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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:17:25 -0500 " and Beth Reeves "

<munch@...> writes:

> In all the mess of some band thing people seem to have missed the

> question

> someone asked about beds. I sure would like to hear the answers

> other people

> have for what type of bed do you sleep on to help with body pain at

> night.

I like a soft mattress because of my hips but trying to find one is

something else. I finally bought an egg shell mattress to put on top of

my bed and that helps alot. Of course hip surgery did wonders too. :-)

> When we go to lpa things I usually

> do not sleep very long due to pain sleeping in those over hard hotel

> beds.

For traveling you can pick up an egg shell mattress in any store like

Fred Meyers or K-mart.

Also, they have these new fangled air mattresses that you can blow up to

where it suits you...I haven't tried those yet. They supposedly fold up

into a nice little square for packing.

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I recently have begun using a magnetic bed pad and have been amazed at

how much it has helped. The company allows you to test them out for a

week so you can see if it works for you which is neat as they are

expensive.

:o) Danette :o)

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 22:17:25 -0500 " and Beth Reeves "

<munch@...> writes:

> In all the mess of some band thing people seem to have missed the

> question

> someone asked about beds. I sure would like to hear the answers

> other people

> have for what type of bed do you sleep on to help with body pain at

> night.

>

> I slept as a child with half of my body hanging off the bed. My mom

> often wondered

> how I managed to keep from falling onto the floor with most of my

> body hanging off the

> bed.

>

> Then my step grandma had a special bed made for me. But I grew out

> of it. my feet

> hung off of the bed and that helped pull my back out strait. she had

> this made when we were

> at sears and they had a display of a bedspread made up on a small

> wood box. I as a child saw

> that it was small like me and jumped on it thinking it was a real

> bed just for me. What a surprise

> I got when I landed on a real hard wood box.

>

> then when I got married we were given the house I grew up in and it

> had a king size bed

> in it my mom and dad were 6' and 5'9 " . That bed had King size

> pillows and I used one

> like the body pillows they sell now days. I laid on my stomach and

> put the pillow under

> my shoulder then around my belly and drew my knee up and over the

> pillow to help straiten

> out my back.

>

> then my mom and dad bought us a water bed that was 50% motionless.

> That bed

> was the best I had slept in until my hips started to bother me and

> getting out of the

> bed hurt them.

>

> so my best friend switched water beds with us. and hers is the best

> bed yet.

>

> it is a soft sided water bed. It has half board half foam sides.

> the foam is 8 inches above

> the board. It also has two different bladders one for me and one

> for john. and it takes

> regular bed sheets.

>

> s side is filled with so much water that when he lies down he

> looks like he is sleeping

> on top of a coffin. and he has a heater turned up to 100 degrees.

>

> my side has a low water level to help with back and hip pain. to

> much water makes both hurt.

> and my heater is turned down to 30.

>

> I would not trade my current bed for anything in the world. When we

> go to lpa things I usually

> do not sleep very long due to pain sleeping in those over hard hotel

> beds.

>

> that is my bed history of 37 years.

> Beth Reeves

>

>

>

>

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From: and Beth Reeves <munch@...>

>I sure would like to hear the answers other people have for what type of

bed do you sleep on to help with body pain at night.

I suppose sleep needs vary from type of L.P. to L.P.

However, Lin and I SWEAR by our waterbed! This topic was discussed here

some months ago, and it was surprising just how many people had, and loved,

a waterbed.

It supports the body from top to toe and moulds itself around the various

contours. It is especially good for the huge curve at the base of the

spine.

Second, (and this may sound weird), but a pillow half way down the bed gives

unbelievable comfort, when you use it to wrap your legs around.

Good luck

Fred

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Water beds have been the best for me too. I used a full wave mattress

for years and now have a semi-waveless mattress. I keep the heater temp

up enough to be warm but comfortable. The heat really helps ease the

stiffness and soreness for me but hubby roasts (hehe).

The girls have the soft sided water mattresses with tubes of water in

them and they love them. I personally sleep much better on my bed.

I, too, have a very hard time trying to sleep on those HARD hotel beds.

