Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Hi DC, Thanks for the update! Are her problems focussing at school caused by her OCD? My daughter also has ADHD, or at least the psychologist is quite certain she does; she did a battery of tests, but she doesn't fit all of the criteria. Her teachers couldn't see it. She has no behavioral problems at school and her grades are average. She holds it all together at school, and then BOOM! explosion, the minute she walks through the door. She was displaying many signs of anxiety, shortness of breath, heart racing, throat clearing, fear, and then, the OCD stuff slowly started appearing. It is not debilitating (yet!), but it is just an add-on to the rest of the stuff. The meltdowns are the worst, in terms of physical and emotional demand, and constantly trying to be on top of things, planning, etc. She is very impulsive and looks for stimulation. She wants a million things, immediately. But the OCD is by far the scariest! I feel desperate to stay on top of it, so that it doesn't spin out of control. She is on ADHD meds, Strattera for which we are starting to see improvements. She is not on any SSRI's at this point. We are waiting to see if calming down the ADHD will calm down the anxiety. One thing that helped my daughter tremendously for school is a tutor. She sees her only 1 hour a week. But it is enough to give her time to review class material, in a quiet. The teacher says it has made a big difference. Anyway, enough about us! It's just that I understand how hard it is to watch our kids suffer, and to constantly be thinking of ways to make it better. It is exhausting! How does homework go? I have had to relax my homework standards here, because most times, it ends in tears ans meltdowns. I just can't take the screaming!! Anyway, I am NOT the expert here, especially since we are fairly new at this OCD thing, but maybe you could ask her to choose how she can change the ritual. That it's her way of telling OCD he is not the boss. Maybe it won't be much at first, but you could build on it. Tell her she will add to it once she is comfortable. But I know how it is when they are closed and just can't move forward. My daughter's biggest thing is constantly asking reassurance questions. Eg. " I stepped on squirrel tracks, can I get rabies? " The shampoo bottle says not to swallow; what if I get a little in my mouth? " And the same questions get asked over and over. I have not yet found a way to start working on that. She will meltdown if I refuse to answer the question. Her psychologist says to let it go for now, if it is too hard, so we work on the bedtime showering, etc. ritual which has been going ok, slowly eliminating a few steps. We picked this one because my daughter chose that one to work on. She felt like she could manage it. Well, I have gone on way too long! Best of luck to you! Dianne > > > > > > > > > > Connie, > > > > > > > > > > I like the idea about recording the anxiety level after she > > > washes > > > > > her hands. How does he record it, rate by numbers? I think > I > > > > will > > > > > do this with my daughter. She has this thing were she keeps > > > > wiping > > > > > after she goes to the BR, she doesn't feel like she is clean > > > > enough. > > > > > She has been clogging the toilets up and missing lots of > class > > > > time. > > > > > ANy advise on to how to help her at school?? I feel like she > > > > needs > > > > > someone with her all day to monitor her behavior. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for sharing. Please let me know how your son > did > > > the > > > > > rating. My daughter is only 8, so I think whatever it is it > would > > > > > need to be simple. Did your therapist set a number on how > many > > > > times > > > > > he could wash his hands or when he could wash or are you just > > > > > concentrating on the time thing for now?? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 ********************** My daughter's biggest thing is constantly asking reassurance questions. ************** This is one of Kate's most frustrating issues, too. " Does the world get new air or do we breathe the same air everyone else has already breathed!? " " Mommy? Will you be mad if Collie (fav stuffed animal) wears out? " " Tell me again about the disease that so-and-so had and they died? " " But I can't go to sleep! It is raining and what if there's a tornado or a hurricane!? " Ugh! The only thing that has helped us in this realm is to say, " I doubt it. " or " I honestly don't know but will ask someone. " Often these come up at night and I have to tell her that " We'll discuss it in the morning. For right now I need you to get some sleep. " Then we do the glass of water routine and some of our other calming techniques. Have you tried a more stern, re-focusing approach? This is what her teacher did when Kate was having melt downs at school. We didn't know it was OCD at the time but her teacher does have OCD and taught Kate some of her coping mechanisms (I LOVE this teacher!). When Kate was panicking she put a firm arm around her shoulders and said, " We are NOT going to do this, Kate. So -- I want you to walk back to the room with me to get your lunch box. On the way you are going to tell me the names of everything you see. " So they walked back to get her lunchbox (the forgotten item that led to the meltdown) and she said, " door . . . teacher . . . 