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Hi Eleanor! Hope all is well with you! Yes, my

leukocytosis was elevated, but I'm not sure the level

and I did have migratory joint pain...and still do.

It was not as bad at the beginning as it is now. Most

of my disease was systemic at onset and joint pain

(migratory) is setting in strong now.

Love, Kim

--- Elan727@... wrote:

> Gang,

> Could you please tell me if on the onset of this

> disease if any of you " did

> not " have leukocytosis ( elevated white blood cell

> count) and if your

> arthritis was " migratory " - meaning you would feel

> stiffness/ pain in a joint

> for a few days and then it would move to another

> joint.

>

> Thanks,

> Eleanor

>

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, I am rather put off by this note. I think that you perhaps are

confusing people feeling comfortable talking about the " sad " parts of this

illness with a lack of hope. I am happy that obviously you've been

fortunate and not had the feelings that many of us (myself included) have

experienced. I am not a sad sack sort of person and never have been. But,

I have found that when I am very down by this sickness and pain, I can (if I

want to) write to this group and find that I am unconditionally accepted.

What I am greeted with are people who tell funny stories for tell me " this

moment will pass " and just BELIEVE.

When other such notes are written, I do not think for an instant that these

individuals are just sitting around in a depressed stupor, just waiting

their turn to write to the group. We are people trying to get on with our

lives, yet once in a while, a bizarre depression comes on and who are we to

turn to? Our families, our close friends? I think not. The reason is that

most of us love our little circle of friends and families so much (painfully

so), and see their pain due to our illness on their faces. I see it on my

father's face every time I see him. Do you think in a million years that I

would tell him yet another thing that he would worry about and carry with

him? I/We would rather not burden them with even more pain. You see we are

not selfish and realize that it is unhealthy to carry our concerns within

ourselves. We must share...and this is the forum that many of us choose.

Actually, I find it strange that this sort of sharing is apparently the only

thing you see in this group. I feel sad for you that you are missing out on

so much more. Maybe you are missing all the layers that exist that are FULL

of sharing happiness. Have you missed all of the notes about possible new

therapies and medications that give us all hope that a cure is just around

the corner? Enough said.

, I simply don't understand you, perhaps I am mistaken by your point.

Perhaps you didn't mean to sound so harsh such that it would make some

people in need to think twice about writing when they are in pain.

I wish you the best in your next group if you so wish to leave.

Most Sincerely, Kathi M

I've not given up hope and can't imagine that I ever will. I've been with

this illness for 14 yrs now and with this group on and off for a few years.

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>

>

> > Hi Gang...

> > I just got back from going to another rheumatologist, (Dr. Reginatto in

> > Cherry Hill, NJ).

> > He said it's quite possible that if I don't get another flare after my

> > initial onset that what I have wasn't Stills but a viral infection of

some

> > type. He said this because my arthritic symptoms were " migratory " , by

> > ferritin level was high, but not as high as some people with Stills and

I

> > didn't have leucocytosis ( a high white blood cell count).

> > He says if I get another flare after the inital onset, then it was

> probably

> > Stills.

> > Can anyone share any insight on this? Does this make sense?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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, I am rather put off by this note. I think that you perhaps are

confusing people feeling comfortable talking about the " sad " parts of this

illness with a lack of hope. I am happy that obviously you've been

fortunate and not had the feelings that many of us (myself included) have

experienced. I am not a sad sack sort of person and never have been. But,

I have found that when I am very down by this sickness and pain, I can (if I

want to) write to this group and find that I am unconditionally accepted.

What I am greeted with are people who tell funny stories for tell me " this

moment will pass " and just BELIEVE.

When other such notes are written, I do not think for an instant that these

individuals are just sitting around in a depressed stupor, just waiting

their turn to write to the group. We are people trying to get on with our

lives, yet once in a while, a bizarre depression comes on and who are we to

turn to? Our families, our close friends? I think not. The reason is that

most of us love our little circle of friends and families so much (painfully

so), and see their pain due to our illness on their faces. I see it on my

father's face every time I see him. Do you think in a million years that I

would tell him yet another thing that he would worry about and carry with

him? I/We would rather not burden them with even more pain. You see we are

not selfish and realize that it is unhealthy to carry our concerns within

ourselves. We must share...and this is the forum that many of us choose.

