Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Sure. Here it is. There is another person that uses a coffee pot to make the tea, and I've placed that info below this original method. INSTRUCTIONS FOR PREPARING ACGN HERBAL TONIC INGREDIENTS Powdered herbs: Chaparral (Larrea tridentata), Graviola (Annona muricata), Neem (Azadirachta indica), Andrographis (Andrographis paniculata,) PREPARING THE TONIC · Use 30 g (3 level tablespoons plus 1 level teaspoon) of the herb mix per 300 mL of water (this will make approximately 200 mL of tonic). · Mix and allow to soak for 1 – 2 hours. · Cover and simmer for 20 minutes, stirring occasionally (don’t leave the room as this mixture boils over very easily and the mess isn’t pleasant to clean up as I found out!). · Keep covered until completely cool (overnight is ideal). · Pour off the liquid slowly, trying to leave the powder behind (I filter mine several times, first through coarse cloth, then through fine cloth and finally through paper towel on fine Cloth – at each stage I squeeze the straining cloth to remove as much liquid as possible). · Bottle and keep in fridge (keeps for at least 4 weeks when refrigerated). DOSE 1 - 3 mL per kg bodyweight per day, given in divided doses (e.g. 5 kg animal would get 5 - 15 mL per day, given as 2.5 – 7.5 mL x twice daily; 28 kg animal would get 28 - 84 mL per day, given as 14 - 42 mL x twice daily) Start with the lowest dose and if you don’t see an improvement in 3 days to 1 week, increase the dose until you notice an improvement. I recommend that you don’t give more than three times the recommended lowest dose, although some animals and humans have taken very large doses without ill effect. MAINTENANCE DOSE When the animal is healthy again, it is recommended that a maintenance dose, ½ the base dose, is given for a period of time to maintain health. The time your pet needs to remain on a maintenance dose may vary according to the severity of your pet’s original health problems. Carole Dubhain, Eideann & Fionn (Tristania GSDs) carole@... www.berigorafarm.com.au PS forgot to add I simply call the tonic ACGN tonic (first letter of each herb in the mix - in alphabetical order) so that I can differentiate it from other herbal mixes I use. I also don't want to make claims that it can " cure cancer or whatever, so calling it ACGN tonic avoids giving anyone unrealistic expectations. THIS IS THE COFFEE POT METHOD THAT SOMEONE ELSE USES The way I make it is in a coffee pot ... Pour in 4 cups of water ... Put 1/4 cup of herb powder (1 ounce) into a paper coffee filter and brew it. There is no mess, just toss out the filter. I know this is not what Pat advocated, but it seems to work just as well as the freeze method and is certainly a lot less trouble. My Hubby takes about 3 tablespoons a day. I have not used it for a pet so don't know how to advise. I am presently taking a break from the tonic. I took it faithfully for a year and it helped the arthritis in my fingers tremendously. I had a finger that locked every time I bent it. It does not lock any more. I will resume taking it if I have problems. My hubby still takes it everyday. He had a hand that was crushed in a work related accident (72 broken bones) He had surgery at that time (about 15 years ago) and was in constant pain. He could not wear a watch on that wrist. His doctor wanted to do additional surgery and cut the nerves to alleviate the pain. He did not consent to the surgery and started taking tonic. He seldom has any pain now and can wear his watch again. He swears by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thanks, we are on well water. K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:48 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog You may want to give her non-fluoridated water, too. Fluoride in water has been linked to bone cancer in humans. See http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190977,00.html . > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hi , Are the herbs in equal proportions by weight or volume to make the mixture, and which part of the Graviola is used: Leaves, Seeds, Bark , Root, becouse they have different properties as I read info about. Also the Neem--the leaves or the seeds.   Where can I buy this products from. Thanks for the info  Iva Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 11:52 AM  Sure. Here it is. There is another person that uses a coffee pot to make the tea, and I've placed that info below this original method. INSTRUCTIONS FOR PREPARING ACGN HERBAL TONIC INGREDIENTS Powdered herbs: Chaparral (Larrea tridentata), Graviola (Annona muricata), Neem (Azadirachta indica), Andrographis (Andrographis paniculata,) PREPARING THE TONIC · Use 30 g (3 level tablespoons plus 1 level teaspoon) of the herb mix per 300 mL of water (this will make approximately 200 mL of tonic). · Mix and allow to soak for 1 – 2 hours. · Cover and simmer for 20 minutes, stirring occasionally (don’t leave the room as this mixture boils over very easily and the mess isn’t pleasant to clean up as I found out!). · Keep covered until completely cool (overnight is ideal). · Pour off the liquid slowly, trying to leave the powder behind (I filter mine several times, first through coarse cloth, then through fine cloth and finally through paper towel on fine Cloth – at each stage I squeeze the straining cloth to remove as much liquid as possible). · Bottle and keep in fridge (keeps for at least 4 weeks when refrigerated) . DOSE 1 - 3 mL per kg bodyweight per day, given in divided doses (e.g. 5 kg animal would get 5 - 15 mL per day, given as 2.5 – 7.5 mL x twice