Guest guest Report post Posted September 3, 2004 Dear Daddy, Its interesting that just by going to the mission my understanding of our faith and faith in truth is getting clearer. Don't get a lot time to read though. << Dear Ashok, Two doctors Dr. R. Raja Raja Chozhan and Dr. Dr. Menaga Krishnamoorthy in Naturopathy and Yogic Sciences have joined Nature Cure Centre at Arogyadham. Recently the Principal of Llyods Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan School visited Arogyadham and showed interest for having yoga and meditation classes for school children. What sort of parameters (grade, concentration, regularity, behaviour, IQ, EQ and mental status etc.) we can have for measuring the beneficial effects of yoga and meditation? If you come across the same, do let us know.>> About your query about introduction of meditation techniques and yoga in Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, a thumb rule would be earlier the better. Young minds are more impressionable and responsive. Nowadays they say you should start reading to a newborn infant because its all about myelination of nerves and networking of the neurons. We all have the same brain. What makes us smarter is the degree and onset of networking. I would guess 7 or 8 would be a good age because you do need concentration and committment. I will also consult some experts on this. I am sure Shankerji & Sujathaji will also be able to throw some light as they design classes for age 4 onwards. With love, Ashok 1984 BCH-jbtdrc wrote: Dear Ashok, It looks, you are doing lot of reading and forwarding very useful and interesting information. We are very pleased with your interaction with Shri. Shanker Pillai and Chinmaya Mission. You are exploring Indian philosophy earlier than we did. Keep it up. With Love, Daddy & Mummy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 3, 2004 Dear Daddy, Its interesting that just by going to the mission my understanding of our faith and faith in truth is getting clearer. Don't get a lot time to read though. << Dear Ashok, Two doctors Dr. R. Raja Raja Chozhan and Dr. Dr. Menaga Krishnamoorthy in Naturopathy and Yogic Sciences have joined Nature Cure Centre at Arogyadham. Recently the Principal of Llyods Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan School visited Arogyadham and showed interest for having yoga and meditation classes for school children. What sort of parameters (grade, concentration, regularity, behaviour, IQ, EQ and mental status etc.) we can have for measuring the beneficial effects of yoga and meditation? If you come across the same, do let us know.>> About your query about introduction of meditation techniques and yoga in Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, a thumb rule would be earlier the better. Young minds are more impressionable and responsive. Nowadays they say you should start reading to a newborn infant because its all about myelination of nerves and networking of the neurons. We all have the same brain. What makes us smarter is the degree and onset of networking. I would guess 7 or 8 would be a good age because you do need concentration and committment. I will also consult some experts on this. I am sure Shankerji & Sujathaji will also be able to throw some light as they design classes for age 4 onwards. With love, Ashok 1984 BCH-jbtdrc wrote: Dear Ashok, It looks, you are doing lot of reading and forwarding very useful and interesting information. We are very pleased with your interaction with Shri. Shanker Pillai and Chinmaya Mission. You are exploring Indian philosophy earlier than we did. Keep it up. With Love, Daddy & Mummy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 15, 2004 Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:06pm Subject: Re: I completely agree Lynn...I was sick one year out of college and disabled a= t the age of 30..so thats quite a struggle to work so hard for an education a= nd then not be able to use it:( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 28, 2004 Thanks Cindee, I was 253 on the day of my consult and 247 the day of my surgery. I have stayed the same weight for a few weeks now and am a little discouraged but my clothes are looser than a few weeks ago so I know I am losing inches even if the scale does not say this. Is that pretty normal to stay at the same weight for a few weeks? I had stayed the same weight for 10 days and then lost 3 pounds overnight, so I am just trying to chill out and not worry about it. -- **Wake me up from the nothing that I've become** -------------- Original message -------------- , I was 252 prior to my ds, I was 238 the day of surgery, and I got down to 136 lbs 17 months after the ds and my tummy tuck and hernia repair. I was a size 6/8. I felt too darn skinny and scrawny and I just didn't feel like myself at all. I have made myself regain 10 pounds and luckily I put those pounds right where I felt the scrawniest and saggiest - my face, boobs, arms and butt are all a little rounder now and I love it! With PMS, and water retention due to salt, etc....I can get up around 150 but on a normal non-bloated day I am usually right at 146 pounds. I stay in a size 8 most of the time, but I keep everything from 6 to 10's in my closet so I can bounce 10 pounds up or down and still have plenty to wear! You have already lost 40 pounds? WOW!! Congratulations! You are doing awesome! I whined about what I thought was my " slow " loss at first, and kept comparing myself to others who had lost 60, 70, and 80 pounds in the first 6 months or so. I felt like I was just not doing well, but when I looked at my preop weight, and the fact that I was halfway to my goal already in just the first few months after my ds, I had to change the way I was thinking and seeing my weight loss! Keep posting, we love hearing updates and you are doing wonderfully! Cindee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 28, 2004 > Thanks Cindee, > > I was 253 on the day of my consult and 247 the day of my surgery. I have stayed the same weight for a few weeks now and am a little discouraged