Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Which group do I join? One is moderated and one is not. I usually find a lot of spam on unmoderated groups. K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of ray bruns Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:24 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog , Do you belong to " microelectricitygermkiller " yahoo group? One pad on each side of the tumor, or top of tumor and other side of leg, with pads connected to 3 or 6 volt batteries via wires and aligator clips, reversing polarities every 5 minutes or so, maybe twice a day for 10 or 20 minutes. Don't let wires themselves touch dog, only wet pads. Ray Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 K, Since she seems not to be in what we could call stage IV, I would do one or the other. I would be concerned about overkill because cesium chloride is such an aggressive therapy. The tumor is sizeable from your description so that is a lot of material to pass out thru the kidneys. Lots of liquids to drink for sure. You could do topical cesium chloride with DMSO if the CC is small enough to pass thru the pores of the dog's skin with the dmso. It would localize it. Another protocol is to inject sodium bicarbonate solution into a tumor via syringe. It usually takes 3 weeks or so. Thing is, this is a bone tumor from all I can tell, and I do not know if injecting it would be possible for that reason. Is it too hard or can a syringe do the job? The sodium bicarb should be a pH of around just below 9 as I read in Simoncini's description. Cesium Chloride has a pH of 14 I think, so that is why it kills tumors even faster. Since she feels so good, seems slower is safer. Gerry Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi! Re Gerry's comment about Simoncini, my thinking on having read extensively on both Simoncini's work and Pantellini's research (8,000 documented cures already in 1994). The two protocols work on basically the same principle. I found that to be interesting. Taffy _____ From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of G Simpkins Sent: March-17-10 8:16 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog K, Since she seems not to be in what we could call stage IV, I would do one or the other. I would be concerned about overkill because cesium chloride is such an aggressive therapy. The tumor is sizeable from your description so that is a lot of material to pass out thru the kidneys. Lots of liquids to drink for sure. You could do topical cesium chloride with DMSO if the CC is small enough to pass thru the pores of the dog's skin with the dmso. It would localize it. Another protocol is to inject sodium bicarbonate solution into a tumor via syringe. It usually takes 3 weeks or so. Thing is, this is a bone tumor from all I can tell, and I do not know if injecting it would be possible for that reason. Is it too hard or can a syringe do the job? The sodium bicarb should be a pH of around just below 9 as I read in Simoncini's description. Cesium Chloride has a pH of 14 I think, so that is why it kills tumors even faster. Since she feels so good, seems slower is safer. Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Could anybody please tell me where I can get the 99.9% DMSO in a glass bottle bigger than 8 oz??? I am sure I am going to need more than 8 ounces, but the larger sizes are either in plastic or are 70/30%. I have been looking for 3 days now with no luck. Thanks, THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Thanks! The tumor is not really a tumor, but more of bone cells that have multiplied greatly. It is mostly hard. I have been warned by 2 vets to absolutely not break the skin as containing the resulting mess will not be easy. In fact both vets say if the skin breaks open or Hannah breaks the bone cancer cells at all, then she must be put down right away. I am not inclined to do that, but we'll see what happens. My fear is that she is still active and the chance of puncturing the skin or breaking the cancer is very high. Also, on the website: www.cancertutor.com it states never to take DMSO or CC orally, makes no sense. I am inclined to use the DMSO and CC topically but it also states on the above site to not put the combo directly on/near cancer cells. Any thoughts on that? And suggestions as to where to put the DMSO/CC? Thanks a lot everyone, I wish I had thought of finding this group 3 months ago!!!! THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of G Simpkins Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:16 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog K, Since she seems not to be in what we could call stage IV, I would do one or the other. I would be concerned about overkill because cesium chloride is such an aggressive therapy. The tumor is sizeable from your description so that is a lot of material to pass out thru the kidneys. Lots of liquids to drink for sure. You could do topical cesium chloride with DMSO if the CC is small enough to pass thru the pores of the dog's skin with the dmso. It would localize it. Another protocol is to inject sodium bicarbonate solution into a tumor via syringe. It usually takes 3 weeks or so. Thing is, this is a bone tumor from all I can tell, and I do not know if injecting it would be possible for that reason. Is it too hard or can a syringe do the job? The sodium bicarb should be a pH of around just below 9 as I read in Simoncini's description. Cesium Chloride has a pH of 14 I think, so that is why it kills tumors even faster. Since she feels so good, seems slower is safer. Gerry Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Do you knows if transdermal MMS can help with inflammation, like psoriasis? Be well, Léna > Look up www.jimhumble.biz > Buying MMS is also cheap. It is the transdermal application of > DMSO and MMS but MMS can also be taken internally on its own. It > has been known to help greatly with cancer. > http://www.mmsanswers.com/?p=484 > http://www.mmsanswers.com/?cat=8 > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 9:32:20 AM > Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > > Never heard of it – I’m off to Google Land. > > Thanks, > > K > > THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE > > www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) > > From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of jr > orrilia > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:21 PM > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > Hi . I don't know if someone mentioned this, to look into the > MMS J.Humble with DMSO protocol? If so, sorry if I am repeating. > Orrilia > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: " @LMF " <@LegacyMan orFarm.com > <mailto:% 40LegacyManorFar m.com> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com <mailto:DimethylSul > foxide-DMSO% 40yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:01:30 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > I agree, I think this is hereditary for sure. We got her from the > pound as a > pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts total and > 2 are > littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting Sophie to get > cancer > also. > > I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as these > gals do, > they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. > > > > THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE > > www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) > > From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > [mailto:DimethylSul foxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of > haecklers > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:42 PM > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > I don't know if it will make a difference, but it looks like > osteosarcoma is > hereditary - look at this site: > http://www.morrisan imalfoundation. org/pdf/93. pdf Maybe you > should contact > the breeder where you got her to let her know of this - it could be > bad > genes. > > I was just thinking today that the AKC would do well to change their > policies, so that they have a provisional registration and if too many > owners of offspring find hereditary disorders the registration of > the sire > or dam is revoked. I think they leave it too much up to the > integrity of the > breeders to keep out genetic problems, and meanwhile there is too much > inbreeding so the genetic problems are multiplying. They need to > cleanse the > gene pool! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi . You can put the DMSO/CC on his belly, especially if you find a hairless spot, or perhaps shave one, so that it gets right to the skin. Since the DMSO will go from there into the blood, it actually goes everywhere in the body. Since you can't put anything on the nose for fear of opening the skin, I'd stick with belly or actually putting it in something he will eat or drink. Why they say do not take them orally I have no idea. samala, Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. Let the Am Wand help you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt -------Original Message------- I am inclined to use the DMSO and CC topically but it also states on the above site to not put the combo directly on/near cancer cells. Any thoughts on that? And suggestions as to where to put the DMSO/CC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 , 6 volts are the big square ones. 3, 4 1/2, or 6 can be made with 1 1/2 volt batteries in series (2, 3, or 4). Reversing polarities means reverse the pads or the battery connections so the current goes the other way about every 5 minutes or so. This keeps the cells from ionizing in one direction only. God bless Hannah. Ray Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 , I belong to the unmoderated group. Look up " The Godzilla " Ray Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hi Lena. I have used the MMS and DMSO protocol for eczema on my foot and it was gone within 3 weeks, fading gradually, and still use it on the area for maintenance twice a week. It takes only a few minutes. see http://www.jimhumble.biz/biz-skin.htm ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 12:40:03 PM Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Do you knows if transdermal MMS can help with inflammation, like psoriasis? Be well, Léna > Look up www.jimhumble.biz > Buying MMS is also cheap. It is the transdermal application of > DMSO and MMS but MMS can also be taken internally on its own. It > has been known to help greatly with cancer. > http://www.mmsanswers.com/?p=484 > http://www.mmsanswers.com/?cat=8 > > ________________________________ > > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 9:32:20 AM > Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > > Never heard of it – I’m off to Google Land. > > Thanks, > > K > > THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE > > www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) > > From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of jr > orrilia > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:21 PM > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > Hi . I don't know if someone mentioned this, to look into the > MMS J.Humble with DMSO protocol? If so, sorry if I am repeating. > Orrilia > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: " @LMF " <@LegacyMan orFarm.com > <mailto:% 40LegacyManorFar m.com> > > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com <mailto:DimethylSul > foxide-DMSO% 40yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:01:30 PM > Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > I agree, I think this is hereditary for sure. We got her from the > pound as a > pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts total and > 2 are > littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting Sophie to get > cancer > also. > > I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as these > gals do, > they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. > > > > THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE > > www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) > > From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > [mailto:DimethylSul foxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of > haecklers > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:42 PM > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com > Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > I don't know if it will make a difference, but it looks like > osteosarcoma is > hereditary - look at this site: > http://www.morrisan imalfoundation. org/pdf/93. pdf Maybe you > should contact > the breeder where you got her to let her know of this - it could be > bad > genes. > > I was just thinking today that the AKC would do well to change their > policies, so that they have a provisional registration and if too many > owners of offspring find hereditary disorders the registration of > the sire > or dam is revoked. I think they leave it too much up to the > integrity of the > breeders to keep out genetic problems, and meanwhile there is too much > inbreeding so the genetic problems are multiplying. They need to > cleanse the > gene pool! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well of course. Poultry, beef, pork, lamb, veal bones. K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of elan_spire Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:26 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > Hannah has always eaten our own 'clean' raw meats, raw eggs, raw milk, etc. > Hi , Has Hannah also eaten raw meaty bones along with raw meats, eggs and milk? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Ok thanks, I'll give this a try although my husband thinks I am nuts. Thanks for the prayers also! K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of ray bruns Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:30 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog , 6 volts are the big square ones. 3, 4 1/2, or 6 can be made with 1 1/2 volt batteries in series (2, 3, or 4). Reversing polarities means reverse the pads or the battery connections so the current goes the other way about every 5 minutes or so. This keeps the cells from ionizing in one direction only. God bless Hannah. Ray Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 , If the dmso is not to be put on the tumor or as close as possible, what good is it? The objective is to get both oxygen and CC or SB into the tumor to make it where it cannot feed itself. So what they say makes no sense. Do a search on Dr Howenstine and see what he says about the cesium chloride. I will see if I can find a link to a site I know of and sent it along. Gerry Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Vaccinations?? Gail > > Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:01 PM > I agree, I think this is hereditary > for sure. We got her from the pound as a > pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts > total and 2 are > littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting > Sophie to get cancer > also. > > > > I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as > these gals do, > they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Never none, not even rabies. K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Gail Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:35 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Vaccinations?? Gail > From: @LMF <@... <mailto:%40LegacyManorFarm.com> > > Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 4:01 PM > I agree, I think this is hereditary > for sure. We got her from the pound as a > pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts > total and 2 are > littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting > Sophie to get cancer > also. > > > > I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as > these gals do, > they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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