Re: Beds

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/2007 12:40:03 AM GMT Standard Time,

sandreas41@... writes:

I have a Select Comfort.

Be aware, the bed itself is excellent, but they have unfortunately gone

to a wireless control, from the air pump controller to the hand control.

Fortunately, it is fine after unplugging it and removing the battery

from the remote.

But while it is on, it is best wrapped inside some shielding. If you get

my drift...

UK writes -

As an ESser its got to be any error of judgement to select a bed with any

electrics attached to it ! As for wrapping yourself in sheilding, I am sure it

would require earthing and also most sheilding will wearout and also react

to chemicals on skin and so oxidise when worn against the body. It also

strikes me that if the material is touching the skin it is loosing a

significant

amount of its ability to sheild ?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It seems what I wrote was confusing.

I'll describe some more:

To inflate the bed, the pump unit gets plugged into the wall, and a

battery in the remote.

They start talking to each other, with the pump constantly telling the

remote the current pressure.

The remote has a display to show the current pressure.

I press up or down to get my desired level of softness/hardness.

For the next several minutes of inflation, I have the pump wrapped in

grounded shielding, not me.

And I flee to the other end of the house.

When it is done, I unplug the pump from the wall, and remove the battery

from the remote.

After this point, the bed is plugged into nothing electronic.

And it holds it's pressure for months. It has been over a year in fact.

Is that clearer?

paulpjc@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 3/15/2007 12:40:03 AM GMT Standard Time,

> sandreas41@... writes:

>

> I have a Select Comfort.

>

> Be aware, the bed itself is excellent, but they have unfortunately gone

> to a wireless control, from the air pump controller to the hand control.

>

> Fortunately, it is fine after unplugging it and removing the battery

> from the remote.

> But while it is on, it is best wrapped inside some shielding. If you get

> my drift...

>

>

>

>

> UK writes -

>

> As an ESser its got to be any error of judgement to select a bed with any

> electrics attached to it ! As for wrapping yourself in sheilding, I am sure

it

> would require earthing and also most sheilding will wearout and also react

> to chemicals on skin and so oxidise when worn against the body. It also

> strikes me that if the material is touching the skin it is loosing a

significant

> amount of its ability to sheild ?

>

>

[Guest guest]

you cant get those beds in the uk

On 15 Mar 2007, at 16:38, S. son wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> It seems what I wrote was confusing.

>

> I'll describe some more:

> To inflate the bed, the pump unit gets plugged into the wall, and a

> battery in the remote.

> They start talking to each other, with the pump constantly telling the

> remote the current pressure.

> The remote has a display to show the current pressure.

>

> I press up or down to get my desired level of softness/hardness.

>

> For the next several minutes of inflation, I have the pump wrapped in

> grounded shielding, not me.

> And I flee to the other end of the house.

>

> When it is done, I unplug the pump from the wall, and remove the

> battery

> from the remote.

>

> After this point, the bed is plugged into nothing electronic.

> And it holds it's pressure for months. It has been over a year in

> fact.

>

> Is that clearer?

>

>

>

> paulpjc@... wrote:

> >

> > In a message dated 3/15/2007 12:40:03 AM GMT Standard Time,

> > sandreas41@... writes:

> >

> > I have a Select Comfort.

> >

> > Be aware, the bed itself is excellent, but they have unfortunately

> gone

> > to a wireless control, from the air pump controller to the hand

> control.

> >

> > Fortunately, it is fine after unplugging it and removing the battery

> > from the remote.

> > But while it is on, it is best wrapped inside some shielding. If

> you get

> > my drift...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > UK writes -

> >

> > As an ESser its got to be any error of judgement to select a bed

> with any

> > electrics attached to it ! As for wrapping yourself in sheilding, I

> am sure it

> > would require earthing and also most sheilding will wearout and

> also react

> > to chemicals on skin and so oxidise when worn against the body. It

> also

> > strikes me that if the material is touching the skin it is loosing

> a significant

> > amount of its ability to sheild ?

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/2007 5:14:53 PM GMT Standard Time,

robbo@... writes:

> Hi ,

>

> It seems what I wrote was confusing.

>

> I'll describe some more:

> To inflate the bed, the pump unit gets plugged into the wall, and a

> battery in the remote.

