Re: bobby glen

[Guest guest]

I agree Barby. I would have been snorting mad too!!

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

Subject: bobby glen

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still cant

believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard sale

and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the er

just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er dr.

had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but if

he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my husband

of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we are

here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them due

to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with our

family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head like

a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for crying

out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

[Guest guest]

They probably would have locked me up!

From: pinkmeetsblue <itsabnbthing@ bellsouth. net>

Subject: bobby glen

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still cant

believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard sale

and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the er

just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er dr.

had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but if

he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my husband

of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we are

here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them due

to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with our

family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head like

a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for crying

out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

[Guest guest]

lol lyncia funny thing is in the waiting room,their sign said any

aggresion towards dr. or staff will result in police intervention, i

laughed and thought why would someone do that, then i met their

dr.!!!!so i was trying to keep myself as calm as possable ,and bobby

glen doesnt like me to cause a scene lol,so i only carried it as far

as i felt wouldnt get me locked up. such a messed up world.

>

> From: pinkmeetsblue <itsabnbthing@ bellsouth. net>

> Subject: bobby glen

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>

> ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

cant

> believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

sale

> and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

er

> just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

dr.

> had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

if

> he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

husband

> of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

are

> here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

due

> to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

our

> family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

like

> a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

crying

> out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Barby, I am so sorry sweetie.  I know you were so upset already, what with

your daughter's accident and all.  Then, to have to hear that Little Eagle had

passed on top of Bobby Glen's accident and the awful treatment you received at

the ER.  I know your just beside yourself.  If Bobby Glen is having difficulty

breathing, I would most definitely follow up with your PCP or GI.  That could be

related to the liver disease.  I know how hard Chief's death hit you.  I still

just can't wrap my head around it.  I think its because of what you said, if

Cheif died, that means this whole nightmare is real and Terry is gonna die too. 

It's just surreal to me.  My heart is so heavy and sad for us and for Chief's

family, but I know I should be happy for him because his suffering is over now. 

He can breathe freely and walk about with ease and enjoy himself once again.  I

always have troublel with this.  I don't do grief well, I wonder if anyone

does. 

Anyway, I'm praying for you honey and for Bobby Glen.

Love and hugs..........

Diane

bobby glen

ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still cant

believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard sale

and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the er

just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er dr.

had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but if

he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my husband

of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we are

here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them due

to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with our

family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head like

a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for crying

out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

[Guest guest]

thank you babe,its been one heck of a month, thank goodness oct. is

over, i know cheif is up in heaven smiling down on us,feeding the

critters ,has probably already planted a garden for them ,what a

shock though i wasnt perpared for it for sure,who would have

thought ,and it does make this whole mess feel so much more real, i

am scared now really really scared,as i watch bobby glen napping

beside me, its so real now more so than ever.we are gonna follow up

with dr. curtis, that experience at the er was a nitemare,one i will

never forget for sure, and will never use that hosp. again.hows terry

doin??i see the new babies ,i was expecting little fluffy puppies lol

lol, they are huge, and beatiful ,have fun with them ,before long

they will be walking you lol lol,a good day to you my friend ,much

love barby

>

> Oh Barby, I am so sorry sweetie.  I know you were so upset already,

what with your daughter's accident and all.  Then, to have to hear

that Little Eagle had passed on top of Bobby Glen's accident and the

awful treatment you received at the ER.  I know your just beside

yourself.  If Bobby Glen is having difficulty breathing, I would most

definitely follow up with your PCP or GI.  That could be related to

the liver disease.  I know how hard Chief's death hit you.  I still

just can't wrap my head around it.  I think its because of what you

said, if Cheif died, that means this whole nightmare is real and

Terry is gonna die too.  It's just surreal to me.  My heart is so

heavy and sad for us and for Chief's family, but I know I should be

happy for him because his suffering is over now.  He can breathe

freely and walk about with ease and enjoy himself once again.  I

always have troublel with this.  I don't do grief well, I wonder if

anyone does. 

> Anyway, I'm praying for you honey and for Bobby Glen.

>

> Love and hugs..........

> Diane

>

>

>

> bobby glen

>

>

> ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

cant

> believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

sale

> and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

er

> just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

dr.

> had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

if

> he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

husband

> of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

are

> here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

due

> to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

our

> family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

like

> a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

crying

> out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think they need

to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

Hugs!!

Pamela

bobby glen

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>

> ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

cant

> believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

sale

> and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

er

> just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

dr.

> had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

if

> he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

husband

> of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

are

> here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

due

> to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

our

> family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

like

> a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

crying

> out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would report the doctor's conduct to the hospital administration.