Reba

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I have an antique bed with just a firm mattress, no boxspring. I sleep with

my head off the pillow, I use a towel under the small of my back and a

large towel rolled under my knees. I also use more towels under my hips. I

use an electric blanket for added heat.

Amy

Beds

> In all the mess of some band thing people seem to have missed the question

> someone asked about beds. I sure would like to hear the answers other

people

> have for what type of bed do you sleep on to help with body pain at night.

>

> I slept as a child with half of my body hanging off the bed. My mom often

wondered

> how I managed to keep from falling onto the floor with most of my body

hanging off the

> bed.

>

> Then my step grandma had a special bed made for me. But I grew out of it.

my feet

> hung off of the bed and that helped pull my back out strait. she had this

made when we were

> at sears and they had a display of a bedspread made up on a small wood

box. I as a child saw

> that it was small like me and jumped on it thinking it was a real bed just

for me. What a surprise

> I got when I landed on a real hard wood box.

>

> then when I got married we were given the house I grew up in and it had a

king size bed

> in it my mom and dad were 6' and 5'9 " . That bed had King size pillows and

I used one

> like the body pillows they sell now days. I laid on my stomach and put

the pillow under

> my shoulder then around my belly and drew my knee up and over the pillow

to help straiten

> out my back.

>

> then my mom and dad bought us a water bed that was 50% motionless. That

bed

> was the best I had slept in until my hips started to bother me and getting

out of the

> bed hurt them.

>

> so my best friend switched water beds with us. and hers is the best bed

yet.

>

> it is a soft sided water bed. It has half board half foam sides. the

foam is 8 inches above

> the board. It also has two different bladders one for me and one for

john. and it takes

> regular bed sheets.

>

> s side is filled with so much water that when he lies down he looks

like he is sleeping

> on top of a coffin. and he has a heater turned up to 100 degrees.

>

> my side has a low water level to help with back and hip pain. to much

water makes both hurt.

> and my heater is turned down to 30.

>

> I would not trade my current bed for anything in the world. When we go to

lpa things I usually

> do not sleep very long due to pain sleeping in those over hard hotel beds.

>

> that is my bed history of 37 years.

> Beth Reeves

>

>

>

>

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Here is my post again on the subject of beds, just in case

it " got lost in the mail " (he he). Anyway, this is my

opinion. Hope it helps.

Bye all,

Wanda

,

I am an SED and I have had 5 back surgeries and I have a

full floatation waterbed. I Love it!!! I can not sleep for

more than one night on a regular mattress. If I do, then I

get all stiff and sore. My Doc. (Dr Kopits) even recommended

a waterbed to me and you may even be able to get your

medical insurance to pay for one. That's just my opinion and

advice, I hope it helps. Good Luck and please let me know

what you discover.

Again Good Luck,

Wanda from land aka TigerEyes =^@.@^=

lewis miller wrote:

>

> can anyone give any advice of what is the best type of bed for lp with back >

problems, has anyone experienced the differences between spring mattresses and

water

> beds either full floatation, semi- or cylinder type mattresses, i have a

standard

> mattress now and wake up all stiff and hurting..thank you,,lewis

>

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I've been sleeping on the couch lately, partly because of the PA and partly

because of my darling husband's snoring (somewhat like an eighteen wheeler's

horn going off right next to your head!). I've found that the couch seems

to support me better and I can lay on my side without the pains in my arm,

etc. My sister thinks this is awful (she's not married but says that she

wouldn't let a little thing like snoring have her sleeping in another room.

We'll see when she's been married for a while), but hey, you've gotta do

what you've gotta do, right? =)

Sinead

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>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Beds, ears and Remicade

>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:34:14 EDT

>

>In a message dated 18/04/01 05:00:12 GMT Daylight Time,

>nolemmingi@...

>writes:

>

>

> > A few years ago, while I was having a difficult time with my back

> > (among other PA symptoms), my husband and I bought an " air bed " . It

> > has been wonderful!

>

>Hi ,

>

>Certainly sounds great ! I suppose a Water Bed would do the same thing??

>except that one might get sea-sick !! :-)

>

>It is nice to see that more people are posting now, where we can all see

>that to a varying degree, we suffer the same 'things!!'...and have the same

>problems !!