> They start talking to each other, with the pump constantly telling the

> remote the current pressure.

> The remote has a display to show the current pressure.

>

> I press up or down to get my desired level of softness/hardness.

>

> For the next several minutes of inflation, I have the pump wrapped in

> grounded shielding, not me.

> And I flee to the other end of the house.

PAUL UK REPLIES -

Phew thats better and amusing to boot - Regards UK

[Guest guest]

PickPinkFlowers wrote:

> Where have you found all wood beds?

We found ours at one of the local furniture stores.

Note that I really did NOT notice any problem from

our old metal bed, nor did I notice any improvement

from the wood bed. In fact, for the first few weeks,

the wood bed was more of a problem because of the

offgassing of the finish.

The wood bed looks nicer, though... :-)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Note that I really did NOT notice any problem from

our old metal bed, nor did I notice any improvement

from the wood bed. In fact, for the first few weeks,

the wood bed was more of a problem because of the

offgassing of the finish.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks. I had thought about the finish on the wood

and wondered if it would pose a problem. I have MCS; in fact, I am

housebound because of illnesses, and I spend a lot

of time in bed. I can't afford to deal with a new wood bed.

Josie

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Good topic! I roll over alot plus I need firmness for my back. So

beds are very important to me. Earlier this year I replaced a

wonderful, but needing-to-be-replaced Beauty Rest Firm ( it had

lasted 10 years, which is about all it's life)

I purchased a Stress-O-Pedic Extra Firm in March. Three weeks later,

this bed started to sag in the middle so bad, I could not sleep on

it. I tried to exchange it/return it (supposedly on a 20 year

warranty), went round and round with the merchant, my credit card, a

manufacturers inspection scheduled, then cancelled, and more. Long

story short, this bed was defective, and I got rid of it. (I will

see the merchant in small claims court early in 2008)

So I went bed shopping again. Found a wonderful bed - shopping for

beds was sort of funny - no, this one is too soft, this one is too

hard, no this one is just right, I felt like Goldilocks, lol

I finally purchased a Spring Air Firm that is wonderful, since it is

so new, about every 6-8 weeks, it gets rotated head to toe for the

first year (or so the 'care handbook' for it says. This winter, I

put a down featherbed on top of it, which sort of softens it, plus

helps to retain warmth.

Shop around and try lots of beds. I looked at several others

seriously, especially the Tempurpedic one, which I was considering

for awhile, but thought it might be too soft - it was an odd feeling, sort of

squishy, but felt good at the same time. Almost went on a 20 day in-home trial

on one at the time, but I had such a horrible experience with the Stress O Pedic

bed, I just wanted this " simple purchase " to be over and I needed some rest!

http://www.tempurpedic.com/

I'm very happy with the Spring Air and very comfortable on it, along

with the featherbed this winter. I got the featherbed from The Company Store

http://www.thecompanystore.com but have seen them at Macy's and Linens & Things

too.

I hope this is helpful.

Gretchen

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I too some nights have pain lying on one side, the pain is mainly

concentrated in the hip area and is not always helped by rolling over. Although

sometimes it does lessen it.

As for the Select Comfort bed, one time I was considering it, but when I read

the " fine print " it stated that some of the beds are reconditioned. That scared

me because of bacteria and such. I know some mattresses are sold this way but

if they are not reconditioned properly it can cause a whole new set of problems.

So although I cannot comment on the bed itself I thought I would pass this

information on. Good luck to you!

Teri

[Guest guest]

,

I too have the same issue, but our mattress is only 3 years old and a King, so I

may just suffer a little longer. My problem is that in order for me to roll over

in bed, I literally have to sit up and move I guess because my hips and core

muscles are so weak and because the bed is too soft, I fall into it!

Jackie

[Guest guest]

,

Well I use a body pillow and rest my back on it while I sleep, it helps alot.

Ron

[Guest guest]

,

I don't have CMT but I hate my Tempurpedic. It was too hard at first but then

the part you sleep on gets softer. If you roll to another place, it is hard;

the colder the room, the harder the mattress. Your body heat is absorbed and

refleted back to you. Even in a very old room, I can suffer from heat. In the

summer it is way too hot. It is an overpriced piece of hard foam.