3rd graders . . . yellow poster . . . resource room . . . water fountain. . . " She was apparently back to her old self within less than a minute. I think the key for her was redirection. If her mind is focusing on some task that takes her brain power (finding names of things and then saying them) then she breaks the obsession. Does that make sense? Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Thank you Beth! My son has been diagnosed for one week today so I'm brand new to all of this. I have been reading most of the messages and I'm starting to know my son more from all of your information. There are things that he does, like Beth's daughter with the constant reassurance, and I didn't even realize that it was the OCD. I just thought he was tirelessly curious! LOL. I just wanted to Thank everyone for sharing your experiences. It really helps to know that we are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Hi Beth, You are right! Redirection can work great. I discovered this can work well for some of my daughter's meltdowns. She will often meltdown when she wants something(that she can't have)and gets " stuck " obsessing over it. Like the other night, she had been in a meltdown for almost 1 hour, and I finally said " hey, we are about to order out for dinner. How about you be in charge of taking everybody's order " . She snapped right out of it. Ordering out is something she loves. By the way, I hadn't planned to order out, but I hadn't been able to get supper ready with her carrying on forever! She started another one the other night, so I quickly thought about redirecting, so I suggested we go for a walk around the block. Again, she snapped out of it and said " can I ring my friend's doorbell and say Hi? " Now, I just need to figure out how to apply this with her questioning. She can't know what I am trying to do or she would accuse me of " tricking " her. About bedtime, my pediatrician suggest I try Melatonin. I wasn't sure what it was, so I looked it up. It is sold over the counter as a " natural remedy " . It is basically a synthetic version of the chemical in our brain that helps tell us to go to sleep. People take this for jet lag, or if they are on variable shift work. Anyway, since I started giving it to her about 15-30 minutes before bed, she drops off within 10 minutes! Before, it was sometimes an hour before I could get her to settle down, relax and stop asking questions! The melatonin made a huge difference. And she gets more sleep, which helps with everything else. Cheers! Dianne > > ********************** > My daughter's biggest thing is constantly asking reassurance questions. > ************** > > This is one of Kate's most frustrating issues, too. " Does the world get new air or do we breathe the same air everyone else has already breathed!? " " Mommy? Will you be mad if Collie (fav stuffed animal) wears out? " " Tell me again about the disease that so-and-so had and they died? " " But I can't go to sleep! It is raining and what if there's a tornado or a hurricane!? " Ugh! > > The only thing that has helped us in this realm is to say, " I doubt it. " or " I honestly don't know but will ask someone. " Often these come up at night and I have to tell her that " We'll discuss it in the morning. For right now I need you to get some sleep. " Then we do the glass of water routine and some of our other calming techniques. > > Have you tried a more stern, re-focusing approach? This is what her teacher did when Kate was having melt downs at school. We didn't know it was OCD at the time but her teacher does have OCD and taught Kate some of her coping mechanisms (I LOVE this teacher!). When Kate was panicking she put a firm arm around her shoulders and said, " We are NOT going to do this, Kate. So -- I want you to walk back to the room with me to get your lunch box. On the way you are going to tell me the names of everything you see. " So they walked back to get her lunchbox (the forgotten item that led to the meltdown) and she said, " door . . . teacher . . . 3rd graders . . . yellow poster . . . resource room . . . water fountain. . . " She was apparently back to her old self within less than a minute. I think the key for her was redirection. If her mind is focusing on some task that takes her brain power (finding names of things and then saying them) then she breaks the obsession. Does that make sense? > > Beth > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 now that i have at least said hello and given a little information, i can tend to these emails i've flagged over the past few weeks that were relevant to us as well. my daughter too clogged the toilets. recently, she suddenly switched to asking if she could use even the smallest square to wipe her nose with. she had learned where paper comes from and is very distressed over living trees becoming paper products. she won't use the bathroom at school because she wants to avoid the stress. she comes home every day and rushes to the bathroom. she has become the ultimate poster child for " green. " she