Colloidal Silver

[Guest guest]

, I would also like to share my husband's experience. A year ago

this last January, he weighed 318 pounds!! Also has CHF, high BP, got

serious about losing weight and eating more healthfully and has lost 95

pounds. His appointment with his cardiologist a week ago indicates that he

actually is reversing the CHF, sort of a rarity and BP in normal range. His

meds have been cut in half also. He lost the weight with cutting carbs way

back. Has not done a lot of 's protocol, other than the parasite

cleanse, mop up program, but drinks ozonated water, takes ozonated olive

oil, colloidal silver and vitamin supplements. Does not eat refined or

processed foods.

He plans on starting with the zapping soon.

Phyllis

In a message dated 4/2/03 3:21:29 PM Mountain Standard Time,

drcrandall@... writes:

> She ate healthy (low carb) and controlled her portions and exercised on

> a regular basis. She had to start very very slowly with the exercise as

> it aggravated the condition but she kept at it and is so much better.

> She also started getting adjusted once a month instead of just for acute

> flair ups.

>

> She made a plan and did it!!! She's in her mid 50's, not an easy thing

> at that age. Oh, and we're not talking about a lot of weight, about 50

> lbs. But she is at her appropriate weight now.

>

> Some of my patients will lose what they think is a lot of weight (and it

> is) but they never reach their right weight, so they never find out if

> that would have helped. I'm a big believer that excess fat holds all

> kinds of nasty things and just losing the weight could make so much

> difference. Of course the process of losing it i.e. eating healthy and

> exercising is ultimately what does it. So, it's not about losing

> weight......it never is......it's about getting healthy again.

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: Re: colloidal silver

>

>

> Well maybe whatever she did to lose the weight will give us a clue. What

> was it?

>

> Liz

> Re: colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >I don't think colloidal silver should be given to anyone. In

> theory

> >it's an antibiotic; in reality it hasn't proven to be very

> >effective. Dr. s one of the endless health

> >gurus is opposed to it. Did nothing for my CFS after almost 2

> years

> >of constant use.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/2/03 12:08:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

schw9883@... writes:

> what is the best source for this product?

>

Make it yourself and subscribe to the Silver-L List...

Khepri

[Guest guest]

> By far the most informative place for the beginner and advanced

> student of Colloidal Silver (CS) is at silver-list@....

>

> It covers all aspects of making it yourself, how to use it, for what

> to use it, etc. etc.

> Leo

>

Boy, I'm glad you posted that! LOL! I was hoping no one would ask me what the

address wasbecause I had forgotten...: ) Thanks!

Khepri

[Guest guest]

, CHF is congestive heart failure. Pat has been into health

things most of his life. In later years, he had to travel a lot for his job,

that's when his health deteriorated.

He studied to become a Chiropractor in his earlier years, then we had 4

children, one right after the other and our funds ran out. He has kept up

with it through the years with reading and also going to a Chiropractor. As

I said, his demise was being on the road for 10 years, during that time, his

hours were usually 60 or more hours per week, not even time to go to a

Chiropractor and eating restaurant and fast foods. At one point in recent

years, he contacted the West Nile Virus on one of his jobs, and it was less

than a year later he was diagnosed with the CHF. Had his immune system not

been down from wrong diet, poor sleeping habits, contaminated environments

and long hard days, I doubt he would have ever gained that high weight, or

contacted the West Nile Virus. However, we can't live on what ifs. : )

Phyllis

In a message dated 4/2/03 4:25:52 PM Mountain Standard Time,

drcrandall@... writes:

> That's great. Hopefully, he'll continue on and get to his ideal weight.

> Um, what is CHF? And, gee, Phyllis, pat yourself, AGAIN, on the back

> for marrying a man that's willing to get healthy. I've watched so many

> couples through years, where one of them works at being healthy while

> the other one trashes theirs. And then the healthy spouse gets sick

> because of the stress and all that's involved with being with a sick

> spouse.

>

>

> Re: Re: colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >Well maybe whatever she did to lose the weight will give us a clue.

> What

> >was it?

> >

> >Liz

> > Re: colloidal silver

> > >

> > >

> > >I don't think colloidal silver should be given to anyone. In

> > theory

> > >it's an antibiotic; in reality it hasn't proven to be very

> > >effective. Dr. s one of the endless health

> > >gurus is opposed to it. Did nothing for my CFS after almost 2

> > years

> > >of constant use.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

tHANKS vIRGINIA..I'll check it out..Meanwhile I think that our water here in

Nanaimo is pretty pristine as we're in a big watershed without too much industry

around..I do replace those Brita filters and as I've said; I let the filtered

water sit overnight as well as adding the CS and peroxide..