As to Chief's death, yes it really does make it come home. I have accepted

the fact that I don't have too many years to live, generally say about 3, (

three years from now if I am still here will still be saying I have about

three years to live) but to find out that someone who had posted here not

too many days ago has died, really makes it real. Jan H

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Pamela on wrote:

> Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think they

> need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

>

> Hugs!!

>

> Pamela

> bobby glen

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >

> > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> cant

> > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> sale

> > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> er

> > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> dr.

> > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> if

> > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> husband

> > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> are

> > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> due

> > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> our

> > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> like

> > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> crying

> > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I did that...filed a complaint with the hospital about an ER doctor's conduct. I

got my co-pay back !

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

> Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think they

> need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

>

> Hugs!!

>

> Pamela

> bobby glen

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >

> > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> cant

> > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> sale

> > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> er

> > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> dr.

> > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> if

> > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> husband

> > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> are

> > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> due

> > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> our

> > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> like

> > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> crying

> > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jan, I don't know much about your situation. Why are you saying about 3 years? I

know I'm really not well informed  about your illness.But I would like to know.

Are you not a candidate for a transplant?

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

> Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think they

> need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

>

> Hugs!!

>

> Pamela

> bobby glen

> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> >

> > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> cant

> > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> sale

> > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> er

> > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> dr.

> > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> if

> > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> husband

> > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> are

> > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> due

> > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> our

> > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> like

> > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> crying

> > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jill, no I am not a candidate for transplant for a couple of reasons. I am

65 now. I also have a number of other medical conditions which mean they

won't give me a transplant, 6 stents in my heart, a triple bypass, carotid

artery surgery, a stent in the right iliac crossing my aorta,

hypothyroidism, and a bunch of there minor medical problems. I might be

able to qualify in some other state, but in Arizona there is too much of a

shortage of organs to give one to me. Jan H

> Jan, I don't know much about your situation. Why are you saying about 3

> years? I know I'm really not well informed about your illness.But I would

> like to know. Are you not a candidate for a transplant?

>

>

> Love,Jill

>

> We don't remember days, we remember moments.

> Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take

> our breath away.

>

>

>

> > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think they

> > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> >

> > Hugs!!

> >

> > Pamela

> > bobby glen

> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > >

> > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > cant

> > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > sale

> > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > er

> > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > dr.

> > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > if

> > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > husband

> > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > are

> > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > due

> > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > our

> > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > like

> > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > crying

> > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My mother faced this same dilemma in TN when she was diagnosed with end stage

renal failure.  She was 64 with Alzheimer's and heart disease.  We were told

that, due to her age and dementia, she could not qualify.  It was a hard thing

to accept at first, but as Momma got sicker, the dementia became worse and we

realized that the Alzheimer's would be almost impossible to overcome under such

stressful circumstances as a transplant.  I'm sorry Jan.  I know the

disappointment and grief of facing a future with no alternatives.  I'm sorry for

you and for your family.

Hugs.................

Diane

bobby glen

> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > >

> > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > cant

> > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > sale

> > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > er

> > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > dr.

> > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > if

> > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > husband

> > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > are

> > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > due

> > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > our

> > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > like

> > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > crying

> > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It was a shock when I was first told that I wouldn't qualify for a

transplant. It was about a year after my diagnosis, and that doctor had

told me I had 2 to 3 years to live if I didn't have a transplant. Then I

went to a transplant team to be evaluated at Banner Good Samaritan in

Phoenix. Those doctors were really nasty, asked me why I thought I needed a

transplant, and if I did, why I thought I would get one. I left there in

tears. So, I went to the Mayo Clinic. They were very nice, but also said

that I wouldn't qualify for a transplant in Arizona because of my heart

problems, even though I have never had a heart attack, their was no damage

to my heart, just had the arteries cleaned out. Made me too big a risk for

donation with the limited number of organs here. I have come to terms with

it. Keep having discussion with doctors who want to give me meds which

would bother my liver more than it is, but I explain to them I would rather

protect my liver at the expense of my heart because knowing I will die of

one or the other, I would rather die of a heart attack than cirrhosis. That

shuts them up. My faith is strong, so have no fear of dying. Listening to

what other families here go through with the loved ones with cirrhosis does

make me sad about my family. They have gone through enough with their

parents already with all my medical problems and their dad has had a number

of heart attacks. All our kids and their dad will be spending the next week

together. I would love to go, but need to be here to provide transportation

for my oldest grandson to work and not sure I have the energy to make the

flight and be around people all that time. My son has promised to take a

picture and leave a space for me which my oldest daughter can make look like

we were all there together. It is a dream of mine to have all my children

together down here. I have a fourth child who has never seen his brother.

