Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 Billie!!! I'm glad to see you join us here! There is a lot of information on here and some really great people! You will like it here!!! Right Guys??? Uh oh, there goes my Western Pennsylvania accent again! Darn! Jowee introduction > Hi, > > I'm Billie and I live in West Texas. > > I've had diabetes for twenty nine years next week and I've been blind > from it for about eight and a half years. > > I found out about this list from a good friend, thanks jowee. > > It looks like a real good list! > > Billie > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 Hi Jowee! yeah, I've already seen a lot of info! and I like it! howdy Jowee! Billie On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:05:21 -0500 " Jowee " writes: > Billie!!! > > I'm glad to see you join us here! There is a lot of information on > here and > some really great people! You will like it here!!! Right Guys??? > Uh oh, > there goes my Western Pennsylvania accent again! Darn! > > Jowee > introduction > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm Billie and I live in West Texas. > > > > I've had diabetes for twenty nine years next week and I've been > blind > > from it for about eight and a half years. > > > > I found out about this list from a good friend, thanks jowee. > > > > It looks like a real good list! > > > > Billie > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Hi Dave! I'm Billie and I live in West Texas. I am blind from diabetes for nearly nine years now. I live here with my two birds, Zoe and t Bird! They keep me laughing. Welcome to the list! On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:30:15 -0400 " Dave Anspach " writes: > > Hi Everyone, > Well, I've been on the list for a few days now so I thought I would > introduce myself. > > My name is Dave and I am 34 years old. I have had diabetes since > the age of > 7 and lost my sight in early 1991. > > I recently moved from the cold, snowy, windy winters of the Midwest, > more > specifically Indiana, for the warmth and sunshine of Florida. I'm > now > living on the gulf coast in St. sburg. > > I also have a 4 year old, well he's almost 4 <grin>, male yellow lab > named > Traverse. He is my second dog guide from Leader Dogs in Rochester, > Michigan. As my tag line indicates, he is very mellow and laid > back. I > guess that must be an indication of my personality since they work > hard to > match the personality of a dog guide with it's new handler <lol>. > > Looking forward to getting to know everyone on the list and > contributing as > well... > > Dave > > Dave and Traverse....the original MellowDog > An idle mind is...........................The best way to relax > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 Hi Billie, Thank you for the welcome. Dave Dave and Traverse....the original MellowDog An idle mind is...........................The best way to relax Re: Introduction Hi Dave! I'm Billie and I live in West Texas. I am blind from diabetes for nearly nine years now. I live here with my two birds, Zoe and t Bird! They keep me laughing. Welcome to the list! On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:30:15 -0400 " Dave Anspach " writes: > > Hi Everyone, > Well, I've been on the list for a few days now so I thought I would > introduce myself. > > My name is Dave and I am 34 years old. I have had diabetes since > the age of > 7 and lost my sight in early 1991. > > I recently moved from the cold, snowy, windy winters of the Midwest, > more > specifically Indiana, for the warmth and sunshine of Florida. I'm > now > living on the gulf coast in St. sburg. > > I also have a 4 year old, well he's almost 4 <grin>, male yellow lab > named > Traverse. He is my second dog guide from Leader Dogs in Rochester, > Michigan. As my tag line indicates, he is very mellow and laid > back. I > guess that must be an indication of my personality since they work > hard to > match the personality of a dog guide with it's new handler <lol>. > > Looking forward to getting to know everyone on the list and > contributing as > well... > > Dave > > Dave and Traverse....the original MellowDog > An idle mind is...........................The best way to relax > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 welcome to the list, dave and all the other newbys. this is a neat list judy At 11:30 PM 04/25/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Everyone, >Well, I've been on the list for a few days now so I thought I would >introduce myself. > >My name is Dave and I am 34 years old. I have had diabetes since the age of >7 and lost my sight in early 1991. > >I recently moved from the cold, snowy, windy winters of the Midwest, more >specifically Indiana, for the warmth and sunshine of Florida. I'm now >living on the gulf coast in St. sburg. > >I also have a 4 year old, well he's almost 4 <grin>, male yellow lab named >Traverse. He is my second dog guide from Leader Dogs in Rochester, >Michigan. As my tag line indicates, he is very mellow and laid back. I >guess that must be an indication of my personality since they work hard to >match the personality of a dog guide with it's new handler <lol>. > >Looking forward to getting to know everyone on the list and contributing as >well... > >Dave > >Dave and Traverse....the original MellowDog >An idle mind is...........................The best way to relax > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Hi Margarita, Welcome to the droup. I do not have diabetes, but I do have a family history of it. My mother, my mother's father, and my paternal grandmother all have diabetes. I am totally blind, and I really should lose some weight. I have not been in the group very long, but I do enjoy it. It is definitely a good sourse of information. Welcome to the group, and enjoy!! Regards, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Rose, We are all here for you. