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In a message dated 2/7/2003 1:13:47 AM Central Standard Time,

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> Here you go Tammy!

Thank you so very much I have searched and search lol but couldn't find it.

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In a message dated 2/6/03 4:25:31 AM Central Standard Time, autism-aspergers writes:

obscenity and tells Joe that he's not "that way" Strange! Joe says there are days that he feels that he's lost his wife for good. He does want a best friend in his life but he was hoping I would stay both. I cannot help that I am triggered at night and that the "insiders" come out at night. Just feels like a loose/loose situation most of the time. I just have no "need" of that kind of a relationship now and that's not fair to him. Maybe this is effecting his depression. We go to see his psychiatrist tomorrow afternoon

do you see a therapist for this and also have you also had any medications that can help this ( the alters)?

I just wondered.

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Would y'all be interested in the opinions of a 16 year old with AS, or

is this strictly for parents? :-)

I would LOVE to hear what you have to say. My 3 yr old is newly diagnosed and I want to understand his world as best as I can. He is nearly non verbal.

Thanks,

Angie~

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May I ask a question of you? What is it like to "hear" your diffrent. My 3 yr old son loves to be with other kids now but I see the look on his little face when other kids point out that he's diffrent. For example: "why doesn't he talk" "what's wrong with him" "he's weird". Just to name a few. His smile fades and he looks so hurt. He then shys away and plays with is back to them. Since he is mostly non verbal I can't know for sure what's in his mind but I KNOW he understands and is affected.

Angie~mama to

Corbin 12.29.99 AS, probably SID and ADHD but not fully diagnosed yet

and DA 4.17.02

Haha, that sounds a bit like me, what's everybody else's problem? :-)

Actually it was last october my sister was told by my youth pastor's

wife(who deals with autistic kids), that I seemed aspie-ish, my sister

wrote a paper about the disorder for college because of what she'd

been told, told me about it(with a quote from my sister I'll remember

for a long time - 'that's you!'), and I looked into it. I'm not

'officially' diagnosed yet, though next week am going to talk

to a doctor about it, but he says there's a 'good chance', my parents

both agree all the descriptions fit me, my sister thinks so as well,

etc. Also me and my mom both filled out a survey thing my youth

pastor's wife sent us, and I scored something like 90% likely to have

aspergers. Enough assurance for me to talk about it, anyways. :-)

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I would love to know.

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Would y'all be interested in the opinions of a 16 year old with AS, oris this strictly for parents? :-)

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I'de love to hear your side.--

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:56:14 -0000 " ssaethan "

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> Would y'all be interested in the opinions of a 16 year old with AS,

> or

> is this strictly for parents? :-)

>

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I'd love to hear you're opinions!! How old were you when you were told that you had AS? My neighbours teenage son has also got AS. I love his attitude he can't understand what all the fuss is about. "I'm not the one thats different. It's everyone else who has the problem" Is his favourite quote.

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I'de love to hear your side.--On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:56:14 -0000 "ssaethan" writes:> Would y'all be interested in the opinions of a 16 year old with AS, > or> is this strictly for parents? :-)> > >

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Back before I heard of Aspergers I guess it hurt quite a bit to be

told I was different, but now that I actually know there's other

people like me, and that they're going through similar things, it's

easier to deal with. I think an important thing is in early grade

school I found a good friend that got past my differences, and we're

still good friends today. I don't know what I would've done without

at least that one friend.

You sound like you have a good handle on this. I hope he finds a good friend like you have. Thanks for the insight. I guesse I shouldn't worry too much, both my husband and I were "diffrent" in schoo (stil are) and we both managed to live tgrough it. LOL I'm sure my son will too.

Angie~

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Something else I just thought of, hopefully for your son it will be

easier than it was for me, I sure would've liked to know about

aspergers back when I was in grade school. :-) Just the knowledge

that I'm not alone has helped a lot, imagine it would have helped a

lot more to know earlier.

Oh I agree 100%. My hubby and i both beleive our kids should not be keept in the dark about anything. AS, puberty issue ext. We are very open and forward with them (well as much as you can with a 3 yr old and 10 month old. LOL) we talk about AS infront of Corbin AND with him. When we got the diagnosis he was in the room and you should have seen the look of releife on his face. It was as if a huge weight had been lifted off his shoulders. He KNOWS we understand him now and he is very happy about that. I had to expaline to him just today why he was getting overwhelmed by playing with other kids too long today. Once I explained it to him and had him relax alone for awhile he felt much better. My son alwasy respomds better when I give him a "real" anser not hte typical "becasue I said so" that my mother loves to give me. I think it is cricial to include kids in "real" life and him being AS is real life for him/us.

