Re: bobby glen

[Guest guest]

Don't worry about the rant, we all need one every now and then!  We're among

friends here and we can rant all we want!!!

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yea, we get that too and I'm thinking you have no idea what you're saying.  Are

you really " here " ?  Can you come at 3 a.m. and sit with him while I get some

sleep since he's been awake for over 24 hours and I haven't had a wink in even

longer?  Or, how about coming on over and cleaning up him and the bathroom when

he loses control of his bowel and bladder?  Or, maybe you'd like to come by and

feed him on those days when he's shaking so badly he can't feed himself?  Heck,

you don't even call every day, much less really come by and DO something! 

Sorry, I know I sound a bit jaded, but like some of you, I have seen both the

best and the worst of human nature since this has happened.  There have been a

core of family and  very close friends who are worth more than gold to us.  The

others are just the sludge that rises to the top for disposal when fire gets

hot.

bobby glen

> > > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > > cant

> > > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> > > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > > sale

> > > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> > > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > > er

> > > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > > dr.

> > > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> > > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > > if

> > > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> > > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > > are

> > > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> > > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> was

> > > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > > our

> > > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > > like

> > > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> nice

> > > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> and

> > > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> supposed

> > > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> compation

> > > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > > crying

> > > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

No, absolutely not more than I wanted to know!  I am fascinated by all of this

genetic stuff, especially since that plays a role in Terry's cirrhosis.  Also,

genealogy is my hobby and I love knowing the histories of ethnic groups.  Thank

you for being so open and sharing with me.

bobby glen

> > > > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about

> cheif,still

> > > > > > cant

> > > > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> > > > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> > work,

> > > > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a

> yard

> > > > > > sale

> > > > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> > age,he

> > > > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> > > > > > er

> > > > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the

> er

> > > > > > dr.

> > > > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> > few

> > > > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> > > > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > > > husband

> > > > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> > me

> > > > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck

> ,we

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> > > > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> > more

> > > > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> > was

> > > > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests

> with

> > > > > > our

> > > > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my

> head

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> > nice

> > > > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> > > > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> > and

> > > > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> > supposed

> > > > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> > compation

> > > > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > > > crying

> > > > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> > barby

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I have to share a really funny story with you all about those comebacks you

often give people.  When Momma was going down so fast and was in the hopsital on

a weekend, our regular nephrologist was off and her on-call was on duty.  He was

of Arab descent and was a very nice young man, very knowledgable and had a great

bedside manner.  Momma had gotten much worse very suddenly and he was thinking

that they would have to start dialysis before she was discharged from the

hospital.  He came into her room one morning to examine her and very innocently

asked " How are you this morning, Mrs. Mc? "   Momma had a stock response for

everyone, she said " very well " .  He proceeded to explain how sick she was and

what the treatment plan would be, then left the room.  A short while later the

nurse came into the room and said " What in the world did ya'll say to the

doctor?! "   I told her what had transpired and she almost fell in the floor

laughing!  She

explained that the young doctor had charted that " the patient was in denial of

severity of illness and family member seemed also unaware " !!!!  We were

floored!  As sick as Momma was and even with the Alzheimer's, she thought it was

hilarious!  We laughed and laughed over that poor young doctor who thought we

were in total denial because Momma had said she felt " very well " !!!!!  To Momma,

that meant " I'm doing okay I guess " .  To him, it meant we were in need of some

help and soon so we could understand how sick she was!!!  We laughed for that

whole day about it!

bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I think that is hilarious. I like to watch life in the ER, and one day a patient

came in with sever injures from an auto accident. he doctor said to the camera,

that the patient was having trouble talking, and thought the patient was just

acting a bit hysterical. She added that sometimes with severe spinal injuries, a

person cant talk, but in this case she added that she hoped it was just

overacting by the patient. I thought to my self, man oh, man that lady is going

to end up having a broken neck, just watch. Sure enough, her CT came back with

the worst possible news. Broken neck. I wanted to reach through the TV and add a

broken neck to that arrogant doc.