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago, and realized there was not much of a blind-diabetics group available. So I started one. Later on, probably this coming Thursday, I will compile a list of other great diabetic email lists that might help you and the rest of the group. In the meantime, I'll talk to you all later. At 06:06 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, My name is Rose and I was diagnosed with diabetes type II Thursday of >last week. > >I am a 49-year-old blind woman working as a medical transcriptionist for >over 25 years so I am familiar with most of the diabetic medications, >treatments, complications and the need to take care of yourself for >yourself, however, it feels a lot different having it happening to me >instead of the patient's I type reports on. > >We got a glucometer, Lifescan Sure Step, and the speech module should be >arriving soon. For the current time my husband is reading for me but I am >learning how to be sure there is blood on the strips and such--not an easy >task, but with the Sure Step I have at least you don't have to use the drop >technique, you can sort of paint it on. > >So far on Glucotrol. I have not had nutrition teaching yet, but found out >today that I can get it through the hospital with insurance paying 100% of >the cost will be calling them tomorrow to set up something. > >I have also read about five braille books on the subject in the past two >weeks, feel a bit overloaded but smarter than I was two weeks ago. > >Have been reading THE ART OF COOKING FOR THE DIABETIC it has some really >good recipes in it. I have never been much on seafood--my idea of fish from >earliest childhood has been that it is fish when it is fried in cornmeal >with lots of pepper and some salt, however, I have seen some recipes in the >book that tempt me. > >My wake up call came a few weeks ago. I had suspected that I might have >diabetes because I had been drinking lots of water and going to the bathroom >a lot, but about five weeks ago I had a severe case of hives and they were >so extreme that I was placed on a prednisone taper. For those of you who >may not know, prednisone is a steroid, and it tends to play havoc with blood >sugar. About two days after I started the medication the thumb, second and >third fingers of my left hand felt like they were asleep but it didn't go >away for two days, then it gradually got better. I looked up all the >medications I was currently on and when I didn't see any mention of >side-effects like that my thought was " Oh, no, neuropathy already. " I >called and got a script for lab work and here I am. Fortunately the >numbness has gone and the doctor said that I should not be bothered by it >again, but he does wonder what my sugar was when that happened, we think >pretty high. > >I figure I am too young to have massive complications so hope to be able to >learn and put into practice what I learn, knowing that it won't be easy for >a fast food junkie who hates diet cola and really craves a " real " coke about >now. > > >Rose Combs >rosecombs@... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose, I'm Billie. Welcome to the list. Your name seems very familiar to me. But I can't place where we may have run across each other before! this is a great list! Billie Re: Introduction > Rose, We are all here for you. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago, > and realized there was not much of a blind-diabetics group available. So I > started one. Later on, probably this coming Thursday, I will compile a > list of other great diabetic email lists that might help you and the rest > of the group. In the meantime, I'll talk to you all later. > At 06:06 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello, My name is Rose and I was diagnosed with diabetes type II Thursday of > >last week. > > > >I am a 49-year-old blind woman working as a medical transcriptionist for > >over 25 years so I am familiar with most of the diabetic medications, > >treatments, complications and the need to take care of yourself for > >yourself, however, it feels a lot different having it happening to me > >instead of the patient's I type reports on. > > > >We got a glucometer, Lifescan Sure Step, and the speech module should be > >arriving soon. For the current time my husband is reading for me but I am > >learning how to be sure there is blood on the strips and such--not an easy > >task, but with the Sure Step I have at least you don't have to use the drop > >technique, you can sort of paint it on. > > > >So far on Glucotrol. I have not had nutrition teaching yet, but found out > >today that I can get it through the hospital with insurance paying 100% of > >the cost will be calling them tomorrow to set up something. > > > >I have also read about five braille books on the subject in the past two > >weeks, feel a bit overloaded but smarter than I was two weeks ago. > > > >Have been reading THE ART OF COOKING FOR THE DIABETIC it has some really > >good recipes in it. I have never been much on seafood--my idea of fish from > >earliest childhood has been that it is fish when it is fried in cornmeal > >with lots of pepper and some salt, however, I have seen some recipes in the > >book that tempt me. > > > >My wake up call came a few weeks ago. I had suspected that I might have > >diabetes because I had been drinking lots of water and going to the bathroom > >a lot, but about five weeks ago I had a severe case of hives and they were > >so extreme that I was placed on a prednisone taper. For those of you who > >may not know, prednisone is a steroid, and it tends to play havoc with blood > >sugar. About two days after I started the medication the thumb, second and > >third fingers of my left hand felt like they were asleep but it didn't go > >away for two days, then it gradually got better. I looked up all the > >medications I was currently on and when I didn't see any mention of > >side-effects like that my thought was " Oh, no, neuropathy already. " I > >called and got a script for lab work and here I am. Fortunately the > >numbness has gone and the doctor said that I should not be bothered by it > >again, but he does wonder what my sugar was when that happened, we think > >pretty high. > > > >I figure I am too young to have massive complications so hope to be able to > >learn and put into practice what I learn, knowing that it won't be easy for > >a fast food junkie who hates diet cola and really craves a " real " coke about > >now. > > > > > >Rose Combs > >rosecombs@... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose, I won't welcome you to the world of type two diabetes, though you are here. Nobody wants to be here, but there are ways for you to make it very much easier on yourself. I fear fast food will pretty much be a thing of the past, though you can eat a burger and leave off the bun, it's a pain, but avoiding the carbohydrates in the bun can mean saving a blood glucose spike. The sugared Coke and fries are out altogether, sadly. I would have a discussion with my doctor about your med, if I were you. Glucotrol is one of the sulfonuria type of drugs. It supercharges the beta cells in the pancreas, forcing them to produce what they are pretty reluctant to do in us type twos. It is also highly suspected of causing minor heart problems. Most type twos find that if they continue to use Glucotrol, after a few years, they become insulin dependent because the pancreas has been burnt out by the drug. In my opinion, a better choice is Glucophage, or metformin, the generic name. Glucophage works with the liver to help the body get rid of glucose in the blood and use what insulin there is more efficiently without stimulating the pancreas to produce beyond its ability. My