oprah

[Guest guest]

The parents on the tort group are also sending emails.

Taryn and

Indiana

OPRAH

Oprah Winfrey hopefully is receiving emails from each and every one of you. We need to do what ever we can to prevent this from affecting other children and their families. I encourage each and everyone of you to please contact her with your story at her website.Oprah.com.The moment we accept plagiocephaly the moment we have admitted defeat. Remember, we are the fortunate one's who were referred for and received treatment. I can guarantee you all that there are many children who are not being treated. This is almost criminal. It is our duty to do whatever we can to try and prevent plagiocephaly and its effects, both known and unnkown.Please take the time to email her, talk to any reporter , any Government official, the next generation of children will applaud your efforts. Let's not let our children end up being statistics.Children matter. Let's work together to get this done.Oprah Winfrey's stage would be the ultimate avenue. If we don't end up with an hour , 1/2 hour or a 10 minute interview. Even if we don't end up on the show that is not important. The fact that is important is we "tried". I would be satisfied just to hear Oprah say the word "Plagiocephaly" that alone would give validity........Sure Plagiocephaly is not deadly, however, who can put a price on someone'e self esteem due to the possible deformations caused by this condition. I was not prepared to tell my son that he had a deformity from sleeping on his back. Please email Oprah.....everyone.......numbers count..>!!!!!!Plagiocephaly Matters, so do the kids, and so do the parents.....We deserve the respect.......All for now, The Sponagle's in CanadaP.S. If she can do a show about overweight people losing weight for not eating as much food, than I think she just might be interested in Plagiocephaly and all the contoversy that surrounds it.For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

I sent an email to Oprah last night as well. Hopefully it will have an affect.

in SW MissouriCaleb 2 1/2 and Lucas 1 year (starbanded 1st time 8/26/2 and banded 2nd time on 12/12/2)

OPRAH

Oprah Winfrey hopefully is receiving emails from each and every one of you. We need to do what ever we can to prevent this from affecting other children and their families. I encourage each and everyone of you to please contact her with your story at her website.Oprah.com.The moment we accept plagiocephaly the moment we have admitted defeat. Remember, we are the fortunate one's who were referred for and received treatment. I can guarantee you all that there are many children who are not being treated. This is almost criminal. It is our duty to do whatever we can to try and prevent plagiocephaly and its effects, both known and unnkown.Please take the time to email her, talk to any reporter , any Government official, the next generation of children will applaud your efforts. Let's not let our children end up being statistics.Children matter. Let's work together to get this done.Oprah Winfrey's stage would be the ultimate avenue. If we don't end up with an hour , 1/2 hour or a 10 minute interview. Even if we don't end up on the show that is not important. The fact that is important is we "tried". I would be satisfied just to hear Oprah say the word "Plagiocephaly" that alone would give validity........Sure Plagiocephaly is not deadly, however, who can put a price on someone'e self esteem due to the possible deformations caused by this condition. I was not prepared to tell my son that he had a deformity from sleeping on his back. Please email Oprah.....everyone.......numbers count..>!!!!!!Plagiocephaly Matters, so do the kids, and so do the parents.....We deserve the respect.......All for now, The Sponagle's in CanadaP.S. If she can do a show about overweight people losing weight for not eating as much food, than I think she just might be interested in Plagiocephaly and all the contoversy that surrounds it.For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Oh geez ....that sounded bad. I meant all our letters having an affect, not just mine. Sorry, didn't mean to sound so snobbish.

in SW MissouriCaleb 2 1/2 and Lucas 1 year (starbanded 1st time 8/26/2 and banded 2nd time on 12/12/2)

OPRAH

Oprah Winfrey hopefully is receiving emails from each and every one of you. We need to do what ever we can to prevent this from affecting other children and their families. I encourage each and everyone of you to please contact her with your story at her website.Oprah.com.The moment we accept plagiocephaly the moment we have admitted defeat. Remember, we are the fortunate one's who were referred for and received treatment. I can guarantee you all that there are many children who are not being treated. This is almost criminal. It is our duty to do whatever we can to try and prevent plagiocephaly and its effects, both known and unnkown.Please take the time to email her, talk to any reporter , any Government official, the next generation of children will applaud your efforts. Let's not let our children end up being statistics.Children matter. Let's work together to get this done.Oprah Winfrey's stage would be the ultimate avenue. If we don't end up with an hour , 1/2 hour or a 10 minute interview. Even if we don't end up on the show that is not important. The fact that is important is we "tried". I would be satisfied just to hear Oprah say the word "Plagiocephaly" that alone would give validity........Sure Plagiocephaly is not deadly, however, who can put a price on someone'e self esteem due to the possible deformations caused by this condition. I was not prepared to tell my son that he had a deformity from sleeping on his back. Please email Oprah.....everyone.......numbers count..>!!!!!!Plagiocephaly Matters, so do the kids, and so do the parents.....We deserve the respect.......All for now, The Sponagle's in CanadaP.S. If she can do a show about overweight people losing weight for not eating as much food, than I think she just might be interested in Plagiocephaly and all the contoversy that surrounds it.For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Count us

in…I sent one on Monday nightJ

& JD

TX

-----Original

Message-----

From: sponagle2003 <sponagle2003@...>

[mailto:sponagle2003@...]

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003

8:15 AM

Plagiocephaly

Subject: OPRAH

I hope I am not beating a dead horse here:

Please if you have not done so, could you please email Oprah.

Numbers count. Our untilmate goal would be to get plagiocephaly

addressed in some way. Either with plagio-kids as guests or just a

warning to new parents. Please. It can not hurt. Your email will be

read. They guarantee it.!!!!

Thanks again,

Jeff Sponagle, Plagio parent in Canada

Please even graduated parents can send an email. The idea here is

awareness. The producers have to realize the amount of people this

is affecting.

For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

I wrote Oprah a long time ago when my daughter first got her band and

I never got a response. I wrote to lots of people. The view ,

dateline etc. None gave me a response which really irritated me. But

I will send one again maybe if it comes in numbers they will pay

attention!

Christi

Mom to Mya (DOC grad)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lanham " <susan@l...>

wrote:

> Count us in.I sent one on Monday night:-)

>

> & JD

> TX

>

>

>

> OPRAH

>

> I hope I am not beating a dead horse here:

>

> Please if you have not done so, could you please email Oprah.

> Numbers count. Our untilmate goal would be to get plagiocephaly

> addressed in some way. Either with plagio-kids as guests or just a

> warning to new parents. Please. It can not hurt. Your email will be

> read. They guarantee it.!!!!

>

> Thanks again,

> Jeff Sponagle, Plagio parent in Canada

>

> Please even graduated parents can send an email. The idea here is

> awareness. The producers have to realize the amount of people this

> is affecting.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think this show is going to be about a woman who has had numerous surgeries. I'm not sure whether or not it was a positive or negative experience. We'll see.........

[Guest guest]

Dear Friend:

My opinion of Oprah is not very good. She did a show sometime ago on a makeover, she called the new ladies breast implants "Her Little Girls". Oprah had paid for this ladies makeover to save her marriage...I think. I have not watched her show for a long time; however, I would be willing to give her another chance. I have written to her over the years, but just got a written note that they had received my letter.

Should we all write to her again?

Love...Lea

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Oprah

I read where Oprah is doing a show on plastic surgery - Monday, February 7th.....this shall be interesting! Hope it's on the 'negatives!!' Does anyone know anything about the content?

[Guest guest]

Dear Lea,

I have been disappointed in Oprah's shows at times, as well. However,

she does have a huge audience of women and an educational show about

what has been found on explant would be tremendous in getting this

information to women -- those who may consider implants one day,

those who may know someone considering implants one day, those who

have implants, and those who are sick and have implants. Lea, you

have a wonderful way of writing to the point and informative and yet

sounding so nurturing and caring and loving and I urge you to write

or contact Oprah's people again.

Lots of love,

Rochelle

> Dear Friend:

>

> My opinion of Oprah is not very good. She did a show sometime ago

on a makeover, she called the new ladies breast implants " Her Little

Girls " . Oprah had paid for this ladies makeover to save her

marriage...I think. I have not watched her show for a long time;

however, I would be willing to give her another chance. I have

written to her over the years, but just got a written note that they

had received my letter.

>

> Should we all write to her again?

>

> Love...Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````````

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````

>

>

> Oprah

>

>

> I read where Oprah is doing a show on plastic surgery - Monday,

February 7th.....this shall be interesting! Hope it's on

the 'negatives!!' Does anyone know anything about the content?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The show is starting in 15min over here

> Did anyone see her show today? I have a feeling she'll do more

shows on

> plastic surgery. She seemed to be 'shocked' by these ladies and

how addicted to

> it they are. I wish she had touched more on the health and risks

of having

> surgery -- but that will come, I'm sure. Progress.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Your idea to write Oprah is a great one. I wonder if Dr. Melmed in Dallas would agree to be on the show as well. I know he has explanted a few people here and even took the time to write me back when I wrote him about implant safety. I read that he refuses to implant any woman. Sounds like a perfect guest!

Kenda

What a beautiful post you have written!! I can guarantee you if I

had read your post before I got implants, I never would have done

it. I am so sorry for all your problems. I feel especially bad

that so many really young ladies like you are getting implants and

getting sick before they even get married or have families. At

least I was in my late thirties before I started getting sick. I

had the support of my husband and my children when I got them out.

My heart goes out to you and all the others like you. But you will

get the word out. Maybe like Kacey, or others, you will become a

spokesperson or get on tv, etc to get the word out. May is almost

here and then you can get those horrid things out of you and start

down your road to recovery!

I was thinking the other night that we all need to write oprah

winfrey. I know she hasn't responded to some of us in the past, but

maybe if we could all deluge her with letters---especially you

younger ones--maybe someday she would listen and do a show. She has

such a huge following. Heck, if she can tell the truth about the

cattle industry, why can't she help her fellow women out here? I

know I am going to write her. As more and more of us get sick and

find out why, we will reach more and more people out there and

hopefully someday the tide will turn on the popularity of implants.

Keep posting, we love hearing from you.

Hugs

kathy

--- In , " lolosky2 " <lolosky2@y...>

wrote:

>

> Dear new members,

> I'm only 21 years old, I've had my implants less than 2 years and

> take my advice, do not get them. I am not out to tell people what

> choices to make and am not usually an opinionated person what so

> ever. Never would I spend the time to write this unless I thought

> maybe if you heard my story it would change one of your minds and

> possibly save one person's health from turning into what mine is.

> I got into a hit and run accident while walking home at age 18

and

> it left me with a lot of scars and body issues. I was finally

> feeling better months later and fully recovered health wise, but

> mentally I was very depressed and had post-traumatic stress

> disorder. So in my parents' attempt to make me feel better about

my

> body they told me they'd do or pay for anything. I had always

felt

> awkward about my A cup boobs, I was always a pretty self-consious

> person and until my late teens looked pretty gangly. So I

actually

> went through with it and got a breast augmentation.

> At first they looked good, and actually did help a little with my

> self esteem. I got on the birth control pill as well as started

> eating more. Suddenly I felt self consious about my chest more

than

> I ever did before because I gained just a little weight and they

> went from a full B/small C to a big C/small D. People were

> commenting on how huge my boobs were, and again I didn't show any

> clevage because they started to look fake and like the fake balls

> that they are. They even felt a little heavy and started getting

> more achy. I regretting getting them a little but I wasn't about

to

> tell my parents I wanted them out after all that money they had

just

> spent on me to make me happy, so I figured in a couple of years if

> they still felt fake me and I still felt awkward about having such

> large boobs on a skinny body to explant when I had the money after

> graduating from school.