>

>Mike (from the UK)

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In a message dated 19/04/01 08:31:25 GMT Daylight Time, almostturner@... writes:

My sister thinks this is awful (she's not married but says that she wouldn't let a little thing like snoring have her sleeping in another room.

We'll see when she's been married for a while), but hey, you've gotta do what you've gotta do, right? =)

Oh dear!! she doesn't know what she is in for !!! :-)

Mike (from the UK)

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In a message dated 19/04/01 18:25:47 GMT Daylight Time, angie@... writes:

We recently bought a water bed and I can honestly say that I am more comfortable in bed than I have been in years. It supports every part of your body without any pressure points. I would definitely recommend trying one out if any of you are considering changing your bed in the near future.

Thanks Angie. Got my Sailor hat, just off down the chemist for my sea-sick pills !!! lol

Mike (from the UK)

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We recently bought a water bed and I can honestly say that I am more comfortable in bed than I have been in years. It supports every part of your body without any pressure points. I would definitely recommend trying one out if any of you are considering changing your bed in the near future.

Angie (UK)

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Ha Sinead I know what you mean. I have a husband who snores the same way

and also jumps and twitches with it. Great on a water bed! Fortunately this

is where the blessing of working night shift comes in. I only have to put

up with it 3 nights of the week.

Dianne

At 19:50 18/04/2001 -0400, you wrote:

>I've been sleeping on the couch lately, partly because of the PA and partly

>because of my darling husband's snoring (somewhat like an eighteen wheeler's

>horn going off right next to your head!). I've found that the couch seems

>to support me better and I can lay on my side without the pains in my arm,

>etc. My sister thinks this is awful (she's not married but says that she

>wouldn't let a little thing like snoring have her sleeping in another room.

>We'll see when she's been married for a while), but hey, you've gotta do

>what you've gotta do, right? =)

>

>Sinead

>

>

>>From: picbond@...

>>Reply-

>>

>>Subject: Re: [ ] Beds, ears and Remicade

>>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:34:14 EDT

>>

>>In a message dated 18/04/01 05:00:12 GMT Daylight Time,

>>nolemmingi@...

>>writes:

>>

>>

>> > A few years ago, while I was having a difficult time with my back

>> > (among other PA symptoms), my husband and I bought an " air bed " . It

>> > has been wonderful!

>>

>>Hi ,

>>

>>Certainly sounds great ! I suppose a Water Bed would do the same thing??

>>except that one might get sea-sick !! :-)

>>

>>It is nice to see that more people are posting now, where we can all see

>>that to a varying degree, we suffer the same 'things!!'...and have the same

>>problems !!

>>

>>Mike (from the UK)

>

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Jumps and twitches?! Mine has apnea, so he stops breathing (although he

won't admit it and go to a doctor about it), which means that I'm half awake

all night just trying to make sure he doesn't die on me. He probably

wouldn't--he lived just fine for years before we were married--but I feel

like if I'm in the bed with him that I should be paying attention. =)

Sinead

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My parents surprised me (VERY Nice, but HUGE mistake!) by having a new mattress

and box springs delivered the day before my second surgery. I had the same amt

of pain, if not more. I believe that no matter what a salesperson says

(unfortunately my parents thought this guy was mattress God who knew all, he was

a salesman getting his bonus) they do not know what is best for which person. My

parents now agree that I should have " tried " out the mattresses myself. They got

the hardest mattress, no " pillow " top like they have on some. It's a Sealy. When

the 2nd (last) portion of my disability back pay came in February, I bought a

" box " featherbed. The featherbed has helped, but for me personally, I believe I

need a less firm mattress. I sleep on my left side, tho all my pain is on my

left side I can't sleep on my right, it makes the pain.. odd is all I can say, I

can't explain it.. I sleep on the pain, sorta like putting pressure on it so it

doesnt hurt as much, I know sounds weird but its really hard for me to explain,

maybe one of you is the same way and know how I mean. Anyhow, I sleep with a

body pillow behind me, a body pillow that I " hug " that goes down between my legs