blood glucose used to run in the high 300s, very bad, but with a very low carbohydrate diet, 2000 mg of glucophage a day and some very specific supplements, it runs around 105 now, quite acceptible. You may wish to consider two supplements that are very strongly recommended by people in the know about blood sugar levels, alpha lipoic acid and chromium piccolonate. I take 600 mg of timed release alpha lipoic acid a day and 500 mcg of chromium piccolonate, both from iherb.com, the best prices are there. However, the biggest thing that will keep you from getting the side effects of diabetes will be your diet. Unfortunately, the American Diabetes Association advocates a diet that contains far too many carbohydrates for good blood sugar control. I suggest two books for you to get, scan in and listen to, Protein Power by and Eads, and The Diabetes Solution, by Dr. K. Bernstein. The second book is the very best in the entire field of diabetes. Bernstein is a brittle type one and is under very good control. He has many things to say to us type twos about meds, monitoring and diet/exercise. I cannot recommend the book highly enough. Many doctors will not agree with the need for a very low carbohydrate diet, this is because they are far too hung up on low fat diets, which generally do not work and are actively harmful for many diabetics. Depending on exercise, you probably want your carbohydrate intake to be less than 30 grams a day. If you get a goodly amount of exercise, you might get away with three times that much. This means restricting many carbs like potatoes, grains/breads, pastas, beans and legumes and starchy vegetables like carrots and lima beans. (But, who likes lima beans, right?) However, there are loads of foods you can still eat. You can even buy very high quality chocolate made with Splenda over the web that has almost no carbohydrate in it at all. So, you don't have to give up things you like in some respects, but some probably will have to go. I miss bread more than anything else, sugar was not really a problem, but bread, goddess do I love bread, and it is a no-no. A slice of bread will raise my blood glucose as much as two tablespoons of sugar...I've measured it. Most type twos find this to be true, hence Bernstein and the Eads both recommend abandoning bread. Anyway, take it as a challenge to find interesting and tasty things to eat, you'll discover there is quite an assortment out there. Good luck, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 i have been on several technology lists, blind-X and some of the NFB lists. Before that in about 1996 I was on CompuServe and before that i was on Genie. Have about eight years of online travels so far. Rose Combs rosecombs@... Re: Introduction Hi Rose, I'm Billie. Welcome to the list. Your name seems very familiar to me. But I can't place where we may have run across each other before! this is a great list! Billie Re: Introduction > Rose, We are all here for you. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago, > and realized there was not much of a blind-diabetics group available. So I > started one. Later on, probably this coming Thursday, I will compile a > list of other great diabetic email lists that might help you and the rest > of the group. In the meantime, I'll talk to you all later. > At 06:06 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello, My name is Rose and I was diagnosed with diabetes type II Thursday of > >last week. > > > >I am a 49-year-old blind woman working as a medical transcriptionist for > >over 25 years so I am familiar with most of the diabetic medications, > >treatments, complications and the need to take care of yourself for > >yourself, however, it feels a lot different having it happening to me > >instead of the patient's I type reports on. > > > >We got a glucometer, Lifescan Sure Step, and the speech module should be > >arriving soon. For the current time my husband is reading for me but I am > >learning how to be sure there is blood on the strips and such--not an easy > >task, but with the Sure Step I have at least you don't have to use the drop > >technique, you can sort of paint it on. > > > >So far on Glucotrol. I have not had nutrition teaching yet, but found out > >today that I can get it through the hospital with insurance paying 100% of > >the cost will be calling them tomorrow to set up something. > > > >I have also read about five braille books on the subject in the past two > >weeks, feel a bit overloaded but smarter than I was two weeks ago. > > > >Have been reading THE ART OF COOKING FOR THE DIABETIC it has some really > >good recipes in it. I have never been much on seafood--my idea of fish from > >earliest childhood has been that it is fish when it is fried in cornmeal > >with lots of pepper and some salt, however, I have seen some recipes in the > >book that tempt me. > > > >My wake up call came a few weeks ago. I had suspected that I might have > >diabetes because I had been drinking lots of water and going to the bathroom > >a lot, but about five weeks ago I had a severe case of hives and they were > >so extreme that I was placed on a prednisone taper. For those of you who > >may not know, prednisone is a steroid, and it tends to play havoc with blood > >sugar. About two days after I started the medication the thumb, second and > >third fingers of my left hand felt like they were asleep but it didn't go > >away for two days, then it gradually got better. I looked up all the > >medications I was currently on and when I didn't see any mention of > >side-effects like that my thought was " Oh, no, neuropathy already. " I > >called and got a script for lab work and here I am. Fortunately the > >numbness has gone and the doctor said that I should not be bothered by it > >again, but he does wonder what my sugar was when that happened, we think > >pretty high. > > > >I figure I am too young to have massive complications so hope to be able to > >learn and put into practice what I learn, knowing that it won't be easy for > >a fast food junkie who hates diet cola and really craves a " real " coke about > >now. > > > > > >Rose Combs > >rosecombs@... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 I am certainly no nutrition expert, however, I don't believe low carbohydrate diets are really the complete answer. I can't help but think a well balanced diet with some foods from all the food groups--I know I am showing my age here, is probablythe most manageable, the type of lifestyle change we can live comfortably with, I am not in favor at this point anyway of eliminating any specific grouping completely from the diet I feel that this is the reason so many people don't follow a good diet is because they feel so very restricted. If, for example I never, ever ate bread, some day maybe in a few days, weeks, or months I might slide and then eat too much of it, besides, whole-grain breads are good for you. However, I can state, I am not the expert, and will be taking classes soon but I tend to believe you are less likely to have major falling off the wagon episodes if you are eating less but a well-balance diet. To each their own--if it works for you and you can tolerate all the restrictions then go for it. I have added problems because I have an allergy to citrus fruits, will not under any circumstances eat broccoli or liver I don't care how many people tell me I should those two foods are never going to be or have been part of my meal plan. I don't think, after five days that the Glucotrol is doing much good anyway,. I will speak about it because I certainly don't want to do insulin, finger sticks are bad enough. Rose Combs rosecombs@... Re: Introduction Hi Rose, I won't welcome you to the world of type two diabetes, though you are here. Nobody wants to be here, but there are ways for you to make it very much easier on yourself. I fear fast food will pretty much be a thing of the past, though you can eat a burger and leave off the bun, it's a pain, but avoiding the carbohydrates in the bun can mean saving a blood glucose spike. The sugared Coke and fries are out altogether, sadly. I would have a discussion with my doctor about your med, if I were you. Glucotrol is one of the sulfonuria type of drugs. It supercharges the beta cells in the pancreas, forcing them to produce what they are pretty reluctant to do in us type twos. It is also highly suspected of causing minor heart problems. Most type twos find that if they continue to use Glucotrol, after a few years, they become insulin dependent because the pancreas has been burnt out by the drug. In my opinion, a better choice is Glucophage, or metformin, the generic name. Glucophage works with the liver to help the body get rid of glucose in the blood and use what insulin there is more efficiently without stimulating the pancreas to produce beyond its ability. My blood glucose used to run in the high 300s, very bad, but with a very low carbohydrate diet, 2000 mg of glucophage a day and some very specific supplements, it runs around 105 now, quite acceptible. You may wish to consider two supplements that are very strongly recommended by people in the know about blood sugar levels, alpha lipoic acid and chromium piccolonate. I take 600 mg of timed release alpha lipoic acid a day and 500 mcg of chromium piccolonate, both from iherb.com, the best prices are there. However, the biggest thing that will keep you from getting the side effects of diabetes will be your diet. Unfortunately, the American Diabetes Association advocates a diet that contains far too many carbohydrates for good blood sugar control. I suggest two books for you to get, scan in and listen to, Protein Power by and Eads, and The Diabetes Solution, by Dr. K. Bernstein. The second book is the very best in the entire field of diabetes. Bernstein is a brittle type one and is under very good control. He has many things to say to us type twos about meds, monitoring and diet/exercise. I cannot recommend the book highly enough. Many doctors will not agree with the need for a very low carbohydrate diet, this is because they are far too hung up on low fat diets, which generally do not work and are actively harmful for many diabetics. Depending on exercise, you probably want your carbohydrate intake to be less than 30 grams a day. If you get a goodly amount of exercise, you might get away with three times that much. This means restricting many carbs like potatoes, grains/breads, pastas, beans and legumes and starchy vegetables like carrots and lima beans. (But, who likes lima beans, right?) However, there are loads of foods you can still eat. You can even buy very high quality chocolate made with Splenda over the web that has almost no carbohydrate in it at all. So, you don't have to give up things you like in some respects, but some probably will have to go. I miss bread more than anything else, sugar was not really a problem, but bread, goddess do I love bread, and it is a no-no. A slice of bread will raise my blood glucose as much as two tablespoons of sugar...I've measured it. Most type twos find this to be true, hence Bernstein and the Eads both recommend abandoning bread. Anyway, take it as a challenge to find interesting and tasty things to eat, you'll discover there is quite an assortment out there. Good luck, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose, unfortunately, with diabetes, your body is not in balance, so sticking to a balanced diet will not work. If your body was in balance, you'd be absolutely right. I do not advocate eliminating carbohydrates, just cutting them back seriously. If you read Protein Power, a very thorough discussion is given of the biochemistry of carbohydrate digestion and blood sugar regulation and how it can be mangled for diabetics who use too many carbs. Whole grain breads are good for you if you are not a diabetic. Their glycemic index is high enough so your body treats the starch in them almost as it would an equivalent amount of white sugar. All carbohydrates are converted in to sugar, sooner or later, it is the only result for carbs in the diet. Some foods are converted to sugar far slower than others, the measure of how rapidly this happens is called the Glycemic Index. Whole grain bread does contain useful nutrients, but the starches are converted to sugar fairly quickly. As for the deprivation angle, that is a problem, no question. The low carb diets do not advocate cutting back on total food intake at all, just certain kinds of foods. Cravings can be hard to handle, the results of an unstable blood glucose level are a lot harder to handle, though. Believe me, I dislike many of the restrictions, and some new products help make those not so onerous, but to be honest, the alternative is not at all to my liking, so I do the low carb diet. Good luck in however you proceed, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose, I tend to agree with you. Anything in moderation is all right. There are certain foods that will cause my sugar to rise. Pizza, speghetti and sause. But potatos don't do anything to my sugar. I eat lyma beans and mexican dinners. I also eat fast foods when I want. I am still on oral medication and I have been a diabetic for 12 years. my last 3 months test was 5.6. So I think that diabetes is a very individual disease. Dan has some good points, but carbs are not as bad as he paints them in my opinion. Dave > I am certainly no nutrition expert, however, I don't believe low > carbohydrate diets are really the complete answer. I can't help but think a > well balanced diet with some foods from all the food groups--I know I am > showing my age here, is probablythe most