> I started noticing about 2 months after my implantation that my

> breasts had sharp pains in them. My doctor said they were probably

> still " settling " and it only happened occasionally so I dismissed

> it. Soon, I had shooting pains up my arms. I thought I had been

> using the computer too much and completely unconnected it to the

> implants. The arm pain turned into wrist pain, and then crippling

> pain in my hands. The doctors had no idea what was wrong since I

> tested negative for carpal tunnel as well as rheumatory arthritis,

> and I'm too young to have osteoarthritis becasue I have never

broke

> or strained my wrists and hands too much. I have lived with that

> pain for about 18 months when suddenly it seemed to have gone

away.

> A few weeks after it went away I started noticing aches in all of

my

> joints. Horrible aches like pins and needles. It was horrible,

and

> I was convinced I had some disease but again I tested negative for

> rheumatory arthritis and all other tests were negative. I saw on

> MTV Kacey Long's story about her implants and it clicked in that

> they could be the culprit.

> In just the past 3 months I have begun to get additional

symptoms,

> pains in my spine, muscles, joints, muscle twitches everywhere

that

> are very frighetening, and worse yet brain fog. I used to be a

very

> articulate writer and now I'll be trying to write a midterm and I

> can't think of the word I want and my head feels like I have

someone

> squeezing it. All my symptoms come and go at different times, but

I

> know it all started with shooting pains in my breasts. A girl

knows

> these things about her body and I can just feel it literally and

> figuratively that it stems from my chest.

> I can't explant until late May when I'm out of school because I

> can't miss any classes and I am SO anxious and miserable. Some

days

> my life feels like hell, I feel like I'm 90 years old, other days

> are better. I felt so hopeless but these women on this site who

> have recovered give me hope. They don't know how they've been

> angels to me and feel I found this site for a reason, because fate

> wanted to lead me towards my key to good health. And I am so

> grateful for Peggy who made this site because without it I would

> still be oblivious to what my health issues were from. I hope I

can

> inspire just one of you to reconsider.

> Although all my doctors have told me they doubt it is related, my

> plastic surgeon has told me that it may be worth a shot to take

them

> out. He told me he can remember 2 times when women had similar

> symptoms that were dismissed as Fibromyalgia (which is a diagnosis

> for someone who has a ton of weird symptoms and tests negative for

> everything else), but these 2 women whose doctors thought they had

> fibromyalgia didn't care what the doctor thought because they

hated

> their implants and the way they made them feel and got explanted

> anyways. He said those specific women came back and let him know

> they felt SO much better, but he said there were many cases where

> women just happened to get diseases while having the implants so

> getting them out wouldn't cure anything if this is the case. The

> trouble with studies is no hard proof that in some cases women do

> get sick in several ways, because many symptoms that are aquired

are

> not able to be tested for in blood tests (such as aches and pains)

> and if you read through the stories you will see that so many do.

> It makes me so sad that many women are oblivious the implants are

> the reason for their health problems and live with the poision to

> their bodies just sitting there as lumps in their chest. I KNOW

> it's my body freaking out from the silicone lining of the saline

> implant because I have read through ALL the message board and I

read

> through several women with the SAME exact symptoms. In my ears I

> can't wear anything but gold because my body freaks out and my

> earlobe becomes infected from many metals, and the silicone shell

is

> made from many similar chemcials.

> I was finally healthy and living my life how I wanted and then

this

> nightmare came from getting these implants. Many of our bodies

are

> having a reaction, and if you are considering implants, I don't

know

> if you will get sick, I know many women obviously don't. If you do

> decide to go through with it I wish you luck but if you were my

> friend I would plead for you not to on hands and knees if I had

to.

> But eventually many do get sick, and because of the wide array of

> symptoms, they may not even make the connection. Any type of

> irritation my body has currently I account totally to the

implants,

> and with them you will never know if that is the reason you are

sick

> with anything. Every woman's body reacts differently with them,

> some well, some poorly (thousands more than actually know it), but

> it's completely unpredictable from person to person.

> Think about it like this- put 2 car tires into a woman's chest

and

> maybe some would be fine, but I don't think that I would, and even

> if right away I recovered from the inital shock of foreign objects

> in my chest, after years of those tires in my chest I might get a

> flat tire (leakage), or an infection around it I would imagine.

We

> all eventually need tires replaced no matter how expensive or

> durable they are. They don't last forever, and mice have died by

> eating the silicone shell. I feel sick thinking about all this

and

> I should really stop ranting because I am not trying to complain.

> I'm just trying to help and I'm sorry if I upset anyone. I am

> awaiting anxiously my explant so my health can start regaining

it's

> orginal state. I feel God picked me to react to them badly for a

> reason, as well as many of us I don't think they're right for

every

> body, and honestly now I don't think they're right for anybody.

> It's kind of like smoking, I know people who smoke for the quick

> buzz or gratification they get from it. But it takes a toll on

> their health, wallet, and eventually they will regret it when they

> are stuck with the habit (or in our case the implants), both which

> continue to make us feel worse.

> To the women on this support group, I want to let you know I feel

> we were chosen to read each other's messages for a reason. I have

> been tested by God or fate so many times in my life and I am so

> young, but feel I have had enough pain and life experience for 5

> lifetimes. I feel I have always had good intution and I beat up

> myself everyday about not following mine about my breasts,

> especially after the intial symptoms- I may have never developed

the

> more recent ones.

> I don't think God or whoever it is that watches over us wants us

to

> be miserable but he chooses for us to become stronger through

> situations and trials such as these. Maybe mother nature is

trying

> to tell us something. I try to remain positive as we all should

> because with time I have read so many women get better, almost

every

> woman explanted over time has been close to 100%. I am so

miserable

> I can't explain and there's no guarentee I will ever be 100% and I

> am in the prime of my life- I'm just a baby. Please don't do it

> because it is painful for me to see so many beautiful girls get

> them. I feel so naive and I was so uneducated what I was doing to

> my body.

> When I get them out my breasts will be saggier than before and

I'll

> still be so young with saggy breasts but I will love them how they

> are because I know I'll feel better. I think small breasts are

cute

> now, and I wish I could wear a little tank top like I used to and

> not feel like my boobs looked out of control, so I can't wait for

> that. My physical and mental health are in shambles but I do the

> best I can because I know in 2 months I will be there. The

> emergency room will seriously be like an oasis to me, I will be

more

> excited then scared. I NEVER in a million years would think I

would

> feel so strongly against my very nice looking rack right after I

got

> them, they aren't a quick fix, they aren't safe, I don't care what

> anybody ever says again, not even my plastic surgeon who went to

> Harvard Med School and is the head of plastic surgery in his

> department. He's an honest man and even he admitted to me that

> there are no guarentees someone wouldn't react negatively to them,

> that most research hasn't documented anything very profound but

not

> much testing has been done. And because a lot of times no blood

> tests or analysis can determine that diseses came and went because

> when we react to implants we don't get any cut and dry diseases we

> just get horrible reactions, so when they are resolved after

> explantation the doctors just have to take your word and sometimes

> think it is all psychological. All I know is that there are real

> women with real problems directly from saline breast implants.

> Don't make the mistake I did and dismiss the accusations that they

> make you sick because it's disputed by doctors. I did and I

regret

> it more than anything in my life, even more than someone driving

> into me with a car. Feel free to ask any questions or comment on

> the longest entry of all time(sorry!) I hope someone hears me.

> Thanks again for listening, Lo

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda

That would be a great idea! I wonder if he would however, he would

be really opening himself up to alot of problems. I know Dr. Feng

was practically roasted by other plastic surgeons for her stand on

breast implants causing harm. They brought her up before their

association and even accused her of telling women implants were

harmful so she could increase business with explants. Doctors who

take unpopular stands against what their peers do often get

crucified for it. But really, with all the MTV episodes airing, I

would think that Oprah might show some interest. Would the women

who were interviewed by MTV consider writing Oprah (again if have in

the past) and telling her about the MTV episodes? It is still worth

a try.

Hugs

kathy

> >> >

> >> > Dear new members,

> >> > I'm only 21 years old, I've had my implants less than 2 years

and

> >> > take my advice, do not get them. I am not out to tell people

what

> >> > choices to make and am not usually an opinionated person what

so

> >> > ever. Never would I spend the time to write this unless I

thought

> >> > maybe if you heard my story it would change one of your minds

and

> >> > possibly save one person's health from turning into what mine

is.

> >> > I got into a hit and run accident while walking home at age

18

> > and

> >> > it left me with a lot of scars and body issues. I was finally

> >> > feeling better months later and fully recovered health wise,

but

> >> > mentally I was very depressed and had post-traumatic stress

> >> > disorder. So in my parents' attempt to make me feel better

about

> > my

> >> > body they told me they'd do or pay for anything. I had always

> > felt

> >> > awkward about my A cup boobs, I was always a pretty self-

consious

> >> > person and until my late teens looked pretty gangly. So I

> > actually

> >> > went through with it and got a breast augmentation.

> >> > At first they looked good, and actually did help a little

with my

> >> > self esteem. I got on the birth control pill as well as

started

> >> > eating more. Suddenly I felt self consious about my chest more

> > than

> >> > I ever did before because I gained just a little weight and

they

> >> > went from a full B/small C to a big C/small D. People were

> >> > commenting on how huge my boobs were, and again I didn't show

any

> >> > clevage because they started to look fake and like the fake

balls

> >> > that they are. They even felt a little heavy and started

getting

> >> > more achy. I regretting getting them a little but I wasn't

about

> > to

> >> > tell my parents I wanted them out after all that money they

had

> > just

> >> > spent on me to make me happy, so I figured in a couple of

years if

> >> > they still felt fake me and I still felt awkward about having

such

> >> > large boobs on a skinny body to explant when I had the money

after

> >> > graduating from school.

> >> > I started noticing about 2 months after my implantation that

my

> >> > breasts had sharp pains in them. My doctor said they were

probably

> >> > still " settling " and it only happened occasionally so I

dismissed

> >> > it. Soon, I had shooting pains up my arms. I thought I had

been

> >> > using the computer too much and completely unconnected it to

the

> >> > implants. The arm pain turned into wrist pain, and then

crippling

> >> > pain in my hands. The doctors had no idea what was wrong

since I

> >> > tested negative for carpal tunnel as well as rheumatory

arthritis,

> >> > and I'm too young to have osteoarthritis becasue I have never

> > broke

> >> > or strained my wrists and hands too much. I have lived with

that

> >> > pain for about 18 months when suddenly it seemed to have gone

> > away.

> >> > A few weeks after it went away I started noticing aches in

all of

> > my

> >> > joints. Horrible aches like pins and needles. It was

horrible,

> > and

> >> > I was convinced I had some disease but again I tested

negative for

> >> > rheumatory arthritis and all other tests were negative. I

saw on

> >> > MTV Kacey Long's story about her implants and it clicked in

that

> >> > they could be the culprit.

> >> > In just the past 3 months I have begun to get additional

> > symptoms,

> >> > pains in my spine, muscles, joints, muscle twitches everywhere

> > that

> >> > are very frighetening, and worse yet brain fog. I used to be

a

> > very

> >> > articulate writer and now I'll be trying to write a midterm

and I

> >> > can't think of the word I want and my head feels like I have

> > someone

> >> > squeezing it. All my symptoms come and go at different

times, but

> > I

> >> > know it all started with shooting pains in my breasts. A girl

> > knows

> >> > these things about her body and I can just feel it literally

and

> >> > figuratively that it stems from my chest.