Actually, I find it strange that this sort of sharing is apparently the only

thing you see in this group. I feel sad for you that you are missing out on

so much more. Maybe you are missing all the layers that exist that are FULL

of sharing happiness. Have you missed all of the notes about possible new

therapies and medications that give us all hope that a cure is just around

the corner? Enough said.

, I simply don't understand you, perhaps I am mistaken by your point.

Perhaps you didn't mean to sound so harsh such that it would make some

people in need to think twice about writing when they are in pain.

I wish you the best in your next group if you so wish to leave.

Most Sincerely, Kathi M

I've not given up hope and can't imagine that I ever will. I've been with

this illness for 14 yrs now and with this group on and off for a few years.

Question

>

>

> > Hi Gang...

> > I just got back from going to another rheumatologist, (Dr. Reginatto in

> > Cherry Hill, NJ).

> > He said it's quite possible that if I don't get another flare after my

> > initial onset that what I have wasn't Stills but a viral infection of

some

> > type. He said this because my arthritic symptoms were " migratory " , by

> > ferritin level was high, but not as high as some people with Stills and

I

> > didn't have leucocytosis ( a high white blood cell count).

> > He says if I get another flare after the inital onset, then it was

> probably

> > Stills.

> > Can anyone share any insight on this? Does this make sense?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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I've had a normal WBC count since my symptoms started in 1997. Wish (in a way)

that I had experienced high white counts once in a while. Maybe I would have

been diagnosed sooner and treated sooner! This is one strange disease

(like...yah, we ALL KNOW THAT!)...LOL! OR, maybe it's just us! LMAO! Just

kidding! Happy New Year to everyone!

Jul

(lilac_rose@...)

Question

Am I the only one in the support group who had a normal WBC at the onset of

this illness? All my other symtoms were that of Stills, though. I wonder if

an elevated WBC is key to making a more definitive diagnosis.

Thanks,

Eleanor

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I've had a normal WBC count since my symptoms started in 1997. Wish (in a way)

that I had experienced high white counts once in a while. Maybe I would have

been diagnosed sooner and treated sooner! This is one strange disease

(like...yah, we ALL KNOW THAT!)...LOL! OR, maybe it's just us! LMAO! Just

kidding! Happy New Year to everyone!

Jul

(lilac_rose@...)

Question

Am I the only one in the support group who had a normal WBC at the onset of

this illness? All my other symtoms were that of Stills, though. I wonder if

an elevated WBC is key to making a more definitive diagnosis.

Thanks,

Eleanor

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I've had a normal WBC count since my symptoms started in 1997. Wish (in a way)

that I had experienced high white counts once in a while. Maybe I would have

been diagnosed sooner and treated sooner! This is one strange disease

(like...yah, we ALL KNOW THAT!)...LOL! OR, maybe it's just us! LMAO! Just

kidding! Happy New Year to everyone!

Jul

(lilac_rose@...)

Question

Am I the only one in the support group who had a normal WBC at the onset of

this illness? All my other symtoms were that of Stills, though. I wonder if

an elevated WBC is key to making a more definitive diagnosis.

Thanks,

Eleanor

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Hi Eleanor - I DID have leukocytosis as well as arthritis that was migratory.

One day it is in my knee, the next in my wrist with absolutely no pain in the

knee at all. It's the strangest thing! Are you looking for people who did not

have leukocytosis AND migratory arthritis?

Hope this helps a little!

Jen P.

Original Message -----

From: Elan727@...

To: Stillsdisease

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:56 PM

Subject: question

Gang,

Could you please tell me if on the onset of this disease if any of you " did

not " have leukocytosis ( elevated white blood cell count) and if your

arthritis was " migratory " - meaning you would feel stiffness/ pain in a joint

for a few days and then it would move to another joint.

Thanks,

Eleanor

Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

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Hi Eleanor - I DID have leukocytosis as well as arthritis that was migratory.

One day it is in my knee, the next in my wrist with absolutely no pain in the

knee at all. It's the strangest thing! Are you looking for people who did not

have leukocytosis AND migratory arthritis?

Hope this helps a little!

Jen P.

Original Message -----

From: Elan727@...

To: Stillsdisease

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:56 PM

Subject: question

Gang,

Could you please tell me if on the onset of this disease if any of you " did

not " have leukocytosis ( elevated white blood cell count) and if your

arthritis was " migratory " - meaning you would feel stiffness/ pain in a joint

for a few days and then it would move to another joint.

