Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Barbara, I have heard about the man who has lived on raw milk his whole life but not about the other one. Interesting, thanks!Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com Several years ago there was a man, member of this group who went on raw milk diet. He was on it for over two years and felt great. Nobody seems to remember him so I felt I had to write. Also, there is a book "The Milk Diet" by Dr. Sanford Porter. In his book he writes about a man in his 60s who damaged his digestive system as a baby and is not able to eat any solid foods. He lives on raw milk alone. So it is not true that milk will give people some deficiencies. Raw milk is a complete food. Barbara I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email.chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Barbara, I have heard about the man who has lived on raw milk his whole life but not about the other one. Interesting, thanks!Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com Several years ago there was a man, member of this group who went on raw milk diet. He was on it for over two years and felt great. Nobody seems to remember him so I felt I had to write. Also, there is a book "The Milk Diet" by Dr. Sanford Porter. In his book he writes about a man in his 60s who damaged his digestive system as a baby and is not able to eat any solid foods. He lives on raw milk alone. So it is not true that milk will give people some deficiencies. Raw milk is a complete food. Barbara I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email.chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I’ve had blood sugar issues in the past that seem to be healed now, so I can’t say for sure how my body would have responded. However, I agree with you that there might be enough fat and protein to make this doable even with blood sugar issues. I used to have the reactive hypoglycemia thing going on myself. Are you willing to experiment with the raw milk to see? If that is doable for you, let us know how it goes. I’ve found blood sugar in my own life to seem more complicated and more factors involved than what some of what I’ve read seems to suggest. I’m very grateful to seem to be healed now.... On very rare occasions, not even once a month sometimes I still seem to have a tinge of something going on. But it is so rare compared to what it was. And I can definitely eat many things I didn’t used to be able to. chantelle I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Margie T Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com <http://www.lymesentinel.blogspot.com/> www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com <http://www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com/> Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I’ve had blood sugar issues in the past that seem to be healed now, so I can’t say for sure how my body would have responded. However, I agree with you that there might be enough fat and protein to make this doable even with blood sugar issues. I used to have the reactive hypoglycemia thing going on myself. Are you willing to experiment with the raw milk to see? If that is doable for you, let us know how it goes. I’ve found blood sugar in my own life to seem more complicated and more factors involved than what some of what I’ve read seems to suggest. I’m very grateful to seem to be healed now.... On very rare occasions, not even once a month sometimes I still seem to have a tinge of something going on. But it is so rare compared to what it was. And I can definitely eat many things I didn’t used to be able to. chantelle I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Margie T Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com <http://www.lymesentinel.blogspot.com/> www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com <http://www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com/> Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I’ve had blood sugar issues in the past that seem to be healed now, so I can’t say for sure how my body would have responded. However, I agree with you that there might be enough fat and protein to make this doable even with blood sugar issues. I used to have the reactive hypoglycemia thing going on myself. Are you willing to experiment with the raw milk to see? If that is doable for you, let us know how it goes. I’ve found blood sugar in my own life to seem more complicated and more factors involved than what some of what I’ve read seems to suggest. I’m very grateful to seem to be healed now.... On very rare occasions, not even once a month sometimes I still seem to have a tinge of something going on. But it is so rare compared to what it was. And I can definitely eat many things I didn’t used to be able to. chantelle I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Margie T Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com <http://www.lymesentinel.blogspot.com/> www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com <http://www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com/> Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Read " The Untold Story of Milk " by Ron Schmid. Excellent book, full of history about milk usage and treatment. There are, I think, two stories in there about people drinking nothing but raw milk for their entire lives after being injured by drinking lye as children. I also have a customer who is doing " the milk diet " right now, apparently consuming nothing but milk for at least the last 3 weeks. Says she feels terrific. I also hear Sally Fallon goes on a raw milk diet for a couple of weeks at a time to lose weight. Kathy Vimont Pasture Nectar Farm Missouri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Read " The Untold Story of Milk " by Ron Schmid. Excellent book, full of history about milk usage and treatment. There are, I think, two stories in there about people drinking nothing but raw milk for their entire lives after being injured by drinking lye as children. I also have a customer who is doing " the milk diet " right now, apparently consuming nothing but milk for at least the last 3 weeks. Says she feels terrific. I also hear Sally Fallon goes on a raw milk diet for a couple of weeks at a time to lose weight. Kathy Vimont Pasture Nectar Farm Missouri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Read " The Untold Story of Milk " by Ron Schmid. Excellent book, full of history about milk usage and treatment. There are, I think, two stories in there about people drinking nothing but raw milk for their entire lives after being injured by drinking lye as children. I also have a customer who is doing " the milk diet " right now, apparently consuming nothing but milk for at least the last 3 weeks. Says she feels terrific. I also hear Sally Fallon goes on a raw milk diet for a couple of weeks at a time to lose weight. Kathy Vimont Pasture Nectar Farm Missouri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 You are welcome Suriyah In fact, there are several more people who live on raw milk but I just listed that one in Iowa. And about our member on raw milk? I don't even know if he is still a member... Barbara Barbara, I have heard about the man who has lived on raw milk his whole life but not about the other one. Interesting, thanks! Suriyah ________ Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma, http://www.goodgoats.net Blog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 You are welcome Suriyah In fact, there are several more people who live on raw milk but I just listed that one in Iowa. And about our member on raw milk? I don't even know if he is still a member... Barbara Barbara, I have heard about the man who has lived on raw milk his whole life but not about the other one. Interesting, thanks! Suriyah ________ Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma, http://www.goodgoats.net Blog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I’ve heard milk helping diabetes issues. But all anectdotal so I don’t know for usre. -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:11:07 -0700 (PDT) To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I’ve heard milk helping diabetes issues. But all anectdotal so I don’t know for usre. -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:11:07 -0700 (PDT) To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I’ve heard milk helping diabetes issues. But all anectdotal so I don’t know for usre. -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:11:07 -0700 (PDT) To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Oooh now this I want to hear about. I will get the book. thanks -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:38:49 -0000 To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? I also hear Sally Fallon goes on a raw milk diet for a couple of weeks at a time to lose weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Oooh now this I want to hear about. I will get the book. thanks -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:38:49 -0000 To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? I also hear Sally Fallon goes on a raw milk diet for a couple of weeks at a time to lose weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 raw milk cures many diseases http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html it could help with wt. loss. High fat, low carb is good for wt. loss. I wouldn't worry about the fat in raw milk since it's the good kind of fat. here's how much fat is in raw milk http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/what_is_in_raw_milk.html > > I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. > Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but > late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of > breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till > noon and then realized I¹d not been all that bent out of shape like I > normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. > > then again it could be mind over matter... > > Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some > milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high > though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? > j > > > > > -- > www.goodnessgraciousacres.com > > Become a fan on FB > Delilah¹s Dairy Goat Milk Soap > http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 I lost weight on milk, and yes I frequently replace a lunch or breakfast with just milk, and must say am very very satisfied(hunger-wise) with it. Even with just a good gulp of just pure cream, heavenly!! I feel like my body was so satisfied with the raw milk that I had no other cravings and that is why I lost weight. No snacking. (Am very convinced that once our bodies are getting the nutrition they need it reduces cravings, I no longer would piece on this or that or overload with other foods trying to fill a need my body had) Vickie I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter...Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j-- www.goodnessgraciousacres.comBecome a fan on FBDelilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soaphttp://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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