Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers". But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change now. Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 My favorite come back when people say she should not work/run for office is: “But wait…you cant tell a woman what to do with her body.” Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I HEAR THAT ONE! My husband says it does not explain the amnio that SHE had! Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Kathy Ratkiewicz Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:18 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Wonder what they do with all the witnesses at the conference in Texas when she went into labor and hopped on a plane back to Alaska to deliver. [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I mean, I heard that one… Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Dinkins-Borkowski Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:30 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I HEAR THAT ONE! My husband says it does not explain the amnio that SHE had! Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Kathy Ratkiewicz Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:18 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Well, on THAT one, she is being attacked for flying when she was 8 months pregnant. The reasoning is that she is lying about being pro life, because if she was, she wouldn’t be flying when she was in labor. From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of cshos Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:36 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Wonder what they do with all the witnesses at the conference in Texas when she went into labor and hopped on a plane back to Alaska to deliver. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I gather the reasoning behind that 'no one makes that comment when a man has a child with special needs runs for office..' is duly noted that thruout history it has been the women who stayed home caring for 'such' children. It was usually the woman' who stayed with the children PERIOD... I never had that luxury until the late 90's, as I always had to work and raise my kiddos single handed. I would not trade any of those times ever...To be honest I think those were the best of the worst!!! Ah, remember behind every successful man is a WOMAN (She can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan, and never ever let him forget he's a man) An olde ad for ENJOLI perfume during my day!!! Got carried away! smom "Where there is passion and a fire burning in your heart, there is hope..." "I cannot do everything, but still I can do something." Ms. Helen Keller Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCainTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CarlsonSent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Now that’s a stretch! Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Kathy Ratkiewicz Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:43 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Well, on THAT one, she is being attacked for flying when she was 8 months pregnant. The reasoning is that she is lying about being pro life, because if she was, she wouldn’t be flying when she was in labor. From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of cshos Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:36 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Wonder what they do with all the witnesses at the conference in Texas when she went into labor and hopped on a plane back to Alaska to deliver. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 HAAHAA! No pun intended! Really that was accidental comedy! Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Dinkins-Borkowski Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Now that’s a stretch! Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Kathy Ratkiewicz Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:43 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Well, on THAT one, she is being attacked for flying when she was 8 months pregnant. The reasoning is that she is lying about being pro life, because if she was, she wouldn’t be flying when she was in labor. From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of cshos Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:36 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Wonder what they do with all the witnesses at the conference in Texas when she went into labor and hopped on a plane back to Alaska to deliver. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Ratkiewicz To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: a Mesa To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.10/1638 - Release Date: 8/27/2008 7:06 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Yes- What do you think her IEP meeting will look like? Her position as Gov or as VP will only help her son. Dawn Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCainTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 9:59 PM Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be ‘keepers at home” means that they should not hold jobs outside the home. Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the therapies, medical concerns, etc. And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov Palin has a very good support system. I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CarlsonSent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain UGH.. your kiddin me. Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with that particular thing) Won't change my vote though : ) Steph [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 but....I dont think she is an advocate for the environment- I heard that she voted to NOT protect the polarbears and she is for drilling in her state. ...hmmm maybe polar bears are not so cute if you have to live with them. Dawn Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCainTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change now. Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CarlsonSent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers". But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 They seem like a nice family- I hope they are ready for all of the uglyness that will be thrown at them. Dawn Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCainTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:39 PM I mean, I heard that one… Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Dinkins-BorkowskiSent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:30 PMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain I HEAR THAT ONE! My husband says it does not explain the amnio that SHE had! Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE “Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt.” —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kathy RatkiewiczSent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:18 PMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain Rumors are wonderful things, aren’t they? There is one floating around now that Trig is not her son…that her daughter was pg, and Gov Palin is pretending that Trig is her son instead of her grandson!(I kid you not). People are really desperate….I hope she has a thick skin, because the smear campaigns might get pretty bad. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CarlsonSent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:13 PMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers". But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 What I read was that she didn't want polar bears listed as an endangered species, as she thought that was premature. And I agree with your statement - I think from here in Texas they're beautiful animals, but probably not so much if I lived with them. Shari but....I dont think she is an advocate for the environment- I heard that she voted to NOT protect the polarbears and she is for drilling in her state. ...hmmm maybe polar bears are not so cute if you have to live with them. Dawn Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change now. Dinkins-Borkowski; Nolan(5) nocf, Phoebe(3) Ds & cf Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE "Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him feel the bolt." —Orlando A. Battista From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PMTo: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.comSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. Steph [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women not holding civil office. Where are the bumper stickers?! a -- Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 (Please note my hard drive was corrupted last night and I have to post via the yahoo site, so please excuse if the format is weird!) I have no beef against or for the Polar Bears, but I am all for drilling. The majority of people in Alaska want it too. It is one of the things that got her elected as Governor. The drilling companies are allot more environmentally friendly than they used to be, and the jobs and revenue to the state would be a huge boost to their economy. Not to mention lessening our dependence on foreign oil. Heck, I'm all for the drilling to start up again in Texas (some have, but not enough). Texas was very prosperous during the oil boom. Like McCain, I am for the states having more control about what happens in their state; whether it be drilling for oil, or deciding where the education funds can be utilized. That way, the community decides what is best for their state. I will never understand how the federal government can make a blanket decision, and then expect the people in Rhode Island and the people in Texas to have the same outcome. McCain favors lifting a federal ban on off-shore drilling and leaving the decision up to individual states. While one federal decision is right for Rhode Island, it has been devastating for Texas. I feel our federal government has too many irons in the fire, which makes it ineffective on the things that it should have control of, like foreign policy, our troops, and our security. McCain supports a smaller federal government giving more rights to the states, while what I've read of Obama views, he wants to give the federal government much more control over everything from our individual healthcare choices to how a company in your state can distribute their employees and needs. I'm not saying that it's not important for there to be some governmental control on these issues. I just think you should put it into the hands of those who can control it best. > > > > > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain > > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange > > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM > > > > I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a > > greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change > > now. > > > > > > > > *** **Dinkins**-**Borkowski;** **Nolan**(5) nocf**,** **Phoebe**(3) > > Ds & cf*** > > > > *Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE <http://www.caringbridge.org/tx/phoebe>* > > > > * * > > > > " Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him > > feel the bolt. " > > > > —Orlando A. Battista ** > > > > > > > > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchangeyahoogroups (DOT) com] > > *On Behalf Of * Carlson > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM > > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com > > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > > > > > Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks > > like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! > > > > > > > > Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. > > Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing > > something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a > > rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running > > mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But > > looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. > > > > > > > > I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that > > one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a > > luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never > > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. > > > > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women > > not holding civil office. > > > > Where are the bumper stickers?! > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Oh, BTW Phoebebork= Dinkins-Borkowski > > > > > > From: Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@> > > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain > > > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange > > > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM > > > > > > I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of > a > > > greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will > probably change > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > *** **Dinkins**-**Borkowski;** **Nolan**(5) nocf**,** > **Phoebe**(3) > > > Ds & cf*** > > > > > > *Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE > <http://www.caringbridge.org/tx/phoebe>* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > " Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without > letting him > > > feel the bolt. " > > > > > > —Orlando A. Battista ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com > [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchangeyahoogroups (DOT) com] > > > *On Behalf Of * Carlson > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM > > > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee > whiz.. looks > > > like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad that people think that she should not just because her child > has an SN. > > > Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she > stop doing > > > something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when > I heard a > > > rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the > running > > > mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need > her. But > > > looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not > confirmed that > > > one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She > felt it was a > > > luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > > > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane > updates! I never > > > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. > > > > > > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs > about women > > > not holding civil office. > > > > > > Where are the bumper stickers?! > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Understand I am now a major McCain supporter ( now that Palin is one board I am DANCING to the polls as opposed to holding my nose) . But states rights have their " dark side" too. Normally I am all for it.. but in our recent IEP adventure, I found that the federal government left it up to the states on if it considers homeschooling a " private school". How does this fit with our kids?? well it is the final factor on if they are eligible for