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:08:44 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

I have to share a really funny story with you all about those comebacks you

often give people. When Momma was going down so fast and was in the hopsital on

a weekend, our regular nephrologist was off and her on-call was on duty. He was

of Arab descent and was a very nice young man, very knowledgable and had a great

bedside manner. Momma had gotten much worse very suddenly and he was thinking

that they would have to start dialysis before she was discharged from the

hospital. He came into her room one morning to examine her and very innocently

asked " How are you this morning, Mrs. Mc? " Momma had a stock response for

everyone, she said " very well " . He proceeded to explain how sick she was and

what the treatment plan would be, then left the room. A short while later the

nurse came into the room and said " What in the world did ya'll say to the

doctor?! " I told her what had transpired and she almost fell in the floor

laughing! She

explained that the young doctor had charted that " the patient was in denial of

severity of illness and family member seemed also unaware " !!!! We were floored!

As sick as Momma was and even with the Alzheimer's, she thought it was

hilarious! We laughed and laughed over that poor young doctor who thought we

were in total denial because Momma had said she felt " very well " !!!!! To Momma,

that meant " I'm doing okay I guess " . To him, it meant we were in need of some

help and soon so we could understand how sick she was!!! We laughed for that

whole day about it!

bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

after my son died i was making rounds at work a nurse asked " how are you doing "

i bursted into tears...she let me cry it out then said i will never ask that

question again.

________________________________

To: Livercirrhosissupport <livercirrhosissupport >

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:36:14 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Jan, you aren't going to offend anyone here because If I take a poll asking how

many people here have been miffed by a family member or friend who insisted that

" you look so good " , most are going to be right there with you and I. I have

began answering such people with a simple but not snotty " oh, thank you. I am so

suprised my self how good I look for haveing a terminal ilness " or. " Thanks, yeah

I make liver disease look GOOD " . Most of the time if someone asks how I am, I

will tell them " medium " . It was a saying of Ardis's which used to drive me up

the wall. I allways wanted to tell her " how are you " is rhetorical. BUt if she

didn't feel good, she would say so. If I ask Sharon how she is feeling today,

and she says " not quite medium " then I know that she is having a not so good

day. Neither one of us has had a really good day for a long long time. I can

relate, hun. Love, Bobby

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Re: bobby glen

Sorry if anyone took this personally here, I didn't mean it that way. This

is one place it is nice to find out how people are doing. Jan H

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Jan Holman <janholmangmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> It is nice to have people understand. But one phrase I would like taken

> out of the English language is " how are you doing? " Usually, they just mean

> it as a greeting, but even then, I am more inclined to feel the pain I have

> been trying to ignore, remember that I am so tired it is hard to get out of

> the car and go where I have to go. People are just starting to come back

> here for the Winter, and all my friends keep coming up and saying " how are

> you doing? " or " You sure look good for all you have been through since I saw

> you last. " Except for putting me in their prayers, I would just prefer that

> they give me a hug and say, " So nice to see you again. " Excuse the

> vent. Jan H

>

>

> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jill <jillkstewart@ yahoo.com>wrote:

>

>> You know, Jan and Diane...I too feel like we just " circle the wagons " .

>> Because we understand what is going on and deal with the medical issues

>> everyday.... we know what is best for us and our husbands. We HAVE found who

>> are really our friends and who are not. I think soime people just can't deal

>> with it all and some people pretend it's not happening... it's like if they

>> say Ed has cirrhosis, it will make it worse and they might catch it or

>> something! People in our town have Ed dying already. I guess what they

>> don't know, they will make up. What do you do?

>>

>>

>> Love,Jill

>>

>> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

>> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

>> our breath away.

>>

>>

>> > >

>> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

>> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think

>> > they

>> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

>> > > >

>> > > > Hugs!!

>> > > >

>> > > > Pamela

>> > > > bobby glen

>> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

>> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>> > > > cant

>> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

>> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

>> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>> > > > sale

>> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

>> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

>> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

>> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

>> > > > er

>> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>> > > > dr.

>> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

>> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

>> > > > if

>> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

>> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

>> > > > husband

>> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

>> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>> > > > are

>> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

>> > > > due

>> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

>> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

>> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

>> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

>> was

>> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>> > > > our

>> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>> > > > like

>> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

>> nice

>> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

>> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

>> and

>> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

>> supposed

>> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

>> compation

>> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

>> > > > crying

>> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

[Guest guest]

you know mac i have yet to put my tree up since 2001...i do other things but the

tree ....i cant figure why .... even thinking about putting the tree up causes

me to cry...funny

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

That is funny.  We all develop our own little sense of humor with these

situations.

