Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Well, my Mom drinks raw (goat) milk as a meal all of the time. My dad also has a quart of milk every morning for breakfast, and a quart every evening (along with some dinner usually). And let me tell you - neither of them are even close to being overweight.Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Well, my Mom drinks raw (goat) milk as a meal all of the time. My dad also has a quart of milk every morning for breakfast, and a quart every evening (along with some dinner usually). And let me tell you - neither of them are even close to being overweight.Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Well, my Mom drinks raw (goat) milk as a meal all of the time. My dad also has a quart of milk every morning for breakfast, and a quart every evening (along with some dinner usually). And let me tell you - neither of them are even close to being overweight.Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 sure saves on dishes and food prep time Re: Milk as a meal? Well, my Mom drinks raw (goat) milk as a meal all of the time. My dad also has a quart of milk every morning for breakfast, and a quart every evening (along with some dinner usually). And let me tell you - neither of them are even close to being overweight. Suriyah ________ Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma, http://www.goodgoats.net Blog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter...Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j-- www.goodnessgraciousacres.comBecome a fan on FBDelilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soaphttp://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 sure saves on dishes and food prep time Re: Milk as a meal? Well, my Mom drinks raw (goat) milk as a meal all of the time. My dad also has a quart of milk every morning for breakfast, and a quart every evening (along with some dinner usually). And let me tell you - neither of them are even close to being overweight. Suriyah ________ Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma, http://www.goodgoats.net Blog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter...Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j-- www.goodnessgraciousacres.comBecome a fan on FBDelilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soaphttp://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day "milk fast" and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. I also drink milk as an energy boost like after a long work day to get energized for the evening milking or returning home after a long car drive. I find the boost to be a more full-body boost than a cup of coffee that basically gives the brain a kick in the ass. It's also true, and I know some of us milk lovers can't understand this, but there are a lot of folks who just don't like to drink milk. Many eat dairy, they just don't like it in that form. Since childhood I have always loved downing large amounts of milk, but not everyone is like me. I kinda feel sorry for those folks. Maybe there's some form of therapy for them ;-) I think doing a few 10-14-day raw milk fasts each year would be a good thing to incorporate into one's life. I also think folks should do more active, scientific research into the "milk cure" that I read about in "The Untold Story of Milk" and elsewhere-- makes so much sense. Chrys Chrys Ostrander, Director of Farming Programs p.e.a.c.h. Community Farms and Gardens People for Environmental Action and Community Health p.e.a.c.h. Community Farm at Pine Meadow 10425 S. Andrus Rd. Cheney, Wa 99004 chrys@... www.peachlocal.com "Our Fresh Future for Spokane" Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3043 - Release Date: 07/31/10 23:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day "milk fast" and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. I also drink milk as an energy boost like after a long work day to get energized for the evening milking or returning home after a long car drive. I find the boost to be a more full-body boost than a cup of coffee that basically gives the brain a kick in the ass. It's also true, and I know some of us milk lovers can't understand this, but there are a lot of folks who just don't like to drink milk. Many eat dairy, they just don't like it in that form. Since childhood I have always loved downing large amounts of milk, but not everyone is like me. I kinda feel sorry for those folks. Maybe there's some form of therapy for them ;-) I think doing a few 10-14-day raw milk fasts each year would be a good thing to incorporate into one's life. I also think folks should do more active, scientific research into the "milk cure" that I read about in "The Untold Story of Milk" and elsewhere-- makes so much sense. Chrys Chrys Ostrander, Director of Farming Programs p.e.a.c.h. Community Farms and Gardens People for Environmental Action and Community Health p.e.a.c.h. Community Farm at Pine Meadow 