daily; 28 kg animal would get 28 - 84 mL per day, given as 14 - 42 mL x twice daily) Start with the lowest dose and if you don’t see an improvement in 3 days to 1 week, increase the dose until you notice an improvement. I recommend that you don’t give more than three times the recommended lowest dose, although some animals and humans have taken very large doses without ill effect. MAINTENANCE DOSE When the animal is healthy again, it is recommended that a maintenance dose, ½ the base dose, is given for a period of time to maintain health. The time your pet needs to remain on a maintenance dose may vary according to the severity of your pet’s original health problems. Carole Dubhain, Eideann & Fionn (Tristania GSDs) carole@berigorafarm .com.au www.berigorafarm. com.au PS forgot to add I simply call the tonic ACGN tonic (first letter of each herb in the mix - in alphabetical order) so that I can differentiate it from other herbal mixes I use. I also don't want to make claims that it can " cure cancer or whatever, so calling it ACGN tonic avoids giving anyone unrealistic expectations. THIS IS THE COFFEE POT METHOD THAT SOMEONE ELSE USES The way I make it is in a coffee pot ... Pour in 4 cups of water ... Put 1/4 cup of herb powder (1 ounce) into a paper coffee filter and brew it. There is no mess, just toss out the filter. I know this is not what Pat advocated, but it seems to work just as well as the freeze method and is certainly a lot less trouble. My Hubby takes about 3 tablespoons a day. I have not used it for a pet so don't know how to advise. I am presently taking a break from the tonic. I took it faithfully for a year and it helped the arthritis in my fingers tremendously. I had a finger that locked every time I bent it. It does not lock any more. I will resume taking it if I have problems. My hubby still takes it everyday. He had a hand that was crushed in a work related accident (72 broken bones) He had surgery at that time (about 15 years ago) and was in constant pain. He could not wear a watch on that wrist. His doctor wanted to do additional surgery and cut the nerves to alleviate the pain. He did not consent to the surgery and started taking tonic. He seldom has any pain now and can wear his watch again. He swears by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hi Iva. I went and found the rest of the recipe. Plus the places where you can buy the herbs. As far as which parts of the plant--mostly you just order the whole herb. And it's whatever part they use--which is usually leaves and twigs, flowers if they are noted. Usually not seeds unless it's a special plant, like lobelia. So order the powdered herb--this will do it. Don't order 'powdered seed' or 'flowers'. You want the full herb. I'm also enclosing the original recipe from the developer of the formula. She use to freeze the tonic, as noted in the recipe, as a means of intensifying and filtering. But most everyone now has switched to just filtering with coffee filters. Also, this recipe gives measurements for dog's weight so you get a better idea. BULK HERB SUPPLIERS - as of Jan 2007: http://www.mountainroseherbs.com Order Neem leaf powder http://www.herbalcom.com Order Chaparral leaf powder AND Graviola powder http://www.1stchineseherbs.com Order Chuan Xin Lian Andrographis Herb Powder All of these suppliers were very fast to ship and I had good experience ordering from them. I spent around $80 and have enough herbs to last me forever I think. I ordered 2 lbs of everything except 1 lb of andrographis. I got a cheap little digital postage scale on eBay that weighs grams for around $20 and a capsule maker and capsules for making them for myself. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ INSTRUCTIONS FOR TONIC Tonic Herbs: 1/2 part Andrographis 1 part Chaparral 1 part Graviola 1 part Neem Mix approximately one ounce of herb mix with about 2-3 cups of water. Most people use a double boiler but I have successfully used a stainless steel saucepan myself. Simmer about 20-30 minutes on medium-low heat and then set aside overnight to cool and steep. I pour off the liquid into small plastic containers, trying not to get too many solids. (I have an idea that using whole herbs might be easier to get less solids in the 'tea' but have only powdered herbs here right now) I have filtered through a coffee filter sometimes but it's a messy process for me. Freezing then thawing a time or two will force the rest of the solids out of the tea so you can pour that off into another container. I don't try to freeze-thaw the mixture because I don't feel it concentrates it any. I saw as much color in the ice as I did in the liquid. I start with less water to begin with so it's as concentrated as I can make it. It doesn't seem to make a difference in the way you make it whether or not it works. The amount of water, length of time to cook, double boiler or not. ..I have tried it with plain water as shown above, used 50/50 grain alcohol and water and both worked. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Dosage: more is better My dog, Missy, who weighed 40 pounds, was getting one tablespoon a day for a long time without too much effect except that it did make her peppier and feel better from her arthritis. When I increased that to 2T twice a day, I saw an amazing effect on her exposed tumor. It started to break open and ooze from the inside out. This was at the very end of her life and I only wish I had increased the dosage more from the beginning. One note: When I took capsules of the herbs myself as a preventative type thing, I did notice that I needed to then replenish my system with some probiotics after I stopped the herbs. I don't know if cycles of herbs and then probiotics would be the best way to handle this or not. I didn't give them to my dog because she never got off the tonic before she died. The tonic is a natural antibiotic and so I think it also kills off the " good " bacteria in the system. I got where I couldn't digest milk or eggs or some other things until I had gone through a couple weeks of probiotics. Of course if you actively have cancer, you can't mess around. I'm just thinking of people that take tonic as a preventative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hannah has always eaten our own 'clean' raw meats, raw eggs, raw milk, etc. We don't use chemicals in the house, we don't have carpet, and we don't use any pesticides or herbicides outside anywhere. I couldn't get an appt with a acupuncture/holistic vet for about 2 months so being quite bummed out I started to research and started her on fresh colostrum, a mushroom based immune supplement (K9 Immunity) and a Transfer Factor. I also immediately started her on 1000 mgs Vit C a day, 3 Omega 3,6,9 caps twice a day, and when I ran out of the K9 and T Factor, I started her on Zeolite and Agarigold (mushroom extract). She stayed on that for a month when the vet called and said they had a cancellation if we wanted to come in. Took her in and started her on a bunch of supplements including Neoplasene orally, a proven cancer killer on certain cancers. For the next 2 months, the cancer has continued to grow and the vet is now recommending we put Hannah down even though she still has a great attitude and gets around fairly well. The vet is concerned Hannah will break the bone, not that there is any bone left. It is now the size of a softball and bigger. Due to the Neo in my opinion, Hannah started to stop eating raw foods and I have had to at least partially cook her foods. Vet says that 'may' be due to the Neo but more so due to Hannah getting too weak to digest her foods. I am on a Neo Yahoo group and everyone has agreed that their dogs did the same thing. As of a month ago, I had put Hannah on laetrile starting at 500 mg twice a day and she is now up to 600 mgs twice a day. The vet was against this of course, but did admit that Hannah didn't smell bad anymore, nor was she 'hot', her tongue looked a lot more normal and her cancer was not as hot to the touch. I still have her on laetrile and all her supplements, but I've just pulled her off the Neo a week ago and want to try another approach. I'm either putting her on the DMSO and Cesium Chloride (Barefoot Protocol) protocol either by itself or also applying DMOS and apricot oil (laetrile/B17) below the cancer cells topically. I don't want to open the skin at all as that will be a nightmare, but I feel I have to try another approach. I am not sure that the Neo is doing the job on bone cancer as it does much better on topical cancers, and I think I would like to up the laetrile intake more either orally or topically. I am working with a naturapathic human doc for dosages and such as the holistic vet doesn't believe that anything is going to help Hannah at this point which 'may' be true, but Hannah still loves running around too much for me to just not do anything. If anything she is doing better than anyone has expected. Any suggestions? THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of elan_spire Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:26 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 ; You may want to look at Artemisinin (there is a group here on Yahoo). Artemisinin is a proven cancer killer as well & Non Toxic. It also mixes with DMSO. I don't know the ratio, just that it is proven to dissolve in DMSO. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.... Everything can change in the blink of an eye. But don't worry; God never blinks. From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of @LMF Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:10 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Hannah has always eaten our own 'clean' raw meats, raw eggs, raw milk, etc. We don't use chemicals in the house, we don't have carpet, and we don't use any pesticides or herbicides outside anywhere. I couldn't get an appt with a acupuncture/holistic vet for about 2 months so being quite bummed out I started to research and started her on fresh colostrum, a mushroom based immune supplement (K9 Immunity) and a Transfer Factor. I also immediately started her on 1000 mgs Vit C a day, 3 Omega 3,6,9 caps twice a day, and when I ran out of the K9 and T Factor, I started her on Zeolite and Agarigold (mushroom extract). She stayed on that for a month when the vet called and said they had a cancellation if we wanted to come in. Took her in and started her on a bunch of supplements including Neoplasene orally, a proven cancer killer on certain cancers. For the next 2 months, the cancer has continued to grow and the vet is now recommending we put Hannah down even though she still has a great attitude and gets around fairly well. The vet is concerned Hannah will break the bone, not that there is any bone left. It is now the size of a softball and bigger. Due to the Neo in my opinion, Hannah started to stop eating raw foods and I have had to at least partially cook her foods. Vet says that 'may' be due to the Neo but more so due to Hannah getting too weak to digest her foods. I am on a Neo Yahoo group and everyone has agreed that their dogs did the same thing. As of a month ago, I had put Hannah on laetrile starting at 500 mg twice a day and she is now up