Thanks,

Eleanor

Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

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Hi Eleanor - I DID have leukocytosis as well as arthritis that was migratory.

One day it is in my knee, the next in my wrist with absolutely no pain in the

knee at all. It's the strangest thing! Are you looking for people who did not

have leukocytosis AND migratory arthritis?

Hope this helps a little!

Jen P.

Original Message -----

From: Elan727@...

To: Stillsdisease

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:56 PM

Subject: question

Gang,

Could you please tell me if on the onset of this disease if any of you " did

not " have leukocytosis ( elevated white blood cell count) and if your

arthritis was " migratory " - meaning you would feel stiffness/ pain in a joint

for a few days and then it would move to another joint.

Thanks,

Eleanor

Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

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Kathi,

Again , I dont want to diminish the importance of this group, from which I

have benefited from. I agree with you. I am not here to discourage people

or diminish the importance of each persons feelings.

Question

>

>

> > Hi Gang...

> > I just got back from going to another rheumatologist, (Dr. Reginatto

in

> > Cherry Hill, NJ).

> > He said it's quite possible that if I don't get another flare after my

> > initial onset that what I have wasn't Stills but a viral infection of

some

> > type. He said this because my arthritic symptoms were " migratory " , by

> > ferritin level was high, but not as high as some people with Stills

and I

> > didn't have leucocytosis ( a high white blood cell count).

> > He says if I get another flare after the inital onset, then it was

> probably

> > Stills.

> > Can anyone share any insight on this? Does this make sense?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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Kathi,

Again , I dont want to diminish the importance of this group, from which I

have benefited from. I agree with you. I am not here to discourage people

or diminish the importance of each persons feelings.

Question

>

>

> > Hi Gang...

> > I just got back from going to another rheumatologist, (Dr. Reginatto

in

> > Cherry Hill, NJ).

> > He said it's quite possible that if I don't get another flare after my

> > initial onset that what I have wasn't Stills but a viral infection of

some

> > type. He said this because my arthritic symptoms were " migratory " , by

> > ferritin level was high, but not as high as some people with Stills

and I

> > didn't have leucocytosis ( a high white blood cell count).

> > He says if I get another flare after the inital onset, then it was

> probably

> > Stills.

> > Can anyone share any insight on this? Does this make sense?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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Kathi,

Again , I dont want to diminish the importance of this group, from which I

have benefited from. I agree with you. I am not here to discourage people

or diminish the importance of each persons feelings.

Question

>

>

> > Hi Gang...

> > I just got back from going to another rheumatologist, (Dr. Reginatto

in

> > Cherry Hill, NJ).

> > He said it's quite possible that if I don't get another flare after my

> > initial onset that what I have wasn't Stills but a viral infection of

some

> > type. He said this because my arthritic symptoms were " migratory " , by

> > ferritin level was high, but not as high as some people with Stills

and I

> > didn't have leucocytosis ( a high white blood cell count).

> > He says if I get another flare after the inital onset, then it was

> probably

> > Stills.

> > Can anyone share any insight on this? Does this make sense?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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I personally (my opinion only!) believe that after a stressful event symptoms

can come on strong-but I really believe it is a deep seated immune or other

problem that causes things to get out of control. I will also say, that when

I take the time to practice stress reduction exercises I am really better for

it- I just need to remind myself of that so that I do them!

I have always felt that probably everyone has the potential to get some sort

of disease (don't know if that is right word), but it is a series of things

that determine whether or not your body comes down with the illness.

My grandmother had lupus and I have some speculation of what caused me then

to come down with an autoimmune illness- like I said, an outside agent like a

virus or vaccination that pushed my system over the edge.

Beth

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I personally (my opinion only!) believe that after a stressful event symptoms

can come on strong-but I really believe it is a deep seated immune or other

problem that causes things to get out of control. I will also say, that when

I take the time to practice stress reduction exercises I am really better for

it- I just need to remind myself of that so that I do them!

I have always felt that probably everyone has the potential to get some sort

of disease (don't know if that is right word), but it is a series of things

that determine whether or not your body comes down with the illness.

My grandmother had lupus and I have some speculation of what caused me then

to come down with an autoimmune illness- like I said, an outside agent like a

virus or vaccination that pushed my system over the edge.

Beth

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I personally (my opinion only!) believe that after a stressful event symptoms

can come on strong-but I really believe it is a deep seated immune or other

problem that causes things to get out of control. I will also say, that when

I take the time to practice stress reduction exercises I am really better for

it- I just need to remind myself of that so that I do them!