so that my knees nor ankles are touching each other, a pillow under the foot

that is on the featherbed, and pillows under my head. I'm " boxed " in so that I

don't roll, there are also 4 pillows behind the body pillow that is against my

back. I'm still not comfortable, it takes me a bit to get to sleep, and I wake

up in pain always... and I have to say, being a female it's triple the pain for

the week before and during. Lastly, the reason I have so many pillows behind me

is because if I roll on my back when I'm asleep, I'm litterally in tears and

screaming, the pain waking me. I've woken up my daughter and scared her to

death, tho now she knows the " routine " if that happens. Thankfully most of the

time it's happened right about the time we need to get up in the morning. She

luckily can hear me yell for her and when I do that, she knows something is

wrong. Being miss independent, I've told her I'll be ok and feel like such a

horrible mom when she gets herself ready for school and out the door to the bus.

After a couple times of having to go to the bathroom so bad I've almost not made

it, I've told her that if I'm that way make sure I have the phone with me.

Sometimes she's able to move my legs slowly to the side of the bed, then (the

poor kid I felt so bad when this happend) as I scream in pain moving to stand

up, she's crying her little eyes out. This happened a couple times and I couldnt

do it anymore, the pain I felt and the pain in her eyes was too much. Now she

gives me the phone, I fake that I'm ok just too tired to get up (when it

happens, luckily its not often). I try to hold out as long as possible but end

up calling my parents (who live just down the street thankfully) to come help

me. Luckily they finally believe one thing, when I say no ambulance I mean it,

I'm sure you all know how useless it is to go to the ER, sit for 2-6 hrs, only

to be handed a paper saying call your doctor in the am, sorry we cant help you,

you have pain meds.

Sorry once again I sorta get off subject. Yes my mattress is new, well was brand

new on Oct 14, 2001. Featherbed has helped a little, I believe I'd be a lot

worse off without it, but I still think for me a softer bed is better. As for

your question on an adjustable, the craftmatic, I think that would be similar to

a hospital bed (with the positions of it I mean) but not sure how comfy.

http://www.craftmatic.com/html/US/free.html

You can go there and speak with a rep, I just tried but they are " closed " . If

you can get one to try for 30 days, I'd say go for it, but I'm not sure if I'm

thinking of the right company that does the free 30 day trial. Anyhow, I also

was going to ask them about ins. paying for it, but as I said they are " closed " .

Please let me know if you find out any info, I'm curious again about it (I was

before but just never did anything about it, my own fault). My parents now know

that they salesman was just that, someone selling them a mattress. I feel so bad

they spent their money on that to help me out and hated being honest b/c I

didn't want to hurt them, but they'd rather have me tell them the bed sucks than

to lie, that's just not me and they'd see it in my eyes when they'd help me out

of bed anyhow unfortunately.

I wish so much that I could find a surgeon that would see me based on what I

feel and not what an MRI shows, as much pain as I'm still in there has got to be

something that is not showing up on MRI's or xrays... I keep thinking of what

someone once told my aunt I think it was.. floating disc particle from a

previous surgery " imbedded " itself somehow on/in the sciatic nerve that no test

showed, it was found years later when another surgery was done...all those years

spent in pain and by accident found out what the cause was..

Connie

Beds

> Lets talk b-e-d, bed. No it's not a pick up line but did anyone

> consider relief with purchasing a new bed? How old is your present

> bed? Does anyone own a craftmatic adjustable bed? Can you recommend

> it to others? I am on my third week of PT and have no positive

> results. I'll be persuing surgery and was wondering how important a

> good bed is for recovery. Should I go all out and try to get an

> adjustable? Do medical insurance companies pay for such?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Nick :)

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Hi Connie,

Did I ever tell you that I appreciate your advice but respectfully

it hurts to read so much. I'm sorry, I get carried away at times

too. There were so many points I wanted to comment on but have to

reread or scan the whole thing to find them all, lol. Ok here we go.

I sleep on my left because my right hurts. I can never seem to move

my head to my chin or rightside w/o nausea. I can understand how you

need to do the opposite and sleep on the side of pain. Next I feel

the same way about E.R.s. They take forever and do next to nothing

for you in the end resulting in a morning appointment with your

regular Doctor. That sounds real scary floating disc particles. I

can hear crunchy crackling sounds moving my head backwards toward

the right when seated. Hope it's not the same thing. Lastly I'll let

you know how I make out with the craftmatic but am juggling so many

things right now it may take till the weekend. That's why I was

hoping for some advice here. :)

-Nick :o)

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Sorry I can't help you..Im still using my nice warm waterbed and it feels

wonderful to sleep in,but sure that will change after the surgery!