to 600 mgs twice a day. The vet was against this of course, but did admit that Hannah didn't smell bad anymore, nor was she 'hot', her tongue looked a lot more normal and her cancer was not as hot to the touch. I still have her on laetrile and all her supplements, but I've just pulled her off the Neo a week ago and want to try another approach. I'm either putting her on the DMSO and Cesium Chloride (Barefoot Protocol) protocol either by itself or also applying DMOS and apricot oil (laetrile/B17) below the cancer cells topically. I don't want to open the skin at all as that will be a nightmare, but I feel I have to try another approach. I am not sure that the Neo is doing the job on bone cancer as it does much better on topical cancers, and I think I would like to up the laetrile intake more either orally or topically. I am working with a naturapathic human doc for dosages and such as the holistic vet doesn't believe that anything is going to help Hannah at this point which 'may' be true, but Hannah still loves running around too much for me to just not do anything. If anything she is doing better than anyone has expected. Any suggestions? THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of elan_spire Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:26 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 NyteByte wrote: > ; > > You may want to look at Artemisinin (there is a group here on Yahoo). > > Artemisinin is a proven cancer killer as well & Non Toxic. > > It also mixes with DMSO. > I know of one vet who applied it topically to a tumor. I've never had occasion to try it, but I remember reading the ratio would be 50/50. In the case I know of it was actually artemether and not aretmesinin (though I have seen discussion that artemesinin should work) that was used. And unfortunately the way the vet applied it was not at all optimal. It is said to be best to mix the DMSO with the substance before application, but in the instance I refer to, the vet applied a mix of 50/50 DMSO/distilled water, let that dry (up to an hour or more!) then applied a paste of artemether. So I wasn't surprised it was not all that effective. sol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Yes, a couple ppl on the Neo group have discontinued Neo and are using Arte and Avemar. I will tell them to check out using it with DMSO. K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of NyteByte Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:49 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog ; You may want to look at Artemisinin (there is a group here on Yahoo). Artemisinin is a proven cancer killer as well & Non Toxic. It also mixes with DMSO. I don't know the ratio, just that it is proven to dissolve in DMSO. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.... Everything can change in the blink of an eye. But don't worry; God never blinks. From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of @LMF Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:10 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Hannah has always eaten our own 'clean' raw meats, raw eggs, raw milk, etc. We don't use chemicals in the house, we don't have carpet, and we don't use any pesticides or herbicides outside anywhere. I couldn't get an appt with a acupuncture/holistic vet for about 2 months so being quite bummed out I started to research and started her on fresh colostrum, a mushroom based immune supplement (K9 Immunity) and a Transfer Factor. I also immediately started her on 1000 mgs Vit C a day, 3 Omega 3,6,9 caps twice a day, and when I ran out of the K9 and T Factor, I started her on Zeolite and Agarigold (mushroom extract). She stayed on that for a month when the vet called and said they had a cancellation if we wanted to come in. Took her in and started her on a bunch of supplements including Neoplasene orally, a proven cancer killer on certain cancers. For the next 2 months, the cancer has continued to grow and the vet is now recommending we put Hannah down even though she still has a great attitude and gets around fairly well. The vet is concerned Hannah will break the bone, not that there is any bone left. It is now the size of a softball and bigger. Due to the Neo in my opinion, Hannah started to stop eating raw foods and I have had to at least partially cook her foods. Vet says that 'may' be due to the Neo but more so due to Hannah getting too weak to digest her foods. I am on a Neo Yahoo group and everyone has agreed that their dogs did the same thing. As of a month ago, I had put Hannah on laetrile starting at 500 mg twice a day and she is now up to 600 mgs twice a day. The vet was against this of course, but did admit that Hannah didn't smell bad anymore, nor was she 'hot', her tongue looked a lot more normal and her cancer was not as hot to the touch. I still have her on laetrile and all her supplements, but I've just pulled her off the Neo a week ago and want to try another approach. I'm either putting her on the DMSO and Cesium Chloride (Barefoot Protocol) protocol either by itself or also applying DMOS and apricot oil (laetrile/B17) below the cancer cells topically. I don't want to open the skin at all as that will be a nightmare, but I feel I have to try another approach. I am not sure that the Neo is doing the job on bone cancer as it does much better on topical cancers, and I think I would like to up the laetrile intake more either orally or topically. I am working with a naturapathic human doc for dosages and such as the holistic vet doesn't believe that anything is going to help Hannah at this point which 'may' be true, but