> >> > I can't explant until late May when I'm out of school

because I

> >> > can't miss any classes and I am SO anxious and miserable.

Some

> > days

> >> > my life feels like hell, I feel like I'm 90 years old, other

days

> >> > are better. I felt so hopeless but these women on this site

who

> >> > have recovered give me hope. They don't know how they've been

> >> > angels to me and feel I found this site for a reason, because

fate

> >> > wanted to lead me towards my key to good health. And I am so

> >> > grateful for Peggy who made this site because without it I

would

> >> > still be oblivious to what my health issues were from. I

hope I

> > can

> >> > inspire just one of you to reconsider.

> >> > Although all my doctors have told me they doubt it is

related, my

> >> > plastic surgeon has told me that it may be worth a shot to

take

> > them

> >> > out. He told me he can remember 2 times when women had

similar

> >> > symptoms that were dismissed as Fibromyalgia (which is a

diagnosis

> >> > for someone who has a ton of weird symptoms and tests

negative for

> >> > everything else), but these 2 women whose doctors thought

they had

> >> > fibromyalgia didn't care what the doctor thought because they

> > hated

> >> > their implants and the way they made them feel and got

explanted

> >> > anyways. He said those specific women came back and let him

know

> >> > they felt SO much better, but he said there were many cases

where

> >> > women just happened to get diseases while having the implants

so

> >> > getting them out wouldn't cure anything if this is the case.

The

> >> > trouble with studies is no hard proof that in some cases

women do

> >> > get sick in several ways, because many symptoms that are

aquired

> > are

> >> > not able to be tested for in blood tests (such as aches and

pains)

> >> > and if you read through the stories you will see that so many

do.

> >> > It makes me so sad that many women are oblivious the implants

are

> >> > the reason for their health problems and live with the

poision to

> >> > their bodies just sitting there as lumps in their chest. I

KNOW

> >> > it's my body freaking out from the silicone lining of the

saline

> >> > implant because I have read through ALL the message board and

I

> > read

> >> > through several women with the SAME exact symptoms. In my

ears I

> >> > can't wear anything but gold because my body freaks out and my

> >> > earlobe becomes infected from many metals, and the silicone

shell

> > is

> >> > made from many similar chemcials.

> >> > I was finally healthy and living my life how I wanted and

then

> > this

> >> > nightmare came from getting these implants. Many of our

bodies

> > are

> >> > having a reaction, and if you are considering implants, I

don't

> > know

> >> > if you will get sick, I know many women obviously don't. If

you do

> >> > decide to go through with it I wish you luck but if you were

my

> >> > friend I would plead for you not to on hands and knees if I

had

> > to.

> >> > But eventually many do get sick, and because of the wide

array of

> >> > symptoms, they may not even make the connection. Any type of

> >> > irritation my body has currently I account totally to the

> > implants,

> >> > and with them you will never know if that is the reason you

are

> > sick

> >> > with anything. Every woman's body reacts differently with

them,

> >> > some well, some poorly (thousands more than actually know

it), but

> >> > it's completely unpredictable from person to person.

> >> > Think about it like this- put 2 car tires into a woman's

chest

> > and

> >> > maybe some would be fine, but I don't think that I would, and

even

> >> > if right away I recovered from the inital shock of foreign

objects

> >> > in my chest, after years of those tires in my chest I might

get a

> >> > flat tire (leakage), or an infection around it I would

imagine.

> > We

> >> > all eventually need tires replaced no matter how expensive or

> >> > durable they are. They don't last forever, and mice have

died by

> >> > eating the silicone shell. I feel sick thinking about all

this

> > and

> >> > I should really stop ranting because I am not trying to

complain.

> >> > I'm just trying to help and I'm sorry if I upset anyone. I am

> >> > awaiting anxiously my explant so my health can start regaining

> > it's

> >> > orginal state. I feel God picked me to react to them badly

for a

> >> > reason, as well as many of us I don't think they're right for

> > every

> >> > body, and honestly now I don't think they're right for

anybody.

> >> > It's kind of like smoking, I know people who smoke for the

quick

> >> > buzz or gratification they get from it. But it takes a toll

on

> >> > their health, wallet, and eventually they will regret it when

they

> >> > are stuck with the habit (or in our case the implants), both

which

> >> > continue to make us feel worse.

> >> > To the women on this support group, I want to let you know I

feel

> >> > we were chosen to read each other's messages for a reason. I

have

> >> > been tested by God or fate so many times in my life and I am

so

> >> > young, but feel I have had enough pain and life experience

for 5

> >> > lifetimes. I feel I have always had good intution and I beat

up

> >> > myself everyday about not following mine about my breasts,

> >> > especially after the intial symptoms- I may have never

developed

> > the

> >> > more recent ones.

> >> > I don't think God or whoever it is that watches over us

wants us

> > to

> >> > be miserable but he chooses for us to become stronger through

> >> > situations and trials such as these. Maybe mother nature is

> > trying

> >> > to tell us something. I try to remain positive as we all

should

> >> > because with time I have read so many women get better, almost

> > every

> >> > woman explanted over time has been close to 100%. I am so

> > miserable

> >> > I can't explain and there's no guarentee I will ever be 100%

and I

> >> > am in the prime of my life- I'm just a baby. Please don't do

it

> >> > because it is painful for me to see so many beautiful girls

get

> >> > them. I feel so naive and I was so uneducated what I was

doing to

> >> > my body.

> >> > When I get them out my breasts will be saggier than before

and

> > I'll

> >> > still be so young with saggy breasts but I will love them how

they

> >> > are because I know I'll feel better. I think small breasts

are

> > cute

> >> > now, and I wish I could wear a little tank top like I used to

and

> >> > not feel like my boobs looked out of control, so I can't wait

for

> >> > that. My physical and mental health are in shambles but I do

the

> >> > best I can because I know in 2 months I will be there. The

> >> > emergency room will seriously be like an oasis to me, I will

be

> > more

> >> > excited then scared. I NEVER in a million years would think I

> > would

> >> > feel so strongly against my very nice looking rack right

after I

> > got

> >> > them, they aren't a quick fix, they aren't safe, I don't care

what

> >> > anybody ever says again, not even my plastic surgeon who went

to

> >> > Harvard Med School and is the head of plastic surgery in his

> >> > department. He's an honest man and even he admitted to me

that

> >> > there are no guarentees someone wouldn't react negatively to

them,

> >> > that most research hasn't documented anything very profound

but

> > not

> >> > much testing has been done. And because a lot of times no

blood

> >> > tests or analysis can determine that diseses came and went

because

> >> > when we react to implants we don't get any cut and dry

diseases we

> >> > just get horrible reactions, so when they are resolved after

> >> > explantation the doctors just have to take your word and

sometimes

> >> > think it is all psychological. All I know is that there are

real

> >> > women with real problems directly from saline breast implants.

> >> > Don't make the mistake I did and dismiss the accusations that

they

> >> > make you sick because it's disputed by doctors. I did and I

> > regret

> >> > it more than anything in my life, even more than someone

driving

> >> > into me with a car. Feel free to ask any questions or

comment on

> >> > the longest entry of all time(sorry!) I hope someone hears

me.

> >> > Thanks again for listening, Lo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Do you want me to email Dr. Melmed? He and I corresponded several times when I was considering implants.

Kenda

Kenda

That would be a great idea! I wonder if he would however, he would

be really opening himself up to alot of problems. I know Dr. Feng

was practically roasted by other plastic surgeons for her stand on

breast implants causing harm. They brought her up before their

association and even accused her of telling women implants were

harmful so she could increase business with explants. Doctors who

take unpopular stands against what their peers do often get

crucified for it. But really, with all the MTV episodes airing, I

would think that Oprah might show some interest. Would the women

who were interviewed by MTV consider writing Oprah (again if have in

the past) and telling her about the MTV episodes? It is still worth

a try.

Hugs

kathy

> >> >

> >> > Dear new members,

> >> > I'm only 21 years old, I've had my implants less than 2 years

and

> >> > take my advice, do not get them. I am not out to tell people

what

> >> > choices to make and am not usually an opinionated person what

so

> >> > ever. Never would I spend the time to write this unless I

thought

> >> > maybe if you heard my story it would change one of your minds

and

> >> > possibly save one person's health from turning into what mine

is.

> >> > I got into a hit and run accident while walking home at age

18

> > and

> >> > it left me with a lot of scars and body issues. I was finally

> >> > feeling better months later and fully recovered health wise,

but

> >> > mentally I was very depressed and had post-traumatic stress

> >> > disorder. So in my parents' attempt to make me feel better

about

> > my

> >> > body they told me they'd do or pay for anything. I had always

> > felt

> >> > awkward about my A cup boobs, I was always a pretty self-

consious

> >> > person and until my late teens looked pretty gangly. So I

> > actually

> >> > went through with it and got a breast augmentation.

> >> > At first they looked good, and actually did help a little

with my

> >> > self esteem. I got on the birth control pill as well as

started

> >> > eating more. Suddenly I felt self consious about my chest more

> > than

> >> > I ever did before because I gained just a little weight and

they

> >> > went from a full B/small C to a big C/small D. People were

> >> > commenting on how huge my boobs were, and again I didn't show

any

> >> > clevage because they started to look fake and like the fake

balls

> >> > that they are. They even felt a little heavy and started

getting

> >> > more achy. I regretting getting them a little but I wasn't

about

> > to

> >> > tell my parents I wanted them out after all that money they

had

> > just

> >> > spent on me to make me happy, so I figured in a couple of

years if

> >> > they still felt fake me and I still felt awkward about having

such

> >> > large boobs on a skinny body to explant when I had the money

after

> >> > graduating from school.

> >> > I started noticing about 2 months after my implantation that

my

> >> > breasts had sharp pains in them. My doctor said they were

probably

> >> > still " settling " and it only happened occasionally so I

dismissed

> >> > it. Soon, I had shooting pains up my arms. I thought I had

been

> >> > using the computer too much and completely unconnected it to

the

> >> > implants. The arm pain turned into wrist pain, and then

crippling

> >> > pain in my hands. The doctors had no idea what was wrong

since I

> >> > tested negative for carpal tunnel as well as rheumatory

arthritis,

> >> > and I'm too young to have osteoarthritis becasue I have never

> > broke

> >> > or strained my wrists and hands too much. I have lived with

that

> >> > pain for about 18 months when suddenly it seemed to have gone

> > away.

> >> > A few weeks after it went away I started noticing aches in

all of

> > my

> >> > joints. Horrible aches like pins and needles. It was

horrible,

> > and

> >> > I was convinced I had some disease but again I tested

negative for

> >> > rheumatory arthritis and all other tests were negative. I

saw on

> >> > MTV Kacey Long's story about her implants and it clicked in

that

> >> > they could be the culprit.

> >> > In just the past 3 months I have begun to get additional

> > symptoms,

> >> > pains in my spine, muscles, joints, muscle twitches everywhere

> > that

> >> > are very frighetening, and worse yet brain fog. I used to be

a

> > very

> >> > articulate writer and now I'll be trying to write a midterm

and I

> >> > can't think of the word I want and my head feels like I have

> > someone

> >> > squeezing it. All my symptoms come and go at different

times, but

> > I

> >> > know it all started with shooting pains in my breasts. A girl

> > knows

> >> > these things about her body and I can just feel it literally

and

> >> > figuratively that it stems from my chest.