but my clothes are looser than a few weeks ago so I know I am losing inches even if the scale does not say this. Is that pretty normal to stay at the same weight for a few weeks? I had stayed the same weight for 10 days and then lost 3 pounds overnight, so I am just trying to chill out and not worry about it. > > > > -- > **Wake me up from the nothing > that I've become** > > -------------- Original message -------------- >******************************* yep- its your bodys way of playing catch up. plus we tend to lose inches even when we arent losing pounds. your body is changing so the scale wont always move. i was on a 2 1/2 month plateau before my hernia repair so i know how it feels to panick but trust me..........this surgery is a wonderful journey. you dont want to lose too fast.......not good for you. i started out at 251 and many people lost faster than me but i am almost to goal at one year out. vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 28, 2004 On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:53:18 +0000, soarthruwind@... wrote: >I was 253 on the day of my consult and 247 the day of my surgery. I have stayed the same weight for a few weeks now and am a little discouraged but my clothes are looser than a few weeks ago so I know I am losing inches even if the scale does not say this. Is that pretty normal to stay at the same weight for a few weeks? I had stayed the same weight for 10 days and then lost 3 pounds overnight, so I am just trying to chill out and not worry about it. > , That is pretty normal. What may be happening is that you are losing fat tissue and building muscle tissue, so you lose inches but not pounds. Next time you get on Dr. K's " magic scale " look at all the numbers. You should notice an increase in the fat-free body mass percentage and a decrease in the body fat catagory. At one point, I went three weeks without showing and weight loss, then dropped ten pounds in ten days. So, you are actually following a fairly normal weight loss timeline. Jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 6, 2004 once in a while me and my wife are on the same page ) phew !! ashok ' 84 " Bhaskar, Renuka, M.D. " wrote: Dearest, This time your e-mail is just right. It's strong yet not derogatory. Its clear and yet not rude. You have some valid points there. I agree with you about non-veg jokes and delete button. They cannot just prohibit something not palatable to them. Please continue your crusade along Gandhiji's lines whom you so believe in. Love, Renuka This message (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message (including any attachments) and notify the originator that you received the message in error. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Genesis Clinical Laboratory. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 6, 2004 once in a while me and my wife are on the same page ) phew !! ashok ' 84 " Bhaskar, Renuka, M.D. " wrote: Dearest, This time your e-mail is just right. It's strong yet not derogatory. Its clear and yet not rude. You have some valid points there. I agree with you about non-veg jokes and delete button. They cannot just prohibit something not palatable to them. Please continue your crusade along Gandhiji's lines whom you so believe in. Love, Renuka This message (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message (including any attachments) and notify the originator that you received the message in error. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Genesis Clinical Laboratory. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 6, 2004 once in a while me and my wife are on the same page ) phew !! ashok ' 84 " Bhaskar, Renuka, M.D. " wrote: Dearest, This time your e-mail is just right. It's strong yet not derogatory. Its clear and yet not rude. You have some valid points there. I agree with you about non-veg jokes and delete button. They cannot just prohibit something not palatable to them. Please continue your crusade along Gandhiji's lines whom you so believe in. Love, Renuka This message (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message (including any attachments) and notify the originator that you received the message in error. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Genesis Clinical Laboratory. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Sondra, I would like to be part of this type of list. Ruthie > if you to want will make a list for parents of severely > autistic teens and young adults. Let me to know if you to want me to > do this. > Sondra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Sondra, I would like to be part of this type of list. Ruthie > if you to want will make a list for parents of severely > autistic teens and young adults. Let me to know if you to want me to > do this. > Sondra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Sondra, If you can I would be so appreciative of it. You are a sweet lady and are always ready to help!! thank you. > > > if you to want will make a list for parents of severely > autistic teens and young adults. Let me to know if you to want me to > do this. > Sondra > > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Sondra, If you can I would be so appreciative of it. You are a sweet lady and are always ready to help!! thank you. > > > if you to want will make a list for parents of severely > autistic teens and young adults. Let me to know if you to want me to > do this. > Sondra > > > > > > > Autism_in_Girls-subscribe > ------------------------ > Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 18, 2004 In a message dated 10/17/2004 8:32:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, DS_Friends_Keshishian writes: Subject: FOR EVERYONE: Depressed about the near furture... I've never really got depressed over when i say " This is will be last time i can eat this after surgery... " because then i just shove it in my mouth and not think about it again. but tonight its really frightening to me! I've been thinking about this all day! I know i absolutly will go ahead with surgery if i get