What about a good old fashioned water bed? You would have to determine if you

could become accustomed to the wave motion, but you might hurt less.

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Elinor

[Guest guest]

Beds............I have a Sealy --top of the line (without the pillow top). This

one has some little layer of memory foam on the top which causes a little dent

here and there, but OH so good! Also, husband can get in and out of bed and the

dreamland is not rocked.

Anyone considering a Memory Foam- type mattress...........they SAG, they and are

HOT, otherwise, if you don't mind this they are great for people that hurt.

The sag in it forms to your body and will retain that when the bed is made (who

makes them?). At the showroom look at the one on display.......you will see

where people have continually sat on it. (unless they sell the floor model)

I have been told by two owners that the mattress is hotter than they can

stand.....great for hurts, but in the summer time.......TOO HOT. They retain

your body heat. If you got hot flashes...forget this one!

As for the Air beds.........expensive is the only problem I have heard on this

one.

Genieworks

[Guest guest]

Hi -

You may not have to resort to purchasing a new mattress if yours is

relatively new.

The problem of having to turn over and over because of the achy body

is something that my son deals with (my CMTER)and is also something

I deal with because of 2 bad hips and legs. He has found that

sleeping with a body pillow (a really long pillow) that he puts

between his knees and then hugs has helped ease the achiness that

develops after laying in one position for too long. I started to do

the same thing and it has helped me tremendously. He also takes his

Zanaflex (for muscle spasms) only at night which has helped ease his

restlessness in bed.

A spritz of lavender on the pillow is soothing too!

Good Luck!

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody!!!

This issue of the beds is a very big problem for me. I can not roll on myself

and I sleep all night on my right side only. At the morning I have pain in my

hips, knees and sometimes in my feet. This is tolerable because when I sit the

pain passes. The real problem is that the skin of my right hip hurts, never

healing and sometimes it bleeds and it is very painful.

I had proved almost all the alternatives: no clothes, an anti-eschar pillow (but

it was terrible for my hips), creams of all kind, and medicinal plants, but

nothing is useful. My final alternative is sleep the less as possible, three or

four hours maximun, but it was not a solution, because without sleep the wounds

don´t healing.

Does somebody have this problem? Better does somebody know a solution? I'm

afraid of an infection.

Thank you

[Guest guest]

I love my Sleep Comfort bed! I've had it for 10 years, after I had a

tentative diagnosis of CMT. We have the dual mattress (my DH likes his

side kind of soft; I like my side firm). We have developed a small

leak in one of the mattresses, which is a problem now that we live in

Canada (can't get parts up here, just the whole kit-and-kaboodle; we

couldn't even get just the remote, which we thought we lost when we

first moved here [fortunately we found it].

I like that I can keep it as hard or as soft as I like/need. When we

first got it, the only pain I was having was leg and foot cramps. Now

I have developed a lot of hip pain. I find that I have to keep the

mattress really firm, or else my hip pain wakes me at night.

They are expensive, but for me, it is well worth it. (And for my

sister-in-law [lupus] and my in-laws.)

[Guest guest]

This may be TOTALLY OFF BASE, but I will offer it anyway.

I couldn't sleep through the night without getting up to pee two or

three times. At my age I immediately had ideas of prostate issues.

I then took a sleep test and was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I was

thrilled because I could get Provigil and insurance would pay. I

started using a CPAP machine and suddenly my prostate suddenly shrank!

Actually what really happened was with the CPAP,I was sleeping through

the night. No nocturnal trips to the bathroom.

Before CPAP, I was waking up from episodes of apnea and needed an

excuse. The easiest culprit was a semi-full bladder.

What I an getting at is maybe some of the awakenings described are not

actually from pain, but an episode of apnea.

I recommend that anyone that experience multiple episodes of awakening

should take a sleep test. Maybe a CPAP may bring the remarkable deep

sleep I have every night.

--Larry

[Guest guest]

I have the mattress problem too. I use a bunch of leg, foot and knee pillows on

any given night. It helps me a lot.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I don't have this problem, but I'm so sorry to hear you are suffering with these

pressure sores. Just reading about this caused me great concern. Have

consulted with your doctor? Wounds that don't heal can be very serious.