> >> > I can't explant until late May when I'm out of school

because I

> >> > can't miss any classes and I am SO anxious and miserable.

Some

> > days

> >> > my life feels like hell, I feel like I'm 90 years old, other

days

> >> > are better. I felt so hopeless but these women on this site

who

> >> > have recovered give me hope. They don't know how they've been

> >> > angels to me and feel I found this site for a reason, because

fate

> >> > wanted to lead me towards my key to good health. And I am so

> >> > grateful for Peggy who made this site because without it I

would

> >> > still be oblivious to what my health issues were from. I

hope I

> > can

> >> > inspire just one of you to reconsider.

> >> > Although all my doctors have told me they doubt it is

related, my

> >> > plastic surgeon has told me that it may be worth a shot to

take

> > them

> >> > out. He told me he can remember 2 times when women had

similar

> >> > symptoms that were dismissed as Fibromyalgia (which is a

diagnosis

> >> > for someone who has a ton of weird symptoms and tests

negative for

> >> > everything else), but these 2 women whose doctors thought

they had

> >> > fibromyalgia didn't care what the doctor thought because they

> > hated

> >> > their implants and the way they made them feel and got

explanted

> >> > anyways. He said those specific women came back and let him

know

> >> > they felt SO much better, but he said there were many cases

where

> >> > women just happened to get diseases while having the implants

so

> >> > getting them out wouldn't cure anything if this is the case.

The

> >> > trouble with studies is no hard proof that in some cases

women do

> >> > get sick in several ways, because many symptoms that are

aquired

> > are

> >> > not able to be tested for in blood tests (such as aches and

pains)

> >> > and if you read through the stories you will see that so many

do.

> >> > It makes me so sad that many women are oblivious the implants

are

> >> > the reason for their health problems and live with the

poision to

> >> > their bodies just sitting there as lumps in their chest. I

KNOW

> >> > it's my body freaking out from the silicone lining of the

saline

> >> > implant because I have read through ALL the message board and

I

> > read

> >> > through several women with the SAME exact symptoms. In my

ears I

> >> > can't wear anything but gold because my body freaks out and my

> >> > earlobe becomes infected from many metals, and the silicone

shell

> > is

> >> > made from many similar chemcials.

> >> > I was finally healthy and living my life how I wanted and

then

> > this

> >> > nightmare came from getting these implants. Many of our

bodies

> > are

> >> > having a reaction, and if you are considering implants, I

don't

> > know

> >> > if you will get sick, I know many women obviously don't. If

you do

> >> > decide to go through with it I wish you luck but if you were

my

> >> > friend I would plead for you not to on hands and knees if I

had

> > to.

> >> > But eventually many do get sick, and because of the wide

array of

> >> > symptoms, they may not even make the connection. Any type of

> >> > irritation my body has currently I account totally to the

> > implants,

> >> > and with them you will never know if that is the reason you

are

> > sick

> >> > with anything. Every woman's body reacts differently with

them,

> >> > some well, some poorly (thousands more than actually know

it), but

> >> > it's completely unpredictable from person to person.

> >> > Think about it like this- put 2 car tires into a woman's

chest

> > and

> >> > maybe some would be fine, but I don't think that I would, and

even

> >> > if right away I recovered from the inital shock of foreign

objects

> >> > in my chest, after years of those tires in my chest I might

get a

> >> > flat tire (leakage), or an infection around it I would

imagine.

> > We

> >> > all eventually need tires replaced no matter how expensive or

> >> > durable they are. They don't last forever, and mice have

died by

> >> > eating the silicone shell. I feel sick thinking about all

this

> > and

> >> > I should really stop ranting because I am not trying to

complain.

> >> > I'm just trying to help and I'm sorry if I upset anyone. I am

> >> > awaiting anxiously my explant so my health can start regaining

> > it's

> >> > orginal state. I feel God picked me to react to them badly

for a

> >> > reason, as well as many of us I don't think they're right for

> > every

> >> > body, and honestly now I don't think they're right for

anybody.

> >> > It's kind of like smoking, I know people who smoke for the

quick

> >> > buzz or gratification they get from it. But it takes a toll

on

> >> > their health, wallet, and eventually they will regret it when

they

> >> > are stuck with the habit (or in our case the implants), both

which

> >> > continue to make us feel worse.

> >> > To the women on this support group, I want to let you know I

feel

> >> > we were chosen to read each other's messages for a reason. I

have

> >> > been tested by God or fate so many times in my life and I am

so

> >> > young, but feel I have had enough pain and life experience

for 5

> >> > lifetimes. I feel I have always had good intution and I beat

up

> >> > myself everyday about not following mine about my breasts,

> >> > especially after the intial symptoms- I may have never

developed

> > the

> >> > more recent ones.

> >> > I don't think God or whoever it is that watches over us

wants us

> > to

> >> > be miserable but he chooses for us to become stronger through

> >> > situations and trials such as these. Maybe mother nature is

> > trying

> >> > to tell us something. I try to remain positive as we all

should

> >> > because with time I have read so many women get better, almost

> > every

> >> > woman explanted over time has been close to 100%. I am so

> > miserable

> >> > I can't explain and there's no guarentee I will ever be 100%

and I

> >> > am in the prime of my life- I'm just a baby. Please don't do

it

> >> > because it is painful for me to see so many beautiful girls

get

> >> > them. I feel so naive and I was so uneducated what I was

doing to

> >> > my body.

> >> > When I get them out my breasts will be saggier than before

and

> > I'll

> >> > still be so young with saggy breasts but I will love them how

they

> >> > are because I know I'll feel better. I think small breasts

are

> > cute

> >> > now, and I wish I could wear a little tank top like I used to

and

> >> > not feel like my boobs looked out of control, so I can't wait

for

> >> > that. My physical and mental health are in shambles but I do

the

> >> > best I can because I know in 2 months I will be there. The

> >> > emergency room will seriously be like an oasis to me, I will

be

> > more

> >> > excited then scared. I NEVER in a million years would think I

> > would

> >> > feel so strongly against my very nice looking rack right

after I

> > got

> >> > them, they aren't a quick fix, they aren't safe, I don't care

what

> >> > anybody ever says again, not even my plastic surgeon who went

to

> >> > Harvard Med School and is the head of plastic surgery in his

> >> > department. He's an honest man and even he admitted to me

that

> >> > there are no guarentees someone wouldn't react negatively to

them,

> >> > that most research hasn't documented anything very profound

but

> > not

> >> > much testing has been done. And because a lot of times no

blood

> >> > tests or analysis can determine that diseses came and went

because

> >> > when we react to implants we don't get any cut and dry

diseases we

> >> > just get horrible reactions, so when they are resolved after

> >> > explantation the doctors just have to take your word and

sometimes

> >> > think it is all psychological. All I know is that there are

real

> >> > women with real problems directly from saline breast implants.

> >> > Don't make the mistake I did and dismiss the accusations that

they

> >> > make you sick because it's disputed by doctors. I did and I

> > regret

> >> > it more than anything in my life, even more than someone

driving

> >> > into me with a car. Feel free to ask any questions or

comment on

> >> > the longest entry of all time(sorry!) I hope someone hears

me.

> >> > Thanks again for listening, Lo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dr. Melmed has given a number of interviews and spoke

to the FDA on our behalf (I think he's going to again

in April.

I know he's caught some flack over his position, but

he's big enough to take it. He's not your ordinary

doctor! . . . He's originally from South Africa. I

wonder if that's got anything to do with it.

In South Africa, attorney's consider it malpractice to

take a percentage of a settlement. They work on a flat

rate. Can you imagine lawyers working like that here?

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Kenda

It would be interesting to hear his reply. If he said he would be

interested, perhaps Oprah would be more interested in doing a show

with a respected doctor instead of just our stories. Let us know if

his reply if you do email him. thanks

kathy

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Dear new members,

> >>>>> > >> > I'm only 21 years old, I've had my implants less than

2 years

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > take my advice, do not get them. I am not out to

tell people

> > what

> >>>>> > >> > choices to make and am not usually an opinionated

person what

> > so

> >>>>> > >> > ever. Never would I spend the time to write this

unless I

> > thought

> >>>>> > >> > maybe if you heard my story it would change one of

your minds

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > possibly save one person's health from turning into

what mine

> > is.

> >>>>> > >> > I got into a hit and run accident while walking

home at age

> > 18

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > it left me with a lot of scars and body issues. I

was finally

> >>>>> > >> > feeling better months later and fully recovered

health wise,

> > but

> >>>>> > >> > mentally I was very depressed and had post-traumatic

stress

> >>>>> > >> > disorder. So in my parents' attempt to make me feel

better

> > about

> >>> > > my

> >>>>> > >> > body they told me they'd do or pay for anything. I

had always

> >>> > > felt

> >>>>> > >> > awkward about my A cup boobs, I was always a pretty

self-

> > consious

> >>>>> > >> > person and until my late teens looked pretty gangly.

So I

> >>> > > actually

> >>>>> > >> > went through with it and got a breast augmentation.

> >>>>> > >> > At first they looked good, and actually did help a

little

> > with my

> >>>>> > >> > self esteem. I got on the birth control pill as well

as

> > started

> >>>>> > >> > eating more. Suddenly I felt self consious about my

chest more

> >>> > > than

> >>>>> > >> > I ever did before because I gained just a little

weight and

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > went from a full B/small C to a big C/small D.

People were

> >>>>> > >> > commenting on how huge my boobs were, and again I

didn't show

> > any

> >>>>> > >> > clevage because they started to look fake and like

the fake

> > balls

> >>>>> > >> > that they are. They even felt a little heavy and

started

> > getting

> >>>>> > >> > more achy. I regretting getting them a little but I

wasn't

> > about

> >>> > > to

> >>>>> > >> > tell my parents I wanted them out after all that

money they

> > had

> >>> > > just

> >>>>> > >> > spent on me to make me happy, so I figured in a

couple of

> > years if

> >>>>> > >> > they still felt fake me and I still felt awkward

about having

> > such

> >>>>> > >> > large boobs on a skinny body to explant when I had

the money

> > after

> >>>>> > >> > graduating from school.

> >>>>> > >> > I started noticing about 2 months after my

implantation that

> > my

> >>>>> > >> > breasts had sharp pains in them. My doctor said they

were

> > probably

> >>>>> > >> > still " settling " and it only happened occasionally so

I

> > dismissed

> >>>>> > >> > it. Soon, I had shooting pains up my arms. I

thought I had

> > been

> >>>>> > >> > using the computer too much and completely

unconnected it to

> > the

> >>>>> > >> > implants. The arm pain turned into wrist pain, and

then

> > crippling

> >>>>> > >> > pain in my hands. The doctors had no idea what was

wrong

> > since I

> >>>>> > >> > tested negative for carpal tunnel as well as

rheumatory

> > arthritis,

> >>>>> > >> > and I'm too young to have osteoarthritis becasue I

have never

> >>> > > broke

> >>>>> > >> > or strained my wrists and hands too much. I have

lived with

> > that

> >>>>> > >> > pain for about 18 months when suddenly it seemed to

have gone

> >>> > > away.

> >>>>> > >> > A few weeks after it went away I started noticing

aches in

> > all of

> >>> > > my

> >>>>> > >> > joints. Horrible aches like pins and needles. It was

> > horrible,

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > I was convinced I had some disease but again I tested

> > negative for

> >>>>> > >> > rheumatory arthritis and all other tests were

negative. I

> > saw on

> >>>>> > >> > MTV Kacey Long's story about her implants and it

clicked in

> > that

> >>>>> > >> > they could be the culprit.