We have, quite by accident, found out how to have people stop asking you " how

are you " , etc.  Charlie went on Hospice a couple of weeks ago.  Once people find

out-they just don't say much to you anymore.  Doesn't really help with having a

support system but it does seem to stop the questions-sadly.

Hope everyone is having a good Monday.

Nona

> >> > >

> >> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> >> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I

> think

> >> > they

> >> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Hugs!!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Pamela

> >> > > > bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

oh sandy i do understand the tree thing, since 04 i have not

participated in the raising of the tree except to take pictures,

bobby glenn puts it up and the lights and we let all the kids put the

ornaments on, then he fixes it after they leave lol, i refused to put

one up in 04 dont know why i think its because its always been such a

happy time for me trimming the tree and decorating and i felt like

how can i be happy right now?it seemed to make me feel quilty for

trying to be happy, so we had no tree till christmas eve when the

babies asked gwammy where is yourw cwismas twee?? so poppy put it up

with them, now its normal to just sit back and watch them do

it.however i am gonna try to deck the halls with him this year, we

will see,i am so very sorry for all you have been through,i cant even

imagine ,know i love you and thank god for his saving grace!barby---

In livercirrhosissupport , sandra

wrote:

>

> you know mac i have yet to put my tree up since 2001...i do other

things but the tree ....i cant figure why .... even thinking about

putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: livercirrhosissupport

> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

> Subject: Re: bobby glen

>

>

> Pamela,

> I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife

died right before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So

the holidays are very hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so

much, even with family, I ended up with shingles!

>

> We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the

holidays. In our home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance.

For us, it lets us not forget her during the time with family,

because I know, if she could, she would be there with us. I also

think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way that gives

joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

>

> MaC

>

> diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

> I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma

passed on in April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the

holidays that year was painful. Please know that I am praying for you

and, were I closer, I would be there to hold your hand and cry with

you. We have a memorial ornament that we hang on the tree for Momma.

Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes to that house and

play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a story

about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in

the memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us

all during that time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm

thinking of you Pamela and I'm praying for strenght for you and your

family.

>

> Love and hugs........ .

> Diane

>

> bobby glen

> > > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about

cheif,still

> > > > > cant

> > > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so

sad. bobby

> > > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home

from work,

> > > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at

a yard

> > > > > sale

> > > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side

swiped the

> > > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in

an

> > > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our

daughters age,he

> > > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried

him to the

> > > > > er

> > > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and

chest ,the er

> > > > > dr.

> > > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore

for a few

> > > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the

weekend but

> > > > > if

> > > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone

else, my

> > > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing

my

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on

with let me

> > > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a

wreck ,we

> > > > > are

> > > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even

take them

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you

believe he

> > > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

him,his

> > > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to

run more

> > > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see

that it was

> > > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the

tests with

> > > > > our

> > > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in

my head

> > > > > like

> > > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr.

acted so nice

> > > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car

wreck drug

> > > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks

who try and

> > > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent

we supposed

> > > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

compation

> > > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed

up for

> > > > > crying

> > > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you

all, barby

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

lol lol bobby i know some times i feel like chucking the remote into

the tv lol lol

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > From: pinkmeetsblue <itsabnbthing@ bellsouth. net>

> > >> > > > > Subject: bobby glen

> > >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about

cheif,still

> >

> > >> > > > cant

> > >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so

sad.

> > bobby

> > >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way

home from

> > work,

> > >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking

at a yard

> >

> > >> > > > sale

> > >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side

swiped the

> > >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken

in an

> > >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our

daughters

> > age,he

> > >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried

him to

> > the

> > >> > > > er

> > >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and

chest ,the er

> >

> > >> > > > dr.

> > >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be

sore for a

> > few

> > >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the

weekend

> > but

> > >> > > > if

> > >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see

someone else,

> > my

> > >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you

acusing my

> > >> > > > husband

> > >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on

with let

> > me

> > >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a

wreck ,we

> >

> > >> > > > are

> > >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant

even take

> > them

> > >> > > > due

> > >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you

believe he

> > >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front

of

> > him,his

> > >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need

to run

> > more

> > >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt

see that it

> > >> was

> > >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the

tests with

> >

> > >> > > > our

> > >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me

in my head

> >

> > >> > > > like

> > >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr.

acted so

> > >> nice

> > >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car

wreck

> > drug

> > >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on

folks who try

> > >> and

> > >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car

wreck...arent we

> > >> supposed

> > >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated

with

> > >> compation

> > >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so

messed up for

> > >> > > > crying

> > >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love

you all,

> > barby

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Nona,

I'm sorry to hear that Charlie has had to go on hospice.  I know that must have

been a difficult decision.  I hope the extra help is giving you a break.  You

guys are in my prayers.