I have always felt that probably everyone has the potential to get some sort

of disease (don't know if that is right word), but it is a series of things

that determine whether or not your body comes down with the illness.

My grandmother had lupus and I have some speculation of what caused me then

to come down with an autoimmune illness- like I said, an outside agent like a

virus or vaccination that pushed my system over the edge.

Beth

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Hi Eleanor,

Yes, but there is still no " scientific proof " on the " stress

factor. " Many will agree on this stress thing I'm sure!

Stress almost killed me! But...not quite.

Tricia

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> For those of you who have gone into remission without meds and did well

for

> awhile and then experienced another flare.

> Can you attribute your flare to stresses in your life? Just want to see if

> there is a correlation?

>

> Thanks,

> Eleanor

>

>

> Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

>

>

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Hi Eleanor,

Yes, but there is still no " scientific proof " on the " stress

factor. " Many will agree on this stress thing I'm sure!

Stress almost killed me! But...not quite.

Tricia

question

> For those of you who have gone into remission without meds and did well

for

> awhile and then experienced another flare.

> Can you attribute your flare to stresses in your life? Just want to see if

> there is a correlation?

>

> Thanks,

> Eleanor

>

>

> Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

>

>

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Hi Eleanor,

Yes, but there is still no " scientific proof " on the " stress

factor. " Many will agree on this stress thing I'm sure!

Stress almost killed me! But...not quite.

Tricia

question

> For those of you who have gone into remission without meds and did well

for

> awhile and then experienced another flare.

> Can you attribute your flare to stresses in your life? Just want to see if

> there is a correlation?

>

> Thanks,

> Eleanor

>

>

> Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

>

>

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Dear Eleanor -

I attribute the original onset of Stills to some enormous stresses in my

life, but they actually were still present when I went into remission, and I

can't attribute the recurrence of the disease to any particular life

stresses.

I think we always look for causes and reasons. For me, having them would

decrease my sense of helplessness. Unfortunately, they often aren't there, in

my experience. It is the arbitrariness of this disease that is so difficult.

Marcia

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Dear Eleanor -

I attribute the original onset of Stills to some enormous stresses in my

life, but they actually were still present when I went into remission, and I

can't attribute the recurrence of the disease to any particular life

stresses.

I think we always look for causes and reasons. For me, having them would

decrease my sense of helplessness. Unfortunately, they often aren't there, in

my experience. It is the arbitrariness of this disease that is so difficult.

Marcia

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Dear Eleanor -

I attribute the original onset of Stills to some enormous stresses in my

life, but they actually were still present when I went into remission, and I

can't attribute the recurrence of the disease to any particular life

stresses.

I think we always look for causes and reasons. For me, having them would

decrease my sense of helplessness. Unfortunately, they often aren't there, in

my experience. It is the arbitrariness of this disease that is so difficult.

Marcia

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There was one major, formal study done on Still's that

did discover a correlation between stress and the

onset of Still's Disease. However, a correlation is

not the same as a causation, so this finding has to be

interpreted cautiously.

--- Dennis & Tricia Looker wrote:

> Hi Eleanor,

>

> Yes, but there is still no " scientific proof " on the

> " stress

> factor. " Many will agree on this stress thing I'm

> sure!

> Stress almost killed me! But...not quite.

>

> Tricia

>

>

> question

>

>

> > For those of you who have gone into remission

> without meds and did well

> for

> > awhile and then experienced another flare.

> > Can you attribute your flare to stresses in your

> life? Just want to see if

> > there is a correlation?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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There was one major, formal study done on Still's that

did discover a correlation between stress and the

onset of Still's Disease. However, a correlation is

not the same as a causation, so this finding has to be

interpreted cautiously.

--- Dennis & Tricia Looker wrote:

> Hi Eleanor,

>

> Yes, but there is still no " scientific proof " on the

> " stress

> factor. " Many will agree on this stress thing I'm

> sure!

> Stress almost killed me! But...not quite.

>

> Tricia

>

>

> question

>

>

> > For those of you who have gone into remission

> without meds and did well

> for

> > awhile and then experienced another flare.

> > Can you attribute your flare to stresses in your

> life? Just want to see if

> > there is a correlation?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Eleanor

> >

> >

> > Visit the Still's Disease Message Board

> > http://disc.server.com/Indices/148599.html

> >

> >

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