> >>>>> > >> > In just the past 3 months I have begun to get

additional

> >>> > > symptoms,

> >>>>> > >> > pains in my spine, muscles, joints, muscle twitches

everywhere

> >>> > > that

> >>>>> > >> > are very frighetening, and worse yet brain fog. I

used to be

> > a

> >>> > > very

> >>>>> > >> > articulate writer and now I'll be trying to write a

midterm

> > and I

> >>>>> > >> > can't think of the word I want and my head feels like

I have

> >>> > > someone

> >>>>> > >> > squeezing it. All my symptoms come and go at

different

> > times, but

> >>> > > I

> >>>>> > >> > know it all started with shooting pains in my

breasts. A girl

> >>> > > knows

> >>>>> > >> > these things about her body and I can just feel it

literally

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > figuratively that it stems from my chest.

> >>>>> > >> > I can't explant until late May when I'm out of school

> > because I

> >>>>> > >> > can't miss any classes and I am SO anxious and

miserable.

> > Some

> >>> > > days

> >>>>> > >> > my life feels like hell, I feel like I'm 90 years

old, other

> > days

> >>>>> > >> > are better. I felt so hopeless but these women on

this site

> > who

> >>>>> > >> > have recovered give me hope. They don't know how

they've been

> >>>>> > >> > angels to me and feel I found this site for a reason,

because

> > fate

> >>>>> > >> > wanted to lead me towards my key to good health. And

I am so

> >>>>> > >> > grateful for Peggy who made this site because without

it I

> > would

> >>>>> > >> > still be oblivious to what my health issues were

from. I

> > hope I

> >>> > > can

> >>>>> > >> > inspire just one of you to reconsider.

> >>>>> > >> > Although all my doctors have told me they doubt it is

> > related, my

> >>>>> > >> > plastic surgeon has told me that it may be worth a

shot to

> > take

> >>> > > them

> >>>>> > >> > out. He told me he can remember 2 times when women

had

> > similar

> >>>>> > >> > symptoms that were dismissed as Fibromyalgia (which

is a

> > diagnosis

> >>>>> > >> > for someone who has a ton of weird symptoms and tests

> > negative for

> >>>>> > >> > everything else), but these 2 women whose doctors

thought

> > they had

> >>>>> > >> > fibromyalgia didn't care what the doctor thought

because they

> >>> > > hated

> >>>>> > >> > their implants and the way they made them feel and got

> > explanted

> >>>>> > >> > anyways. He said those specific women came back and

let him

> > know

> >>>>> > >> > they felt SO much better, but he said there were many

cases

> > where

> >>>>> > >> > women just happened to get diseases while having the

implants

> > so

> >>>>> > >> > getting them out wouldn't cure anything if this is

the case.

> > The

> >>>>> > >> > trouble with studies is no hard proof that in some

cases

> > women do

> >>>>> > >> > get sick in several ways, because many symptoms that

are

> > aquired

> >>> > > are

> >>>>> > >> > not able to be tested for in blood tests (such as

aches and

> > pains)

> >>>>> > >> > and if you read through the stories you will see that

so many

> > do.

> >>>>> > >> > It makes me so sad that many women are oblivious the

implants

> > are

> >>>>> > >> > the reason for their health problems and live with the

> > poision to

> >>>>> > >> > their bodies just sitting there as lumps in their

chest. I

> > KNOW

> >>>>> > >> > it's my body freaking out from the silicone lining of

the

> > saline

> >>>>> > >> > implant because I have read through ALL the message

board and

> > I

> >>> > > read

> >>>>> > >> > through several women with the SAME exact symptoms.

In my

> > ears I

> >>>>> > >> > can't wear anything but gold because my body freaks

out and my

> >>>>> > >> > earlobe becomes infected from many metals, and the

silicone

> > shell

> >>> > > is

> >>>>> > >> > made from many similar chemcials.

> >>>>> > >> > I was finally healthy and living my life how I

wanted and

> > then

> >>> > > this

> >>>>> > >> > nightmare came from getting these implants. Many of

our

> > bodies

> >>> > > are

> >>>>> > >> > having a reaction, and if you are considering

implants, I

> > don't

> >>> > > know

> >>>>> > >> > if you will get sick, I know many women obviously

don't. If

> > you do

> >>>>> > >> > decide to go through with it I wish you luck but if

you were

> > my

> >>>>> > >> > friend I would plead for you not to on hands and

knees if I

> > had

> >>> > > to.

> >>>>> > >> > But eventually many do get sick, and because of the

wide

> > array of

> >>>>> > >> > symptoms, they may not even make the connection. Any

type of

> >>>>> > >> > irritation my body has currently I account totally to

the

> >>> > > implants,

> >>>>> > >> > and with them you will never know if that is the

reason you

> > are

> >>> > > sick

> >>>>> > >> > with anything. Every woman's body reacts differently

with

> > them,

> >>>>> > >> > some well, some poorly (thousands more than actually

know

> > it), but

> >>>>> > >> > it's completely unpredictable from person to person.

> >>>>> > >> > Think about it like this- put 2 car tires into a

woman's

> > chest

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > maybe some would be fine, but I don't think that I

would, and

> > even

> >>>>> > >> > if right away I recovered from the inital shock of

foreign

> > objects

> >>>>> > >> > in my chest, after years of those tires in my chest I

might

> > get a

> >>>>> > >> > flat tire (leakage), or an infection around it I would

> > imagine.

> >>> > > We

> >>>>> > >> > all eventually need tires replaced no matter how

expensive or

> >>>>> > >> > durable they are. They don't last forever, and mice

have

> > died by

> >>>>> > >> > eating the silicone shell. I feel sick thinking

about all

> > this

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > I should really stop ranting because I am not trying

to

> > complain.

> >>>>> > >> > I'm just trying to help and I'm sorry if I upset

anyone. I am

> >>>>> > >> > awaiting anxiously my explant so my health can start

regaining

> >>> > > it's

> >>>>> > >> > orginal state. I feel God picked me to react to them

badly

> > for a

> >>>>> > >> > reason, as well as many of us I don't think they're

right for

> >>> > > every

> >>>>> > >> > body, and honestly now I don't think they're right for

> > anybody.

> >>>>> > >> > It's kind of like smoking, I know people who smoke

for the

> > quick

> >>>>> > >> > buzz or gratification they get from it. But it takes

a toll

> > on

> >>>>> > >> > their health, wallet, and eventually they will regret

it when

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > are stuck with the habit (or in our case the

implants), both

> > which

> >>>>> > >> > continue to make us feel worse.

> >>>>> > >> > To the women on this support group, I want to let

you know I

> > feel

> >>>>> > >> > we were chosen to read each other's messages for a

reason. I

> > have

> >>>>> > >> > been tested by God or fate so many times in my life

and I am

> > so

> >>>>> > >> > young, but feel I have had enough pain and life

experience

> > for 5

> >>>>> > >> > lifetimes. I feel I have always had good intution

and I beat

> > up

> >>>>> > >> > myself everyday about not following mine about my

breasts,

> >>>>> > >> > especially after the intial symptoms- I may have never

> > developed

> >>> > > the

> >>>>> > >> > more recent ones.

> >>>>> > >> > I don't think God or whoever it is that watches over

us

> > wants us

> >>> > > to

> >>>>> > >> > be miserable but he chooses for us to become stronger

through

> >>>>> > >> > situations and trials such as these. Maybe mother

nature is

> >>> > > trying

> >>>>> > >> > to tell us something. I try to remain positive as we

all

> > should

> >>>>> > >> > because with time I have read so many women get

better, almost

> >>> > > every

> >>>>> > >> > woman explanted over time has been close to 100%. I

am so

> >>> > > miserable

> >>>>> > >> > I can't explain and there's no guarentee I will ever

be 100%

> > and I

> >>>>> > >> > am in the prime of my life- I'm just a baby. Please

don't do

> > it

> >>>>> > >> > because it is painful for me to see so many beautiful

girls

> > get

> >>>>> > >> > them. I feel so naive and I was so uneducated what I

was

> > doing to

> >>>>> > >> > my body.

> >>>>> > >> > When I get them out my breasts will be saggier than

before

> > and

> >>> > > I'll

> >>>>> > >> > still be so young with saggy breasts but I will love

them how

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > are because I know I'll feel better. I think small

breasts

> > are

> >>> > > cute

> >>>>> > >> > now, and I wish I could wear a little tank top like I

used to

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > not feel like my boobs looked out of control, so I

can't wait

> > for

> >>>>> > >> > that. My physical and mental health are in shambles

but I do

> > the

> >>>>> > >> > best I can because I know in 2 months I will be

there. The

> >>>>> > >> > emergency room will seriously be like an oasis to me,

I will

> > be

> >>> > > more

> >>>>> > >> > excited then scared. I NEVER in a million years

would think I

> >>> > > would

> >>>>> > >> > feel so strongly against my very nice looking rack

right

> > after I

> >>> > > got

> >>>>> > >> > them, they aren't a quick fix, they aren't safe, I

don't care

> > what

> >>>>> > >> > anybody ever says again, not even my plastic surgeon

who went

> > to

> >>>>> > >> > Harvard Med School and is the head of plastic surgery

in his

> >>>>> > >> > department. He's an honest man and even he admitted

to me

> > that

> >>>>> > >> > there are no guarentees someone wouldn't react

negatively to

> > them,

> >>>>> > >> > that most research hasn't documented anything very

profound

> > but

> >>> > > not

> >>>>> > >> > much testing has been done. And because a lot of

times no

> > blood

> >>>>> > >> > tests or analysis can determine that diseses came and

went

> > because

> >>>>> > >> > when we react to implants we don't get any cut and dry

> > diseases we

> >>>>> > >> > just get horrible reactions, so when they are

resolved after

> >>>>> > >> > explantation the doctors just have to take your word

and

> > sometimes

> >>>>> > >> > think it is all psychological. All I know is that

there are

> > real

> >>>>> > >> > women with real problems directly from saline breast

implants.

> >>>>> > >> > Don't make the mistake I did and dismiss the

accusations that

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > make you sick because it's disputed by doctors. I

did and I

> >>> > > regret

> >>>>> > >> > it more than anything in my life, even more than

someone

> > driving

> >>>>> > >> > into me with a car. Feel free to ask any questions or

> > comment on

> >>>>> > >> > the longest entry of all time(sorry!) I hope someone

hears

> > me.

> >>>>> > >> > Thanks again for listening, Lo

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> >>> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> >>> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I just wrote him. I’ll let you know if he responds. Have you ever seen this: http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman has received a lot of airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you know who she is? Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

Kenda — who is now on your mission to get the truth out

Kenda

It would be interesting to hear his reply. If he said he would be

interested, perhaps Oprah would be more interested in doing a show

with a respected doctor instead of just our stories. Let us know if

his reply if you do email him. thanks

kathy

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Dear new members,

> >>>>> > >> > I'm only 21 years old, I've had my implants less than

2 years

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > take my advice, do not get them. I am not out to

tell people

> > what

> >>>>> > >> > choices to make and am not usually an opinionated

person what

> > so

> >>>>> > >> > ever. Never would I spend the time to write this

unless I

> > thought

> >>>>> > >> > maybe if you heard my story it would change one of

your minds

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > possibly save one person's health from turning into

what mine

> > is.