And I have only seen him with one of the girls. He was adopted as a baby

because I wasn't married when he was born. A no no in MN when he was born

in 67. I found him in 2000. Jan H

>

> My mother faced this same dilemma in TN when she was diagnosed with end

> stage renal failure. She was 64 with Alzheimer's and heart disease. We

> were told that, due to her age and dementia, she could not qualify. It was

> a hard thing to accept at first, but as Momma got sicker, the dementia

> became worse and we realized that the Alzheimer's would be almost impossible

> to overcome under such stressful circumstances as a transplant. I'm sorry

> Jan. I know the disappointment and grief of facing a future with no

> alternatives. I'm sorry for you and for your family.

>

> Hugs.................

> Diane

>

> bobby glen

> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > >

> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > cant

> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > sale

> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > er

> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > dr.

> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > if

> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > husband

> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > are

> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > due

> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > our

> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > like

> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > crying

> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Jan, I admire you so much and I admire your faith.  It is what gets me through

these difficult days.  I just simply couldn't face all of this without the hope

my faith offers me.  I am so thankful you found your son!  I am so sad that you

won't get to be with your family, but I certainly understand the issues with

strength and the ability to be with people for a whole week.  Terry is barely

able to be with a group for a few minutes now.  It just makes him so nervous, he

suffers afterwards and it's not worth it to him.  Our family has been very

supportive and understanding.  I wish I could say the same for some of our

so-called " friends " who have spread some vicious rumors because I asked them not

to come over.  But, I don't care what they think or say.  My priority is Terry

and if they don't understand, then I just pray they never have to go through it

so they will.  I'm praying for you Jan and for your family.

Hugs..............

Diane

bobby glen

> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > >

> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > cant

> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > sale

> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > er

> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > dr.

> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > if

> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > husband

> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > are

> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > due

> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > our

> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > like

> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > crying

> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Jan,

I hope you get to have all your kids together some day soon!

Hugs,

Pamela

bobby glen

> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > >

> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > cant

> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > sale

> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > er

> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > dr.

> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > if

> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > husband

> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > are

> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > due

> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > our

> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > like

> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > crying

> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Diane, Thanks for the kind words. It seems I have to take things

about every other day. Sometimes the world isn't operating on that

schedule,like this week. Today, church was at 9:30, Adult Bible study

at 10:30, Council meeting is coming up at 1 and I have been doing a

newsletter for the members which means I should be there. Need to

take my grandson to work at 1 too, so that will work pretty good.

Tomorrow I don't get to rest though. I usually have 10 AM women's

Bible Study, but won't make that tomorrow because my second grandson

has a court hearing 35 miles away at 11AM. Tues we have a Bible study

in our church at 2 and I attend one at the home of friends on Tues at

5:30. Wednesday I get to rest. Wish I could spread out those Bible

studies, but it doesn't work for the other people. Just don't come

look at this house. Sometimes you have trouble walking through it.

And the first thing they told me in therapy after my bypass was to

make sure my living situation was safe to walk around in. Good thing

I can catch myself.

When I do get nervous I have a prescription for xanax which really

helps. Usually just use it at night to get some rest. Has Terry

ever talked to the doctor about something to relax him. Thanks again

Jan H

> Jan, I admire you so much and I admire your faith. It is what gets me

> through these difficult days. I just simply couldn't face all of this

> without the hope my faith offers me. I am so thankful you found your son!

> I am so sad that you won't get to be with your family, but I certainly

> understand the issues with strength and the ability to be with people for a

> whole week. Terry is barely able to be with a group for a few minutes now.

> It just makes him so nervous, he suffers afterwards and it's not worth it to

> him. Our family has been very supportive and understanding. I wish I could

> say the same for some of our so-called " friends " who have spread some

> vicious rumors because I asked them not to come over. But, I don't care

> what they think or say. My priority is Terry and if they don't understand,

> then I just pray they never have to go through it so they will. I'm praying

> for you Jan and for your family.

>

> Hugs..............

> Diane

>

>

>

> bobby glen

>> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

>> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>> > > >

>> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>> > > cant

>> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

>> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

>> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>> > > sale

>> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

>> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

>> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

>> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

>> > > er

>> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>> > > dr.

>> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

>> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

>> > > if

>> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

>> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

>> > > husband

>> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

>> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>> > > are

>> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

>> > > due

>> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

>> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

>> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

>> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

>> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>> > > our

>> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>> > > like

>> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

>> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

>> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

>> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

>> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

>> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

>> > > crying

>> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>> > > >

>> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yea, he takes Paxil every day and has a script for something (can't remember the

name now, Fibro fog!) to help him when he needs more.

bobby glen

>> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

>> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>> > > >

>> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>> > > cant

>> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

>> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

>> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>> > > sale

>> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

>> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

>> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

>> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

>> > > er

>> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>> > > dr.

>> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

>> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

>> > > if

>> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

>> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

>> > > husband

>> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

>> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>> > > are

>> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

>> > > due

>> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

>> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

>> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

>> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

>> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>> > > our

>> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>> > > like

>> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

>> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

>> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

>> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

>> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

>> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

>> > > crying

>> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>> > > >

>> > > >

[Guest guest]

You know, Jan and Diane...I too feel like we just " circle the wagons " . Because

we understand what is going on and deal with the medical issues everyday....we

know what is best for us and our husbands. We HAVE found who are really our

friends and who are not. I think soime people just can't deal with it all  and

some people pretend it's not happening...it's like if they say Ed has cirrhosis,

it will make it worse and they might catch it or something! People in our town

have Ed dying already.  I guess what they don't know, they will make up. What do

you do?

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

> >

> > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think

> they

> > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> > >

> > > Hugs!!

> > >

> > > Pamela

> > > bobby glen

> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > >

> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > cant

> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > sale

> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > er

> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > dr.

> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > if

> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > husband

> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > are

> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > due

> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > our

> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > like

> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > crying

> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I can totally relate to what you guys are saying.  Charlie usually says, I'm

ok.  People always say, he looks so good.  What shade of pale looks good?!!    I

understand about people think you are blowing things out of proportion.  I get

very frustrated sometimes.  I think I will follow your lead and such not much

change.  Kinda cuts off the questions.  Sorry if it seems I am ranting abit.  I

have learned alot about human nature since Charlie has been sick.

Nona

> > >

> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think

> > they

> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> > > >

> > > > Hugs!!

> > > >

> > > > Pamela

> > > > bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

AMEN, Dotty!  AMEN!

bobby glen

> > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > >

> > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > cant

> > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > sale

> > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > er

> > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > dr.

> > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > if

> > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > husband

> > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > are

> > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > due

> > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > our

> > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > like

> > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > crying

> > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Jan,

Don't even begin to think anyone took it wrong.  Believe me, we all understand. 

This is our place to talk, vent and  to know that those here truly do understand

and truly do care how you are doing.

Nona

>> > >

>> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

>> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think

>> > they

>> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

>> > > >

>> > > > Hugs!!

>> > > >

>> > > > Pamela

>> > > > bobby glen

>> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

>> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

>> > > > cant

>> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

>> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

>> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

>> > > > sale

>> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

>> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

>> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

>> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

>> > > > er

>> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

>> > > > dr.

>> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

>> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

>> > > > if

>> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

>> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

>> > > > husband

>> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

>> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

>> > > > are

>> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

>> > > > due

>> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

>> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

>> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

>> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

>> was

>> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

>> > > > our

>> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

>> > > > like

>> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

>> nice

>> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

>> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

>> and

>> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

>> supposed

>> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

>> compation

>> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

>> > > > crying

>> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Diane - my most frequent comment is " I'm here " Jan H

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:48 PM, diane chandler wrote:

> Terry feels the same as you Jan. He gets so tired of people asking when

> he knows they really want to know. So, he usually just ends up saying " ok "

> and leaving it at that. Then, when I try to tell them how he REALLY is,

> they think I'm just stretching the whole thing out of proportion! I've

> started to say, not much change and leave it at that.

>

> bobby glen

> > > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > > cant

> > > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> > > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > > sale

> > > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> > > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > > er

> > > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > > dr.

> > > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> > > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > > if

> > > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> > > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > > are

> > > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> > > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> was

> > > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > > our

> > > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > > like

> > > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> nice

> > > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> and

> > > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> supposed

> > > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> compation

> > > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > > crying

> > > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

The weird thing about me is that I am almost an albino naturally. I am

getting darker and darker all the time and think it is probably from the

cirrhosis. So, if they had seen me before, they would probably have thought

I was sick because I was so pale. Jan H

> I can totally relate to what you guys are saying. Charlie usually says,

> I'm ok. People always say, he looks so good. What shade of pale looks

> good?!! I understand about people think you are blowing things out of

> proportion. I get very frustrated sometimes. I think I will follow your

> lead and such not much change. Kinda cuts off the questions. Sorry if it

> seems I am ranting abit. I have learned alot about human nature since

> Charlie has been sick.