state ( public school) funded therapies. Yes.. My state of Ohio does not recognize home schools as a private school. Texas does. So.. While I am for smaller government I do wish that sometimes they would use a blanket. I think they have their bed made backward : ) Steph Original Message ----- From: phoebebork To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Palin/McCain (Please note my hard drive was corrupted last night and I have to post via the yahoo site, so please excuse if the format is weird!)I have no beef against or for the Polar Bears, but I am all for drilling. The majority of people in Alaska want it too. It is one of the things that got her elected as Governor. The drilling companies are allot more environmentally friendly than they used to be, and the jobs and revenue to the state would be a huge boost to their economy. Not to mention lessening our dependence on foreign oil. Heck, I'm all for the drilling to start up again in Texas (some have, but not enough). Texas was very prosperous during the oil boom. Like McCain, I am for the states having more control about what happens in their state; whether it be drilling for oil, or deciding where the education funds can be utilized. That way, the community decides what is best for their state.I will never understand how the federal government can make a blanket decision, and then expect the people in Rhode Island and the people in Texas to have the same outcome. McCain favors lifting a federal ban on off-shore drilling and leaving the decision up to individual states. While one federal decision is right for Rhode Island, it has been devastating for Texas. I feel our federal government has too many irons in the fire, which makes it ineffective on the things that it should have control of, like foreign policy, our troops, and our security. McCain supports a smaller federal government giving more rights to the states, while what I've read of Obama views, he wants to give the federal government much more control over everything from our individual healthcare choices to how a company in your state can distribute their employees and needs. I'm not saying that it's not important for there to be some governmental control on these issues. I just think you should put it into the hands of those who can control it best.> >> > > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain> > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange > > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM> >> > I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a> > greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change> > now.> >> >> >> > *** **Dinkins**-**Borkowski;** **Nolan**(5) nocf**,** **Phoebe**(3)> > Ds & cf***> >> > *Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE <http://www.caringbridge.org/tx/phoebe>*> >> > * *> >> > "Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him> > feel the bolt."> >> > —Orlando A. Battista **> >> >> >> > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchangeyahoogroups (DOT) com]> > *On Behalf Of * Carlson> >> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM> > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com> > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> >> >> > Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers". But still. Gee whiz.. looks> > like she cooks ! She fired her chef !> >> >> >> > Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN.> > Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing> > something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a> > rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running> > mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But> > looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady.> >> >> >> > I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that> > one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a> > luxury that Alaskans should not pay for.> >> >> >> > Steph> >> >> >> > * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never> > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it.> >> > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women> > not holding civil office.> >> > Where are the bumper stickers?!> >> > a> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Shari> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Good point! I can't relate to the school issue because I am in TX. I like the " bed made backwards " comparison. I am by no means an expert on governments, etc. but if one wanted to join or organize a group to change or modify that issue, it seems like it might be easier to change it on a state level rather than a federal level. I think that's how it's supposed to work anyway. > > > > > > From: Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@> > > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain > > > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange > > > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM > > > > > > I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of > a > > > greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will > probably change > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > *** **Dinkins**-**Borkowski;** **Nolan**(5) nocf**,** > **Phoebe**(3) > > > Ds & cf*** > > > > > > *Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE > <http://www.caringbridge.org/tx/phoebe>* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > " Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without > letting him > > > feel the bolt. " > > > > > > -Orlando A. Battista ** > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com > [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchangeyahoogroups (DOT) com] > > > *On Behalf Of * Carlson > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM > > > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee > whiz.. looks > > > like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad that people think that she should not just because her child > has an SN. > > > Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she > stop doing > > > something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when > I heard a > > > rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the > running > > > mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need > her. But > > > looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not > confirmed that > > > one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She > felt it was a > > > luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > > > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane > updates! I never > > > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. > > > > > > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs > about women > > > not holding civil office. > > > > > > Where are the bumper stickers?! > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 “Understand I am now a major McCain supporter ( now that Palin is one board I am DANCING to the polls as opposed to holding my nose)” . Ha..this is a pretty accurate description of me, too… We didn’t put Danny in preschool or get services from the schools..our insurance paid for private speech therapy. Do you have any universities in your area? Sometimes they have students who can provide therapy under the direction of their professors(Danny has sessions with a college student who is majoring in Communicative Disorders (speech therapist student) He has 1 hr sessions with the student(and her prof) for free. Students need hands on learning, so it is a good thing for them, too. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:31 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Palin/McCain Understand I am now a major McCain supporter ( now that Palin is one board I am DANCING to the polls as opposed to holding my nose) . But states rights have their " dark side " too. Normally I am all for it.. but in our recent IEP adventure, I found that the federal government left it up to the states on if it considers homeschooling a " private school " . How does this fit with our kids?? well it is the final factor on if they are eligible for state ( public school) funded therapies. Yes.. My state of Ohio does not recognize home schools as a private school. Texas does. So.. While I am for smaller government I do wish that sometimes they would use a blanket. I think they have their bed made backward : ) Steph Original Message ----- From: phoebebork To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Palin/McCain (Please note my hard drive was corrupted last night and I have to post via the yahoo site, so please excuse if the format is weird!) I have no beef against or for the Polar Bears, but I am all for drilling. The majority of people in Alaska want it too. It is one of the things that got her elected as Governor. The drilling companies are allot more environmentally friendly than they used to be, and the jobs and revenue to the state would be a huge boost to their economy. Not to mention lessening our dependence on foreign oil. Heck, I'm all for the drilling to start up again in Texas (some have, but not enough). Texas was very prosperous during the oil boom. Like McCain, I am for the states having more control about what happens in their state; whether it be drilling for oil, or deciding where the education funds can be utilized. That way, the community decides what is best for their state. I will never understand how the federal government can make a blanket decision, and then expect the people in Rhode Island and the people in Texas to have the same outcome. McCain favors lifting a federal ban on off-shore drilling and leaving the decision up to individual states. While one federal decision is right for Rhode Island, it has been devastating for Texas. I feel our federal government has too many irons in the fire, which makes it ineffective on the things that it should have control of, like foreign policy, our troops, and our security. McCain supports a smaller federal government giving more rights to the states, while what I've read of Obama views, he wants to give the federal government much more control over everything from our individual healthcare choices to how a company in your state can distribute their employees and needs. I'm not saying that it's not important for there to be some governmental control on these issues. I just think you should put it into the hands of those who can control it best. > > > > > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Palin/McCain > > To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange > > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM > > > > I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a > > greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change > > now. > > > > > > > > *** **Dinkins**-**Borkowski;** **Nolan**(5) nocf**,** **Phoebe**(3) > > Ds & cf*** > > > > *Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE <http://www.caringbridge.org/tx/phoebe>* > > > > * * > > > > " Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him > > feel the bolt. " > > > > —Orlando A. Battista ** > > > > > > > > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchangeyahoogroups (DOT) com] > > *On Behalf Of * Carlson > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM > > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com > > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > > > > > Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers " . But still. Gee whiz.. looks > > like she cooks ! She fired her chef ! > > > > > > > > Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN. > > Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing > > something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a > > rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running > > mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But > > looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady. > > > > > > > > I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that > > one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a > > luxury that Alaskans should not pay for. > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never > > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. > > > > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women > > not holding civil office. > > > > Where are the bumper stickers?! > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Several.. Good Idea ! We ended up having three options with our school district. Preschool, Speech therapy, or an hour a week with a Itinerant teacher who consulted with therapists at a location other than my Home. We took the later. Just to make them give us something. Cause originally we had been told it was preschool or NOTHING. I spent two weeks making phone calls, reading Idea, etc blah Blah. I am sure our insurance would do something.. and may look into it. But By gum I pay taxes : ) and none of my kids are in the public school system. I am already hoping for a Palin for Prez shirt : ) * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never> > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it.> >> > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women> > not holding civil office.> >> > Where are the bumper stickers?!> >> > a> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Shari> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I meant to say that apraxia is a neurological problem…just be sure that they don’t use codes with the word ‘developmental’, because insurance companies are weird about that one. And if you get turned down, appeal. From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Kathy Ratkiewicz Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:51 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Palin/McCain Our insurance covered speech therapy when the doctor wrote a prescription for it..BE CAREFUL, though…some insurances try to get out of paying by saying that they won’t pay for ‘habilitative’ therapy …so make sure that your doctor doesn’t use a diagnosis of Down Syndrome(developmental diagnosis) to request speech therapy…use a physical diagnosis “apraxia” (or some other physical diagnosis..”Down syndrome” is *not* the cause of speech problems..low muscle tone, problems with motor planning, etc are the problems.. if you put Ds as the diagnosis and reason for the child needing speech therapy, many insurance companies will turn you down because they will not pay for therapy for ‘developmental diagnoses’ . So you have to be careful with the codes the doc uses when ordering the therapy. More details here: http://www.speechville.com/diagnosis-destinations/apraxia/insurance.html Here is another link for ways to fund speech therapy: http://www.speechville.com/speech-therapy/associations-funding.html From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Carlson Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:33 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Palin/McCain Several.. Good Idea ! We ended up having three options with our school district. Preschool, Speech therapy, or an hour a week with a Itinerant teacher who consulted with therapists at a location other than my Home. We took the later. Just