Another question if you don't mind. I feel the need to pick your brain since I can't my sons (yet). LOL. Do you think you would have liked to go to school with other AS/SID kids or are you glad you went to mainstream school? I have always (even before he was born) wanted to home school, but I'm no longer sure that would be best. Seems AS kids may NEED to interact socially more regularly to learn the ropes of interacting with others. What's your perspective on that?

Angie~

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I'd love to hear!!!!!!!!!

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My 14yr old is still dealing with the fact he is different and doesn't know why. I haven't really talked to him about his AS only because I am just now learning about it.

Really. I would think he'd have to know. How do you get him evaluated and treated without him knowing? My 3 yr old knows because he was there when the Doc told us and at eat BRT and Chiro ajustment we reming him why he's there and how the treament wil help him feel better in his skin.

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I will say, public school is one of the most screwed up organizations

ever. http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html is a good(though long)

article to read, happened upon it today.

About social stuff - I hear a lot of homeschoolers have sort of

'group' things where homeschooled kids will get together and do stuff,

not too sure about it, my mom didn't look into it much because I told

her I wouldn't be interested in it. Also if you're religious at all,

my church's youth group is a great place I've met some people

LOL. I agree, public schools suck. I hated Jr high and high school and faked sick at least 3 times a week, EVERY week. Not sure why other than it SUCKED. Your right about homeschool groups. They are pretty organized and active around here (Texas). Also there are boy scouts, sports, karate (which I love) music, ext ext. My concern about home school comes with jr high and high school comes. School dances, dateing, home comming, student councile, sports teams ext. I wonder if they would like all that even though hubby and I hated it all.

Angie~

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Haha, that sounds a bit like me, what's everybody else's problem? :-)

Actually it was last october my sister was told by my youth pastor's

wife(who deals with autistic kids), that I seemed aspie-ish, my sister

wrote a paper about the disorder for college because of what she'd

been told, told me about it(with a quote from my sister I'll remember

for a long time - 'that's you!'), and I looked into it. I'm not

'officially' diagnosed <i>yet</i>, though next week am going to talk

to a doctor about it, but he says there's a 'good chance', my parents

both agree all the descriptions fit me, my sister thinks so as well,

etc. Also me and my mom both filled out a survey thing my youth

pastor's wife sent us, and I scored something like 90% likely to have

aspergers. Enough assurance for me to talk about it, anyways. :-)

>

> I'd love to hear you're opinions!! How old were you when you were

told that you had AS? My neighbours teenage son has also got

AS. I love his attitude he can't understand what all the fuss is

about. " I'm not the one thats different. It's everyone else who has

the problem " Is his favourite quote.

>

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I'd really suggest looking at that link I gave, and saving it for your

son to read later when he's older. It really shows he's not missing

much. :-) People with AS would tend to be in the group it describes.

Ya know, you sound like my hubby. He was diagnosed with ADD but I'm starting to think maybe he's AS. He hates groups, thay make him postal, he hates dances, he hates people in general if there are too many (or too loud-like me), he hates to be snuggled or patted on the shoulder or consoled in anyway, very akward with girls (though he's a hottie) luckily I am agressive and sought him out. Can't handle alot of noises, to many questions, to much movement..... WOW, I never really thought of it before now but it all makes since. How do I tell a 25 yr old he may be AS? Sorry, I just started thinking out loud there, you don't have to answer that. LOL.

Anyways, I will deffiantly look at that link and save it for Corbin.

Thanks,

Angie~

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I've almost yelled at people for giving me what they thought of as an

encouraging 'pat' or hug, often I've made it fairly obvious I didn't

appreciate it much, I think. I should try to stop doing that :-|.

Yup thats my hubby. I am a very sypathetic and afectionate person so I overwhelm him alot. When we got Corbins diagnosis I was prepared for it and I handled it well but he broke down in tears, when i tried to hug him he pushed me away and left the office. I am used to it so I just went on with the conversation with the Doc as if it didn't happen. But the Doc looked a bit shocked. He is deffinatly lucky to have an understanding wife. He is hard to love.

