Colloidal Silver

November 15, 2004

Many, many times, colloidal silver has been recommended tro me for this and

that.

I havenot taken it becasue it always lists these " trace minerals " that are

toxic. Do I have the right idea here?

Is colloidal silver bad for a mercury toxic person despite the successes

that others report with it?

I have wanted to know this FOR A L O N G TIME.

~Inga

>

November 16, 2004

Do not ever use colloidal silver, no matter what.

Andy . .. . . . . . .

> Many, many times, colloidal silver has been recommended tro me for this and

> that.

> I havenot taken it becasue it always lists these " trace minerals " that are

> toxic. Do I have the right idea here?

> Is colloidal silver bad for a mercury toxic person despite the successes

> that others report with it?

Yup.

> I have wanted to know this FOR A L O N G TIME.

>

> ~Inga

> >

January 7, 2005

Yes we used it recently. Absoloutely fantastic for bacterial problems.

Took about ten days to get rid of problem but a godsend.

January 7, 2005

> Yes we used it recently. Absoloutely fantastic for bacterial

problems.

> Took about ten days to get rid of problem but a godsend.

>

January 7, 2005

I sent you a link off-list with an excellent one....if you already

received it, disregard this. :-)

On Jan 7, 2005, at 12:46 PM, rheaton_stormcast wrote:

> What product did you use? We recently aquired a " batch " .. a small

> batch of 10ppm ionic silver (which I hear isnt a true collaid and

> doesnt pass as well).

>

January 7, 2005

I used Source Naturals colloidal silver several years ago for my

son's bacteria problem and worked brilliantly. He had this bacteria

problem for several years before:

1. we could figure out what the problem was, and

2. how to get rid of it

I did 10 days of the throat spray giving 1 spray in the morning and 1

at night (which is 1/2 the adult dose if I remember right). I got it

in the local natural food store and that was 3 years ago. About $10-

$12.

This was after 5 months of an agressive amount of Peptizyde (9

capsules a day) and Culturelle (3 capsules a day of the 20 billion

CFU strength). While both of those items may a significant impact on

the bacteria, it never really went away. The 10 days of the colloidal

silver hammered it off completely. It might have taken more than 1

round of the silver if we hadn't used the enzymes and probiotics for

so long first.

The gray thing *might* happen if you use it regularly for a long long

time (like years). That was my assessment from reading. Some people

may not want to do this if they have a significant metal detox

problem. But I really don't know all the details of using colloidal

silver in those circumstances.

.

January 7, 2005

We use it and love it and highly recommend it.

From what I understand the turning blue issue (called argyria) has to do

with products that are not properly purified not the " good ones " and even

with the " wrong " ones you would have to take quarts and quarts at a time

before that happened.

I find it incredibly effective.

I work with a nutritionist who swears by the brand " Sovereign Silver " (what

we use) and says that before this one came along she had many more

hesitations about recommending it for extended periods or for people with

metal detox issues. She does muscle testing and helped me to figure out the

right dose. I wish I could tell you more about " why " she thinks this brand

is superior (I'll get more info next time I see her) - but I can tell you

she has never yet steered me wrong - and she completely understands the

sensitive nature of the population we are talking about.

Probably the biggest deterrent to it doing its job 100% in our house is that

I always put it in my daughter's drink and it would be better taken straight

on an empty stomach. It doesn't have an awful taste, but it does taste

" somewhat " if not mixed with water - sort of like, um, silver tarnish!

Josie

Colloidal Silver

This " miracle " stuff has been used and sworn by for years and years.

Outside of turning one blueish gray if they take too much, it doesnt

seem to have many other negative side-effects (non-toxic).

Has anyone used this stuff? Used it with enzymes?

Good?

Bad?

_____

January 7, 2005

I've used it, sparingly, too, but haven't administered to DD.

It's a good thing to research product quality from objective sources. I found a

spray that

met the criteria and has very minimal taste. Whole Foods carries it.

FWIW, Rosemary's story is on her webpage. She didn't take excessive amounts,

just as

prescribed for sinus infection.

http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

YMMV,

RE: Colloidal Silver

We use it and love it and highly recommend it.

From what I understand the turning blue issue (called argyria) has to do

with products that are not properly purified not the " good ones " and even

with the " wrong " ones you would have to take quarts and quarts at a time

before that happened.

I find it incredibly effective.

Josie

January 7, 2005

Thanks for the input everyone!

There seems to be several " mixtures " . The one that seems to be the

most generic (and common) is the ionic silver... that which is make

with 3 9V batts. and silver (.999 pure - not sterling) .. strands.

