Re: Question for group

December 3, 2010

Hello - I too am using MMS to fight CLL and my story is almost identical to Malcom's. I would really appreciate hearing any thoughts on why this has happened. Should MMS treatment continue?

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Malcolm <malcolm.latour@...> wrote:

Greetings,

I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements.

I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening.

Any thoughts?

Malcolm

-- VickiI was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. -- Boone

December 3, 2010

The protocol for life threatening conditions is now 2000--check Jim Humbles

revised website. Protocol 2000 includes taking MMS2 capsules every two hours

(on the half hour) and MMS1 every hour on the hour for ten hours every day until

the condition is cleared.

--- malcolm.latour@... wrote:

From: " Malcolm " <malcolm.latour@...>

Subject: [ ] Question for group

Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:20:29 -0000

Greetings,

I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL

chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically

worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill

protocol supplements.

I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry

is rapidly worsening.

Any thoughts?

Malcolm

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December 3, 2010

Better solutions for Leukemia would be taking Lugol's iodine and food grade

hydrogen peroxide. Also very helpful is to go to an alkaline diet and take

several antifungals, such as Graviola, Pau d'Arco, Tumeric, and Gingko.

www.alternative-cancer-cures.com

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat

CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

>

> CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically

worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

>

> I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill

protocol supplements.

>

> I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood

chemistry is rapidly worsening.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Malcolm

>

December 3, 2010

Have you looked in the gb4000 (rife machine) I used MMS and ozone and I believe it made my situation worse...however others would disagree that was the cause. But when your dealing with ca just b/c one thing worked for one person doesn't mean it will work for us. So my motto is if it's not working move on! Also I would like to talk to all the people that mms1 and 2 has helped for cancer...where are they...? Hope this helps! "and the day came when the risk it took to remain in a tight blossom was more painful than the risk it took to bloom..." Anais NinFrom: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Question for group Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 8:51 AM

Better solutions for Leukemia would be taking Lugol's iodine and food grade hydrogen peroxide. Also very helpful is to go to an alkaline diet and take several antifungals, such as Graviola, Pau d'Arco, Tumeric, and Gingko.

www.alternative-cancer-cures.com

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

>

> CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

>

> I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements.

>

> I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Malcolm

>

December 4, 2010

vegeterians think they are right.But vegetables do NOT have complex aminoes

pluss so hard for the body to remade for avail to the body.

try buy catle liver ,make frizing and put in capsules.

daytime use medical north magnets on your kidney for 20 minutes.

actually your sicness is:bacterias changed your blood iron from NORT pole to

South pole ,what bacterias feed on.

if you remade north pole again with this simple trick your sicness

dissapearing according Dr Hulda clark.net her books are everywhere GYB

>

> From: " Malcolm " <malcolm.latour@...>

>

> Subject: [ ] Question for group

> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:20:29 -0000

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat

CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

>

> CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically

worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

>

> I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill

protocol supplements.

>

> I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood

chemistry is rapidly worsening.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Malcolm

>

> ------------------------------------

>

December 4, 2010

Hello Malcolm,

Chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide are both oxidizers. Chlorine dioxide has

been studied in humans at low concentrations, but chlorous acid has not.

At higher concentrations, chlorine dioxide damages blood cells.

A 12 week study was done using chlorine dioxide in water at a concentration of 5

PPM. Please note that MMS forms chlorous acid that has chlorine dioxide in it,

but ingesting chlorous acid has not been studied.

The concentration used in the study was 5 PPM. The concentration of a 3 drop

dose of MMS is about 190 PPM available chlorine dioxide. As you can see, a 3

drop dose has a much higher concentration than the 5 PPM that was used in the

study. Since most people don't bother to do blood tests while taking MMS, there

is little information on this.

It is very possible that you are damaging your blood cells.

At 5 PPM no adverse effects were observed over the 12 week period of the test.

If you put your 3 drop dose of MMS in 5 liters of water and drank that, you

would be very close to the 5 PPM concentration used in the study.

I would suggest stopping MMS and taking a few days of antioxidants to clear all

of the chlorite out of your body. Chlorite has a half life of a little over 40

hours, so it will take awhile to get it out of your body. Then have your blood

tested again and see if that made a difference.

Tom

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat

CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

>

> CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically

worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

>

> I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill

protocol supplements.