> >>>>> > >> > I got into a hit and run accident while walking

home at age

> > 18

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > it left me with a lot of scars and body issues. I

was finally

> >>>>> > >> > feeling better months later and fully recovered

health wise,

> > but

> >>>>> > >> > mentally I was very depressed and had post-traumatic

stress

> >>>>> > >> > disorder. So in my parents' attempt to make me feel

better

> > about

> >>> > > my

> >>>>> > >> > body they told me they'd do or pay for anything. I

had always

> >>> > > felt

> >>>>> > >> > awkward about my A cup boobs, I was always a pretty

self-

> > consious

> >>>>> > >> > person and until my late teens looked pretty gangly.

So I

> >>> > > actually

> >>>>> > >> > went through with it and got a breast augmentation.

> >>>>> > >> > At first they looked good, and actually did help a

little

> > with my

> >>>>> > >> > self esteem. I got on the birth control pill as well

as

> > started

> >>>>> > >> > eating more. Suddenly I felt self consious about my

chest more

> >>> > > than

> >>>>> > >> > I ever did before because I gained just a little

weight and

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > went from a full B/small C to a big C/small D.

People were

> >>>>> > >> > commenting on how huge my boobs were, and again I

didn't show

> > any

> >>>>> > >> > clevage because they started to look fake and like

the fake

> > balls

> >>>>> > >> > that they are. They even felt a little heavy and

started

> > getting

> >>>>> > >> > more achy. I regretting getting them a little but I

wasn't

> > about

> >>> > > to

> >>>>> > >> > tell my parents I wanted them out after all that

money they

> > had

> >>> > > just

> >>>>> > >> > spent on me to make me happy, so I figured in a

couple of

> > years if

> >>>>> > >> > they still felt fake me and I still felt awkward

about having

> > such

> >>>>> > >> > large boobs on a skinny body to explant when I had

the money

> > after

> >>>>> > >> > graduating from school.

> >>>>> > >> > I started noticing about 2 months after my

implantation that

> > my

> >>>>> > >> > breasts had sharp pains in them. My doctor said they

were

> > probably

> >>>>> > >> > still " settling " and it only happened occasionally so

I

> > dismissed

> >>>>> > >> > it. Soon, I had shooting pains up my arms. I

thought I had

> > been

> >>>>> > >> > using the computer too much and completely

unconnected it to

> > the

> >>>>> > >> > implants. The arm pain turned into wrist pain, and

then

> > crippling

> >>>>> > >> > pain in my hands. The doctors had no idea what was

wrong

> > since I

> >>>>> > >> > tested negative for carpal tunnel as well as

rheumatory

> > arthritis,

> >>>>> > >> > and I'm too young to have osteoarthritis becasue I

have never

> >>> > > broke

> >>>>> > >> > or strained my wrists and hands too much. I have

lived with

> > that

> >>>>> > >> > pain for about 18 months when suddenly it seemed to

have gone

> >>> > > away.

> >>>>> > >> > A few weeks after it went away I started noticing

aches in

> > all of

> >>> > > my

> >>>>> > >> > joints. Horrible aches like pins and needles. It was

> > horrible,

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > I was convinced I had some disease but again I tested

> > negative for

> >>>>> > >> > rheumatory arthritis and all other tests were

negative. I

> > saw on

> >>>>> > >> > MTV Kacey Long's story about her implants and it

clicked in

> > that

> >>>>> > >> > they could be the culprit.

> >>>>> > >> > In just the past 3 months I have begun to get

additional

> >>> > > symptoms,

> >>>>> > >> > pains in my spine, muscles, joints, muscle twitches

everywhere

> >>> > > that

> >>>>> > >> > are very frighetening, and worse yet brain fog. I

used to be

> > a

> >>> > > very

> >>>>> > >> > articulate writer and now I'll be trying to write a

midterm

> > and I

> >>>>> > >> > can't think of the word I want and my head feels like

I have

> >>> > > someone

> >>>>> > >> > squeezing it. All my symptoms come and go at

different

> > times, but

> >>> > > I

> >>>>> > >> > know it all started with shooting pains in my

breasts. A girl

> >>> > > knows

> >>>>> > >> > these things about her body and I can just feel it

literally

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > figuratively that it stems from my chest.

> >>>>> > >> > I can't explant until late May when I'm out of school

> > because I

> >>>>> > >> > can't miss any classes and I am SO anxious and

miserable.

> > Some

> >>> > > days

> >>>>> > >> > my life feels like hell, I feel like I'm 90 years

old, other

> > days

> >>>>> > >> > are better. I felt so hopeless but these women on

this site

> > who

> >>>>> > >> > have recovered give me hope. They don't know how

they've been

> >>>>> > >> > angels to me and feel I found this site for a reason,

because

> > fate

> >>>>> > >> > wanted to lead me towards my key to good health. And

I am so

> >>>>> > >> > grateful for Peggy who made this site because without

it I

> > would

> >>>>> > >> > still be oblivious to what my health issues were

from. I

> > hope I

> >>> > > can

> >>>>> > >> > inspire just one of you to reconsider.

> >>>>> > >> > Although all my doctors have told me they doubt it is

> > related, my

> >>>>> > >> > plastic surgeon has told me that it may be worth a

shot to

> > take

> >>> > > them

> >>>>> > >> > out. He told me he can remember 2 times when women

had

> > similar

> >>>>> > >> > symptoms that were dismissed as Fibromyalgia (which

is a

> > diagnosis

> >>>>> > >> > for someone who has a ton of weird symptoms and tests

> > negative for

> >>>>> > >> > everything else), but these 2 women whose doctors

thought

> > they had

> >>>>> > >> > fibromyalgia didn't care what the doctor thought

because they

> >>> > > hated

> >>>>> > >> > their implants and the way they made them feel and got

> > explanted

> >>>>> > >> > anyways. He said those specific women came back and

let him

> > know

> >>>>> > >> > they felt SO much better, but he said there were many

cases

> > where

> >>>>> > >> > women just happened to get diseases while having the

implants

> > so

> >>>>> > >> > getting them out wouldn't cure anything if this is

the case.

> > The

> >>>>> > >> > trouble with studies is no hard proof that in some

cases

> > women do

> >>>>> > >> > get sick in several ways, because many symptoms that

are

> > aquired

> >>> > > are

> >>>>> > >> > not able to be tested for in blood tests (such as

aches and

> > pains)

> >>>>> > >> > and if you read through the stories you will see that

so many

> > do.

> >>>>> > >> > It makes me so sad that many women are oblivious the

implants

> > are

> >>>>> > >> > the reason for their health problems and live with the

> > poision to

> >>>>> > >> > their bodies just sitting there as lumps in their

chest. I

> > KNOW

> >>>>> > >> > it's my body freaking out from the silicone lining of

the

> > saline

> >>>>> > >> > implant because I have read through ALL the message

board and

> > I

> >>> > > read

> >>>>> > >> > through several women with the SAME exact symptoms.

In my

> > ears I

> >>>>> > >> > can't wear anything but gold because my body freaks

out and my

> >>>>> > >> > earlobe becomes infected from many metals, and the

silicone

> > shell

> >>> > > is

> >>>>> > >> > made from many similar chemcials.

> >>>>> > >> > I was finally healthy and living my life how I

wanted and

> > then

> >>> > > this

> >>>>> > >> > nightmare came from getting these implants. Many of

our

> > bodies

> >>> > > are

> >>>>> > >> > having a reaction, and if you are considering

implants, I

> > don't

> >>> > > know

> >>>>> > >> > if you will get sick, I know many women obviously

don't. If

> > you do

> >>>>> > >> > decide to go through with it I wish you luck but if

you were

> > my

> >>>>> > >> > friend I would plead for you not to on hands and

knees if I

> > had

> >>> > > to.

> >>>>> > >> > But eventually many do get sick, and because of the

wide

> > array of

> >>>>> > >> > symptoms, they may not even make the connection. Any

type of

> >>>>> > >> > irritation my body has currently I account totally to

the

> >>> > > implants,

> >>>>> > >> > and with them you will never know if that is the

reason you

> > are

> >>> > > sick

> >>>>> > >> > with anything. Every woman's body reacts differently

with

> > them,

> >>>>> > >> > some well, some poorly (thousands more than actually

know

> > it), but

> >>>>> > >> > it's completely unpredictable from person to person.

> >>>>> > >> > Think about it like this- put 2 car tires into a

woman's

> > chest

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > maybe some would be fine, but I don't think that I

would, and

> > even

> >>>>> > >> > if right away I recovered from the inital shock of

foreign

> > objects

> >>>>> > >> > in my chest, after years of those tires in my chest I

might

> > get a

> >>>>> > >> > flat tire (leakage), or an infection around it I would

> > imagine.

> >>> > > We

> >>>>> > >> > all eventually need tires replaced no matter how

expensive or

> >>>>> > >> > durable they are. They don't last forever, and mice

have

> > died by

> >>>>> > >> > eating the silicone shell. I feel sick thinking

about all

> > this

> >>> > > and

> >>>>> > >> > I should really stop ranting because I am not trying

to

> > complain.

> >>>>> > >> > I'm just trying to help and I'm sorry if I upset

anyone. I am

> >>>>> > >> > awaiting anxiously my explant so my health can start

regaining

> >>> > > it's

> >>>>> > >> > orginal state. I feel God picked me to react to them

badly

> > for a

> >>>>> > >> > reason, as well as many of us I don't think they're

right for

> >>> > > every

> >>>>> > >> > body, and honestly now I don't think they're right for

> > anybody.

> >>>>> > >> > It's kind of like smoking, I know people who smoke

for the

> > quick

> >>>>> > >> > buzz or gratification they get from it. But it takes

a toll

> > on

> >>>>> > >> > their health, wallet, and eventually they will regret

it when

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > are stuck with the habit (or in our case the

implants), both

> > which

> >>>>> > >> > continue to make us feel worse.

> >>>>> > >> > To the women on this support group, I want to let

you know I

> > feel

> >>>>> > >> > we were chosen to read each other's messages for a

reason. I

> > have

> >>>>> > >> > been tested by God or fate so many times in my life

and I am

> > so

> >>>>> > >> > young, but feel I have had enough pain and life

experience

> > for 5

> >>>>> > >> > lifetimes. I feel I have always had good intution

and I beat

> > up

> >>>>> > >> > myself everyday about not following mine about my

breasts,

> >>>>> > >> > especially after the intial symptoms- I may have never

> > developed

> >>> > > the

> >>>>> > >> > more recent ones.

> >>>>> > >> > I don't think God or whoever it is that watches over

us

> > wants us

> >>> > > to

> >>>>> > >> > be miserable but he chooses for us to become stronger

through

> >>>>> > >> > situations and trials such as these. Maybe mother

nature is

> >>> > > trying

> >>>>> > >> > to tell us something. I try to remain positive as we

all

> > should

> >>>>> > >> > because with time I have read so many women get

better, almost

> >>> > > every

> >>>>> > >> > woman explanted over time has been close to 100%. I

am so

> >>> > > miserable

> >>>>> > >> > I can't explain and there's no guarentee I will ever

be 100%

> > and I

> >>>>> > >> > am in the prime of my life- I'm just a baby. Please

don't do

> > it

> >>>>> > >> > because it is painful for me to see so many beautiful

girls

> > get

> >>>>> > >> > them. I feel so naive and I was so uneducated what I

was

> > doing to

> >>>>> > >> > my body.