Hugs...........

Diane

bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane,

It was not an easy decision but the right one.  It is nice to have the support

and all that goes with that.  Hospice put him on pain meds, anxiety meds which

has helped.  He is actually sleeping at night now which is a good change.  I see

changes in him all the time.  It's hard to watch as you know.

Nona

> >> > >

> >> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> >> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I

> think

> >> > they

> >> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Hugs!!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Pamela

> >> > > > bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I'm happy he's at least getting some rest now.  That in itself makes the

decision worth it.  Hopefully you are getting more rest as well.  I'm praying

for you Nona.

bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane.  You know it's such a roller coast of a ride in all of our lives

right now.  Charlie and I talk about it all-j but just one day-I would like to

have a day when all these thoughts don't creep into my brain. 

Well, no one ever promised it would be easy, huh?

Nona

> >> > >

> >> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> >> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I

> think

> >> > they

> >> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Hugs!!

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Pamela

> >> > > > bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the kudos Diane! You and Terry are in my prayers as well.

Always,

MaC

diane chandler wrote: MaC, I

think the angel is a lovely idea. Kaitlyn is so blessed to have you for a

Daddy. From all I've read, you have done an excellent joy of keeping Insoon

real to her and helping her remember her Mommy in a joyous and positive way.

Please know you will be in my prayers during this holiday season.

Hugs........

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work, and

something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny and

sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we simply

live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish, we

just become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra wrote: you know

mac i have yet to put my tree up since 2001...i do other things but the tree

.....i cant figure why .... even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to

cry...funny

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

i have learned that our vessels can only fill so much...when i let things pile

up on me i have panic attacts. its is horrible...i use to be able to do lots but

such as life my nerves took a beating. i realize my limits now

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 2:51:05 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Diane, Thanks for the kind words. It seems I have to take things

about every other day. Sometimes the world isn't operating on that

schedule,like this week. Today, church was at 9:30, Adult Bible study

at 10:30, Council meeting is coming up at 1 and I have been doing a

newsletter for the members which means I should be there. Need to

take my grandson to work at 1 too, so that will work pretty good.

Tomorrow I don't get to rest though. I usually have 10 AM women's

Bible Study, but won't make that tomorrow because my second grandson

has a court hearing 35 miles away at 11AM. Tues we have a Bible study

in our church at 2 and I attend one at the home of friends on Tues at

5:30. Wednesday I get to rest. Wish I could spread out those Bible

studies, but it doesn't work for the other people. Just don't come

look at this house. Sometimes you have trouble walking through it.

And the first thing they told me in therapy after my bypass was to

make sure my living situation was safe to walk around in. Good thing

I can catch myself.

When I do get nervous I have a prescription for xanax which really

helps. Usually just use it at night to get some rest. Has Terry

ever talked to the doctor about something to relax him. Thanks again

Jan H

> Jan, I admire you so much and I admire your faith. It is what gets me

> through these difficult days. I just simply couldn't face all of this

> without the hope my faith offers me. I am so thankful you found your son!

> I am so sad that you won't get to be with your family, but I certainly

> understand the issues with strength and the ability to be with people for a

> whole week. Terry is barely able to be with a group for a few minutes now.

> It just makes him so nervous, he suffers afterwards and it's not worth it to

> him. Our family has been very supportive and understanding. I wish I could

> say the same for some of our so-called " friends " who have spread some

> vicious rumors because I asked them not to come over. But, I don't care

> what they think or say. My priority is Terry and if they don't understand,

> then I just pray they never have to go through it so they will. I'm praying

> for you Jan and for your family.

>

> Hugs........ ......

> Diane

>

>

>

> bobby glen

>> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

>> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>> > > >

>> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>> > > cant

>> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

>> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

>> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>> > > sale

>> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

>> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

>> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

>> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

>> > > er

>> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>> > > dr.

>> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

>> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

>> > > if

>> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

>> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

>> > > husband

>> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

>> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>> > > are

>> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

>> > > due

>> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

>> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

>> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

>> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

>> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>> > > our

>> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>> > > like

>> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

>> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

>> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

>> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

>> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

>> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

>> > > crying

>> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>> > > >

>> > > >

[Guest guest]

AMen

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work, and

something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny and

sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we simply

live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish, we just

become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: you know mac i have yet to put my

tree up since 2001...i do other things but the tree .....i cant figure why ....

even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

i want to put a tree up i do have little trees but not " the tree " . i told my

husband we still have children ...then i cry and am crying now at the thought..i

need a psychiatric doc for this

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:22:26 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

AMen

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work, and

something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny and

sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we simply

live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish, we just

become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: you know mac i have yet to put my

tree up since 2001...i do other things but the tree .....i cant figure why ....

even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs......... .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

you know grief has become a part of me...these moments of pain are real and that

keeps my son real.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work, and

something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny and

sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we simply

live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish, we just

become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: you know mac i have yet to put my

tree up since 2001...i do other things but the tree ....i cant figure why ....

even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) . com

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds.. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

,

You can't beat yourself up. Grieving is different for everyone and there is no

timetable. Just give yourself room and time to heal. Don't ever feel hurried to

do this. But when you feel you need to talk to your feelings and no one is

around to listen, come here. I will listen and just having someone to listen

helps get past some of the feelings we get hung up on.

MaC

sandra wrote: you know

grief has become a part of me...these moments of pain are real and that keeps my

son real.

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work,

and something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny

and sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we

simply live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish,

we just become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: you know mac i have yet to put my

tree up since 2001...i do other things but the tree ....i cant figure why ....

even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) . com

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds.. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I saw in the movie " Memoirs of a Geisha " a line that said " At the temple, there

is a poem called " Loss " , carved into the stone. It

has three words...but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read

" Loss " ... Only feel it. "

Before Ardis died, I would have thought I knew what it was to lose, but I would

have been lying to myself. She wasn't a son, as in your son, whom you carried in

your womb, but she did become mine. Like a sister, a true member of my

household, my family. Closer to us than even our blood relatives. We had a huge

responsibility, and I am the one who put it on us. But, still, it was what it

was. She was ours. Daily life was all about her " condition " . How was her

medication regimen going, how was her mental status today, her salt intake,

protein, and most of all, that damn wheat. Ardis had ceiliacs disease, and if an

alcoholic was admitted to a hospital, only to have the staff sneak him a whiskey

every few hours, that's what happened to us every single time she was an

inpatient. I finally posted a sign on her door, and above her bed in that black

sharpie, and it looked as if a medical person had done it, it said " NO WHEAT, NO

RYE, NO BARELY, NO OATS, NO

GLUTEN OF ANY KIND, IF YOU ARE NOT SURE, ASK SOMEONE " . No one ever asked where

the sign had come from. You are probably thinking, what does this have to do

with my son?

It doesnt, except for that every day, as soon as I am aware that I have awaken

again, to face another day, and thank God for this fact, the foggy realization

creeps in. No call to Ardis this morning. No urgency to get out of the house,

and make that first call, or rush over to feed her a gluten free waffle before I

work an 8 hour shift. She isnt there.

No job. Roll over, go back to sleep, no need to get up. Not yet, anyway. Not

only am I retired from my job at the parks, but my job of taking care of Ardis

is someone else's now.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 8:41:00 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

you know grief has become a part of me...these moments of pain are real and that

keeps my son real.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work, and

something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny and

sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we simply

live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish, we just

become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: you know mac i have yet to put my

tree up since 2001...i do other things but the tree ....i cant figure why ....

even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

____________ _________ _________ __

From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) . com

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds.. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I sure understand what you're saying Nona.  I long sometimes for just 1 " normal "

day.  I said that to a friend recently and she said " Well, we all have bad

days " .  I thought, oh sweetie, you just have no idea. <sigh>

bobby glen

> >> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> >> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>

> >> > > > cant

> >> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad.

> bobby

> >> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> >> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>

> >> > > > sale

> >> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> >> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> >> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> >> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to

> the

> >> > > > er

> >> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>

> >> > > > dr.

> >> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> >> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend

> but

> >> > > > if

> >> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else,

> my

> >> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> >> > > > husband

> >> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> >> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>

> >> > > > are

> >> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take

> them

> >> > > > due

> >> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> >> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of

> him,his

> >> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> >> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> >> was

> >> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>

> >> > > > our

> >> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>

> >> > > > like

> >> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> >> nice

> >> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck

> drug

> >> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> >> and

> >> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> >> supposed

> >> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> >> compation

> >> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> >> > > > crying

> >> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks MaC.  It's such a blessing to be able to have this group of people to

pray for each other and support each other in these difficult times.