>

> I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood

chemistry is rapidly worsening.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Malcolm

>

December 4, 2010

again...Your blood already sick....you need to reading books Dr Hulda

,,have 5 books go to a bookstore take the last book from there and read

what apply to you!!!i gess 3 days every 2 hours in a capsule 1 drops will enouf

with drink before 1 glass or more water and after drink water also,but if you

took MMS1 as you says NO MORE right now.my doughter healing up by MMS1 from

breat cancer but needed to stop for now.So much yeast died in her is still

coming outh.She drinket for the alkalize slogan.her Ph was 8.2/not from the MMS1

but needed to stop now/taket for 3 weeks/

if You think this :the uncurable disese in Africa cured by 1 dose MMS1 as we

read on Jim Humble book -so why we need to take so much amount?? Ok so much

yeast need to kill as groving fast.But Jim Humble stating Need to use Minerals

that acting as anti-oxidants after MMS1 and MMS2.MMS2 get all my dark brown

towels burned by MMS2 white points showing up,as i used in the bathroom.I

drinket 2 time to try.but think of that how strong it is!!!!if i become sick I

will use one time only.Good for cleaning everything doe.gyb

>

> Hello Malcolm,

>

> Chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide are both oxidizers. Chlorine dioxide has

been studied in humans at low concentrations, but chlorous acid has not.

>

> At higher concentrations, chlorine dioxide damages blood cells.

>

> A 12 week study was done using chlorine dioxide in water at a concentration of

5 PPM. Please note that MMS forms chlorous acid that has chlorine dioxide in

it, but ingesting chlorous acid has not been studied.

>

> The concentration used in the study was 5 PPM. The concentration of a 3 drop

dose of MMS is about 190 PPM available chlorine dioxide. As you can see, a 3

drop dose has a much higher concentration than the 5 PPM that was used in the

study. Since most people don't bother to do blood tests while taking MMS, there

is little information on this.

>

> It is very possible that you are damaging your blood cells.

>

> At 5 PPM no adverse effects were observed over the 12 week period of the test.

If you put your 3 drop dose of MMS in 5 liters of water and drank that, you

would be very close to the 5 PPM concentration used in the study.

>

> I would suggest stopping MMS and taking a few days of antioxidants to clear

all of the chlorite out of your body. Chlorite has a half life of a little over

40 hours, so it will take awhile to get it out of your body. Then have your

blood tested again and see if that made a difference.

>

> Tom

>

> --- In , " Malcolm " <malcolm.latour@>

wrote:

> >

> > Greetings,

> >

> > I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat

CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

> >

> > CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown

dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment.

> >

> > I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill

protocol supplements.

> >

> > I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood

chemistry is rapidly worsening.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Malcolm

> >

>

May 12, 2012

Found post from rose years ago for st johns wort. However it is not the silver

bullet in her post, used for mood elevation. Put st johns wort in search above

messages, perhaps I missed it:)

> >

> > Yes, my symptoms are exactly the same. Each morning at about 6 am things

get better; I've noted that for some time that the sensations have a timing. IF

these are mites, they are quorum sensing and more active late afternoon to early

morning. IF they are not mites, I don't know why the activity would be so much

like the activity from mites. Would that just be a coincidence?

> >

> > At the beginning of this 2 years ago I could actually hear a humming on my

body, but can't anymore.

> >

> > Question for Group

> >

> > Would really appreciate hearing from you guys regarding whether or not your

symptoms worsen in the evening.

> >

> > Mine get worse after sunset- but don't go into full gear until approximately

1am, and continue until sunrise (approximately 6am), and then taper off.

> >

> > Also, as crazy as this sounds, the biting and itching get worse after

showering. This would support the people who recommend the use of oils to slow

the bugs down.

> >

> > I've tried using oils on my body, but haven't found any relief from doing

so.

> >

> > D.

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

May 13, 2012

I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I

wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as

most of my early activity was on my face.

Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.

Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.

For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin

mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months,

then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet

about the same time.

It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my

intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal

membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my

intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas,

carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...

May 13, 2012

Interesting, , That proves it is something internal. Love and light,s From: sidepull5150 <sidepull5150@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Question for Group

I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face.

Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.

Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.

For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time.

It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...

May 13, 2012

I have read many of us reporting this, myself included. My theory it is

symptomatic of demodex mites. The mite not being the real cause of the entire

infection infestation, but a systemic cause of immunity breakdown. Not

recommending this product, just great info. My face mites cleared with liquid

lye soap, added tea tree oil, blend. Be careful not to much tea tree oil, but

strong enough to kill the parasite. Also home made flower of sulfur lotion,

cream.

http://www.wholespectrum.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=WS & Ca\

tegory_Code=DEMODEXIN

>

> I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I

wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as

most of my early activity was on my face.