manageable, the type of lifestyle > change we can live comfortably with, I am not in favor at this point anyway > of eliminating any specific grouping completely from the diet I feel that > this is the reason so many people don't follow a good diet is because they > feel so very restricted. > > If, for example I never, ever ate bread, some day maybe in a few days, > weeks, or months I might slide and then eat too much of it, besides, > whole-grain breads are good for you. > > However, I can state, I am not the expert, and will be taking classes soon > but I tend to believe you are less likely to have major falling off the > wagon episodes if you are eating less but a well-balance diet. > > To each their own--if it works for you and you can tolerate all the > restrictions then go for it. > > I have added problems because I have an allergy to citrus fruits, will not > under any circumstances eat broccoli or liver I don't care how many people > tell me I should those two foods are never going to be or have been part of > my meal plan. > > I don't think, after five days that the Glucotrol is doing much good > anyway,. I will speak about it because I certainly don't want to do > insulin, finger sticks are bad enough. > > > > Rose Combs > rosecombs@... > > > Re: Introduction > > > Hi Rose, I won't welcome you to the world of type two diabetes, though you > are here. Nobody wants to be here, but there are ways for you to make it > very much easier on yourself. > > I fear fast food will pretty much be a thing of the past, though you can > eat a burger and leave off the bun, it's a pain, but avoiding the > carbohydrates in the bun can mean saving a blood glucose spike. The > sugared Coke and fries are out altogether, sadly. > > I would have a discussion with my doctor about your med, if I were you. > Glucotrol is one of the sulfonuria type of drugs. It supercharges the beta > cells in the pancreas, forcing them to produce what they are pretty > reluctant to do in us type twos. It is also highly suspected of causing > minor heart problems. > > Most type twos find that if they continue to use Glucotrol, after a few > years, they become insulin dependent because the pancreas has been burnt > out by the drug. > > In my opinion, a better choice is Glucophage, or metformin, the generic > name. Glucophage works with the liver to help the body get rid of glucose > in the blood and use what insulin there is more efficiently without > stimulating the pancreas to produce beyond its ability. > > My blood glucose used to run in the high 300s, very bad, but with a very > low carbohydrate diet, 2000 mg of glucophage a day and some very specific > supplements, it runs around 105 now, quite acceptible. > > You may wish to consider two supplements that are very strongly recommended > by people in the know about blood sugar levels, alpha lipoic acid and > chromium piccolonate. > > I take 600 mg of timed release alpha lipoic acid a day and 500 mcg of > chromium piccolonate, both from iherb.com, the best prices are there. > > However, the biggest thing that will keep you from getting the side effects > of diabetes will be your diet. > > Unfortunately, the American Diabetes Association advocates a diet that > contains far too many carbohydrates for good blood sugar control. > > I suggest two books for you to get, scan in and listen to, Protein Power by > and Eads, and The Diabetes Solution, by Dr. K. > Bernstein. > > The second book is the very best in the entire field of diabetes. > Bernstein is a brittle type one and is under very good control. He has > many things to say to us type twos about meds, monitoring and > diet/exercise. I cannot recommend the book highly enough. > > Many doctors will not agree with the need for a very low carbohydrate diet, > this is because they are far too hung up on low fat diets, which generally > do not work and are actively harmful for many diabetics. > > Depending on exercise, you probably want your carbohydrate intake to be > less than 30 grams a day. If you get a goodly amount of exercise, you > might get away with three times that much. This means restricting many > carbs like potatoes, grains/breads, pastas, beans and legumes and starchy > vegetables like carrots and lima beans. (But, who likes lima beans, right?) > > However, there are loads of foods you can still eat. You can even buy very > high quality chocolate made with Splenda over the web that has almost no > carbohydrate in it at all. So, you don't have to give up things you like > in some respects, but some probably will have to go. > > I miss bread more than anything else, sugar was not really a problem, but > bread, goddess do I love bread, and it is a no-no. A slice of bread will > raise my blood glucose as much as two tablespoons of sugar...I've measured > it. Most type twos find this to be true, hence Bernstein and the Eads both > recommend abandoning bread. > > Anyway, take it as a challenge to find interesting and tasty things to eat, > you'll discover there is quite an assortment out there. > > Good luck, > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Dave brings up a good point, different people will respond to different carbohydrate foods in various ways, testing is the only way to really pin this down. I can eat pizza, too with no effect, but three French fries and my BG goes up fifteen points, half a baked potato brings it up 30 points. The majority of type two diabetics who use a from of low carbohydrate diet do well on it, but it is, indeed, an individual matter. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 My scanner is hooked to my husband's computer at the monent, and last I knew he was working on a project for his school so I cannot move it for some time to come. I am not really into scanning and cleaning up books. Sorry, I have to vent! At this moment, after taking a look around my cabinets and fridge I am very down. It looks like everything is taboo, yet we have to eat, if it looks like cardboard, feels like cardboard and tastes like cardboard it is probably safe--but, variety is the spice of life for me. I am going to luch with my aunt and uncle today they are winter visitors--and they want Mexican food which I cannot completely give up, might as well go play in the middle of the freeway if that is the case. I have been sitting here thinking about the menu and have decided that water and sulsa with nothing to put it on are my best choices--not practical at all. This eating so many times a day in itself is depressing for me, it means my mind is on food more than ever, and I was one of those who skipped breakfast whenever I had days off, could eat one meal a day--not all that large either, and be perfectly happy to only think of that one meal. I had a really bad day Sunday while at work, sick of drinking water because nothing fits