Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Thanks, we plan a shopping trip this week, on vacation so it will be easier. Rose Combs rosecombs@... RE: Introduction > > > Rose, yet one more thing, you don't have to give up salad dressing at all, > just use the ones without sugar. > > You are gonna have to have a sighted person label read for you, > but you can > get dressings that are not bad in carbs and that do not have sugar, the > Newman dressings are very good. You can make some delicious dressings, > too, that fit the diet well and are really good. > > Take some red wine vinegar, cut up three jalapeno peppers and let > them soak > in the vinegar for a month. Make a dressing out of the vinegar, > some olive > oil and a big bunch of herbs, your choice, no carbs to speak of > and it will > be delicious. > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 I have to convince my husband there is more than one type of vinegar, he always gets the plain variety. Rose Combs rosecombs@... Introduction Hi Rose, I don't really know whether balsamic vinegar has a lot of anything, probably not; but, I like sprinkling it on salads instead of dressing. You put just a little on. Be sure to get a good quality balsamic vinegar though. Thanks, Walt M:I:SD:SP:D:BA NCFB A5 445 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Thanks, I can''t deny it, have worked in the medical field too long for that, don't want to lose a leg or something, I have enough problems without that. Rose Combs rosecombs@... re: Introduction Hi Rose, I can only imagine right now how overwhelmed you must feel since I haven't been there. I'm sure it's tough, but you seem to be handling it well. At least, you're taking all of the right stepss instead of denying the reality of your situation. As zeducated as you seem to be and as willing to learn as you obviously are, you will be fine. I'm sure it won't be easy changing your lifestyle, but I know you CAN and WILL do it. That's what this group is for both information and support. Take care, and hang in there. Best wishes, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 A few years ago my doctor suggested to lower cholesterol and lose some weight that my husband use his Dummy diet. Now, please don't hang me for this, this was his suggestion, I did it for about twelve weeks and got sick to death of it. DUMMY'S DIET Breakfast: one bagel, no spreads, no butter, just the bagel, any flavor. Morning snack: fresh fruit. Lunch: A low fat TV dinner Afternoon snack again fruit or yogurt. Evening meal: a low-fat TV dinner Bedtime snack a frozen yogurt bar, sorbet bar or something like this. His reasoning was that other than the fresh fruit, and maybe the bagel everything is already measured for you, you don't overeat unless you cheat. I had problems because so many of the low-fat dinners decided that either broccoli or mushrooms had to be in almost every meal. We did this for several weeks. At least a couple of nights a week we adapted one of our own meals. My husband discovered he makes a very good ground-turkey chili. Also ate several Subway turkey sandwiches and of course the cellery and carrots that were not on the plan. When the hospital had turkey I had some of that too. No dressing on that turkey, I never missed it since I never ate the dressing anyway. Now, I don't say you should go strictlywith this diet, but one thing a week on those dinners twice a day does give you a better ability to judge portion sizes--they are very small. Rose Combs rosecombs@... introduction Hi, I need to lose a considerable amount of weight. Not diabetic, totally blind and low on computer skills. Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Hi Rose, Not only will you have to convince your husband that there are several kinds of vinegars; but, you'll also have to convince him to not buy the cheapest balsamic vinegar. You should pass those $5 bottles by and spend about $20. This sounds a lot but a little of it goes a long way. I just sprinkle it over a salad or raw vegetables and it's a nice change. Balsamic vinegar is not as sour as regular vinegar's. Hope this helps, Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Hi Rose, I'd say the doctor who prescribed that diet was the dummy. It is nearly all carbohydrates, and whether the doctor will admit it or not, lowering carbohydrates is the only real way to cut cholesterol, lowering fat intake has minimal effect. The reason is that carbs in the diet convert into glucose in the blood. Insulin is released to take care of the glucose. Part of what it does is to drive the glucose into cells, causing you to get fatter. Another very bad side effect is that the insulin also drives other substances into cells, like fats and cholesterol. If you eat fats without carbs, the extra glucose is not there, the insulin is not produced and the fats and cholesterol are not driven into the cells, but are eliminated as they should be. When we eat foods that are both high fat and high carb, or even low fat and high carb, what fat there is becomes part of us instead of part of the sewer system. It has been demonstrated several times that eating a high protein, moderate fat and low carbohydrate diet lowers cholesterol and triglyceride levels. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Dropping a small handful of nuts in a salad is a nice change, too. Dan Graham has pointed out that walnuts may well be the best kind of nut to eat because of its high fiber content. Another nut which seems healthful is the pecan. I heard of a study last week which said that two ounces of pecans a day reduces cholesterol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Hi Rose, I certainly hope and pray that today is a better day for you. It's OK; everyone needs to vent sometimes. Hang in there! I know you will be all right! I'm so sorry your doggie died last spring. However, I am glad you're getting another one. Pets are such great companions, and I think having a pet is one of the best forms of therapy. I know it has been for me. Best wishes, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 Oh, Rose, I wish it was 92 degrees here. It's windy and cold here in PA right now. Anyway, I'm glad your blood sugar reading was good after you and your hubby had lunch and did some shopping and walking. Regards, Mindy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 I am a firm believer in walking, I have lost 55lbs, of course trying to watch my food intake, NEVER skip a meal. Mindy and Rose it is 24 degrees in Missouri this morning! Enjoy your list very much, Alice RE: Introduction > Oh, Rose, I wish it was 92 degrees here. It's windy and cold here in PA right now. Anyway, I'm glad your blood sugar reading was good after you and your hubby had lunch and did some shopping and walking. > > Regards, > Mindy. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 It is about 70 in Phx this morning and those Yanks are complaining about everything. Can't believe they relish restaurants where a suit is a prerequisite and, it will be about 93 here at game time, yet they make fun of our air-conditioning. Geesh, we should open the roof and let them play in the heat, we'd win for sure. Rose Combs rosecombs@... Re: Introduction I am a firm believer in walking, I have lost 55lbs, of course trying to watch my food intake, NEVER skip a meal. Mindy and Rose it is 24 degrees in Missouri this morning! Enjoy your list very much, Alice RE: Introduction > Oh, Rose, I wish it was 92 degrees here. It's windy and cold here in PA right now. Anyway, I'm glad your blood sugar reading was good after you and your hubby had lunch and did some shopping and walking. > > Regards, > Mindy. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 Greetings to you! I have a brother who lives in Mesa, and is glad to be there ( I think) However, he does like to spend the summer here~---good luck to the Diamond Backs Back to the basics: We have a diabetic family and certainly know it is a silent killer! Alice in Missouri RE: Introduction > > > > Oh, Rose, I wish it was 92 degrees here. It's windy and cold here in PA > right now. Anyway, I'm glad your blood sugar reading was good after you and > your hubby had lunch and did some shopping and walking. > > > > Regards, > > Mindy. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2001 Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 I sure with I could lave in the summer. My mom's side of the family has diabetes and heart disease and Dad had a heart attack at age 53. Rose Combs I sure wish I could leave here in the summer, but no go. My grandfather had diabetes as well as some of his brothers, on mymother's side, but so far as I know non of Mom'd brothers or sisters have had the disease. My dad's side of the family has hert disease. rosecombs@... Re: Introduction Greetings to you! I have a brother who lives in Mesa, and is glad to be there ( I think) However, he does like to spend the summer here~---good luck to the Diamond Backs Back to the basics: We have a diabetic family and certainly know it is a silent killer! Alice in Missouri RE: Introduction > > > > Oh, Rose, I wish it was 92 degrees here. It's windy and cold here in PA > right now. Anyway, I'm glad your blood sugar reading was good after you and > your hubby had lunch and did some shopping and walking. > > > > Regards, > > Mindy. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Have you asked your doctor about Glucafage XR? I take that and (except for a few incidents) it's keeping my sugar in a manageable area. Jim " Turtle " Prather MSB--1974 CMU--1980 james_prather@... YM: jpratherjr@... MSNIM: japrather@... Let's Go Blue!!! Fire Up Chips!!! Go Green, Go White!!! Long Live the EMU Hurons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Welcome to the group. Your message is going out to the group. introduction > I have type II diabetes, and I would like to know the best medications to > treat this disease. > This is also a test message to see if it is being posted to the right list > serve. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Hi Harry, As a rule, type two diabetics use Glucophage if they need oral meds. It works on both the liver and small intestine to limit carbohydrate absorbtion. Some doctors recommend Glucovance and other drugs that fall into the category of what are called sulphonylurea medications. These beat up on the pancreas' beta cells to force them to produce more insulin, and end up burning them out, turning the person into a type one diabetic who is totally insulin dependent. Avoid those. Many doctors will also give a diabetic patient one of the blood pressure drugs like Quanipril or Cozaar, these help counteract he negative effects of diabetes on the kidneys and heart. Many type twos also use several supplements that they find help lower glucose levels a lot, the most popular is alpha Lipoic acid, 600 to 1500 mg/day. Another popular supplement for this is chromium piccolonate, 1000 mcg/day. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 I am still using the old Diabeta (glyburide) med, which I have used for 14 years, only now I am using 10mg BID instead of the 2.5mg BID that I started with 14 years ago. Also in 1996 I was placed on Rezulin, but later was switched to Actos30Mg per day, but six months ago increased to 45mg per day. I have tried chromium piccolonate, 1000 mcg/day., but it seemed to make no difference after 3 months of use. My son also discovered last year that he has diabetes type II and he was placed on Glucophage only. His lowest glucose level he has achieved to date is a fasting glucose level of 240, and I wonder why his doctor doesn't place him on Actos before placing him on insulin shots, which he says he will have to start within the next month or so, if things don't change. Re: introduction > Hi Harry, > > As a rule, type two diabetics use Glucophage if they need oral meds. It > works on both the liver and small intestine to limit carbohydrate > absorbtion. Some doctors recommend Glucovance and other drugs that fall > into the category of what are called sulphonylurea medications. These beat > up on the pancreas' beta cells to force them to produce more insulin, and > end up burning them out, turning the person into a type one diabetic who is > totally insulin dependent. Avoid those. > > Many doctors will also give a diabetic patient one of the blood pressure > drugs like Quanipril or Cozaar, these help counteract he negative effects > of diabetes on the kidneys and heart. > > Many type twos also use several supplements that they find help lower > glucose levels a lot, the most popular is alpha Lipoic acid, 600 to 1500 > mg/day. Another popular supplement for this is chromium piccolonate, 1000 > mcg/day. > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Harry, as you correctly observe, a fasting level of 240 is totally unacceptible. How about a very low carbohydrate diet? None of this American Diabetes Association crap, go for Bernstein's book, The Diabetes Solution. I manage to keep the levels below 120 with Glucophage and a fairly restricted diet, beats hell out of taking insulin. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Is there an ASCII text copy of this book available?: Bernstein's book, The Diabetes Solution. Re: introduction > Harry, as you correctly observe, a fasting level of 240 is totally > unacceptible. How about a very low carbohydrate diet? None of this > American Diabetes Association crap, go for Bernstein's book, The > Diabetes Solution. I manage to keep the levels below 120 with Glucophage > and a fairly restricted diet, beats hell out of taking insulin. > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Not that I know of, Harry, but if you have a scanner, you could produce one with little trouble. It goes into extensive detail about many aspects of the diabetic's life, and a lot of good information on the low carbohydrate diet with good biochemical information and explanations of why it is by far the best diet for diabetics who do not have damaged kidneys. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Oh, Drats!, I have a scanner, but I don't yet know how to use it. I will see if someone else has a way to copy this book in text format. Re: introduction > Not that I know of, Harry, but if you have a scanner, you could produce one > with little trouble. It goes into extensive detail about many aspects of > the diabetic's life, and a lot of good information on the low carbohydrate > diet with good biochemical information and explanations of why it is by far > the best diet for diabetics who do not have damaged kidneys. > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 You should ask your doctor, a lot depends on how much you are willing to control your sugars with eating etc. LaWanda 12:58 PM 1/4/02 -0500, you wrote: >I have type II diabetes, and I would like to know the best medications to >treat this disease. >This is also a test message to see if it is being posted to the right list >serve. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Is Dr. Burnstein's book available in braille or on computer disk? Jim " Turtle " Prather MSB--1974 CMU--1980 james_prather@... YM: jpratherjr@... MSNIM: japrather@... Let's Go Blue!!! Fire Up Chips!!! Go Green, Go White!!! Long Live the EMU Hurons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 I don't want to disillusion you, but I have found that most physicians are not up to date on what is the best for diabetics. My last doctor of internal medicine, finally admitted to me that I probably read more medical journals than he did. In fact I had to educate him regarding Rezulin, Actos and Diabeta as well as my diet and about many helpful supplements, which I won't go into here. It is better to ask a diabetic, who has experienced dealing with the disease personally, rather than a physician. I will now only consult a physician, when I need him to run some specific test and prescribe needed meds, and if he is unwilling to do so, then I fire him/her. Re: introduction > You should ask your doctor, a lot depends on how much you are willing to > control your sugars with eating etc. LaWanda 12:58 PM 1/4/02 -0500, you > wrote: > >I have type II diabetes, and I would like to know the best medications to > >treat this disease. > >This is also a test message to see if it is being posted to the right list > >serve. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Harry, this is quite true, and a sad truth, too boot. Most doctors do not know the half about diabetes. Mine thinks a blood glucose reading of 214 is just fine, he is nuts. I order my own tests from his nurse and tell her which prescriptions to have him write and he simply does what I tell him to because I am the expert on my particular diabetes, just as everyone with the disease must be. We cannot trust doctors to do the best for us, not because they are malicious, but because they simply cannot keep up, and frankly, because they think the American Diabetes Association has good information, which it does not. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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