This type seems to be the most undesired. The reasoning has to do

with the type of silver particle that is formed. Well, actually, the

ionic silver does not contain silver particles.. and that is what

makes the difference.

In short, ionic silver is silver that is minus the.. um (dont hold

me to this) positive charge. Because of this, it bond quickly to any

choride in your body. Once silver choride is formed, it does not

pass out of the body (or does so at such a slow rate that it

accumulates over time) Silver cloride bonds to the tissues and does

not chelate... thuis resulting in an over-time accumulation and

argyria.

However, those with certain mineral deficiencies in their system are

far more susceptible to argyria.

As for Miss. Grey - This fella has an intersting take on it.

Actually, he and Rosemary have been at it for some time.

Link to rebuttel:

http://www.silverprotects.com/media/colloidal_silver_summer2001.pdf

A link to his site: http://www.silverprotects.com/

> I've used it, sparingly, too, but haven't administered to DD.

>

> It's a good thing to research product quality from objective

sources. I found a spray that

> met the criteria and has very minimal taste. Whole Foods carries

it.

>

> FWIW, Rosemary's story is on her webpage. She didn't take

excessive amounts, just as

> prescribed for sinus infection.

>

> http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

>

> YMMV,

>

> RE: Colloidal Silver

>

> We use it and love it and highly recommend it.

>

> From what I understand the turning blue issue (called argyria)

has to do

> with products that are not properly purified not the " good ones "

and even

> with the " wrong " ones you would have to take quarts and quarts

at a time

> before that happened.

>

> I find it incredibly effective.

>

> Josie

>

April 25, 2005

For those looking for Silver...

Here's a great silver products that is 100% ionic (better than colloidal),

100ppm!, has a new patent-pending delivery system, and is very affordable.

Check it out.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/colloidal_silver100.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/colloidal_silver100.htm)

Chad

ph:951-303-3471

fax:603-994-1746

April 25, 2005

In a message dated 4/25/2005 9:49:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,

chadnnina@... writes:

For those looking for Silver...

Here's a great silver products that is 100% ionic (better than colloidal),

100ppm!, has a new patent-pending delivery system, and is very affordable.

Check it out.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/colloidal_silver100.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/colloidal_silver100.htm)

Chad

ph:951-303-3471

fax:603-994-1746

This message is for the moderators of this group. I have checked out this

website, and this guy is on the list just promoting his own website and

products. Is this commercialism allowed on this list?

Esther

April 25, 2005

Make your own Colloidal silver, it is much, much cheaper, this is

the machine I use to make mine:

http://www.wishgranted.com

You do not need 100ppm, 3-5ppm does the job.

> For those looking for Silver...

>

> Here's a great silver products that is 100% ionic (better than

colloidal),

> 100ppm!, has a new patent-pending delivery system, and is very

affordable.

>

> Check it out.

>

> _http://www.frequencyrising.com/colloidal_silver100.htm_

> (http://www.frequencyrising.com/colloidal_silver100.htm)

>

> Chad

>

> ph:951-303-3471

> fax:603-994-1746

>

April 25, 2005

If you use the pure water specified, and the fish tank pump as suggested, you

should get repeatable results with long time operation. The low voltage and

bubbles keep the particles as small as possible with a simple approach.

In my experience, the only way you see " wisps " of silver is when the current is

too high, and you are getting chunks of silver ripped off, making much larger

particles than you really want. This indicates that the water is impure,

possibly due to the ill-advised addition of some kind of salt to speed it up.

The smaller the particles, the larger the active surface area for a given amount

of silver in the water. See the comparison table at

http://silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#CompTable.

Here is what Key has to say:

" What does " particle surface area " mean?

Particle surface area is the total surface area in square centimeters (cm2) of

all the particles in one milli-liter(mL) of colloid. The surface area is a

calculated value based on the concentration of particles (ppm) and the mean

diameter of the particles. The calculation assumes the particles are spherical.

Particle surface area is inversely proportional to particle size, which means

for a constant concentration of particles, the surface area increases as the

particle size decreases. In the chemical world, reactivity increases with

increasing surface area. Therefore, the effectiveness of colloidal solutions

increases with decreasing particle size as the particle surface area increases.

For this reason, particle surface area serves as a metric for comparing

different colloidal solutions. In metal colloids the increase in reactivity that

derives from the increased particle surface area translates directly to

effectiveness of the colloid. Surface area is expressed in square centimeters

(cm2) per milli-liter (mL) of colloidal solution, and is written as (cm2/mL).

