchange. > Why are people saying they want to dicuss things or asking me questions and then they do not reply or answer the question? I guess that depends on how respectfully you ask the question. > WHAT DOES MY SCORE OF 34 OUT OF 50 MEAN PLEASE? No need to use capitals, as this is the the online equivlent of raising your voice. If I remember correctly, it is an indication that you are in the Aspie range. I think it said so on that page. I am not responsible for that particular test, only the longer 100 question one (which I am currently working on improving). Inger > > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and > still > > > be an Aspie? > > > > : > > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with > Aspergers > > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations > and > > not just talk at people. > > > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I > think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the > stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is > really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you > want. > > > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and > get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical > Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > > > Inger > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 : > Yes, and some in this group are having difficult having conversations and > responding to speech. This is the factor of higher verbal intelligence > than performance intelligence found among those with AS. It could also be a factor of preferring to discuss things only with those who do not post bizarre accusations after only one exchange. > Why are people saying they want to dicuss things or asking me questions and then they do not reply or answer the question? I guess that depends on how respectfully you ask the question. > WHAT DOES MY SCORE OF 34 OUT OF 50 MEAN PLEASE? No need to use capitals, as this is the the online equivlent of raising your voice. If I remember correctly, it is an indication that you are in the Aspie range. I think it said so on that page. I am not responsible for that particular test, only the longer 100 question one (which I am currently working on improving). Inger > > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and > still > > > be an Aspie? > > > > : > > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with > Aspergers > > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations > and > > not just talk at people. > > > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I > think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the > stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is > really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you > want. > > > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and > get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical > Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > > > Inger > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 : > Yes, and some in this group are having difficult having conversations and > responding to speech. This is the factor of higher verbal intelligence > than performance intelligence found among those with AS. It could also be a factor of preferring to discuss things only with those who do not post bizarre accusations after only one exchange. > Why are people saying they want to dicuss things or asking me questions and then they do not reply or answer the question? I guess that depends on how respectfully you ask the question. > WHAT DOES MY SCORE OF 34 OUT OF 50 MEAN PLEASE? No need to use capitals, as this is the the online equivlent of raising your voice. If I remember correctly, it is an indication that you are in the Aspie range. I think it said so on that page. I am not responsible for that particular test, only the longer 100 question one (which I am currently working on improving). Inger > > > That is an analogy of what has happened in " disease, disorder, > > > difference " thread. Can someone use figurative language, and > still > > > be an Aspie? > > > > : > > > I believe yes - I have heard that supposedly people with > Aspergers > > cannot use metaphors, but I know some that do :-) > > > > I also believe that people with Aspergers can have conversations > and > > not just talk at people. > > > > Absolutely! If you hang around other Aspies for a while, , I > think you'll find that most of us Aspies do not quite fit the > stereotype of the typical Aspie. So, if you want to know what AS is > really like, from other Aspies, feel free to ask any question you > want. > > > > Perhaps you'd like to give more of a description of yourself and > get some feedback on which (if any) traits we recognise as typical > Aspie traits, for example? (Only a suggestion, of course.) > > > > Did you do any of the online tests I posted links to? > > > > Inger > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.