My grandmother has pressure sores and I've seen the nurses apply special wound

care bandages and change them frequently. I believe that having these sores

uncovered and directly on the bed is not a good idea, but you really should get

a doctor's recommendation for a treatment plan. You should also tell your

doctor about your sleeping difficulty. Sleeping less than 3-4 hours at a time

can create serious issues for you as well.

There are a few other things that I've observed with my grandmother that may be

of help. A firmer mattress may allow you to 'fall' to other positions with your

body weight. If your mattress allows you to sink in, it makes it more difficult

to lift your body out of the 'hole' and move to another position. An eggcrate

foam mattress pad may also help. This is designed to reduce pressure points and

help relieve pressure sores. I also noticed that with my grandmother, the

nurses put something that resembles fur under her bandaged sore areas, something

like sheepskin, it's thick, but not too thick to move on. Depending on your

strength level, renting a hospital bed or even installing a sidebar on side of

your bed may help. It can give you something to pull on to change positions.

If this doesn't work, perhaps a triangular lift bar over your bed may work.

Hospital beds have these so you can lift yourself into different positions.

Hospital beds can be rented on a monthly basis until you are healed.

Please check with your physician soon. Many of the the above items would be

considered medically necessary items if you have bed sores, which means your

doctor should be able to prescribe them and they should be covered by your

insurance company.

In addition, if you are wheelchair bound and unable to care properly for your

wound yourself, your doctor should also be able to order a visiting nurse to

come to your home to change the dressing until the wound is healed.

If you live in the US, you have insurance coverage, and you encounter problems

getting these items covered, please post the issue and we will try to help.

[Guest guest]

Did anyone suggest a pillow between the legs if you are a side sleeper or under

the legs if you are a back sleeper? I learned to do that with my first

pregnancy 31 years ago and haven't stopped since. It is supposed to help with

low back pain.

Elinor

[Guest guest]

,

We ordered a new set of mattress a few months ago. It was an

expensive set of Pillow Top from Sealy. After a month we noticed that one side

of the bed had broken down and a dip became visible. We had the store

representative come out and check it out. He said that we had 30 days to

replace it from the time of purchase if we didn't like it. That 30 days were up

so it would not be replaced under the warranty unless it sunk over an 1-1/2 " .

So I really became upset. So the bowling ball sat on it during the day. After

2 weeks, I called again and another rep from the mattress company came out.

Yep it was deeper and they agreed to send a replacement on the Pillow Top.

I learned from the mattress rep. that all Pillow Tops will breakdown. To avoid

that problem, he told me: When buying a pillow top, do not get one with over an

inch of space when you lift the corner of the pillow top up. So if you lift a

corner of it up,

there should not be any space more than an inch. He also said to get a pillow

top that is stitched directly to the mattress top. We went to the store and

selected another mattress.

What a difference. No problems with back aches or aches of any kind. And we

got a store credit for the difference of the cost.

Elaine in Michigan

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine,

Do you recall the name of the new mattress you got? The one you liked? Also,

do you feel the other person moving much?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Elaine,

I hope your mattress continues to do well for you. I did originally get the

Sealy mattress that did not have the extra pillow top, because the store

representative told me the same as they told you, that the pillow top was bad

about sagging. But my mattress without the extra pillow top is sagging. I have

been chicken to call and see if anything would be done. I need too, I just keep

putting it off, and suffering each morning. We have changed mattresses so many

times, I guess I have given up for a time.

[Guest guest]

, dont give up, pick up the phone and call, you solve solve the problem if

you don't call. I am glad I did.

Elaine in Michigan

[Guest guest]

,

The mattress we bought was a BEAUTY REST CALHOUN COLLECTION FIRM SUPPORT. The

pillow top is stitched right to the mattress and you can't lift it at all.

We are very pleased with it.

This mattress comes with a variety of firmness. You can get it all firm, all

extra firm or half and half. I toss and turn all night and my legs go nuts when

I sleep and my partner says he does not notice it. And I don't feel him moving

either.

Elaine in Michigan

[Guest guest]

I didn't need to pay any money for my hospital bed. I'm not sure if MDA

or MA footed that bill. If I would have had to fork out that money then

I wouldn't have even considered getting it. If I lay on my back or side

too long while sleeping then I get sore in areas, even my ears. I then

know I need to move.

Kerry in WI