to make them give us something. Cause originally we had been told it was preschool or NOTHING. I spent two weeks making phone calls, reading Idea, etc blah Blah. I am sure our insurance would do something.. and may look into it. But By gum I pay taxes : ) and none of my kids are in the public school system. I am already hoping for a Palin for Prez shirt : ) * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain > > > > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never > > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it. > > > > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women > > not holding civil office. > > > > Where are the bumper stickers?! > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 yes- I agree- something else that is backwards in Ohio is that our state autism scholarship will pay for up to 20,000 a year for a homeschooled child who has autism to have therapy and yet they will not give other homeschooled children anything because they are not a school. Dawn Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Palin/McCainTo: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 5:30 PM Understand I am now a major McCain supporter ( now that Palin is one board I am DANCING to the polls as opposed to holding my nose) . But states rights have their " dark side" too. Normally I am all for it.. but in our recent IEP adventure, I found that the federal government left it up to the states on if it considers homeschooling a " private school". How does this fit with our kids?? well it is the final factor on if they are eligible for state ( public school) funded therapies. Yes.. My state of Ohio does not recognize home schools as a private school. Texas does. So.. While I am for smaller government I do wish that sometimes they would use a blanket. I think they have their bed made backward : ) Steph Original Message ----- From: phoebebork To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Re: Palin/McCain (Please note my hard drive was corrupted last night and I have to post via the yahoo site, so please excuse if the format is weird!)I have no beef against or for the Polar Bears, but I am all for drilling. The majority of people in Alaska want it too. It is one of the things that got her elected as Governor. The drilling companies are allot more environmentally friendly than they used to be, and the jobs and revenue to the state would be a huge boost to their economy. Not to mention lessening our dependence on foreign oil. Heck, I'm all for the drilling to start up again in Texas (some have, but not enough). Texas was very prosperous during the oil boom. Like McCain, I am for the states having more control about what happens in their state; whether it be drilling for oil, or deciding where the education funds can be utilized. That way, the community decides what is best for their state.I will never understand how the federal government can make a blanket decision, and then expect the people in Rhode Island and the people in Texas to have the same outcome. McCain favors lifting a federal ban on off-shore drilling and leaving the decision up to individual states. While one federal decision is right for Rhode Island, it has been devastating for Texas. I feel our federal government has too many irons in the fire, which makes it ineffective on the things that it should have control of, like foreign policy, our troops, and our security. McCain supports a smaller federal government giving more rights to the states, while what I've read of Obama views, he wants to give the federal government much more control over everything from our individual healthcare choices to how a company in your state can distribute their employees and needs. I'm not saying that it's not important for there to be some governmental control on these issues. I just think you should put it into the hands of those who can control it best.> >> > > > Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> > To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:26 PM> >> > I also heard she gave up her corporate jet and limo in favor of a> > greener option. She drives a VW jetta. Of course that will probably change> > now.> >> >> >> > *** **Dinkins**- **Borkowski; ** **Nolan**(5) nocf**,** **Phoebe**(3)> > Ds & cf***> >> > *Phoebe Updates CLICK HERE <http://www.caringbr idge.org/ tx/phoebe>*> >> > * *> >> > "Tact is the ability to make a person see lightning without letting him> > feel the bolt."> >> > —Orlando A. Battista **> >> >> >> > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com]> > *On Behalf Of * Carlson> >> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:13 PM> > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com> > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> >> >> > Ok.. I am following you about the " keepers". But still. Gee whiz.. looks> > like she cooks ! She fired her chef !> >> >> >> > Sad that people think that she should not just because her child has an SN.> > Seriously.. reflects the need for more inclusion. Why should she stop doing> > something just because her son has DS? I admit though that when I heard a> > rumor ( maybe on this list ) MONTHS ago..that she might be the running> > mate.. I thought.. NAH.. she will decline cause her son will need her. But> > looks like she takes him to work etc.. What a awesome lady.> >> >> >> > I heard a rumor too the she home schools. But I have not confirmed that> > one. When she fired her chef though.. that made the news. She felt it was a> > luxury that Alaskans should not pay for.> >> >> >> > Steph> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> >> > *From:* Kathy Ratkiewicz <Kathy_R@... >> >> > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com<DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com>> >> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:59 PM> >> > *Subject:* RE: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> >> >> > Yes, some people think that the verse that says women should be 'keepers at> > home" means that they should not hold jobs outside the home.> >> > Women who do not claim to be Christian have also commented that they do not> > think that the mother of a child with special needs should run for office> > because they themselves were very busy with their child due to the> > therapies, medical concerns, etc.> >> > And I can understand that to a point, but to be fair, it does look like Gov> > Palin has a very good support system.> >> > I think that it is interesting that no one makes that comment when a man> > who has a child w/special needs runs for office;-)> >> > KathyR> >> > *From:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com]> > *On Behalf Of * Carlson> >> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:49 AM> > *To:* DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com> > *Subject:* Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> > UGH.. your kiddin me.> >> > Is that in the Bible? ( not trying to debate.. I just am not familiar with> > that particular thing)> >> > Won't change my vote though : )> >> > Steph> >> > * [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Palin/McCain> >> > I was so excited yesterday I forgot to check the hurricane updates! I never> > saw the Saddleback conversation, will have to look for it.> >> > What saddens me is the controversy going around Christian BBs about women> > not holding civil office.> >> > Where are the bumper stickers?!> >> > a> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Shari> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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