the bill better, feeling like I was turning into a rabbit because of all the salad I have been eating--without dressing of any kine because of the choices available and no time to get to the store, having to say no to doughnuts --Krispi Krems-- really super in my book although I have only had a couple since they came to Arizona two years ago. Should I go dig in the dirt, I got yelled at for my apples--I can not eat oranges, grapefruit often, went into near anaphylactic shock from that once before--although that does seem like an option at this point. I can't give up eathing although it is very tempting at this point, yet anything I eat is going to turn to glucose, some things faster than others, I understand restricting things like bread to lesser amounts but to totally never eat it does not make sense. At this point I figure I am going to make the wrong choices no matter what I decide, so I am going to enjoy my lunch, even if I only eat one third of it and bring the rest home for the doggie I don't have--I am getting a pet dog on Saturday on the advise of my doctor, bosses, and a counselor I saw at thehospital. My pet labrador died last spring and part of me wanted another and part of me said " no more dogs, they just die on you and leave you alone. " I am staying away from the coke--although it is hard, and have not touched a fruit juice because what I have seen have more sugar than even coke, I am drinking a gallon of water a day or more--probably an exageration but it seems like it sometimes, have been avoiding fats as much as possible since weight loss is something I need, walking on the treadmill, walking on my breaks at work, and we ride a tandem bicycle everywhere we go because my husband cannot drive. Today I think is one of my being overwhelmed days, but, I have to get into a good mood before lunch, hopefully I can manage to be cheerful for a few short hours. Please don't tell me I cannot have salsa and something to put it on, I might as well just stop eating if that is my choice. Hmm, maybe a cactus will do, have plenty of them around. Rose Combs rosecombs@... RE: Introduction Hi Rose, unfortunately, with diabetes, your body is not in balance, so sticking to a balanced diet will not work. If your body was in balance, you'd be absolutely right. I do not advocate eliminating carbohydrates, just cutting them back seriously. If you read Protein Power, a very thorough discussion is given of the biochemistry of carbohydrate digestion and blood sugar regulation and how it can be mangled for diabetics who use too many carbs. Whole grain breads are good for you if you are not a diabetic. Their glycemic index is high enough so your body treats the starch in them almost as it would an equivalent amount of white sugar. All carbohydrates are converted in to sugar, sooner or later, it is the only result for carbs in the diet. Some foods are converted to sugar far slower than others, the measure of how rapidly this happens is called the Glycemic Index. Whole grain bread does contain useful nutrients, but the starches are converted to sugar fairly quickly. As for the deprivation angle, that is a problem, no question. The low carb diets do not advocate cutting back on total food intake at all, just certain kinds of foods. Cravings can be hard to handle, the results of an unstable blood glucose level are a lot harder to handle, though. Believe me, I dislike many of the restrictions, and some new products help make those not so onerous, but to be honest, the alternative is not at all to my liking, so I do the low carb diet. Good luck in however you proceed, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 What a relief, Mexican food! I can't imagine life without it and funnything is as a child I hated it as much as I hated and was afraid of large dogs. Have only had larger dogs as an adult. Isn't life funny? Rose Combs rosecombs@... Re: Introduction > > > Hi Rose, I won't welcome you to the world of type two diabetes, though you > are here. Nobody wants to be here, but there are ways for you to make it > very much easier on yourself. > > I fear fast food will pretty much be a thing of the past, though you can > eat a burger and leave off the bun, it's a pain, but avoiding the > carbohydrates in the bun can mean saving a blood glucose spike. The > sugared Coke and fries are out altogether, sadly. > > I would have a discussion with my doctor about your med, if I were you. > Glucotrol is one of the sulfonuria type of drugs. It supercharges the beta > cells in the pancreas, forcing them to produce what they are pretty > reluctant to do in us type twos. It is also highly suspected of causing > minor heart problems. > > Most type twos find that if they continue to use Glucotrol, after a few > years, they become insulin dependent because the pancreas has been burnt > out by the drug. > > In my opinion, a better choice is Glucophage, or metformin, the generic > name. Glucophage works with the liver to help the body get rid of glucose > in the blood and use what insulin there is more efficiently without > stimulating the pancreas to produce beyond its ability. > > My blood glucose used to run in the high 300s, very bad, but with a very > low carbohydrate diet, 2000 mg of glucophage a day and some very specific > supplements, it runs around 105 now, quite acceptible. > > You may wish to consider two supplements that are very strongly recommended > by people in the know about blood sugar levels, alpha lipoic acid and > chromium piccolonate. > > I take 600 mg of timed release alpha lipoic acid a day and 500 mcg of > chromium piccolonate, both from iherb.com, the best prices are there. > > However, the biggest thing that will keep you from getting the side effects > of diabetes will be your diet. > > Unfortunately, the American Diabetes Association advocates a diet that > contains far too many carbohydrates for good blood sugar control. > > I suggest two books for you to get, scan in and listen to, Protein Power by > and Eads, and The Diabetes Solution, by Dr. K. > Bernstein. > > The second book is the very best in the entire field of diabetes. > Bernstein is a brittle type one and is under very good control. He has > many things to say to us type twos about meds, monitoring and > diet/exercise. I cannot recommend the book highly enough. > > Many doctors will not agree with the need for a very low carbohydrate diet, > this is because they are far too hung up on low fat diets, which generally > do not work and are actively harmful for many diabetics. > > Depending on exercise, you probably want your carbohydrate intake to be > less than 30 grams a day. If you get a goodly amount of exercise, you > might get away with three times that much. This means restricting many > carbs like potatoes, grains/breads, pastas, beans and legumes and starchy > vegetables