stopped eating meat next.. then thought there was meat in everything, even a glass of water. when i bought meatless soy chicken nuggets and veggie burgers she had to read the package from the garbage twenty times to be sure, and even then, she wasn't, as you must know. then a teacher at school told her that vegans don't eat eggs and other animal by-products. there went the eggs and a call to the teacher. even though they have a vegetarian selection at lunch she won't eat there. if i make her lunch she will tell me she thought there was meat in it and i wasn't there to ask. next came asking about everything in the house - is it made of leather? how do you know? asking people in the stores if there is leather inside, etc. won't wear two pair of cool clogs her grannie sent her.. is this barbie made of leather? etc.. anyone who didn't know what was going on would think her parents are incredibly earthy-crunchy. i take spiders outside for her and can't smush an ant in front of her. every stuffed animal she has is " real " and she says they talk to her.. maybe you could hear too if you listened hard enough, she says. i'm still trying to figure out if she hears voices from the inside of her head, or from the outside in. regardless, they are very real for her. one day a few weeks ago she started standing books up, like on display in stores, lots of space between every page. i knew it was because of the animals or people in the book. she wanted to make sure they could breathe. then all pictures, cards.. anything with a representation of a live thing were spread out all over or standing up.. i know ocd is not psychotic, but it sure looks like it sometimes. looking at our betta in the fish tank she swears she's eating it. is the only difference between psychotic or not whether the person recognizes there's a problem? just some thoughts.. > > BJ, > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > My daughter's compulsions are more then just the hand washing. She > also has this issue were she just doesn't feel like she clean enough > and continues to wipe- until she ends up clogging the toilets! And > for a little while she was having the issue about having to pee over > and over and over... just like your son, but that kinda just went away > (thanks GOD!). SHe does a lot of washing after she goes to the > bathroom- she washes her arms, all the way to her elbows. She has > been slipping back since our therapy session have ended, but today > has been the worst. > > Her teacher said she missed most of her math class today because she > was in the BR and when she finally did join the class she didn't get > any work don. The teacher says really is not on task and not getting > her class work done. I feel like I don't know how to help her at > school?? Do you have any suggestions??? > > .... ....edited > > DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Hi , Oh My God, after reading your post, I thought I wrote it about my son! Especailly thie thing about the fish! My son said to me when this all started that he was eating the fish, that they were in his mouth. My son never clogged the toilets, but my dd does that.I have 2 kids with the ocd, but my son's is much worse than my dd. I went through this since my son was 4, with the wondering if he had schizophrenia or not. He is now 6 1/2. He has been to 3 doctors that all say that it is " bad thought ocd " . I was told that if your  child knows these things are not really happening(like eating the fish) than you know it's the ocd. It's when they think it is real, that you have to worry about schizophrenia. I had two doctors say my son was psychotic due to the horrific thoughts.I 'm bringing him to another place for another opinion I feel so bad for you because I can relate so much!!!!!! Hang in there! Hugs judy Re: when ocd strikes now that i have at least said hello and given a little information, i can tend to these emails i've flagged over the past few weeks that were relevant to us as well. my daughter too clogged the toilets. recently, she suddenly switched to asking if she could use even the smallest square to wipe her nose with. she had learned where paper comes from and is very distressed over living trees becoming paper products. she won't use the bathroom at school because she wants to avoid the stress. she comes home every day and rushes to the bathroom. she has become the ultimate poster child for " green. " she stopped eating meat next.. then thought there was meat in everything, even a glass of water. when i bought meatless soy chicken nuggets and veggie burgers she had to read the package from the garbage twenty times to be sure, and even then, she wasn't, as you must know. then a teacher at school told her that vegans don't eat eggs and other animal by-products. there went the eggs and a call to the teacher. even though they have a vegetarian selection at lunch she won't eat there. if i make her lunch she will tell me she thought there was meat in it and i wasn't there to ask. next came asking about everything in the house - is it made of leather? how do you know? asking people in the stores if there is leather inside, etc. won't wear two pair of cool clogs her grannie sent her.. is this