For example, the particle surface area of 1 ppm of particles having a mean

diameter of 10 nm is 0.423 cm2/mL, while 1 ppm of 1 nm diameter particles has a

particle surface area of 4.229 cm2/mL, which is ten times the surface area of

the 10 nm particles. For more details on the relationship of particle surface

area as a function of concentration and particle size, see the Colloid Surface

Area table. For more discussion see Comparing Colloidal Silver Products. >>Top

of page

Why is " particle surface area " important?

Particle surface area is what determines a colloids ability to react with its

environment. Reactivity increases with increasing surface area. Particle surface

area can be determined by measuring the physical properties of a colloid.

Because it is comprised of two important physical properties, namely, particle

size and particle concentration, it serves as good metric for comparing

colloids. Since it can be expressed as a single number, particle surface area

can be considered a figure of merit for the effectiveness of a colloid. In this

context, effectiveness is defined as the ability of the colloid to react with

its environment. The higher the surface area, the more reactive the colloid,

hence the more effective it is in reacting with its environment. For a

comparison of commercial products based on particle surface area see the

Comparison Table. >>Top of page

Is a high particle surface area silver colloid better at killing pathogens?

Theory would lead us to believe that maximizing the surface area of metallic

silver in contact with pathogens would increase the colloids ability to kill

such pathogens. Silver colloids are available with widely varying amounts of

particle surface area. Because this is considered an important metric for

comparison, the particle surface area is reported in the Commercial Product

Reports section of this site. Generally, products that contain a high percentage

of silver in the form of silver ions will have a very low particle surface area,

while products that have a high percentage of silver in the form of particles

will have a higher particle surface area. The highest particle surface area will

be found in products having the highest particle concentration and the smallest

sized particles. For more details on particle surface area see: About Particle

Size "

I respect Key as one of the best informed and brilliant men in the

colloidal mineral field today. Kodak Corporation is begging him to show them how

to make the " mesoparticles " of silver in his " MesoSilver. " Kodak has spent tens

of millions of dollars in an attempt to achieve what does every day.

has one of the best equipped colloid labs in the US.

Blessings!

Arthur

www.bestzapper.com

Re: Re: Candida, Leaky Gut, FMS/CFIDS

>> >>

>> >>gse is wonderful for spraying on any carpets before vacuuming,,also on

>> >>all bedding, pillows and upholstery, a lot of which are full of dust

>> >>mites and other things we can do without.....ariella

>> >>

>> >>On Apr 20, 2005, at 4:16 PM, tempo33x wrote:

>> >>

>> >>>Colloidal silver works too.

>> >>>

>> >>>-- In Dr , dmackey00@c... wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>>Only to the extent that coconut oil can disenfect. I use hydrogen

>> >>>>

>> >>>peroxide to disinfect things. If I have to worry about it bleaching

>> >>>out a surface, then I use a few drops of GSE mixed with water in a

>> >>>spray bottle.

>> >>>

>> >>>>Diane

>> >>>>-------------- Original message --------------

>> >>>>

>> >

May 6, 2005

Dear :

My family and I have used colloidal silver for several

years. It is a very effective defense for viral and

bacterial problems. I have stopped an oncoming cold,

sore throat, or Flu several times by gargling with

colloidal silver. It works well if you can catch the

cold before it gets entrenched.

We have found CS to be good for a number of health

problems and we use it as our first line of defense,

instead of antibiotics.

Now, to be sure, we use a very high quality of CS,

which we make with a $200 colloidal silver generator.

It generates really tiny particles of silver - 99.999%

pure silver. Be aware that there are some lower

quality CS products on the market that are not that

great, that have larger particles and may not work as

well. A Texas company sells the CS generators. Ours

is the 16 oz. model.

So, we can make a pint or two of CS any time we need

it, which bets paying $20 for a 4 oz bottle in the

store.

Email me seperately if you have more Qs.

JS

--- elizabeth <watsons97@...> wrote:

> Is colloidal silver a good supplement for defense

> against viral, fungal

> and bacterial problems? Are there any problems with

> it's use?

>

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May 6, 2005

There are never any circumstances where someone susceptible to heavy

metal problems, or who has them already, should use colloidal silver.

Just like merthiolate (another name for thimerosal), colloidal silver

IS great at killing bacteria and viruses since it is a heavy metal

toxin that is incompatible with all life.

I have certainly run across silver poisoned people, some of whom got it

from using colloidal silver. One silver + mercury case is in fact

discussed in my hair test book ( see www.noamalgam.com/

hairtestbook.html ) on page 220.

Andy

> > Is colloidal silver a good supplement for defense

> > against viral, fungal

> > and bacterial problems? Are there any problems with

> > it's use?

May 7, 2005

> Is colloidal silver a good supplement for defense against viral, fungal

> and bacterial problems? Are there any problems with it's use?