like carrots and lima beans. (But, who likes lima beans, right?) > > However, there are loads of foods you can still eat. You can even buy very > high quality chocolate made with Splenda over the web that has almost no > carbohydrate in it at all. So, you don't have to give up things you like > in some respects, but some probably will have to go. > > I miss bread more than anything else, sugar was not really a problem, but > bread, goddess do I love bread, and it is a no-no. A slice of bread will > raise my blood glucose as much as two tablespoons of sugar...I've measured > it. Most type twos find this to be true, hence Bernstein and the Eads both > recommend abandoning bread. > > Anyway, take it as a challenge to find interesting and tasty things to eat, > you'll discover there is quite an assortment out there. > > Good luck, > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Rose, let me give you an example of a day or two's foods I eat, not boreing at all, and nicely low in carbohydrates. Yesterday: breakfast was five strips of bacon and scrambled eggs with diced onion, Adobo seasoning and a jalapeno pepper in them. Lunch was sugar free peanut butter spread on a low carb wrap, a hard boiled egg, some onion and garbonzo salad, a few carbs, but not many, some plain yoghurt with cherry preserves made with Splenda in it and, I think, a piece of chedder cheese. Supper was a Cajun marinated chicken breast, a vegetable you swore you would never eat, a green salad and a piece of almost zero carb cheesecake. Today: Breakfast was leftover cajun chicken, diced and put into a low carb pita bread with red onion and picapeppa sauce...I like odd breakfasts. Lunch was four ounces of cottage cheese, a sun dried tomato and three fresh mozarella cheese balls in Italian marinade, more of the garbonzo salad, (I like it), and several pieces of different luncheon meats, smoked turkey, pastrami and delicious peppered ham, plus a bit of Jack cheese. Dinner will probably be a low carb soup we make using black soy beans, Mexican spices, tomatoes and green chilles, plus a salad, plus, probably, a roasted pork tenderloin. I use a huge variety of seasonings and herbs to continualy vary the flavors of things. I am like you, variety is essential. I also make delicious crispy crackers that are zero in carbohydrates and very tasty, recipe on request. You can do this, it will take some adjustments, but you do not need to sacrifice a love of good food. Believe me, if I had to do that, I'm not sure it would be worth it. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Rose, I forgot to add, you do not necessarily need to eat too often. My wife, also a type two, eats six or seven little meals a day, but I eat two or three and have no trouble. If you find you get dips in your glucose level, just a few peanuts or a piece of beef herky can tide you over until mealtime very nicely. Put that salsa on a scrambled egg, or maybe mix it into diced ham and onion salad, or get some low carb chips for dipping, they are out there. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Rose, yet one more thing, you don't have to give up salad dressing at all, just use the ones without sugar. You are gonna have to have a sighted person label read for you, but you can get dressings that are not bad in carbs and that do not have sugar, the Newman dressings are very good. You can make some delicious dressings, too, that fit the diet well and are really good. Take some red wine vinegar, cut up three jalapeno peppers and let them soak in the vinegar for a month. Make a dressing out of the vinegar, some olive oil and a big bunch of herbs, your choice, no carbs to speak of and it will be delicious. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose Your right aheathly diet is best whatever type of Diabetic you are. The thing to try to avoid are very high sugar thing such as sugar, jams, there low sugar jams now. Avoid cakes candies,very high fat foods, again low fat produts are available and above all moderation in all things. Good luck Margarita > Re: Introduction > > > > > > Hi Rose, I won't welcome you to the world of type two diabetes, > though you > > are here. Nobody wants to be here, but there are ways for you > to make it > > very much easier on yourself. > > > > I fear fast food will pretty much be a thing of the past, though you can > > eat a burger and leave off the bun, it's a pain, but avoiding the > > carbohydrates in the bun can mean saving a blood glucose spike. The > > sugared Coke and fries are out altogether, sadly. > > > > I would have a discussion with my doctor about your med, if I were you. > > Glucotrol is one of the sulfonuria type of drugs. It > supercharges the beta > > cells in the pancreas, forcing them to produce what they are pretty > > reluctant to do in us type twos. It is also highly suspected of causing > > minor heart problems. > > > > Most type twos find that if they continue to use Glucotrol, after a few > > years, they become insulin dependent because the pancreas has been burnt > > out by the drug. > > > > In my opinion, a better choice is Glucophage, or metformin, the generic > > name. Glucophage works with the liver to help the body get rid > of glucose > > in the blood and use what insulin there is more efficiently without > > stimulating the pancreas to produce beyond its ability. > > > > My blood glucose used to run in the high 300s, very bad, but with a very > > low carbohydrate diet, 2000 mg of glucophage a day and some > very specific > > supplements, it runs around 105 now, quite acceptible. > > > > You may wish to consider two supplements that are very strongly > recommended > > by people in the know about blood sugar levels, alpha lipoic acid and > > chromium piccolonate. > > > > I take 600 mg of timed release alpha lipoic acid a day and 500 mcg of > > chromium piccolonate, both from iherb.com, the best prices are there. > > > > However, the biggest thing that will keep you from getting the > side effects > > of diabetes will be your diet. > > > > Unfortunately, the American Diabetes Association advocates a diet that > > contains far too many carbohydrates for good blood sugar control. > > > > I suggest two books for you to get, scan in and listen to, > Protein Power by > > and Eads, and The Diabetes Solution, by Dr. K. > > Bernstein. > > > > The second book is the very best in the entire field of diabetes. > > Bernstein is a brittle type one and is under very good control. He has > > many things to say to us type twos about meds, monitoring and > > diet/exercise. I cannot recommend the book highly enough. > > > > Many doctors will not agree with the need for a very low > carbohydrate diet, > > this is because they are far too hung up on low fat diets, > which generally > > do not work and are actively harmful for many