Beds

Lets talk b-e-d, bed. No it's not a pick up line but did anyone

consider relief with purchasing a new bed? How old is your present

bed? Does anyone own a craftmatic adjustable bed? Can you recommend

it to others? I am on my third week of PT and have no positive

results. I'll be persuing surgery and was wondering how important a

good bed is for recovery. Should I go all out and try to get an

adjustable? Do medical insurance companies pay for such?

Thanks,

Nick :)

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Nick,

My orthopedist recommended Tempur-pedic, the kind that was initially

developed by aerospace scientists for the NASA program. I’m just about to

buy one, so I’ll let you know how it turns out. My orthopedist (who just

made medical history on the balloon/cement bone injection) says that the

adjustable beds are for very disabled people. If you have severe trouble

arising from bed, transferring from bed to a wheelchair, etc. an adjustable

bed is the one you want. What’s more important is the kind of mattress

padding you put on that adjustable bed. Hadn’t thought of checking with my

medical insurance to see if they’ll cover it.

sonia

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At 01:47 AM 5/15/03, sonia wrote:

>My orthopedist recommended Tempur-pedic, the kind that was initially

>developed by aerospace scientists for the NASA program. I'm just about to

>buy one, so I'll let you know how it turns out. My orthopedist (who just

>made medical history on the balloon/cement bone injection) says that the

>adjustable beds are for very disabled people.

Hello!

I'm new to this group, having just found you. I'm a Gulf War veteran with

a multitude of heath problems, including spinal canal stenosis. The VA now

says they can't do anything else, since the epidural steroid injection

didn't work. Apparently surgery won't provide me with pain relief. :-(

Anyway...a month ago, a Tempur-pedic (http://www.tempurpedic.com)

adjustable bed & neck pillows arrived in my home. The unique pillow

(ordered by physical dimensions for the best fit) is unlike the memory foam

ones you see in the stores. These are expensive, but well worth it. Mine

has reduced my morning neck pain. The bed is just...AWESOME. I needed an

adjustable bed due to GERD & it provides the 45 degree angle my doctor

recommended. The massage feature lulls you to sleep & shuts off 30 minutes

later. Unlike the Craftmatic, Tempur-pedic beds don't use a heat

setting. The unique memory foam males you feel like you're sleeping on a

cloud, as you don't feel the pressure of normal mattresses. I still wake

up with pain, but it's a lesser pain than before. Now...it's around 10AM

before my pain level hits what it used to be upon waking. I HIGHLY

recommend theses beds & pillows. Take care!

FIRST IN SUPPORT!

Rita Hawkins

Disabled Gulf War Veteran

DSBR Florida State Commander

http://www.gulflink.org/rita/rita.html

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Hi ,

Funny you mention the tempur pedic I couldn't remember it last night

when trying to do some research, thanks. Please let me know what you

find out from you experiences. I'm going to make some calls today.

-Nick

> Nick,

> My orthopedist recommended Tempur-pedic, the kind that was

initially

> developed by aerospace scientists for the NASA program. I'm just

about to

> buy one, so I'll let you know how it turns out. My orthopedist

(who just

> made medical history on the balloon/cement bone injection) says

that the

> adjustable beds are for very disabled people. If you have severe

trouble

> arising from bed, transferring from bed to a wheelchair, etc. an

adjustable

> bed is the one you want. What's more important is the kind of

mattress

> padding you put on that adjustable bed. Hadn't thought of

checking with my

> medical insurance to see if they'll cover it.

> sonia

>

>

>

>

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Rita,

I am so glad to have met you. I don't have the time to discuss

things right now however I would greatly appreciate talking to you

as a fellow Vet. I've experienced so many medical problems lately

that I can relate to you. I checked out your website however the

links are not operable. I'll try to email sometime soon in greater

length. Best regards.