Re: Re: colloidal silver

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent, thank you, Khepri!!

Re: colloidal silver

In a message dated 3/30/03 6:43:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

drcrandall@... writes:

> Currently, it would be for treatment. The little guy (28 mo.) had a

mild

> fever and said his neck hurt. The ped. said it was probably a virus

and

> would run its course. The fever comes and goes and he says his neck

> hurts again. So he'll be back in this week for another adjustment. I

> don't treat many toddlers so am not up on the current alternatives.

>

> Prevention use would also be appreciated as this Mother prefers that

> over conventional drugs.

>

>

I believe that Dr. Beck had recommended at one point for treatment up to

4 oz

twice per day for an adult.....so what...say a teaspoon?

Speaking of teaspoons....I believe that is the maintenance dose for an

adult,

two to three times per day....

I'll have to double check that....ahhhh, here it is....

" Dosage

In 1940, R. A. Kehoe reported that under normal circumstances, the

average

daily intake of fruits and vegetables would provide between 50-100 mcg

of

silver as a trace element. Since that time, the commercial farm soils of

this

country have become extremely deficient in trace minerals. Although I do

not

have authoritative figures for silver, according to the Earth Summit

Report,

issued in 1992, the levels of soil based minerals in North America have

dropped over 85% in the last 100 years. Assuming that our ancestor's

diet

used to contain trace silver, and that our diet probably has greatly

reduced

levels, there is a reasonable argument for supplementing with colloidal

silver. Two teaspoons of 5 PPM colloidal silver provides about 50 mcg of

silver and could be considered a " nutritional " amount, if taken on a

daily

basis. Any amount above four teaspoons a day or 100 mcg should be

considered

a " therapeutic " amount. That said, it should not be assumed that

electro-colloidal silver is equivalent to or has the same metabolic

effect as

receiving trace silver from dietary plant sources. But since there are

very

few plant sources of trace silver available today, colloidal silver is

probably the best substitute. If you want to experiment with taking

colloidal

silver for an extended period of time, stay within the amounts

considered to

be nutritional. If you want to experiment with larger doses, do so with

caution, and only for a day or two at a time. "

There is a man on another list at that has been ingesting up to a

gallon of CS water per day for about 3 years now with no apparent

side-effects.... All things in moderation, eh!?

Hope that helps....: )

Khepri

[Guest guest]

She ate healthy (low carb) and controlled her portions and exercised on

a regular basis. She had to start very very slowly with the exercise as

it aggravated the condition but she kept at it and is so much better.

She also started getting adjusted once a month instead of just for acute

flair ups.

She made a plan and did it!!! She's in her mid 50's, not an easy thing

at that age. Oh, and we're not talking about a lot of weight, about 50

lbs. But she is at her appropriate weight now.

Some of my patients will lose what they think is a lot of weight (and it

is) but they never reach their right weight, so they never find out if

that would have helped. I'm a big believer that excess fat holds all

kinds of nasty things and just losing the weight could make so much

difference. Of course the process of losing it i.e. eating healthy and

exercising is ultimately what does it. So, it's not about losing

weight......it never is......it's about getting healthy again.

Re: Re: colloidal silver

Well maybe whatever she did to lose the weight will give us a clue. What

was it?

Liz

Re: colloidal silver

>

>

> I don't think colloidal silver should be given to anyone. In

theory

> it's an antibiotic; in reality it hasn't proven to be very

> effective. Dr. s one of the endless health

> gurus is opposed to it. Did nothing for my CFS after almost 2

years

> of constant use.

[Guest guest]

That's great. Hopefully, he'll continue on and get to his ideal weight.

Um, what is CHF? And, gee, Phyllis, pat yourself, AGAIN, on the back

for marrying a man that's willing to get healthy. I've watched so many

couples through years, where one of them works at being healthy while

the other one trashes theirs. And then the healthy spouse gets sick

because of the stress and all that's involved with being with a sick

spouse.

Re: Re: colloidal silver

>

>

> Well maybe whatever she did to lose the weight will give us a clue.

What

> was it?

>

> Liz

> Re: colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >I don't think colloidal silver should be given to anyone. In

> theory

> >it's an antibiotic; in reality it hasn't proven to be very

> >effective. Dr. s one of the endless health

> >gurus is opposed to it. Did nothing for my CFS after almost 2

> years

> >of constant use.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Mel, I was happy to read about your tumors forming those scabs

and getting ready to fall out. I have spent some time in the cansema

website: I find it facinating. I have ordered the tonicIII, I don't

think I want the tumor in my neck falling out and leaving a hole.