diabetics. > > > > Depending on exercise, you probably want your carbohydrate intake to be > > less than 30 grams a day. If you get a goodly amount of exercise, you > > might get away with three times that much. This means restricting many > > carbs like potatoes, grains/breads, pastas, beans and legumes > and starchy > > vegetables like carrots and lima beans. (But, who likes lima > beans, right?) > > > > However, there are loads of foods you can still eat. You can > even buy very > > high quality chocolate made with Splenda over the web that has almost no > > carbohydrate in it at all. So, you don't have to give up > things you like > > in some respects, but some probably will have to go. > > > > I miss bread more than anything else, sugar was not really a > problem, but > > bread, goddess do I love bread, and it is a no-no. A slice of > bread will > > raise my blood glucose as much as two tablespoons of > sugar...I've measured > > it. Most type twos find this to be true, hence Bernstein and > the Eads both > > recommend abandoning bread. > > > > Anyway, take it as a challenge to find interesting and tasty > things to eat, > > you'll discover there is quite an assortment out there. > > > > Good luck, > > > > Dan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose Iknow there is quite afew differences from between the types of Diabetic, but Why not try Weight Watchers Salad Dressing its very low in fat, carbohydrate and calories. Ihave used most of there products for years and I have been a Type 1 for nearly 40 years. Best wishes Margarita > RE: Introduction > > > Rose, yet one more thing, you don't have to give up salad dressing at all, > just use the ones without sugar. > > You are gonna have to have a sighted person label read for you, > but you can > get dressings that are not bad in carbs and that do not have sugar, the > Newman dressings are very good. You can make some delicious dressings, > too, that fit the diet well and are really good. > > Take some red wine vinegar, cut up three jalapeno peppers and let > them soak > in the vinegar for a month. Make a dressing out of the vinegar, > some olive > oil and a big bunch of herbs, your choice, no carbs to speak of > and it will > be delicious. > > Dan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2001 Report Share Posted October 24, 2001 Hi Rose, I can only imagine right now how overwhelmed you must feel since I haven't been there. I'm sure it's tough, but you seem to be handling it well. At least, you're taking all of the right stepss instead of denying the reality of your situation. As zeducated as you seem to be and as willing to learn as you obviously are, you will be fine. I'm sure it won't be easy changing your lifestyle, but I know you CAN and WILL do it. That's what this group is for both information and support. Take care, and hang in there. Best wishes, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Thanks, I don't like real breakfast much either. I had a chicken burro for lunch, only ate about half of it. I had the strawberries off my husband's fried ice cream and maybe one teaspoon of the ice cream. That was at about 11:30, and at 6:00 p.m myblood sugar was thelowest reading I have goteenin the past few days. Of course, we did someshopping and I walked a great deal after lunch. However, all the walking in about 92 degrees heat made me really miss my coke. Rose Combs rosecombs@... RE: Introduction Rose, let me give you an example of a day or two's foods I eat, not boreing at all, and nicely low in carbohydrates. Yesterday: breakfast was five strips of bacon and scrambled eggs with diced onion, Adobo seasoning and a jalapeno pepper in them. Lunch was sugar free peanut butter spread on a low carb wrap, a hard boiled egg, some onion and garbonzo salad, a few carbs, but not many, some plain yoghurt with cherry preserves made with Splenda in it and, I think, a piece of chedder cheese. Supper was a Cajun marinated chicken breast, a vegetable you swore you would never eat, a green salad and a piece of almost zero carb cheesecake. Today: Breakfast was leftover cajun chicken, diced and put into a low carb pita bread with red onion and picapeppa sauce...I like odd breakfasts. Lunch was four ounces of cottage cheese, a sun dried tomato and three fresh mozarella cheese balls in Italian marinade, more of the garbonzo salad, (I like it), and several pieces of different luncheon meats, smoked turkey, pastrami and delicious peppered ham, plus a bit of Jack cheese. Dinner will probably be a low carb soup we make using black soy beans, Mexican spices, tomatoes and green chilles, plus a salad, plus, probably, a roasted pork tenderloin. I use a huge variety of seasonings and herbs to continualy vary the flavors of things. I am like you, variety is essential. I also make delicious crispy crackers that are zero in carbohydrates and very tasty, recipe on request. You can do this, it will take some adjustments, but you do not need to sacrifice a love of good food. Believe me, if I had to do that, I'm not sure it would be worth it. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 I am having trouble with the multiple meals, that is for sure, and I read recently that nuts are good for you. It is a good thing because I have some huge jars of them from Costco, very lightly salted, not nearlyso much as Plantars, and very good, I eat them fairly sparingly but try to get a few in every day. Rose Combs rosecombs@... RE: Introduction Rose, I forgot to add, you do not necessarily need to eat too often. My wife, also a type two, eats six or seven little meals a day, but I eat two or three and have no trouble. If you find you get dips in your glucose level, just a few peanuts or a piece of beef herky can tide you over until mealtime very nicely. Put that salsa on a scrambled egg, or maybe mix it into diced ham and onion salad, or get some low carb chips for dipping, they are out there. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Sounds good to me. My husband can do the reading, he just cannot see well enough to drive a car--darn it. Rose Combs rosecombs@... RE: Introduction Rose, yet one more thing, you don't have to give up salad dressing at all, just use the ones without sugar. You are gonna have to have a sighted person label read for you, but you can get dressings that are not bad in carbs and that do not have sugar, the Newman dressings are very good. You can make some delicious dressings, too, that fit the diet well and are really good. Take some red wine vinegar, cut up three jalapeno peppers and let them soak in the vinegar for a month. Make a dressing out of the vinegar, some olive oil and a big bunch of herbs, your choice, no carbs to speak of and it will be delicious. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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