10425 S. Andrus Rd. Cheney, Wa 99004 chrys@... www.peachlocal.com "Our Fresh Future for Spokane" Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3043 - Release Date: 07/31/10 23:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day "milk fast" and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. I also drink milk as an energy boost like after a long work day to get energized for the evening milking or returning home after a long car drive. I find the boost to be a more full-body boost than a cup of coffee that basically gives the brain a kick in the ass. It's also true, and I know some of us milk lovers can't understand this, but there are a lot of folks who just don't like to drink milk. Many eat dairy, they just don't like it in that form. Since childhood I have always loved downing large amounts of milk, but not everyone is like me. I kinda feel sorry for those folks. Maybe there's some form of therapy for them ;-) I think doing a few 10-14-day raw milk fasts each year would be a good thing to incorporate into one's life. I also think folks should do more active, scientific research into the "milk cure" that I read about in "The Untold Story of Milk" and elsewhere-- makes so much sense. Chrys Chrys Ostrander, Director of Farming Programs p.e.a.c.h. Community Farms and Gardens People for Environmental Action and Community Health p.e.a.c.h. Community Farm at Pine Meadow 10425 S. Andrus Rd. Cheney, Wa 99004 chrys@... www.peachlocal.com "Our Fresh Future for Spokane" Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3043 - Release Date: 07/31/10 23:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Cool. Thanks for the information. I will likely never go on a fast. But I do (now that you mention it) feel a boost after a glass or two. When I was younger the ONLY thing I would drink for that hangover blah was a middle of the night raid the fridge and down the milk. jo -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:38:24 -0700 To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day " milk fast " and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Cool. Thanks for the information. I will likely never go on a fast. But I do (now that you mention it) feel a boost after a glass or two. When I was younger the ONLY thing I would drink for that hangover blah was a middle of the night raid the fridge and down the milk. jo -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:38:24 -0700 To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day " milk fast " and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Cool. Thanks for the information. I will likely never go on a fast. But I do (now that you mention it) feel a boost after a glass or two. When I was younger the ONLY thing I would drink for that hangover blah was a middle of the night raid the fridge and down the milk. jo -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 06:38:24 -0700 To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day " milk fast " and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 A diet of only raw milk would be deficient in some important nutrients, but certainly would not be life threatening for a short time. The fat content is part of what satisfies for such a long time and healthy fats are far better for you than processed carbs. Weight gain (or loss) would depend more on what you consumed apart from the raw milk than the raw milk itself. The amount of fat in milk depends on the cow (or goat) as each is different. Government standards say 4-4.5% fat for cow’s milk, if I recall correctly. My thoughts are that raw milk is not just something that we enjoy, it is an important part of our nutrition. I am pregnant with our 11 baby and rely on raw milk and raw milk products for a significant portion of our nutrition. I add lots of raw fruits and veggies, some grass fed beef, free range poultry, and fresh fish as it is available, and a few properly prepared beans, nuts, and grains. That’s it. Really healthy does NOT have to be really time consuming. Enjoy your raw milk with a piece of fruit, veggies, or a healthy grain and enjoy the time that you don’t have to spend preparing a “meal” and washing dishes J Blessings – Connie http://theprairiemom.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 A diet of only raw milk would be deficient in some important nutrients, but certainly would not be life threatening for a short time. The fat content is part of what satisfies for such a long time and healthy fats are far better for you than processed carbs. Weight gain (or loss) would depend more on what you consumed apart from the raw milk than the raw milk itself. The amount of fat in milk depends on the cow (or goat) as each is different. Government standards say 4-4.5% fat for cow’s milk, if I recall correctly. My thoughts are that raw milk is not just something that we enjoy, it is an important part of our nutrition. I am pregnant with our 11 baby and rely on raw milk and raw milk products for a significant portion of our nutrition. I add lots of raw fruits and veggies, some grass fed beef, free range poultry, and fresh fish as it is available, and a few properly prepared beans, nuts, and grains. That’s it. Really healthy does NOT have to be really time consuming. Enjoy your raw milk with a piece of fruit, veggies, or a healthy grain and enjoy the time that you don’t have to spend preparing a “meal” and washing dishes J Blessings – Connie http://theprairiemom.