Did you see the pictures of the guy with a tumor on his tongue? I

hope your pictures come out.

Take care,

Virginia

> > Alright khepri;

> > What if one were to add H2O2 and Cs to tap water...Would that

> eliminate harmful bacteria..That's what I'm doing now..about 20

> drops of 35% food grade peroxide to about 2 litres..plus a tbsp of

> CS..

> > mel..

> > Re: Re: colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually if you want to subscribe to the list follow the instructions below, as

the address

given will only let subscribers post.

Instructions for subscribing or unsubscribing may be found at:

http://silverlist.org

khepri3@... wrote:

> > By far the most informative place for the beginner and advanced

> > student of Colloidal Silver (CS) is at silver-list@....

> >

> > It covers all aspects of making it yourself, how to use it, for what

> > to use it, etc. etc.

> > Leo

> >

>

> Boy, I'm glad you posted that! LOL! I was hoping no one would ask me what the

> address wasbecause I had forgotten...: ) Thanks!

>

> Khepri

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the CHF translation. Have you been to the www.altcancer.com

website? They have a cayenne pepper tincture that has some pretty

dramatic testimonials for heart disease, just an idea for ya.

Best wishes in your road to better health,

Re: Re: colloidal silver

> >

> >

> >Well maybe whatever she did to lose the weight will give us a clue.

> What

> >was it?

> >

> >Liz

> > Re: colloidal silver

> > >

> > >

> > >I don't think colloidal silver should be given to anyone. In

> > theory

> > >it's an antibiotic; in reality it hasn't proven to be very

> > >effective. Dr. s one of the endless health

> > >gurus is opposed to it. Did nothing for my CFS after almost 2

> > years

> > >of constant use.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll pass that on

lIz

Re: colloidal silver

>

>

> I don't think colloidal silver should be given to anyone. In

theory

> it's an antibiotic; in reality it hasn't proven to be very

> effective. Dr. s one of the endless health

> gurus is opposed to it. Did nothing for my CFS after almost 2

years

> of constant use.

[Guest guest]

Be careful with giving a heavy metal to a potentially metals toxic child.

[ ] Colloidal Silver

Our son just started on this, 1/4 teas. a day. Have any of your children had

much success with it?

Thanks,

Jill G.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your opinion. However, my question was whether your child had

much success with it.

Thank you again,

Jill G.

jennifer thompson wrote:

> Be careful with giving a heavy metal to a potentially metals toxic child.

>

>

> [ ] Colloidal Silver

>

> Our son just started on this, 1/4 teas. a day. Have any of your children had

much success with

> it?

> Thanks,

> Jill G.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes though I was specifically going for bacteria as I use other stuff for

yeast. I used 3ppm 2.5 mls twice daily for 7 days. Worked a treat. Lots of

probiotics given also.

Mandi inUK

> Does any of you have experiences with colloidal silver for treating

> the yeast problem, please help!!

>

[Guest guest]

i don't know its much of an anti fungal.

> Dear listmates,

>

> Does any of you have experiences with colloidal silver for treating

> the yeast problem, please help!!

>

> Regards,

> Rudy

[Guest guest]

30ppm?

> Yes though I was specifically going for bacteria as I use other

stuff for

> yeast. I used 3ppm 2.5 mls twice daily for 7 days. Worked a treat.

Lots of

> probiotics given also.

> Mandi inUK

>

> > Does any of you have experiences with colloidal silver for

treating

> > the yeast problem, please help!!

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nope, just 3 ppm. The only other strength I have seen in UK is 12ppm. Nothing

as high as 30

Mandi in UK

> 30ppm?

>

>

> >Yes though I was specifically going for bacteria as I use other

> stuff for

> >yeast. I used 3ppm 2.5 mls twice daily for 7 days. Worked a treat.

> Lots of

> >probiotics given also.

> >Mandi inUK

>

[Guest guest]

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Joanne Pollack [mailto:jopollack2001@...]

>

> Does anyone here use colloidal silver regularly? Or

> spot-treat with it? What are the benefits of it?

>

> It seems very expensive, and I wondered if it was worth the

> investment?

>

> THe leaflet claimed no known side-effects. This seems a

> little unlikely to me - does anyone have a counter-argument?