approved, but how did you guys get over the fear of not having the type/amount of food your so use to having? Im so depressed...i need some answers please!!!! : fear is NORMAL!!! but be assured....you will eat everything you EVER wanted to eat. Just have to wait a bit!! I am just over two years out and I eat foods I NEVER thought I could even touch before. Dont worry...you WILL be able to eat!!! Anne in Santee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 18, 2004 One night of watching all the post-ops eat at Woolgrowers sure eased my fears of being unable to eat what I wanted after surgery! I was still pre-op and I was AMAZED by the amount of food everyone was able to eat! A lot of my fears were eased that evening! I was able to see by the amounts everyone ate how far they were post-op thouygh and it was interesting, the ones just a few months post-op still ate a bit slower, and in smaller amounts while those further out just seemed to relax more, eat more, and enjoy it a lot! How could I be scared when I saw so many post-ops eating and drinking, and enjoying their food like that? I would have NEVER known that all those people were post- op's, but then again, a table full of post-op RNY'ers wouldn't be able to enjoy a dinner at Woolgrowers that way! I am still astonished at the foods I can eat that I never thought I would touch again, and like Anne, there are some I never expected to be able to eat! I have been lactose intolerant for years, milk, ice cream, etc....would give me horrible gas and cramps, not to mention the runs from hell. I couldn't even put a small container of half and half in my coffee without spending the rest of the day in the bathroom doubled over and I never ate anything dairy without a double dose of lactaid. I expected it to get worse after surgery but it didn't, in fact it went away completely! I can now eat and drink dairy with no problems at all, and I am making up for all those years of not getting to enjoy it! Give me a TALL glass of chocolate milk or real cream in my coffee and I am smiling! Cindee > > In a message dated 10/17/2004 8:32:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, > DS_Friends_Keshishian writes: > > Subject: FOR EVERYONE: Depressed about the near furture... > > > I've never really got depressed over when i say " This is will be > last time i can eat this after surgery... " because then i just shove > it in my mouth and not think about it again. but tonight its really > frightening to me! I've been thinking about this all day! I know i > absolutly will go ahead with surgery if i get approved, but how did > you guys get over the fear of not having the type/amount of food > your so use to having? Im so depressed...i need some answers > please!!!! > : > > > > fear is NORMAL!!! > > but be assured....you will eat everything you EVER wanted to eat. Just > have to wait a bit!! > I am just over two years out and I eat foods I NEVER thought I could even > touch before. Dont worry...you WILL be able to eat!!! > > Anne in Santee > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 18, 2004 Hi .. I remember you from another list-- welcome here. And Marta... unfortunately, I am forced by distance to use a local PS-- Dr. Mizgala. I'll let you know what I really think of her in a few days. Hope your toofies( teeth) are better. Betsy > > > Date: 2004/10/18 Mon AM 03:40:43 EDT > To: DS_Friends_Keshishian > Subject: > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Jo, No beer at this one. The poker theme and game sounds great, tho! Thanks! How did I break the toe? Sheesh. You know me, " ' Clute! One cat was chasing and bullying the other cat. I was trying to get him and slammed my toe/foot into the bedpost. I think that Tom was just a tad shocked at the string o words that popped out of my mouth! It took him a second to realize why.... I figured I would give the doc a call tomorrow and see about getting in. Yes, I have probably been on it too much. I am subbing part time and did it 3 days last week. The home-biz is going, but slow, so I wanted some extra cash for Xmas. Bummer. I had HS kids two days last week. The second day one of the little dears stole my cell phone. Luckily, another student did some foot work and helped the security officer find out who it was and got it back. I am taking her a thank you gift tomorrow! the gimp in WA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2004 In a message dated 11/14/2004 9:33:49 PM Central Standard Time, SassyNpink@... writes: How did I break the toe? Sheesh. You know me, " ' Clute! One cat was chasing and bullying the other cat. I was trying to get him and slammed my toe/foot into the bedpost. _____________________________________________- , As far as the toe, depending on where the break is, There isn't much to do. Sometimes in extreme cases they put a pin in one, but that is rare in the cases I've seen. I bet money your up and around during the day and the swelling is getting bad at night when you are lying. Are you icing it at night and putting it up on pillows? Putting the foot above the level of the heart is the best way to keep swelling down. When you can get it up and at night get it up on as many pillows as you can stand with an ice pack. If the swelling is already bad you might alternate heat soaks and ice, but do what the docs say.I did the same thing chaseing once but slammed into the coffee table. Hurt like heck!! and did for a long time. Mel (ortho nurse...Shhhh!! Don't tell anyone...LOL) _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/ _ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Mel, I am probably up on it too much during the day. I will try elevating it on a pillow at night. I doesn't seem swollen, but then again the only time I see it is when I change the wrap. It is buddy taped to the next toe (it is the second toe) with a bit of cotton in between (I am using one of those makeup remover cotton pieces). It is all ugly and bruised, but no swelling, but with the coban around it maybe it can't swell? An ice pack will still help even if it has been more than a couple days? huh. Thanks!