Angie~

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Sounds lucky, indeed. Now, if only I could meet somebody like that

someday. :-)

you will. just don't look for her, she'll pop outta nowhere. :)

Angie~

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Back before I heard of Aspergers I guess it hurt quite a bit to be

told I was different, but now that I actually know there's other

people like me, and that they're going through similar things, it's

easier to deal with. I think an important thing is in early grade

school I found a good friend that got past my differences, and we're

still good friends today. I don't know what I would've done without

at least that one friend.

> May I ask a question of you? What is it like to " hear " your

diffrent. My 3

> yr old son loves to be with other kids now but I see the look on his

little

> face when other kids point out that he's diffrent. For example:

" why doesn't

> he talk " " what's wrong with him " " he's weird " . Just to name a few.

His smile

> fades and he looks so hurt. He then shys away and plays with is back

to them.

> Since he is mostly non verbal I can't know for sure what's in his

mind but I

> KNOW he understands and is affected.

>

> Angie~mama to

> Corbin 12.29.99 AS, probably SID and ADHD but not fully diagnosed yet

> and DA 4.17.02

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My 14yr old is still dealing with the fact he is different and doesn't know why. I haven't really talked to him about his AS only because I am just now learning about it.

MISSYSAHM of MANY

Excuse Me While I Go Raise Tomorrow's Future.

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Back before I heard of Aspergers I guess it hurt quite a bit to betold I was different, but now that I actually know there's otherpeople like me, and that they're going through similar things, it'seasier to deal with. I think an important thing is in early gradeschool I found a good friend that got past my differences, and we'restill good friends today. I don't know what I would've done withoutat least that one friend.You sound like you have a good handle on this. I hope he finds a good friend like you have. Thanks for the insight. I guesse I shouldn't worry too much, both my husband and I were "diffrent" in schoo (stil are) and we both managed to live tgrough it. LOL I'm sure my son will too.Angie~

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Something else I just thought of, hopefully for your son it will be

easier than it was for me, I sure would've liked to know about

aspergers back when I was in grade school. :-) Just the knowledge

that I'm not alone has helped a lot, imagine it would have helped a

lot more to know earlier.

> You sound like you have a good handle on this. I hope he finds a

good friend

> like you have. Thanks for the insight. I guesse I shouldn't worry

too much,

> both my husband and I were " diffrent " in schoo (stil are) and we

both managed

> to live tgrough it. LOL I'm sure my son will too.

>

> Angie~

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I can say for sure it was a great relief to get an answer to that

'why'... I'd say tell him stuff as you learn it, maybe get him

interested to find out stuff about it himself. He have much internet

access? Just type 'aspergers' into google.com and all kinds of

interesting stuff comes up.

> My 14yr old is still dealing with the fact he is different and

doesn't know why. I haven't really talked to him about his AS only

because I am just now learning about it.

> MISSY

> SAHM of MANY

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Well, if I had *known* about it, I'm not too sure. I know that school

was literally hell, for years I actually had a pattern, once a day

every other week, I just wouldn't get out of bed. I'd claim some sort

of sickness or other(headache and/or stomacheache seemed to work,

think my mom caught on though and just let me stay home anyways ;-) I

was really creative with my sicknesses, sometimes setting my alarm an

hour early just so I could get up and say some ache or other had woken

me up early) to stay home. It was much needed rest time, I'd usually

sleep the whole day.

In the middle of 8th grade I'd had enough, and asked my mom about

homeschooling. She convinced me to wait till between semesters, then

pulled me out of school. At the time we didn't know what AS was,

though. If I had known then, and now that I do know, I'm not so sure.

Right now I could actually see myself going back to high school, if

it wouldn't be so tough to get all the credits, etc worked out that'd

have to be done re-entering public school as a junior. Just doesn't

seem logical anymore. That and I'd be going to 2 years of unnecessary

school, taking the GED next fall and possibly starting college the

following semester. :-)

So with the knowledge about AS, it could be very possible to do just

fine in public school. I can't say for sure though if it'd be that

much better than my experience.

I will say, public school is one of the most screwed up organizations

ever. http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html is a good(though long)

article to read, happened upon it today.

About social stuff - I hear a lot of homeschoolers have sort of

'group' things where homeschooled kids will get together and do stuff,

not too sure about it, my mom didn't look into it much because I told

her I wouldn't be interested in it. Also if you're religious at all,

my church's youth group is a great place I've met some people.