> Nona

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> > > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I

> think

> > > they

> > > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Pamela

> > > > > bobby glen

> > > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > > cant

> > > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> > > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > > sale

> > > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> > > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > > er

> > > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > > dr.

> > > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> > > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > > if

> > > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> > > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > > are

> > > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> > > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> was

> > > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > > our

> > > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > > like

> > > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> nice

> > > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> and

> > > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> supposed

> > > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> compation

> > > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > > crying

> > > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes Jill...I agree. There were times though that I just said straight out when

people asked me " how's your mom? " ..I answered... " well, she's dying and today has

been a really hard day, " or " she is dying, but today was a good day. " Those

who are my friends wept along with me...and still do. My friend asked me at

lunch today how I was doing with getting ready for my dad and brother coming for

a visit. Then she asked how I was doing with Christmas, was that going to be

hard for me this year (first year without my mom) and I said yes and started to

tear up. She touched my hand, told me she loved me and her eyes filled with

tears as well. We are told to weep with those who weep..and these days...I can

even weep with complete strangers....sigh.

Hugs,

Pamela

bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Charlie has struggled with being anemic for the last several years.  I see him

being more pale some days more than others. 

Nona

> > > >

> > > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> > > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I

> think

> > > they

> > > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hugs!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Pamela

> > > > > bobby glen

> > > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > > cant

> > > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from

> work,

> > > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > > sale

> > > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters

> age,he

> > > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > > er

> > > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > > dr.

> > > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a

> few

> > > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > > if

> > > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let

> me

> > > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > > are

> > > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run

> more

> > > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it

> was

> > > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > > our

> > > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > > like

> > > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so

> nice

> > > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try

> and

> > > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we

> supposed

> > > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with

> compation

> > > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > > crying

> > > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all,

> barby

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Not much change is a good response.

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

> > >

> > > > Oh sweetie! I'm glad Bobby Glen wasn't hurt in the accident.

> > > > So sorry for the doctor's lack of compassion and being rude. I think

> > they

> > > > need to be patients so they can HEAR what we are told!

> > > >

> > > > Hugs!!

> > > >

> > > > Pamela

> > > > bobby glen

> > > > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:40 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > ok i have composed my self so sad ,just so sad about cheif,still

> > > > cant

> > > > > believe it, i too feel like i lost a family member ,so sad. bobby

> > > > > missed the dr. yesterday due to a wreck on his way home from work,

> > > > > they come in threes they say, a young lady was looking at a yard

> > > > sale

> > > > > and crossed the center line ,hit his bumper and side swiped the

> > > > > lenght of his truck,she flipped her car and was taken in an

> > > > > ambulance,it shook him up really bad ,she was our daughters age,he

> > > > > felt fine until he got out of the shower, so i carried him to the

> > > > er

> > > > > just to be safe and got xrays of his neck back and chest ,the er

> > > > dr.

> > > > > had me so mad i cried, he said, he felt he would be sore for a few

> > > > > days duh!!!! and he could give him pain meds. for the weekend but

> > > > if

> > > > > he was LOOKING for a script he would have to see someone else, my

> > > > > mouth hit the floor. i said excuse me dr. are you acusing my

> > > > husband

> > > > > of drug seeking, he just looked at me, so i carried on with let me

> > > > > tell you something ...my husband has esld ,he was in a wreck ,we

> > > > are

> > > > > here to get x rays not pain meds. where as he cant even take them

> > > > due

> > > > > to his liver, i was madder than a hornet,and can you believe he

> > > > > perscibed 20 lorcet i ripped the sctipt right in front of him,his

> > > > > chest exray looked good he said, he didnt see any need to run more

> > > > > tests for the shortness of breath. he said he didnt see that it was

> > > > > coming from the esld,so i guess we will rescudule the tests with

> > > > our

> > > > > family dr. i want it checked, cheif dieing has hit me in my head

> > > > like

> > > > > a brick ,this is real, bobbys gonna die ,and that dr. acted so nice

> > > > > after he saw how mad i was ,screw him, and all the car wreck drug

> > > > > seeking people who have made it so much harder on folks who try and

> > > > > do the right thing when involved in a car wreck...arent we supposed

> > > > > to seek med. attention?are we supposed to be treated with compation

> > > > > and respect?! whats wrong with this world its so messed up for

> > > > crying

> > > > > out loud. ok done venting thanks for listening love you all, barby

> > > > >

> > > > >