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2004 In a message dated 11/14/2004 10:28:02 PM Central Standard Time, SassyNpink@... writes: It is buddy taped to the next toe (it is the second toe) with a bit of cotton in between (I am using one of those makeup remover cotton pieces). It is all ugly and bruised, but no swelling, but with the coban around it maybe it can't swell? An ice pack will still help even if it has been more than a couple days? huh. Thanks!! ____________________________________________________ Yep, Ice will help. Even with no swelling it will decrease the pain sensation some. Sometimes the swelling isn't real evident but elavating it will usually help the pain. When people complained of Feet or legs hurting at night, I would usually find they had thier foot(or whatever) off of the pillows or elevating it further helped. Also a little ibuprofen might help. Are you taking a darvocett or anything for pain? If the pain is bad at night. Anticipating the pain might be good. And will help you sleep. Usually after a couple of days the docs say alternating heat and cold is a good idea.although some don't like heat because the thought is that it increases the circulation thus increasing the swelling. Hope this helps. Mel _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/ _ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2004 In a message dated 11/14/2004 10:28:02 PM Central Standard Time, SassyNpink@... writes: It is buddy taped to the next toe (it is the second toe) with a bit of cotton in between (I am using one of those makeup remover cotton pieces). It is all ugly and bruised, but no swelling, but with the coban around it maybe it can't swell? An ice pack will still help even if it has been more than a couple days? huh. Thanks!! ____________________________________________________ Yep, Ice will help. Even with no swelling it will decrease the pain sensation some. Sometimes the swelling isn't real evident but elavating it will usually help the pain. When people complained of Feet or legs hurting at night, I would usually find they had thier foot(or whatever) off of the pillows or elevating it further helped. Also a little ibuprofen might help. Are you taking a darvocett or anything for pain? If the pain is bad at night. Anticipating the pain might be good. And will help you sleep. Usually after a couple of days the docs say alternating heat and cold is a good idea.although some don't like heat because the thought is that it increases the circulation thus increasing the swelling. Hope this helps. Mel _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/ _ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2004 In a message dated 11/14/2004 10:28:02 PM Central Standard Time, SassyNpink@... writes: It is buddy taped to the next toe (it is the second toe) with a bit of cotton in between (I am using one of those makeup remover cotton pieces). It is all ugly and bruised, but no swelling, but with the coban around it maybe it can't swell? An ice pack will still help even if it has been more than a couple days? huh. Thanks!! ____________________________________________________ Yep, Ice will help. Even with no swelling it will decrease the pain sensation some. Sometimes the swelling isn't real evident but elavating it will usually help the pain. When people complained of Feet or legs hurting at night, I would usually find they had thier foot(or whatever) off of the pillows or elevating it further helped. Also a little ibuprofen might help. Are you taking a darvocett or anything for pain? If the pain is bad at night. Anticipating the pain might be good. And will help you sleep. Usually after a couple of days the docs say alternating heat and cold is a good idea.although some don't like heat because the thought is that it increases the circulation thus increasing the swelling. Hope this helps. Mel _http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/ _ (http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 29, 2004 Hey girl! Happy happy birthday -- and beyond! My wishes for you this year are that it will be unparalleled!!! You'll have such success in your life with your new body image. You'll make Hallie jealous. And you'll be much sought-after by many arduous admirers. Enjoy the Vicodin. Hugs, Bobbe - <128 pounds> from 268.5 at DS 3/12/03. Highest weight 285 in '98 <145> Don't postpone joy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2004 Pat, That is sweet but she already belongs to the list. She reads the emails. -- **Wake me up from the nothing that I've become** -------------- Original message -------------- I have invited your friend Donna to join our group.Please tell her how much we would love to have her here,and she can ask all the questions she would like...I am the world worse to give out advice,as I knew nothing about the ds before I had it..I just knew that a friend had had it and I knew that I needed something other than the rny to get my life started over again... God bless, Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 19, 2004 In a message dated 12/19/2004 1:34:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, DS_Friends_Keshishian writes: Dear Tonnie, I am sorry to hear that you are still struggling - it has been too long. I pray you feel better very soon. I can only say I wish had not been silent. I wish we had no need to speculate. I don't know her motivation for silence - I wish she could have/would have shared her trials. hugs, cindy lee Why anyone would remain silent and not allow their trial and tribulations to be a lesson to others is sad and I just dont understand it personally. It was certainly NOT her fault in any way. I wish she would have shared it so OTHERS will not have the same fate. I am so glad to be healthy. I am so glad for Dee and others who have shared their troubles so that we all may learn from them and take best care of ourselves to avoid such hardships as these. Poor on. I hope he has the best life God has to offer him. Anne in Santee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