>

> Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.

>

> Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.

>

> For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin

mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months,

then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet

about the same time.

>

> It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in

my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal

membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my

intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas,

carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...

>

May 13, 2012

Recipe for sulfur cream with this link, you could substitute the cocoa butter

for anything of your choice. If really hurting money wise make liquid lye

lotion, blend olive oil, very little, with flower sulfur, then blend into liquid

lye.

http://www.pennherb.com/flowers-of-sulphur-powder-16oz-405p16?id=i6uw8Mms

> >

> > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed.

I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down

as most of my early activity was on my face.

> >

> > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.

> >

> > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.

> >

> > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin

mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months,

then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet

about the same time.

> >

> > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in

my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal

membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my

intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas,

carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...

> >

>

May 13, 2012

LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and

plant spray as well )

To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good

way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion

just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use

either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities

removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of

the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you

may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition

further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and

water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just

mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your

lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be

sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right

back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a

small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also

been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray

to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants.

> > >

> > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed.

I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down

as most of my early activity was on my face.

> > >

> > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.

> > >

> > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.

> > >

> > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin

mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months,

then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet

about the same time.

> > >

> > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria

in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal

membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my

intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas,

carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...

> > >

> >

>

May 14, 2012

Marie,Can you give me a rundown again of what you used to get rid of springtails on your property and with your animals? My former husband most likely has springtails; he is a dog loverand lives on a big property on the border of open space where there are lots of wild animals, even cougars spotted once in a while. Mainly deer and that sort of thing. I think he is going to have to treat any water sources outside, I think he has a pool that is not taken care of either. I've only been there once, but he is a single guy (no one can get along with him), living by himself. He told our son, , age 42, that he has scabies. I seriously doubt it... more likely he has springtails. I just want to get the information to him. We have remained friendly for many years.Thanks once again!!! From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:55:24 AMSubject: Re: Question for GroupI have read many of us reporting this, myself included. My theory it is symptomatic of demodex mites. The mite not being the real cause of the entire infection infestation, but a systemic cause of immunity breakdown. Not recommending this product, just great info. My face mites cleared with liquid lye soap, added tea tree oil, blend. Be careful not to much tea tree oil, but strong enough to kill the parasite. Also home made flower of sulfur lotion, cream.http://www.wholespectrum.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=WS & Category_Code=DEMODEXIN--- In bird mites , "sidepull5150" <sidepull5150@...> wrote:>> I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face.> > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.> > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.> > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time.> > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...> > >------------------------------------

May 14, 2012

,I've heard many people on another site say the diet is a factor with the internal infestation. There are people who advocate specific diets (The King Diet), and I find the King diet very similar to a candida diet and I tried it for a while.Aandraya got rid of all symptoms of creeping and crawling, biting, etc., and she took antibiotics, but she also took many anti-fungals, strong ones. For a while she did the Paleo Diet, but not sure if she still does that. In that diet certain foods are cut out. With Marie, Healinghope, she got rid of all symptoms too and used MMS and other things... MMS is notorously good for killing off fungus. Probably not much better out there than MMS for killing certain pathogens, especially fungus.From: "sidepull5150" <sidepull5150@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:23:18 AMSubject: Re: Question for GroupI'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face.Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time.It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...------------------------------------

May 14, 2012

the article from bug spray is a great guideline. I have found treat whole

yard as a nest. Granules every month while infested on soil, then bi monthly.

His pool needs treated, I would use calcium hypochlorite, which is mms2 . Bathe

with mms1, use lye soap hair and body. While infested add sulfur. I alternate

with tea tree soap. Cedarcide is the best for pets. I think cedarcide is a bit

overboard with the one spot theory? I continue to use one spot for prevention,

including fleas, ticks, ect. Here is a copy paste from earlier post.

I have found treating yourself important, and natural as possible. For wash I

use fels naptha it will kill fungus and mites. For body and hair I use liquid

lye soap, when infested i would add flower of sulfur to liquid lye, especially

for hair. Hint use small amount of olive oil to mix the flower of sulfur then

add and blend to liquid lye. I have even left the liquid lye on my hair for bed.

Soak dry hair with liquid lye and let sit. Its just soap it will not hurt you.

Store bought soap will hurt you! I would use peppermint, tea tree, or plain

until healed. If mixing flower of sulfur use plain. After good scrub with lye,

and rinse. Soak in MMS bathes. Treat drains too.

I also take flower of sulfur internally and MSM, this is very different from

MMS. Read and study, then go to war:)

Also treat drains weekly with white distilled vinegar, or MMS solution.