I don't know anything about its efficacy, but apparently chronic consumption

of high doses can turn your skin blue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2297471.stm

Berg

[Guest guest]

I have used Colloidal Silver for many uses. Both internal and

external. Very good stuff. All the claims on brochures.... are quite

true. I would buy it. Here in Canada it can cost up to 50.00 dollars.

I don't know what the price limit you would consider but it is a

great health saver. If you see colloidal copper that is good as well.

Deep in Canada North... Leanne

-- In , Joanne Pollack

<jopollack2001@y...> wrote:

> Hi

> I remember discussions some time ago about colloidal

> silver, but as it wasn't on my " health radar " back

> then, I didn't pay much attention.

>

> I was at a complementary health fair today, and found

> a stall selling the stuff, and giving out leaflets

> aobut the health benefits. It got my attention.

>

> Does anyone here use colloidal silver regularly? Or

> spot-treat with it? What are the benefits of it?

>

> It seems very expensive, and I wondered if it was

> worth the investment?

>

> THe leaflet claimed no known side-effects. This seems

> a little unlikely to me - does anyone have a

> counter-argument?

>

> Thanks for your help

>

> Jo

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I use colloidal silver. I tend to use it topically, since I have other

things to use internally that don't have the side effect mentioned. I first

started using it because my daughter has a cat that hates strangers, so we

seldom take him to the vet. He had gotten in a fight and had a nasty gash

behind his ear. We put silver on it twice a day and it healed very nicely.

Another time he had what appeared to be pinkeye, so we used the silver on

that and that also cleared up very well. It also does a great job on canker

sores; takes about two applications, morning and night, and they're gone.

[Guest guest]

<I don't know anything about its efficacy, but apparently chronic

consumption

of high doses can turn your skin blue.>

The only way that CS will turn you blue is if you make it incorrectly IE:

using tap water instead of distilled water or adding salt. Those are the

main culprits. A while back there was a big deal about some politician

turning blue from using CS and he was very upfront that he did not make it

correctly. : )

It is very expensive to buy but very cheap to make. I have a generator that

i paid $100 for and supply myself and a couple of friends/family with it. I

use it for cuts, scraps, sore throats, nasal congestion. Used it in

conjunction with DMSO for RW on a cat. Also as a general disinfectant for

wiping counter tops, sponges etc.

Kathy A.

[Guest guest]

So there is actually silver put in to the water? I thought the body didn't

manage metals very well. Silver seems to be ok? Do you know any of the

mechanisms why it works?

Kim

>

> It is very expensive to buy but very cheap to make. I have a generator

that

> i paid $100 for and supply myself and a couple of friends/family with it.

I

> use it for cuts, scraps, sore throats, nasal congestion. Used it in

> conjunction with DMSO for RW on a cat. Also as a general disinfectant for

> wiping counter tops, sponges etc.

>

> Kathy A.

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<So there is actually silver put in to the water? I thought the body

didn't

manage metals very well. Silver seems to be ok? Do you know any of the

mechanisms why it works?

Kim>>

Yes, 99.9% pure silver rods are used. Silver works and if you delve into it

other metals can be used but it seems to get a lot more complicated. Not

something for the average home brewer. I have no scientific understanding

of why it works anymore than i do why any traditional drugs works <shrug>

One other experience i have with it was with one of my dogs had what looked

like a sty on his lower eyelid. The vet did a culture and while we were

waiting for the results he sold me some expensive water to flush the eye

with. I used CS instead, the sty came to a head, opened, drained and

disappeared. When the vet called to tell me that it was a staph infection

and to come pick up the drugs, he pretty much called me a liar when i told

him that it was gone and i didn't think i needed them.

If you really want technical stuff you might try Trem at

Http://www.silvergen.com

or Ken at http://www.silverpuppy.com/

They both do sell generators but are also both knowledgeable.

Also you might join the group CS cat-dog list and read through the

files section. There is a lot of info there.

Kathy A.

[Guest guest]

Rosemary's story is well-known. It is always trotted out to prove how

dangerous CS is to ingest. However, Rosemary did not take CS but some other

silver combination. The blue-bloods were blue because they ate off of

silver, not because they used CS.

Silver nitrate was used for years in a newborn's eyes, and silvadene is

still used as I previously mentioned. There are band-aids with silver and I

have heard (don't know myself) of socks and underwear with silver.

You must know that CS can be made for pennies thereby being a BIG loss for

Big Pharma.

HTH

>

> You might also find this interesting:

>

> http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/

http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA3690/

>

> I had no idea there was so much talk about this and for so many years

> now.

>

> Mark

>

>

>

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