barbie made of leather? etc.. anyone who didn't know what was going on would think her parents are incredibly earthy-crunchy. i take spiders outside for her and can't smush an ant in front of her. every stuffed animal she has is " real " and she says they talk to her.. maybe you could hear too if you listened hard enough, she says. i'm still trying to figure out if she hears voices from the inside of her head, or from the outside in. regardless, they are very real for her. one day a few weeks ago she started standing books up, like on display in stores, lots of space between every page. i knew it was because of the animals or people in the book. she wanted to make sure they could breathe. then all pictures, cards.. anything with a representation of a live thing were spread out all over or standing up.. i know ocd is not psychotic, but it sure looks like it sometimes. looking at our betta in the fish tank she swears she's eating it. is the only difference between psychotic or not whether the person recognizes there's a problem? just some thoughts.. > > BJ, > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > My daughter's compulsions are more then just the hand washing. She > also has this issue were she just doesn't feel like she clean enough > and continues to wipe- until she ends up clogging the toilets! And > for a little while she was having the issue about having to pee over > and over and over... just like your son, but that kinda just went away > (thanks GOD!). SHe does a lot of washing after she goes to the > bathroom- she washes her arms, all the way to her elbows. She has > been slipping back since our therapy session have ended, but today > has been the worst. > > Her teacher said she missed most of her math class today because she > was in the BR and when she finally did join the class she didn't get > any work don. The teacher says really is not on task and not getting > her class work done. I feel like I don't know how to help her at > school?? Do you have any suggestions? ?? > > .... ....edited > > DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Wow, . Your daughter's case seems very severe. How old is she? My 11 yo son also assigns feelings to inanimate objects, including stuffed animals, as well as insects which I kill in front of him anyway to show him he'll live through it. I don't know what constitutes psychosis but I suspect it has something to do with one's grasp of reality. Have a calm day. --- Beskin wrote: > now that i have at least said hello and given a > little information, i > can tend to these emails i've flagged over the past > few weeks that > were relevant to us as well. > > > my daughter too clogged the toilets. recently, she > suddenly switched > to asking if she could use even the smallest square > to wipe her nose > with. she had learned where paper comes from and is > very distressed > over living trees becoming paper products. she won't > use the bathroom > at school because she wants to avoid the stress. > she comes home every > day and rushes to the bathroom. > > she has become the ultimate poster child for > " green. " she stopped > eating meat next.. then thought there was meat in > everything, even a > glass of water. when i bought meatless soy chicken > nuggets and veggie > burgers she had to read the package from the garbage > twenty times to > be sure, and even then, she wasn't, as you must > know. > > then a teacher at school told her that vegans don't > eat eggs and other > animal by-products. there went the eggs and a call > to the teacher. > > even though they have a vegetarian selection at > lunch she won't eat > there. if i make her lunch she will tell me she > thought there was > meat in it and i wasn't there to ask. > > next came asking about everything in the house - is > it made of > leather? how do you know? asking people in the > stores if there is > leather inside, etc. won't wear two pair of cool > clogs her grannie > sent her.. is this barbie made of leather? etc.. > > anyone who didn't know what was going on would think > her parents are > incredibly earthy-crunchy. > > i take spiders outside for her and can't smush an > ant in front of her. > every stuffed animal she has is " real " and she says > they talk to > her.. maybe you could hear too if you listened hard > enough, she says. > i'm still trying to figure out if she hears voices > from the inside of > her head, or from the outside in. regardless, they > are very real for her. > > one day a few weeks ago she started standing books > up, like on display > in stores, lots of space between every page. i knew > it was because of > the animals or people in the book. she wanted to > make sure they could > breathe. then all pictures, cards.. anything with a > representation of > a live thing were spread out all over or standing > up.. > > i know ocd is not psychotic, but it sure looks like > it sometimes. > looking at our betta in the fish tank she swears > she's eating it. > > is the only difference between psychotic or not > whether the person > recognizes there's a problem? > > just some thoughts.. > > > > > > > BJ, > > > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > > > My daughter's compulsions are more then just the > hand