Further questions about breeding with a bull

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--- Re: Further questions about breeding with a bullDate: Sat, July 12, 2008 1:48 amTo: <rawdairy >,

Please avoid Lutalyse, and all heat timing hormones. First of all forcing a cow to go into heat is counter to our WAPF philosophy, and is against the organic rules. Sue and I used it in our early and ignorant years. Sue had a syringe in her pocket. About 1.5 cc oozed out and soaked through the pocket fabric to her skin. She had sore breasts for a minimum of 3 weeks and more like 2 months. She also said that she was glad this did not happen prior to her hysterectomy. To me this is a seat belt issue. Better safe than sorry. I personally think that the day will come that heat timing hormones will be found to be as bad or worse than BGH. If I had to have a bull as a newbie, I would go with a young angus, and ship it the moment it began to show any signs of aggression. Charlie

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--- Re: Further questions about breeding with a bullDate: Sat, July 12, 2008 1:48 amTo: <rawdairy >,

Please avoid Lutalyse, and all heat timing hormones. First of all forcing a cow to go into heat is counter to our WAPF philosophy, and is against the organic rules. Sue and I used it in our early and ignorant years. Sue had a syringe in her pocket. About 1.5 cc oozed out and soaked through the pocket fabric to her skin. She had sore breasts for a minimum of 3 weeks and more like 2 months. She also said that she was glad this did not happen prior to her hysterectomy. To me this is a seat belt issue. Better safe than sorry. I personally think that the day will come that heat timing hormones will be found to be as bad or worse than BGH. If I had to have a bull as a newbie, I would go with a young angus, and ship it the moment it began to show any signs of aggression. Charlie

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RE: Further questions about breeding with a bull

Are the panels made of pipe or wire?-----Original Message-----From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]OnBehalf Of merginmungerSent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:03 AMTo: RawDairy Subject: Further questions about breeding with a bullThanks for all the responses so far.We have 16' horse panels for our pen. Is that sturdy enough?We would only be renting the Jersey bull, not owning it, for about a month.We had hoped to breed to a Jersey in hopes of getting a heifer. What is milk production like in a heifer if crossed bred with a non-dairy bull?Thanks again.Dona------------------------------------PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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RE: Further questions about breeding with a bull

Are the panels made of pipe or wire?-----Original Message-----From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]OnBehalf Of merginmungerSent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:03 AMTo: RawDairy Subject: Further questions about breeding with a bullThanks for all the responses so far.We have 16' horse panels for our pen. Is that sturdy enough?We would only be renting the Jersey bull, not owning it, for about a month.We had hoped to breed to a Jersey in hopes of getting a heifer. What is milk production like in a heifer if crossed bred with a non-dairy bull?Thanks again.Dona------------------------------------PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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I've seen some really nice Jersey/Holstein crosses. Wouldn't mind having one. I'm only concerned about calving for the Jersey as a Holstein is a larger animal and our cow supposedly has a bit of hip displasia. Is that a valid concern? She has calved twice without a problem. That was when she was in a dairy herd.

Thanks for your help.

Dona

Re: Further questions about breeding with a bull

I sold a really nice little white face X Holstein this year and as a first freshener she was milking about 5 gallons a day. I think that is good for a first freshening Jersey. I sold her as a family cow and so a beef cross might be just fine. You would have very nice beef calves to raise if she had a bull. Much better than a Jersey bull would be.

Chris

We had hoped to breed to a Jersey in hopes of getting a heifer. What is milk production like in a heifer if crossed bred with a non-dairy bull?Thanks again.Dona____________________________________________________________ Earn up to $300 hour. Click here to get information on starting a medical career.

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I've seen some really nice Jersey/Holstein crosses. Wouldn't mind having one. I'm only concerned about calving for the Jersey as a Holstein is a larger animal and our cow supposedly has a bit of hip displasia. Is that a valid concern? She has calved twice without a problem. That was when she was in a dairy herd.

Thanks for your help.

Dona

Re: Further questions about breeding with a bull

I sold a really nice little white face X Holstein this year and as a first freshener she was milking about 5 gallons a day. I think that is good for a first freshening Jersey. I sold her as a family cow and so a beef cross might be just fine. You would have very nice beef calves to raise if she had a bull. Much better than a Jersey bull would be.

Chris

We had hoped to breed to a Jersey in hopes of getting a heifer. What is milk production like in a heifer if crossed bred with a non-dairy bull?Thanks again.Dona____________________________________________________________ Earn up to $300 hour. Click here to get information on starting a medical career.