-Nick

> >My orthopedist recommended Tempur-pedic, the kind that was

initially

> >developed by aerospace scientists for the NASA program. I'm just

about to

> >buy one, so I'll let you know how it turns out. My orthopedist

(who just

> >made medical history on the balloon/cement bone injection) says

that the

> >adjustable beds are for very disabled people.

>

> Hello!

>

> I'm new to this group, having just found you. I'm a Gulf War

veteran with

> a multitude of heath problems, including spinal canal stenosis.

The VA now

> says they can't do anything else, since the epidural steroid

injection

> didn't work. Apparently surgery won't provide me with pain

relief. :-(

>

> Anyway...a month ago, a Tempur-pedic (http://www.tempurpedic.com)

> adjustable bed & neck pillows arrived in my home. The unique

pillow

> (ordered by physical dimensions for the best fit) is unlike the

memory foam

> ones you see in the stores. These are expensive, but well worth

it. Mine

> has reduced my morning neck pain. The bed is just...AWESOME. I

needed an

> adjustable bed due to GERD & it provides the 45 degree angle my

doctor

> recommended. The massage feature lulls you to sleep & shuts off

30 minutes

> later. Unlike the Craftmatic, Tempur-pedic beds don't use a heat

> setting. The unique memory foam males you feel like you're

sleeping on a

> cloud, as you don't feel the pressure of normal mattresses. I

still wake

> up with pain, but it's a lesser pain than before. Now...it's

around 10AM

> before my pain level hits what it used to be upon waking. I

HIGHLY

> recommend theses beds & pillows. Take care!

>

> FIRST IN SUPPORT!

> Rita Hawkins

> Disabled Gulf War Veteran

> DSBR Florida State Commander

> http://www.gulflink.org/rita/rita.html

>

>

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Rita,

Welcome aboard. Thanks on the Tempur-Pedic. That makes me feel a whole lot

better about my purchase, which hasn't been delivered yet. Those pillows

are expensive, too, & I loved the demo at the store.

sonia

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At 05:56 PM 5/15/03, wrote:

>Rita,

>Welcome aboard. Thanks on the Tempur-Pedic. That makes me feel a whole

>lot better about my purchase, which hasn't been delivered yet. Those

>pillows are expensive, too, & I loved the demo at the store.

Thanks, ! Make sure you have someone who can take you old bed apart

(if you bought the complete bed) before they deliver the Tempur-pedic. The

drivers aren't supposed to do it. The bed will work on your current

headboard, but the drivers won't contact that either. :-( Otherwise, plan

on taking a warm bath/shower before heading to bed for the best night's

sleep you've ever had. Did you get the pillows? They should arrive before

the bed does.

FIRST IN SUPPORT!

Rita Hawkins

Disabled Gulf War Veteran

DSBR Florida State Commander

http://www.gulflink.org/rita/rita.html

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I recently asked this same question as we were bed shopping. We then bought

the select comfort bed which is the sleep number bed. I am in heaven. You make

it as hard or as soft as you want. When my back is bad, I make it firmer but

otherwise, I feel as if I am sleeping on a marshmallow, I have it so soft. I

will say it is expensive but you can make payments if you want. Judy

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Cary,

Most of our family are memory foam addicts. I just bought a new mattress,

needing one for our guest room. The 10 year old mattress with the memory

foam pad far surpasses any mattress we tried out.

The best price I¹ve seen is where I got mine, in a family owned department

store back in NJ.

They are available online if you are interested:

http://www.boscovs.com/commerce/product.asp?dept%5Fid=7201100 & pf%5Fid=102056

768kingfoam

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> Okay folks-

>

> I have a survey question of my own. We are going to buy a new bed. I have

> been mattress shopping in a mattress place, I have seen the sample of the

> tempurpedic, I have seen ads for the select comfort sleep number bed...

> what is everyone's favorite comfy to sore arthritic bodies bed? I think

> a or someone mentioned a layer of the tempurpedic stuff you put on top of

> the

> mattress or something? Please throw your faves out there. Thanks a lot.

> Cary

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Thanks for the response, Judy. This is the one my significant other is

leaning towards! He likes a hard bed-I told him he should just sleep on the

street! I like softer. He wants to make sure whatever we get is good for me,

which

is nice. Cary

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