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Store "MILK" not reduced or non fat is around 3.25-3.5 BF in most states but thats dead P & H vit D crap not REAL MILKTo: RawDairy From: broodofburts@...Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 09:02:09 -0500Subject: RE: Milk as a meal? A diet of only raw milk would be deficient in some important nutrients, but certainly would not be life threatening for a short time. The fat content is part of what satisfies for such a long time and healthy fats are far better for you than processed carbs. Weight gain (or loss) would depend more on what you consumed apart from the raw milk than the raw milk itself. The amount of fat in milk depends on the cow (or goat) as each is different. Government standards say 4-4.5% fat for cow’s milk, if I recall correctly. My thoughts are that raw milk is not just something that we enjoy, it is an important part of our nutrition. I am pregnant with our 11 baby and rely on raw milk and raw milk products for a significant portion of our nutrition. I add lots of raw fruits and veggies, some grass fed beef, free range poultry, and fresh fish as it is available, and a few properly prepared beans, nuts, and grains. That’s it. Really healthy does NOT have to be really time consuming. Enjoy your raw milk with a piece of fruit, veggies, or a healthy grain and enjoy the time that you don’t have to spend preparing a “meal” and washing dishes J Blessings – Connie http://theprairiemom.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Store "MILK" not reduced or non fat is around 3.25-3.5 BF in most states but thats dead P & H vit D crap not REAL MILKTo: RawDairy From: broodofburts@...Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 09:02:09 -0500Subject: RE: Milk as a meal? A diet of only raw milk would be deficient in some important nutrients, but certainly would not be life threatening for a short time. The fat content is part of what satisfies for such a long time and healthy fats are far better for you than processed carbs. Weight gain (or loss) would depend more on what you consumed apart from the raw milk than the raw milk itself. The amount of fat in milk depends on the cow (or goat) as each is different. Government standards say 4-4.5% fat for cow’s milk, if I recall correctly. My thoughts are that raw milk is not just something that we enjoy, it is an important part of our nutrition. I am pregnant with our 11 baby and rely on raw milk and raw milk products for a significant portion of our nutrition. I add lots of raw fruits and veggies, some grass fed beef, free range poultry, and fresh fish as it is available, and a few properly prepared beans, nuts, and grains. That’s it. Really healthy does NOT have to be really time consuming. Enjoy your raw milk with a piece of fruit, veggies, or a healthy grain and enjoy the time that you don’t have to spend preparing a “meal” and washing dishes J Blessings – Connie http://theprairiemom.com I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email. chantelle Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day " milk fast " and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. I also drink milk as an energy boost like after a long work day to get energized for the evening milking or returning home after a long car drive. I find the boost to be a more full-body boost than a cup of coffee that basically gives the brain a kick in the ass. It's also true, and I know some of us milk lovers can't understand this, but there are a lot of folks who just don't like to drink milk. Many eat dairy, they just don't like it in that form. Since childhood I have always loved downing large amounts of milk, but not everyone is like me. I kinda feel sorry for those folks. Maybe there's some form of therapy for them ;-) I think doing a few 10-14-day raw milk fasts each year would be a good thing to incorporate into one's life. I also think folks should do more active, scientific research into the " milk cure " that I read about in " The Untold Story of Milk " and elsewhere-- makes so much sense. Chrys Chrys Ostrander, Director of Farming Programs p.e.a.c.h. Community Farms and Gardens People for Environmental Action and Community Health p.e.a.c.h. Community Farm at Pine Meadow 10425 S. Andrus Rd. Cheney, Wa 99004 chrys@... www.peachlocal.com <http://www.peachlocal.com> " Our Fresh Future for Spokane " Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email. chantelle Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day " milk fast " and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. I also drink milk as an energy boost like after a long work day to get energized for the evening milking or returning home after a long car drive. I find the boost to be a more full-body boost than a cup of coffee that basically gives the brain a kick in the ass. It's also true, and I know some of us milk lovers can't understand this, but there are a lot of folks who just don't like to drink milk. Many eat dairy, they just don't like it in that form. Since childhood I have always loved downing large amounts of milk, but not everyone is like me. I kinda feel sorry for those folks. Maybe there's some form of therapy for them ;-) I think doing a few 10-14-day raw milk fasts each year would be a good thing to incorporate into one's life. I also think folks should do more active, scientific research into the " milk cure " that I read about in " The Untold Story of Milk " and elsewhere-- makes so much sense. Chrys Chrys Ostrander, Director of Farming Programs p.e.a.c.h. Community Farms and Gardens People for Environmental Action and Community Health p.e.a.c.h. Community Farm at Pine Meadow 10425 S. Andrus Rd. Cheney, Wa 99004 chrys@... www.peachlocal.com <http://www.peachlocal.com> " Our Fresh Future for Spokane " Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email. chantelle Raw milk as a meal? I do this routinely. There is so much food value in raw milk (I raise goats), especially when the dairy animal has a good diet. I recently did a ten-day " milk fast " and did not suffer hunger pangs. I drank as much milk as I wanted. Full disclosure: I'm also a coffee lover (addict) and I didn't give that up during the fast. I didn't think it would be beneficial to be suffering from caffeine withdrawals during my fast. Towards the end I did feel a need to actually chew something, but my energy level did not wane (I'm a farmer). I also think it was very soothing and cleansing for my digestive tract. I drink a lot of milk and if I have just a few extra pounds, it's due to a bit of a sweet tooth I have. I don't think whole raw goat milk causes weight gain. For a while when I didn't have goats, I obtained raw cow's milk from a cow-share and I didn't experience weight gain from drinking lots of it either. Of course, the key is having routine activity in one's life. We did not evolve by sitting on couches. I also drink milk as an energy boost like after a long work day to get energized for the evening milking or returning home after a long car drive. I find the boost to be a more full-body boost than a cup of coffee that basically gives the brain a kick in the ass. It's also true, and I know some of us milk lovers can't understand this, but there are a lot of folks who just don't like to drink milk. Many eat dairy, they just don't like it in that form. Since childhood I have always loved downing large amounts of milk, but not everyone is like me. I kinda feel sorry for those folks. Maybe there's some form of therapy for them ;-) I think doing a few 10-14-day raw milk fasts each year would be a good thing to incorporate into one's life. I also think folks should do more active, scientific research into the " milk cure " that I read about in " The Untold Story of Milk " and elsewhere-- makes so much sense. Chrys Chrys Ostrander, Director of Farming Programs p.e.a.c.h. Community Farms and Gardens People for Environmental Action and Community Health p.e.a.c.h. Community Farm at Pine Meadow 10425 S. Andrus Rd. Cheney, Wa 99004 chrys@... www.peachlocal.com <http://www.peachlocal.com> " Our Fresh Future for Spokane " Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Several years ago there was a man, member of this group who went on raw milk diet. He was on it for over two years and felt great. Nobody seems to remember him so I felt I had to write. Also, there is a book "The Milk Diet" by Dr. Sanford Porter. In his book he writes about a man in his 60s who damaged his digestive system as a baby and is not able to eat any solid foods. He lives on raw milk alone. So it is not true that milk will give people some deficiencies. Raw milk is a complete food. Barbara I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email.chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Several years ago there was a man, member of this group who went on raw milk diet. He was on it for over two years and felt great. Nobody seems to remember him so I felt I had to write. Also, there is a book "The Milk Diet" by Dr. Sanford Porter. In his book he writes about a man in his 60s who damaged his digestive system as a baby and is not able to eat any solid foods. He lives on raw milk alone. So it is not true that milk will give people some deficiencies. Raw milk is a complete food. Barbara I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email.chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Twice