washing. She > > also has this issue were she just doesn't feel > like she clean enough > > and continues to wipe- until she ends up clogging > the toilets! And > > for a little while she was having the issue about > having to pee over > > and over and over... just like your son, but that > kinda just went away > > (thanks GOD!). SHe does a lot of washing after she > goes to the > > bathroom- she washes her arms, all the way to her > elbows. She has > > been slipping back since our therapy session have > ended, but today > > has been the worst. > > > > Her teacher said she missed most of her math class > today because she > > was in the BR and when she finally did join the > class she didn't get > > any work don. The teacher says really is not on > task and not getting > > her class work done. I feel like I don't know how > to help her at > > school?? Do you have any suggestions??? > > > > .... ....edited > > > > DC > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 , I'm probably asking questions you've already answered. . (took a needed break, somewhat, for a while so haven't been keeping up), but is your daughter on medication? How old is she? Is she in therapy using CBT and ERP? Our son was similar to what you are describing when he was off of medication. Sometimes he would tell me things that was going on inside of his head that would make me cringe, although I would keep my game face on for his sake (didn't want to freak him out that I was freaking out). I would cringe (inwardly) because I was shocked at all the stuff he was having to contend with, that he couldn't turn off. All the chatter and minute details going through his mind, and things that overlapped, as OCD ran rampant. What you shared sounds very familiar. Medication helped a lot for us, and therapy is taking care of the rest. Our son is living pretty well now,. . Not perfect, but better. Better is acceptable. Don't lose hope. BJ > > > > BJ, > > > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > > > My daughter's compulsions are more then just the hand washing. She > > also has this issue were she just doesn't feel like she clean enough > > and continues to wipe- until she ends up clogging the toilets! And > > for a little while she was having the issue about having to pee over > > and over and over... just like your son, but that kinda just went away > > (thanks GOD!). SHe does a lot of washing after she goes to the > > bathroom- she washes her arms, all the way to her elbows. She has > > been slipping back since our therapy session have ended, but today > > has been the worst. > > > > Her teacher said she missed most of her math class today because she > > was in the BR and when she finally did join the class she didn't get > > any work don. The teacher says really is not on task and not getting > > her class work done. I feel like I don't know how to help her at > > school?? Do you have any suggestions??? > > > > .... ....edited > > > > DC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 " i know ocd is not psychotic, but it sure looks like it sometimes. > looking at our betta in the fish tank she swears she's eating it. > is the only difference between psychotic or not whether the person > recognizes there's a problem? just some thoughts.. " Hi , Our son fused with the OCD to become one at some point. It sure looked psychotic at times, and our son did not recognize it as a problem, and still often will not. It IS him, his identity, he does not like the separation and referencing the OCD, again, because it is HIM. He is almost 17, he knows he has OCD, and he knows it causes problems, but it also, he feels, has made him smarter and more powerful in ways. Since the OCD is the ultimate bully, I think he wants to be part of that, rather than being the one being bullied (a past issue).... It goes on, but I'll stop. Long and the short of it, OCD takes on many forms and sure can take over these kids until they seem unrecognizable, at least that is our experience. Can be pretty freaky at times can't it?!!! Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 hey guys, I have been reading through this thread and it is so nice to " see " my children in here. Makes me feel like maybe they aren't crazy or I am not crazy thinking everything they do is/can be OCD related. All three of my children have OCD. They have had it since birth. I can remember my daughter being like three to six months old and she would make this crazy noise. I thought she wasn't breathing, but she was, so then I thought maybe she was hyperventalating. anyways, after a couple of panic attacks of my own because I couldn't figure out what was happening with her, my husband and I finally figured out that she was doing this when she wet her diaper. Now I always heard that if the child did not like a wet diaper it was time to potty train, but the girl could not even walk, or sit up. That's how I knew with her. The two boys showed signs too. I wish now though that I was more aware with my oldest son. I think sometimes that I could have helped him more if I had just known. We (my husband and I) have been so much better with the younger two. Which I tell my oldest son we are very grateful to him for. Without him as our