> >>>>> > >> > When I get them out my breasts will be saggier than

before

> > and

> >>> > > I'll

> >>>>> > >> > still be so young with saggy breasts but I will love

them how

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > are because I know I'll feel better. I think small

breasts

> > are

> >>> > > cute

> >>>>> > >> > now, and I wish I could wear a little tank top like I

used to

> > and

> >>>>> > >> > not feel like my boobs looked out of control, so I

can't wait

> > for

> >>>>> > >> > that. My physical and mental health are in shambles

but I do

> > the

> >>>>> > >> > best I can because I know in 2 months I will be

there. The

> >>>>> > >> > emergency room will seriously be like an oasis to me,

I will

> > be

> >>> > > more

> >>>>> > >> > excited then scared. I NEVER in a million years

would think I

> >>> > > would

> >>>>> > >> > feel so strongly against my very nice looking rack

right

> > after I

> >>> > > got

> >>>>> > >> > them, they aren't a quick fix, they aren't safe, I

don't care

> > what

> >>>>> > >> > anybody ever says again, not even my plastic surgeon

who went

> > to

> >>>>> > >> > Harvard Med School and is the head of plastic surgery

in his

> >>>>> > >> > department. He's an honest man and even he admitted

to me

> > that

> >>>>> > >> > there are no guarentees someone wouldn't react

negatively to

> > them,

> >>>>> > >> > that most research hasn't documented anything very

profound

> > but

> >>> > > not

> >>>>> > >> > much testing has been done. And because a lot of

times no

> > blood

> >>>>> > >> > tests or analysis can determine that diseses came and

went

> > because

> >>>>> > >> > when we react to implants we don't get any cut and dry

> > diseases we

> >>>>> > >> > just get horrible reactions, so when they are

resolved after

> >>>>> > >> > explantation the doctors just have to take your word

and

> > sometimes

> >>>>> > >> > think it is all psychological. All I know is that

there are

> > real

> >>>>> > >> > women with real problems directly from saline breast

implants.

> >>>>> > >> > Don't make the mistake I did and dismiss the

accusations that

> > they

> >>>>> > >> > make you sick because it's disputed by doctors. I

did and I

> >>> > > regret

> >>>>> > >> > it more than anything in my life, even more than

someone

> > driving

> >>>>> > >> > into me with a car. Feel free to ask any questions or

> > comment on

> >>>>> > >> > the longest entry of all time(sorry!) I hope someone

hears

> > me.

> >>>>> > >> > Thanks again for listening, Lo

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> >>> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> >>> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Kenda,

Yes, we know Kacey! She is originally from our group, and we got her

connected to MTV. After they did her story, she set out on a

whirlwind media blitz with her implant nightmare, appearing on many

shows and in magazines. She is on a University tour currently,

sharing her story with college students, which is awesome. We are

all so proud of her accomplishments, and speaking out for all of

us. Her website is at www.implantsout.com

MTV also did Kristi's story several years ago, and they did a great

job. Both Kacey and Kristi got a bit more air time than le

did. I will be interested to see how the other girls stories go

that are upcoming...I know that they filmed Shari, Colleen, and

, all from our group.

I am so pleased you are going to share in our mission of getting the

truth out about implants! You are too cool...thanks for being here

and being such a wonderful participant. Knowing that you have been

able to overcome your fibromyalgia through detoxing is a great

source of encouragement not only to me, but to many others here, I

am sure. And of course, I am delighted that you've changed your

mind about getting implants. I appreciate all the info you've been

able to share about your healing from fibromyalgia.

Hugs,

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> > Kathy,

> >

> > I just wrote him. I¹ll let you know if he responds. Have you

ever seen this:

> > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman has

received a lot of

> > airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you know

who she is?

> > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

> >

> > Kenda ‹ who is now on your mission to get the truth out

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

Thank you, you are so kind. I was beginning to feel like it was time for me to leave, since I don’t have implants, haven’t and won’t. If there is any way I can help, please let me know.

Detoxing seems to be an ongoing effort for those of us challenged in this way. Initially when I started taking the AdvaClear, I felt worse but this is a symptom of a toxic liver. I cut back the dose until I could tolerate it and gradually increased it. My doctor has added different supplements and taken them away when he felt it necessary. I first started about 5 years ago, kicked the fibro but have decided to continue because from time to time I feel like it could come back. It used to scare the heck out of me but I now know if I take care of myself, it won’t. In my genetic testing it showed that I have a weak detoxing system so I guess that’s why I’m the way I am. I eat a mostly organic diet, all organic at home, not when I go out.

I know it’s impossible to work out when you feel so sick but as soon as I was able, I got into the gym with a trainer — five years ago. I had a herniated disc, no energy and felt sick but was determined. About a year later I started a yoga class. I weight train three days a week, do cardio three days and yoga twice and occasionally mountain bike ride when the weather is nice. I really believe exercise is important in getting the toxins out and to feeling better. Yoga, even gentle yoga is so good for the spirit and adds flexibility, something fibro robbed my body of. Even a short walk outside can do wonders for you, it’s great exercise and being outside always brightens my mood.

There really is hope for all of you with toxic bodies. I lived with fibro and all sorts of other “diseases” for more than five years. I truly thought I was dying and even had an AIDS test! It was back when AIDS was first getting airtime and the commercials suggested everyone get tested. I thought this must be it, I contracted it a different, new way the doctors don’t even know about — maybe from a restaurant. Of course the test was negative.

One question I have is did any of you have autoimmune symptoms before implants or did the implants trigger your first episode? I know the implant companies claim that women who develop autoimmune problems post implants would have anyway in their lifetime so the implant isn’t at fault. In my case that may be true because I have a history of autoimmune problems. I am symptom free now but the implants could have triggered the problems to come back.

Kenda

Hi Kenda,

Yes, we know Kacey! She is originally from our group, and we got her

connected to MTV. After they did her story, she set out on a

whirlwind media blitz with her implant nightmare, appearing on many

shows and in magazines. She is on a University tour currently,

sharing her story with college students, which is awesome. We are

all so proud of her accomplishments, and speaking out for all of

us. Her website is at www.implantsout.com

MTV also did Kristi's story several years ago, and they did a great

job. Both Kacey and Kristi got a bit more air time than le

did. I will be interested to see how the other girls stories go

that are upcoming...I know that they filmed Shari, Colleen, and

, all from our group.

I am so pleased you are going to share in our mission of getting the

truth out about implants! You are too cool...thanks for being here

and being such a wonderful participant. Knowing that you have been

able to overcome your fibromyalgia through detoxing is a great

source of encouragement not only to me, but to many others here, I

am sure. And of course, I am delighted that you've changed your

mind about getting implants. I appreciate all the info you've been

able to share about your healing from fibromyalgia.

Hugs,

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> > Kathy,

> >

> > I just wrote him. I’ll let you know if he responds. Have you

ever seen this:

> > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman has

received a lot of

> > airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you know

who she is?

> > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

> >

> > Kenda — who is now on your mission to get the truth out

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi Kenda,

Nope, no autoimmune problems in my family, yet I became critically ill anyway.

It sounds like you have alot to offer this group even though you haven't had implants.. thank god.. you made the right choice. So, keep sharing.

DawnKenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

Hi Patty,Thank you, you are so kind. I was beginning to feel like it was time for me to leave, since I don’t have implants, haven’t and won’t. If there is any way I can help, please let me know. Detoxing seems to be an ongoing effort for those of us challenged in this way. Initially when I started taking the AdvaClear, I felt worse but this is a symptom of a toxic liver. I cut back the dose until I could tolerate it and gradually increased it. My doctor has added different supplements and taken them away when he felt it necessary. I first started about 5 years ago, kicked the fibro but have decided to continue because from time to time I feel like it could come back. It used to scare the heck out of me but I now know if I take care of myself, it won’t. In my genetic testing it showed that I

have a weak detoxing system so I guess that’s why I’m the way I am. I eat a mostly organic diet, all organic at home, not when I go out. I know it’s impossible to work out when you feel so sick but as soon as I was able, I got into the gym with a trainer — five years ago. I had a herniated disc, no energy and felt sick but was determined. About a year later I started a yoga class. I weight train three days a week, do cardio three days and yoga twice and occasionally mountain bike ride when the weather is nice. I really believe exercise is important in getting the toxins out and to feeling better. Yoga, even gentle yoga is so good for the spirit and adds flexibility, something fibro robbed my body of. Even a short walk outside can do wonders for you, it’s great exercise and being outside always brightens my mood. There really is hope for all of you with toxic bodies. I lived with fibro and all

sorts of other “diseases” for more than five years. I truly thought I was dying and even had an AIDS test! It was back when AIDS was first getting airtime and the commercials suggested everyone get tested. I thought this must be it, I contracted it a different, new way the doctors don’t even know about — maybe from a restaurant. Of course the test was negative. :)One question I have is did any of you have autoimmune symptoms before implants or did the implants trigger your first episode? I know the implant companies claim that women who develop autoimmune problems post implants would have anyway in their lifetime so the implant isn’t at fault. In my case that may be true because I have a history of autoimmune problems. I am symptom free now but the implants could have triggered the problems to come back.Kenda

Hi Kenda,Yes, we know Kacey! She is originally from our group, and we got her connected to MTV. After they did her story, she set out on a whirlwind media blitz with her implant nightmare, appearing on many shows and in magazines. She is on a University tour currently, sharing her story with college students, which is awesome. We are all so proud of her accomplishments, and speaking out for all of us. Her website is at www.implantsout.comMTV also did Kristi's story several years ago, and they did a great job. Both Kacey and Kristi got a bit more air time than le did. I will be interested to see how the other girls stories go that are upcoming...I know that they filmed Shari, Colleen, and , all from our group.I am so pleased you are going to share in our mission of getting the truth out about implants! You are too cool...thanks for being

here and being such a wonderful participant. Knowing that you have been able to overcome your fibromyalgia through detoxing is a great source of encouragement not only to me, but to many others here, I am sure. And of course, I am delighted that you've changed your mind about getting implants. I appreciate all the info you've been able to share about your healing from fibromyalgia.Hugs,Patty> > Kathy,> > > > I just wrote him. I’ll let you know if he responds. Have you ever seen this:> > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman has received a lot of> > airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you know who she is?> > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?> > > > Kenda — who is now on your mission

to get the truth out :)Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Dawn. I am so thankful I’m not having the surgery. I cancelled with my plastic surgeon yesterday. I’ll share what I can.

Kenda

Hi Kenda,

Nope, no autoimmune problems in my family, yet I became critically ill anyway.

It sounds like you have alot to offer this group even though you haven't had implants.. thank god.. you made the right choice. So, keep sharing.

Dawn

Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

Hi Patty,

Thank you, you are so kind. I was beginning to feel like it was time for me to leave, since I don’t have implants, haven’t and won’t. If there is any way I can help, please let me know.

Detoxing seems to be an ongoing effort for those of us challenged in this way. Initially when I started taking the AdvaClear, I felt worse but this is a symptom of a toxic liver. I cut back the dose until I could tolerate it and gradually increased it. My doctor has added different supplements and taken them away when he felt it necessary. I first started about 5 years ago, kicked the fibro but have decided to continue because from time to time I feel like it could come back. It used to scare the heck out of me but I now know if I take care of myself, it won’t. In my genetic testing it showed that I have a weak detoxing system so I guess that’s why I’m the way I am. I eat a mostly organic diet, all organic at home, not when I go out.