Hannah still loves running around too much for me to just not do anything. If anything she is doing better than anyone has expected. Any suggestions? THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of elan_spire Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:26 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Yes usually when we use in on livestock we mix the DMSO with what we need to be carried in and apply. Makes no sense at all to apply the DMSO first!!! K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of sol Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:59 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog NyteByte wrote: > ; > > You may want to look at Artemisinin (there is a group here on Yahoo). > > Artemisinin is a proven cancer killer as well & Non Toxic. > > It also mixes with DMSO. > I know of one vet who applied it topically to a tumor. I've never had occasion to try it, but I remember reading the ratio would be 50/50. In the case I know of it was actually artemether and not aretmesinin (though I have seen discussion that artemesinin should work) that was used. And unfortunately the way the vet applied it was not at all optimal. It is said to be best to mix the DMSO with the substance before application, but in the instance I refer to, the vet applied a mix of 50/50 DMSO/distilled water, let that dry (up to an hour or more!) then applied a paste of artemether. So I wasn't surprised it was not all that effective. sol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 _____ * > I am working with a naturapathic human doc for dosages and such as the > holistic vet doesn't believe that anything is going to help Hannah at this > point which 'may' be true, but Hannah still loves running around too much > for me to just not do anything. If anything she is doing better than anyone > has expected. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > * * Hi, : * * You may wish to consider trying the Pantelllini formula, provided below. You will find info about Dr. Pantellini's work on the internet. * * Taffy Pantellini formula, which we first learned about in 1994. It is very simple. Pure Potassium Bicarbonate Powder Pure Ascorbic Acid Powder A few drops of fresh lemon About two - three ounces of water The suggestion given to us was to take one eighth of a teaspoon of each powder and mix it in the small quantity of water which should contain a few drops of fresh lemon to activate the various C's.not artificial lemon! We were told that it is vital to not pre - mix the powders, but to put them into the liquid one at a time and two, that one must drink this while it is fizzing, because that is when the reaction is taking place. The suggestion was to take this three times a day, forty five minutes before meals, if ill..once a day as a preventative. If the person tolerates it well, the amounts we were told can be increased, as long as the same measurement of each powder is the same.ie, both one quarter teaspoon, for example. The consistency of the two powders must be exactly the same, because the formula is by weight and not by volume. The potassium bicarbonate weighs twice as much as the ascorbic acid.and the formula is two to one, twice the weight of the potassium bicarbonate to once the weight of the ascorbic acid powder. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I agree, I think this is hereditary for sure. We got her from the pound as a pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts total and 2 are littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting Sophie to get cancer also. I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as these gals do, they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog I don't know if it will make a difference, but it looks like osteosarcoma is hereditary - look at this site: http://www.morrisanimalfoundation.org/pdf/93.pdf Maybe you should contact the breeder where you got her to let her know of this - it could be bad genes. I was just thinking today that the AKC would do well to change their policies, so that they have a provisional registration and if too many owners of offspring find hereditary disorders the registration of the sire or dam is revoked. I think they leave it too much up to the integrity of the breeders to keep out genetic problems, and meanwhile there is too much inbreeding so the genetic problems are multiplying. They need to cleanse the gene pool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Good to know. I'll pass that info on also. K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:33 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Artemisinin works better with butyric acid taken at the same time. > > > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. > She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune > building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her > protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the > carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > > > > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? > > Elan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Sounds good for humans, but I don't think I'm gonna get that down a dog. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Taffy Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:00 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog _____ * > I am working with a naturapathic human doc for dosages and such as the > holistic vet doesn't believe that anything is going to help Hannah at this > point which 'may' be true, but Hannah still loves running around too much > for me to just not do anything. If anything she is doing better than anyone > has expected. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > * * Hi, : * * You may wish to consider trying the Pantelllini formula, provided below. You will find info about Dr. Pantellini's work on the internet. * * Taffy Pantellini formula, which we first learned about in 1994. It is very simple. Pure Potassium Bicarbonate Powder Pure Ascorbic Acid Powder A few drops of fresh lemon About two - three ounces of water The suggestion given to us was to take one eighth of a teaspoon of each powder and mix it in the small quantity of water which should contain a few drops of fresh lemon to activate the various C's.not artificial lemon! We were told that it is vital to not pre - mix the powders, but to put them into the liquid one at a time and two, that one must drink this while it is fizzing, because that is when the reaction is taking place. The suggestion was to take this three times a day, forty five minutes before meals, if ill..once a day as a preventative. If the person tolerates it well, the amounts we were told can be increased, as long as the same measurement of each powder is the same.ie, both one quarter teaspoon, for example. The consistency of the two powders must be exactly the same, because the formula is by weight and not by volume. The potassium bicarbonate weighs twice as much as the ascorbic acid.and the formula is two to one, twice the weight of the potassium bicarbonate to once the weight of the ascorbic acid powder. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Actually, it might be possible, depending on your dog. The person we learned it from said that he was so sceptical when he first learned of this formula that he decided to try it on his son's dog..the animal was sick with cancer. It apparently cured the dog. I have managed to get this down a dog's throat with the equivalent of a turkey baster..but the dog was very sweet tempered and would let me try virtually anything. All the best, Taffy _____ From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of @LMF Sent: March-16-10 2:35 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Sounds good for humans, but I don't think I'm gonna get that down a dog. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO ] On Behalf Of Taffy Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:00 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog _____ * > I am working with a naturapathic human doc for dosages and such as the > holistic vet doesn't believe that anything is going to help Hannah at this > point which 'may' be true, but Hannah still loves running around too much > for me to just not do anything. If anything she is doing better than anyone > has expected. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > * * Hi, : * * You may wish to consider trying the Pantelllini formula, provided below. You will find info about Dr. Pantellini's work on the internet. * * Taffy Pantellini formula, which we first learned about in 1994. It is very simple. Pure Potassium Bicarbonate Powder Pure Ascorbic Acid Powder A few drops of fresh lemon About two - three ounces of water The suggestion given to us was to take one eighth of a teaspoon of each powder and mix it in the small quantity of water which should contain a few drops of fresh lemon to activate the various C's.not artificial lemon! We were told that it is vital to not pre - mix the powders, but to put them into the liquid one at a time and two, that one must drink this while it is fizzing, because that is when the reaction is taking place. The suggestion was to take this three times a day, forty five minutes before meals, if ill..once a day as a preventative. If the person tolerates it well, the amounts we were told can be increased, as long as the same measurement of each powder is the same.ie, both one quarter teaspoon, for example. The consistency of the two powders must be exactly the same, because the formula is by weight and not by volume. The potassium bicarbonate weighs twice as much as the ascorbic acid.and the formula is two to one, twice the weight of the potassium bicarbonate to once the weight of the ascorbic acid powder. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi . I don't know if someone mentioned this, to look into the MMS J.Humble with DMSO protocol? If so, sorry if I am repeating. Orrilia ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:01:30 PM Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog  I agree, I think this is hereditary for sure. We got her from the pound as a pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts total and 2 are littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting Sophie to get cancer also. I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as these gals do, they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog I don't know if it will make a difference, but it looks like osteosarcoma is hereditary - look at this site: http://www.morrisan imalfoundation. org/pdf/93. pdf Maybe you should contact the breeder where you got her to let her know of this - it could be bad genes. I was just thinking today that the AKC would do well to change their policies, so that they have a provisional registration and if too many owners of offspring find hereditary disorders the registration of the sire or dam is revoked. I think they leave it too much up to the integrity of the breeders to keep out genetic problems, and meanwhile there is too much inbreeding so the genetic problems are multiplying. They need to cleanse the gene pool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Go slow with the cesium chloride. It is a stage IV protocol and is really aggressive therapy. Seems that the real worry with it is that it can easily kill the cancer so fast, that it can cause renal failure by clogging the kidneys with dead cancer cells. If she smells better and the surface temp of the cancer is lower, those are two positive signs. Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 It is possible to just put the baster in between the cheek and gums of the dog, then squeeze. This makes the liquid go down the throat and they automatically swallow. Much easier than trying to pry their jaws apart to put it down their throat over the tongue. samala, Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. Let the Am Wand help you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt -------Original Message------- I have managed to get this down a dog's throat with the equivalent of a turkey baster..but the dog was very sweet tempered and would let me try virtually anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 , Do you belong to " microelectricitygermkiller " yahoo group? One pad on each side of the tumor, or top of tumor and other side of leg, with pads connected to 3 or 6 volt batteries via wires and aligator clips, reversing polarities every 5 minutes or so, maybe twice a day for 10 or 20 minutes. Don't let wires themselves touch dog, only wet pads. Ray Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well, I guess I'll give it a try. But I'm sure I won't be getting a second shot down her!!! Does anyone know whether the pure ascorbic acid powder is the same as sour salt? I have several bottles of that for when we put up veggies. It says on the bottle that it is ascorbic acid and that stuff sure is sour. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Taffy Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:49 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Actually, it might be possible, depending on your dog. The person we learned it from said that he was so sceptical when he first learned of this formula that he decided to try it on his son's dog..the animal was sick with cancer. It apparently cured the dog. I have managed to get this down a dog's throat with the equivalent of a turkey baster..but the dog was very sweet tempered and would let me try virtually anything. All the best, Taffy _____ From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of @LMF Sent: March-16-10 2:35 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Sounds good for humans, but I don't think I'm gonna get that down a dog. _._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Should I keep her on the laetrile along with the Cesium if I go that route? K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of G Simpkins Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:21 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Go slow with the cesium chloride. It is a stage IV protocol and is really aggressive therapy. Seems that the real worry with it is that it can easily kill the cancer so fast, that it can cause renal failure by clogging the kidneys with dead cancer cells. If she smells better and the surface temp of the cancer is lower, those are two positive signs. Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Never heard of it – I’m off to Google Land. Thanks, K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of jr orrilia Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:21 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Hi . I don't know if someone mentioned this, to look into the MMS J.Humble with DMSO protocol? If so, sorry if I am repeating. Orrilia ________________________________ From: " @LMF " <@... <mailto:%40LegacyManorFarm.com> > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:01:30 PM Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog I agree, I think this is hereditary for sure. We got her from the pound as a pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts total and 2 are littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting Sophie to get cancer also. I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as these gals do, they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog I don't know if it will make a difference, but it looks like osteosarcoma is hereditary - look at this site: http://www.morrisan imalfoundation. org/pdf/93. pdf Maybe you should contact the breeder where you got her to let her know of this - it could be bad genes. I was just thinking today that the AKC would do well to change their policies, so that they have a provisional registration and if too many owners of offspring find hereditary disorders the registration of the sire or dam is revoked. I think they leave it too much up to the integrity of the breeders to keep out genetic problems, and meanwhile there is too much inbreeding so the genetic problems are multiplying. They need to cleanse the gene pool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 WOW!!! Interesting. I'm headed there now. How is this supposed to react with the cancer, do you know? Stupid question, but the 3 or 6 volt batteries - are they the big square ones? And exactly what is reversing polarities. If this is way OT, please reply privately. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of ray bruns Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:24 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog , Do you belong to " microelectricitygermkiller " yahoo group? One pad on each side of the tumor, or top of tumor and other side of leg, with pads connected to 3 or 6 volt batteries via wires and aligator clips, reversing polarities every 5 minutes or so, maybe twice a day for 10 or 20 minutes. Don't let wires themselves touch dog, only wet pads. Ray Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog > > My Rott was diagnosed 3 months ago with bone cancer in her right foreleg. She goes to a holistic vet and receives acupuncture along with some immune building supplements. I have taken it upon myself to add laetrile to her protocol. I am now looking at using apricot oil topically with DMSO as the carrier into the cancerous cells. Has anyone had any experience with this? > Sorry to hear about your sick pup. May I ask, what do you feed her? Elan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Look up www.jimhumble.biz Buying MMS is also cheap. It is the transdermal application of DMSO and MMS but MMS can also be taken internally on its own. It has been known to help greatly with cancer. http://www.mmsanswers.com/?p=484 http://www.mmsanswers.com/?cat=8 ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 9:32:20 AM Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog  Never heard of it – I’m off to Google Land. Thanks, K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of jr orrilia Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:21 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Hi . I don't know if someone mentioned this, to look into the MMS J.Humble with DMSO protocol? If so, sorry if I am repeating. Orrilia ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " @LMF " <@LegacyMan orFarm.com <mailto:% 40LegacyManorFar m.com> > To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com <mailto:DimethylSul foxide-DMSO% 40yahoogroups. com> Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 5:01:30 PM Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog I agree, I think this is hereditary for sure. We got her from the pound as a pup, so don't know her parents. We actually have 3 Rotts total and 2 are littermates. One of which is Hannah, so I'm expecting Sophie to get cancer also. I just can't believe that for a dog that lives as clean as these gals do, they end up with cancer, so it has to be genetics. THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm .com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com [mailto:DimethylSul foxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide- DMSO@yahoogroups .com Subject: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog I don't know if it will make a difference, but it looks like osteosarcoma is hereditary - look at this site: http://www.morrisan imalfoundation. org/pdf/93. pdf Maybe you should contact the breeder where you got her to let her know of this - it could be bad genes. I was just thinking today that the AKC would do well to change their policies, so that they have a provisional registration and if too many owners of offspring find hereditary disorders the registration of the sire or dam is revoked. I think they leave it too much up to the integrity of the breeders to keep out genetic problems, and meanwhile there is too much inbreeding so the genetic problems are multiplying. They need to cleanse the gene pool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 ..at the risk of opening a huge debate here, I feel that I must tell you that I tried MMS for my sick Pomeranian..and he immediately went downhill so fast it was incredible..i lost him..it still hurts. I recommended it (and never will again) to a friend with intestinal cancer...she appeared to rapidly get worse after an MMS protocol.yes, it might be coincidence, but I would never go there again. I do believe that in cases of malaria, it is a wonderful tool..I also recommended it to a friend who had suffered from malaria and for that it appeared to help her immensely. That is the only application of MMS that I feel comfortable with..just my one cents worth. Taffy _____ From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of @LMF Sent: March-17-10 6:32 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Never heard of it - I'm off to Google Land. Thanks, K THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (land) From: DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO ] On Behalf Of jr orrilia Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:21 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog Hi . I don't know if someone mentioned this, to look into the MMS J.Humble with DMSO protocol? If so, sorry if I am repeating. Orrilia ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 _____ From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of @LMF Sent: March-17-10 6:19 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Re: Osteosarcoma in Dog wrote: Does anyone know whether the pure ascorbic acid powder is the same as sour salt? I have several bottles of that for when we put up veggies. It says on the bottle that it is ascorbic acid and that stuff sure is sour. Hi, .no, I am quite sure that it is not the same as sour salt...for the Pantellini formula to stand a chance of working, the PURE ascorbic acid and the PURE potassium bicarbonate powders must be very find and of the same consistency. The formula is by weight and not by volume.meaning that one eighth of a teaspoon of the potassium powder would weigh twice as much as one eighth of a teaspoon of the ascorbic acid powder. Mixed in a little fresh lemon with water, it actually tastes not bad at all! It should be taken while fizzing..with the dog, as close to that as possible. Taffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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