now this weekend I opted for milk for dinner. I woke up better. I’ve been milking goats for 4 years now but never thought to try all these little milk “does a body good” tests. My only thought to it being a complete food is that it has to be lacking in things that chloryphyl type plants provide. As well as proteins from red meats. Etc. but I’m no nutritionist. Raw milk needs additions to it for baby formula as its lacking in something for the child. Can’t remember what it is. -- www.goodnessgraciousacres.com Become a fan on FB Delilah’s Dairy Goat Milk Soap http://tinyurl.com/yzbq5j8 Reply-To: " RawDairy " <RawDairy > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:58:49 -0400 To: <RawDairy > Subject: Re: Milk as a meal? Several years ago there was a man, member of this group who went on raw milk diet. He was on it for over two years and felt great. Nobody seems to remember him so I felt I had to write. Also, there is a book " The Milk Diet " by Dr. Sanford Porter. In his book he writes about a man in his 60s who damaged his digestive system as a baby and is not able to eat any solid foods. He lives on raw milk alone. So it is not true that milk will give people some deficiencies. Raw milk is a complete food. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Margie T Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Margie T Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I often would love to just have raw milk say...for lunch. Sometimes I do have kefir that I have made... for lunch and that will be all. However, I seem to have some blood sugar issues. I was tested years ago for hypoglycemia(when I was very sick with Lyme) and the verdict was that I had reactive hypoglycemia. Since I have been treating my chronic lyme and eating better (still some bad habits) I seem to be better. I am concerned about the milk sugar in the milk causing problems and feel as if I should be combining the milk with other protein. I have heard some raw milk advocates say that you should cut out raw milk if you have blood sugar issues but I am not sure that I want to believe that. It would seem that if the milk has high fat content...that that would conteract the lactose. Does anyone have any comments on this.? Margie T Marjorie Tietjen www.LymeSentinel.blogspot.com www.foodfreedomrevolution.blogspot.com Milk as a meal? I saw the video on max kane doing nothing but drinking raw milk for 44 days. Hmmm. I thought seriously can you do that? So the other morning starving but late for a meeting I downed almost a quart of yummy goat milk instead of breakfast. And I literally forgot I was starving, sat in the meeting till noon and then realized I’d not been all that bent out of shape like I normally would, cranky, not paying attention, etc. then again it could be mind over matter... Taking this a bit further. I wonder if skipping a meal and drinking some milk would help one lose weight? Or gain? Since raw is high in fat how high though? Anyone have answers to this? Or thoughts? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Barbara, I have heard about the man who has lived on raw milk his whole life but not about the other one. Interesting, thanks!Suriyah ________Good Goats ~ Mini Nubian Dairy & Meat Goats in NE Oklahoma,http://www.goodgoats.netBlog - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com Several years ago there was a man, member of this group who went on raw milk diet. He was on it for over two years and felt great. Nobody seems to remember him so I felt I had to write. Also, there is a book "The Milk Diet" by Dr. Sanford Porter. In his book he writes about a man in his 60s who damaged his digestive system as a baby and is not able to eat any solid foods. He lives on raw milk alone. So it is not true that milk will give people some deficiencies. Raw milk is a complete food. Barbara I also do this routinely. There are days when I’m drawn to just consume only raw milk for the day. So this was a super interesting thread to me, and I plan to check out several of the things mentioned in more depth I too feel like it helps in weight control. I am of the Eat Fat Lose Fat/ Sally Fallon, Enig mindset, and I have known people to eat 60-70% fat in their diet to lose weight and maintain weight loss, so I thought I would throw that in for the person who wrote wondering about fat.... (in other words, they try to have 60-70% of their intake coming from fat, with the next percent coming from protein and the smallest percent coming from carbs). It would be interesting (and totally easy to calculate I think) to see if one just drinks milk in a day, what the carb/fat/protein percentages come out to be. I suspect the carb/protein percents will be higher than on a day of eating other fat /protein sources. Just didn’t want to stop to calculate it before sending this email.chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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