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Bobby!!! U is deep man!!!

Anytime u wanna come to Moscow, I host you here!!

Much better chance of transplant in Russia!!!

Thx for that Poem.

Ivan.

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:14:06 AM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

I saw in the movie " Memoirs of a Geisha " a line that said " At the temple, there

is a poem called " Loss " , carved into the stone. It

has three words...but the poet has scratched them out. You cannot read

" Loss " ... Only feel it. "

Before Ardis died, I would have thought I knew what it was to lose, but I would

have been lying to myself. She wasn't a son, as in your son, whom you carried in

your womb, but she did become mine. Like a sister, a true member of my

household, my family. Closer to us than even our blood relatives. We had a huge

responsibility, and I am the one who put it on us. But, still, it was what it

was. She was ours. Daily life was all about her " condition " . How was her

medication regimen going, how was her mental status today, her salt intake,

protein, and most of all, that damn wheat. Ardis had ceiliacs disease, and if an

alcoholic was admitted to a hospital, only to have the staff sneak him a whiskey

every few hours, that's what happened to us every single time she was an

inpatient. I finally posted a sign on her door, and above her bed in that black

sharpie, and it looked as if a medical person had done it, it said " NO WHEAT, NO

RYE, NO BARELY, NO OATS, NO

GLUTEN OF ANY KIND, IF YOU ARE NOT SURE, ASK SOMEONE " . No one ever asked where

the sign had come from. You are probably thinking, what does this have to do

with my son?

It doesnt, except for that every day, as soon as I am aware that I have awaken

again, to face another day, and thank God for this fact, the foggy realization

creeps in. No call to Ardis this morning. No urgency to get out of the house,

and make that first call, or rush over to feed her a gluten free waffle before I

work an 8 hour shift. She isnt there.

No job. Roll over, go back to sleep, no need to get up. Not yet, anyway. Not

only am I retired from my job at the parks, but my job of taking care of Ardis

is someone else's now.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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From: sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 8:41:00 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

you know grief has become a part of me...these moments of pain are real and that

keeps my son real.

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From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

It's hard. Feelings can come out of nowhere it seems. I can be busy at work, and

something will remind me of Insoon, sometimes, I'll remember something funny and

sometimes I remember the last time I saw her eyes open and I almost cry.

The Christmas tree I do for Kaitlyn's sake and I try to make each one memorable

for her and I know my wife would want her to be happy above all else.

But I understand how you feel. I don't feel we ever " get over " a loss, we simply

live through it as we move forward in life. Our feelings don't diminish, we just

become better at dealing with them.

MaC

sandra <sgonz48yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: you know mac i have yet to put my

tree up since 2001....i do other things but the tree ....i cant figure why ....

even thinking about putting the tree up causes me to cry...funny

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From: MaC <mac0184yahoo (DOT) com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) . com

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:28:09 PM

Subject: Re: bobby glen

Pamela,

I hope you don't mind me chiming in. This hit home for me. My wife died right

before Thanksgiving and our daughters 4 year birthday. So the holidays are very

hard for me. Last year I felt I had to do so much, even with family, I ended up

with shingles!

We have chosen, as you did, with a tree ornament during the holidays. In our

home we place an Angel on the tree in remembrance. For us, it lets us not forget

her during the time with family, because I know, if she could, she would be

there with us. I also think it gives opportunity to talk about her life in a way

that gives joy. I think this will be important for Kaitlyn to remember has she

grows up.

MaC

diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> wrote: Pamela,

I can so relate to what you're going through at this time. Momma passed on in

April, 2006. The thought of even trying to have the holidays that year was

painful. Please know that I am praying for you and, were I closer, I would be

there to hold your hand and cry with you. We have a memorial ornament that we

hang on the tree for Momma. Wherever we're having Christmas, the ornament goes

to that house and play Christmas music that Momma loved and everyone tells a

story about a memory of Mamaw Mac. We try really hard to keep her alive in the

memories of the little children and fresh in the thoughts of us all during that

time cause Momma loved the holidays so much. I'm thinking of you Pamela and I'm

praying for strenght for you and your family.

Love and hugs........ .

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds.. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

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