I use olive leaf extract for viruses and bacteria issues. GSE for yeast.

I would not recommend colloidal silver for someone who tends to retain

metals, except perhaps for a really bad case of bacteria that would

not go away despite many other interventions.

Dana

October 12, 2005

>>>>Has anyone used colloidal silver or have any info on it?

I used Source Naturals colloidal silver throat spray with my younger

son for his terrible bacteria problem with GREAT results. It was cheap

and effective after dealing with the problem for years. I used it for

10 days as any antibiotic is to be used.

My understanding of the agryria problem is it may occur if you use the

silver regularly for years and years (which I am not comfortable doing

with any antibiotic).

.

October 14, 2005

>

> Has anyone used colloidal silver or have any info on it?

This can be good for bacteria problems. I use olive leaf extract for

bacteria, so you can try that and see if you like the results without

the risk of argyria.

> just trying to find something to keep the yeast in check.

I don't know that silver helps with yeast? You might try something

else for the yeast

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

October 29, 2005

sorry, but could some tell and explain 'cs'?

--- surffcity <bobcat000@...> wrote:

> Hello everyone. I took CS for over a year and

> noticed no

> difference at all. I made my own and bought it,

> from time to time.

>

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Nevermind...if I had just read the next message, I

would have known.what cs is....

--- wensu baki <wensubar@...> wrote:

> sorry, but could some tell and explain 'cs'?

>

> --- surffcity <bobcat000@...> wrote:

>

> > Hello everyone. I took CS for over a year and

> > noticed no

> > difference at all. I made my own and bought it,

> > from time to time.

> >

>

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March 13, 2006

In a message dated 13/03/2006 22:23:36 GMT Standard Time, shel4336@...

writes:

think the main concern is that silver is a metal. And, therefore

could be a problem for metal toxic kids. However, I have used it for

my sons bacteria overgrowth and it works awesome. He never had a poor

reaction to colloidal silver and it is the only thing that wiped out

his bacteria. We never have given it for more than 10 days at a time

and I've only had to use it a couple of times.

>>>Ditto ditto ditto

Mandi in UK

March 13, 2006

You shouldn't use it because silver is a heavy metal, and it would be kinda

crazy to give your metal-toxic child any heavy metals intentionally. Apparently,

the reason it " works " is because it kills off everything. This stuff is bad

news; poison, especially for our kids.

-------------- Original message --------------

From: <bizzymama@...>

Hi all, I am trying to remember why I decided against using colloidal

silver.

Someone has suggested that I try it, and all I can remember is that I think

Andy recommended against it, but I don't remember why..does anyone know why

we shouldn't use?

It is one of those 'things' that sound REALLY good.

Thanks,

Carol

=======================================================

March 13, 2006

I think the main concern is that silver is a metal. And, therefore

could be a problem for metal toxic kids. However, I have used it for

my sons bacteria overgrowth and it works awesome. He never had a poor

reaction to colloidal silver and it is the only thing that wiped out

his bacteria. We never have given it for more than 10 days at a time

and I've only had to use it a couple of times.

Hope that helps!

>

> Hi all, I am trying to remember why I decided against using

colloidal

> silver.

> Someone has suggested that I try it, and all I can remember is that

I think

> Andy recommended against it, but I don't remember why..does anyone

know why

> we shouldn't use?

> It is one of those 'things' that sound REALLY good.

> Thanks,

> Carol

>

March 13, 2006

Hi Carol

Here's some information about colloidal silver that I came across a

while ago:

http://www.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

take care

René

>

> Hi all, I am trying to remember why I decided against using

colloidal

> silver.

> Someone has suggested that I try it, and all I can remember is

that I think

> Andy recommended against it, but I don't remember why..does anyone

know why

> we shouldn't use?

> It is one of those 'things' that sound REALLY good.

> Thanks,

> Carol

>

March 13, 2006

>

> I have used it for

> my sons bacteria overgrowth and it works awesome. He never had a

poor

> reaction to colloidal silver and it is the only thing that wiped out

> his bacteria.

I think it's parent testimonials like this is the reason I am trying

chelation in the first place. It's hard to argue with first hand

witnesses, and especially ones in the same situation as myself.

Additionally, there was some actual research in the use of precious

metals which was able to demonstrate not only that they work in many

cases of auto-immune disorders, but that they also are finding out why.

http://web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/2_26DeDecker.html

After seeing that silver skinned woman I have to admit it looked a bit

quackish and scary to be guinea-pigging my kid with. And Andy C.

recommends against using more potentially toxic metals to treat metal

toxicity, and his word carries a lot of weight with me, of course.

Anyways I may be giving ionic platinum a try.

Mark

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