experiment, life would be much worse for his siblings. I do wonder though as I read through all the different coping mechanisms on these posts and as I read through all the different literature if trying to make them " turn off " their thoughts is the best way. I mean, part of what I try to do with my kids is help them accept their idiocyncracies, for lack of better word. We didn't put the kids on meds until they felt their compulsions were problems. for instance, my youngest son has always " needed " small pieces of plastic. Of course at first we wouldn't allow him to have it. Once we realized how much of a need this was for him, we just made rules. He couldn't have it in bed, he couldn't take it out of the house, he couldn't put it around his mouth. Once he got to school though, the anxiety was so high, that he was sneaking the plastic out of the house. Finally, we had to readjust the rules so he could cope. After a while though, even the new rules did not work for him because the other kids were always making fun of him. It was then that he asked for additional help, which is when we put him on meds. In fact, he has such an awareness of his needs that he fills out those questionaires about behavior for the Dr., not just me. So, I wrote all that to ask if y'all thought that we (all of us:parents,doctors, psychiatrists, other family members, etc.) work too hard to " fix " them instead of teaching them to accept themselves? 16 yr old son on wellbutrin, 8 yr old daughter on paxil and vyvanse, 8 yr old son on prozac, congentin, focalin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 So, I wrote all that to ask if y'all thought that we (all of us:parents,doctors, psychiatrists, other family members, etc.) work too hard to " fix " them instead of teaching them to accept themselves? , I was so excited to see this. I have been asking myself this question a lot lately. Should I expect my son to eliminate all his compulsions, or simply to learn how to work them so they don't interfere with his life? Now, I'm thinking of the diabetes analogy. If our kids had diabetes, another biological disorder, would we expect them to just accept it as part of themselves and not treat it? I have seen how lack of treatment can lead to worsening of compulsive behavior, frustration, self-hate and even suicide ideation. But maybe you weren't implying withholding treatment... Have you heard that motto, " It's not me. It's OCD. " We're supposed to help our kids separate themselves from their disease, which would be at odds with teaching them to accept it as an inevitable part of their lives. Great question, anyway. Messages in this topic (62) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages Our list archives,links, and files features may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// . Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D.(http://www.ocdawareness.com ), Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.( http://www.worrywisekids.org ), Dan Geller, M.D. (http://massgeneral.org/pediatricpsych/staff/geller.html ),Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., ( http://www.lighthouse-press.com ). Our list moderators are Chris Castle, Judy Chabot, BJ Closner, and Barb Nesrallah. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list administrator, at louisharkins@... or louisharkins@... . Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 8 New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Yahoo! Group to share and learn. Yahoo! Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Y! Groups blog the best source for the latest scoop on Groups. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 ! Diabetes is exactly what i keep comparing it to! I just keep thinking about it because I don't want my children to feel like they are plagued with a " disease " . I want them to understand this his just how their bodies work and to accept that about themselves. If it was diabetes, they wouldn't go their entire life and not eat sweets. They would learn there was a time and a place, moderation. I just keep mulling it because the idea of trying to " change " them really bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Your ideas make sense. Fact is, you probably can't change them because in most cases, OCD never goes away forever. Maybe it's more like being a recovering alcoholic, and you're always in recovery. The more you practice abstinence, the easier it gets. And hopefully, the more our kids use their coping techniques when the anxiety strikes, rather than using their compulsions, the easier it will get for them. --- t wrote: > ! > Diabetes is exactly what i keep comparing it to! I > just keep thinking > about it because I don't want my children to feel > like they are plagued > with a " disease " . I want them to understand this > his just how their > bodies work and to accept that about themselves. If > it was diabetes, > they wouldn't go their entire life and not eat > sweets. They would > learn there was a time and a place, moderation. I > just keep mulling it > because the idea of trying to " change " them really > bothers me. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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