> Oh I agree 100%. My hubby and i both beleive our kids should not be

keept in

> the dark about anything. AS, puberty issue ext. We are very open and

forward

> with them (well as much as you can with a 3 yr old and 10 month old.

LOL) we

> talk about AS infront of Corbin AND with him. When we got the

diagnosis he

> was in the room and you should have seen the look of releife on his

face. It

> was as if a huge weight had been lifted off his shoulders. He KNOWS we

> understand him now and he is very happy about that. I had to

expaline to him

> just today why he was getting overwhelmed by playing with other kids

too long

> today. Once I explained it to him and had him relax alone for awhile

he felt

> much better. My son alwasy respomds better when I give him a " real "

anser not

> hte typical " becasue I said so " that my mother loves to give me. I

think it

> is cricial to include kids in " real " life and him being AS is real

life for

> him/us.

>

> Another question if you don't mind. I feel the need to pick your

brain since

> I can't my sons (yet). LOL. Do you think you would have liked to go to

> school with other AS/SID kids or are you glad you went to mainstream

school?

> I have always (even before he was born) wanted to home school, but

I'm no

> longer sure that would be best. Seems AS kids may NEED to interact

socially

> more regularly to learn the ropes of interacting with others. What's

your

> perspective on that?

>

> Angie~

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Thanks Mike, I'll do that.

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I can say for sure it was a great relief to get an answer to that'why'... I'd say tell him stuff as you learn it, maybe get himinterested to find out stuff about it himself. He have much internetaccess? Just type 'aspergers' into google.com and all kinds ofinteresting stuff comes up.> My 14yr old is still dealing with the fact he is different anddoesn't know why. I haven't really talked to him about his AS onlybecause I am just now learning about it.> MISSY> SAHM of MANY

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Hehe, lets see.. went to one dance in 7th grade, hated it, went to

another with a friend from youth group in 9th grade, also hated it.

Didn't feel like I was missing anything there. Actually almost

totally broke down at that dance in 9th grade, too many people, too

much going on... left really early without telling even the person I

had come with, just had to get out of there.

Sports, there's lots of private sports things, myself not too

interested though I did do karate for a short time.

Dating.. uhm, never been on a date. I don't know. I have some

definite problems in that area, heh. Working on it. Don't need

school to meet girls, though. :-)

I'd really suggest looking at that link I gave, and saving it for your

son to read later when he's older. It really shows he's not missing

much. :-) People with AS would tend to be in the group it describes.

> LOL. I agree, public schools suck. I hated Jr high and high school

and faked

> sick at least 3 times a week, EVERY week. Not sure why other than it

SUCKED.

> Your right about homeschool groups. They are pretty organized and

active

> around here (Texas). Also there are boy scouts, sports, karate

(which I love)

> music, ext ext. My concern about home school comes with jr high and

high

> school comes. School dances, dateing, home comming, student

councile, sports

> teams ext. I wonder if they would like all that even though hubby

and I hated

> it all.

>

> Angie~

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Sounds a lot like me, and I've heard ADD is a common misdiagnosis,

there's also a lot of research to show AS is at least partially

genetic, and have heard of a lot of adults that've discovered their AS

shortly after their child was diagnosed. I post on a forum for

aspies-only, quite a few on there didn't know about AS until after

their kids were DX'd. Very possible. :-)

I've almost yelled at people for giving me what they thought of as an

encouraging 'pat' or hug, often I've made it fairly obvious I didn't

appreciate it much, I think. I should try to stop doing that :-|.

> Ya know, you sound like my hubby. He was diagnosed with ADD but I'm

starting

> to think maybe he's AS. He hates groups, thay make him postal, he hates

> dances, he hates people in general if there are too many (or too

loud-like

> me), he hates to be snuggled or patted on the shoulder or consoled

in anyway,

> very akward with girls (though he's a hottie) luckily I am agressive

and

> sought him out. Can't handle alot of noises, to many questions, to much

> movement..... WOW, I never really thought of it before now but it

all makes

> since. How do I tell a 25 yr old he may be AS? Sorry, I just started

thinking

> out loud there, you don't have to answer that. LOL.

>

> Anyways, I will deffiantly look at that link and save it for Corbin.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Angie~

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