I know it’s impossible to work out when you feel so sick but as soon as I was able, I got into the gym with a trainer — five years ago. I had a herniated disc, no energy and felt sick but was determined. About a year later I started a yoga class. I weight train three days a week, do cardio three days and yoga twice and occasionally mountain bike ride when the weather is nice. I really believe exercise is important in getting the toxins out and to feeling better. Yoga, even gentle yoga is so good for the spirit and adds flexibility, something fibro robbed my body of. Even a short walk outside can do wonders for you, it’s great exercise and being outside always brightens my mood.

There really is hope for all of you with toxic bodies. I lived with fibro and all sorts of other “diseases” for more than five years. I truly thought I was dying and even had an AIDS test! It was back when AIDS was first getting airtime and the commercials suggested everyone get tested. I thought this must be it, I contracted it a different, new way the doctors don’t even know about — maybe from a restaurant. Of course the test was negative.

One question I have is did any of you have autoimmune symptoms before implants or did the implants trigger your first episode? I know the implant companies claim that women who develop autoimmune problems post implants would have anyway in their lifetime so the implant isn’t at fault. In my case that may be true because I have a history of autoimmune problems. I am symptom free now but the implants could have triggered the problems to come back.

Kenda

Hi Kenda,

Yes, we know Kacey! She is originally from our group, and we got her

connected to MTV. After they did her story, she set out on a

whirlwind media blitz with her implant nightmare, appearing on many

shows and in magazines. She is on a University tour currently,

sharing her story with college students, which is awesome. We are

all so proud of her accomplishments, and speaking out for all of

us. Her website is at www.implantsout.com

MTV also did Kristi's story several years ago, and they did a great

job. Both Kacey and Kristi got a bit more air time than le

did. I will be interested to see how the other girls stories go

that are upcoming...I know that they filmed Shari, Colleen, and

, all from our group.

I am so pleased you are going to share in our mission of getting the

truth out about implants! You are too cool...thanks fo r being here

and being such a wonderful participant. Knowing that you have been

able to overcome your fibromyalgia through detoxing is a great

source of encouragement not only to me, but to many others here, I

am sure. And of course, I am delighted that you've changed your

mind about getting implants. I appreciate all the info you've been

able to share about your healing from fibromyalgia.

Hugs,

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

> > Kathy,

> >

> > I just wrote him. I’ll let you know if he responds. Have you

ever seen this:

> > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman has

received a lot of

> > airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you know

who she is?

> > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

> >

> > Kenda — who is now on your m ission to get the truth out

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi, I'm new to this post and saw your message. I

don't know your whole story though but if you could

rehash with me what you had and how you cured it. I

have autoimmune hashimotos and frankly think I did

have this prior to my implants. My first symptoms

were in 95--96 when I started to develop white spots

to my skin esp. on my neck and chest area. My husband

first noticed it. I didn't do anything about it, it

never occurred to me then, I thought it was just part

of me. Then in 96 right around menopause I lost a

chunk of hair center front. Since I have so much no

one else noticed it and I thought it was from

menopause and would grow back. Well, it's almost 9 yrs

and it hasn't. Then I had the implants in 98, and I

see from photos now that my hair looked flat and dull

afterwards....I was diagnosed hashimotos in 02 but can

honestly say I don't know if it was from implants,

saline, because my mother has hypothyroid but not

hashis. From then it was downhill, I could and have

never been regulated with meds.....I live out of the

US and every dr here puts me on the same levythroxine.

My hair was continuing to fallout but in Dec 04, I

went to a homeopath and he put me on silica and then

stopped the (visible) hairloss. However, there is no

regrowth so my hair looks weak and thin on top and

temples. Now I am worried this is AGA because it

seems like the pattern. I still have lots of hair on

back and sides but the top is very thin. I am almost

losing underarm and you-know-where hair, much thinner.

My skin is very dry as well. For the month few

months I have felt really awful, now I can barely get

through the day...I have no energy and feel like I'm

dying really, just wasting away...yesterday I had

blood work and my iron came out ok (109), I am waiting

for the testosterone results. My thryoid antibodies

have been increasing and I can't regulate my meds. I

was considering going on armour rather than the

synthetic meds.. and I am considering removing the

implants although I am completely flat which was ok

when I was young, now I think I will look deformed,

and I can honestly say I don't know if these are the

cause of my problems.....Perhaps detoxing is the

answer, or can you help me out here?

PS: A naturopath dr gave me adrenal and liver detox

drops but when I take them, it seems to interfere with

my thyroid meds because my tsh always increases.

Also, I don't feel good while taking them as well. A

homeopath dr here just prescribed thyroidium, and

pulsatilla but I don't know if I should take as well.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. (Sorry it's so

long, I'm just getting it all out)...

--- Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

> Hi Patty,

>

> Thank you, you are so kind. I was beginning to feel

> like it was time for me

> to leave, since I don¹t have implants, haven¹t and

> won¹t. If there is any

> way I can help, please let me know.

>

> Detoxing seems to be an ongoing effort for those of

> us challenged in this

> way. Initially when I started taking the

> AdvaClear, I felt worse but this

> is a symptom of a toxic liver. I cut back the dose

> until I could tolerate

> it and gradually increased it. My doctor has added

> different supplements

> and taken them away when he felt it necessary. I

> first started about 5

> years ago, kicked the fibro but have decided to

> continue because from time

> to time I feel like it could come back. It used to

> scare the heck out of me

> but I now know if I take care of myself, it won¹t.

> In my genetic testing it

> showed that I have a weak detoxing system so I guess

> that¹s why I¹m the way

> I am. I eat a mostly organic diet, all organic at

> home, not when I go out.

>

> I know it¹s impossible to work out when you feel so

> sick but as soon as I

> was able, I got into the gym with a trainer ‹ five

> years ago. I had a

> herniated disc, no energy and felt sick but was

> determined. About a year

> later I started a yoga class. I weight train three

> days a week, do cardio

> three days and yoga twice and occasionally mountain

> bike ride when the

> weather is nice. I really believe exercise is

> important in getting the

> toxins out and to feeling better. Yoga, even gentle

> yoga is so good for the

> spirit and adds flexibility, something fibro robbed

> my body of. Even a

> short walk outside can do wonders for you, it¹s

> great exercise and being

> outside always brightens my mood.

>

> There really is hope for all of you with toxic

> bodies. I lived with fibro

> and all sorts of other ³diseases² for more than five

> years. I truly thought

> I was dying and even had an AIDS test! It was back

> when AIDS was first

> getting airtime and the commercials suggested

> everyone get tested. I

> thought this must be it, I contracted it a

> different, new way the doctors

> don¹t even know about ‹ maybe from a restaurant. Of

> course the test was

> negative.

>

> One question I have is did any of you have

> autoimmune symptoms before

> implants or did the implants trigger your first

> episode? I know the implant

> companies claim that women who develop autoimmune

> problems post implants

> would have anyway in their lifetime so the implant

> isn¹t at fault. In my

> case that may be true because I have a history of

> autoimmune problems. I am

> symptom free now but the implants could have

> triggered the problems to come

> back.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> >

> > Hi Kenda,

> > Yes, we know Kacey! She is originally from our

> group, and we got her

> > connected to MTV. After they did her story, she

> set out on a

> > whirlwind media blitz with her implant nightmare,

> appearing on many

> > shows and in magazines. She is on a University

> tour currently,

> > sharing her story with college students, which is

> awesome. We are

> > all so proud of her accomplishments, and speaking

> out for all of

> > us. Her website is at www.implantsout.com

> >

> > MTV also did Kristi's story several years ago, and

> they did a great

> > job. Both Kacey and Kristi got a bit more air

> time than le

> > did. I will be interested to see how the other

> girls stories go

> > that are upcoming...I know that they filmed Shari,

> Colleen, and

> > , all from our group.

> >

> > I am so pleased you are going to share in our

> mission of getting the

> > truth out about implants! You are too

> cool...thanks for being here

> > and being such a wonderful participant. Knowing

> that you have been

> > able to overcome your fibromyalgia through

> detoxing is a great

> > source of encouragement not only to me, but to

> many others here, I

> > am sure. And of course, I am delighted that

> you've changed your

> > mind about getting implants. I appreciate all the

> info you've been

> > able to share about your healing from

> fibromyalgia.

> > Hugs,

> > Patty

> >

> >

> >

> >>> > > Kathy,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > I just wrote him. I¹ll let you know if he

> responds. Have you

> > ever seen this:

> >>> > > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ?

> This woman has

> > received a lot of

> >>> > > airtime, including having her explanation

> filmed. Do you know

> > who she is?

> >>> > > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Kenda ‹ who is now on your mission to get

> the truth out

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

It seems that women who have a family history of

autoimmune problems are more likely to develop

problems.

ey, who had breast implants for a

deformity at 18 had four children who were

progressively more ill. . . She did extensive genetic

testing on her entire family and learned they had a

genetic propensity for autoimmune problems. She

considers that implants were the trigger. ..

Especially the chemicals that the particular batch

number that her implants were made from.

Here's an article on her daughter . Hillary has

dramatic health issues. But that hasn't stopped her

from helping others.

http://www.komu.com/html/htmlsStories/bigheart032905.htm

I recently started a support group for the families of

children affected by implants. Siliconekids. is

a member of the group. She's knows a number of other

families with affected children. She tells me that her

daughter, , is not the most seriously affected!

It's all so terribly sad!

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Kenda

That is great news about how you kicked your fibro. It really can

take alot of work! I might look into the advaclear. I definitely

have detoxification problems! I can't eliminate toxins well! You

asked if people who get sick from implants already had autoimmune

problems first. Some do, I did. I had had fibromyalgia for at

least eight years before that. But the implants not only made it

worse, I then developed mixed connective tissue disease--which is

basically autoimmune disease with no clear features of any one in

particular. But it appears that I am in the minority of the women

here with most of them having had no knowledge of any prior

problems. Most claim to have been wonderfully healthy until after

getting implants. I would say that implants definitely tax the

immune system and women predisposed to that kind of thing, it will

be the straw that broke the camel's back. Most of us, with the

right amount of triggers, can develop autoimmune problems. Sure,

there are women out there with a strong genetic background who

probably will never get sick from implants, but there is no way to

identify who upfront who will and who won't get sick from implants.

Besides,it isn't all about immunity. Some women will get sick

because their implants become contaminated. And there is no way to

predict that either. The safest thing is just not to provoke our

bodies by putting foreign objects intend to them! I am so glad you

decided not to and that you are compassionate enough to want to

prevent other women from making that mistake even when you could

just forget all about it now that you have made your decision. Keep

up the good work!

Hugs

kathy

> >>> > > Kathy,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > I just wrote him. I¹ll let you know if he responds. Have

you

> > ever seen this:

> >>> > > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman

has

> > received a lot of

> >>> > > airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you

know

> > who she is?

> >>> > > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Kenda ‹ who is now on your mission to get the truth out

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

This is exactly how Mentor and other implant companies get off the hook, they claim that the women were “sick”’ to begin with. I’d love to see a blood test for ANA on every woman considering implants. Let the government monitor the women and see if there is a higher incidence of implant-related disease in high ANA women. This could be one way to predict illness in women. If women knew a high ANA prior to implantation meant that they had a greater risk for disease, they might give implants more thought. I was told I had a less than 1% chance of developing any problems related to implants and that it was “not proven” that implants can cause any autoimmune problems by three plastic surgeons. I felt extremely comfortable with a 1% chance of problems. It wasn’t until Dr. Leu asked me about past ANA tests that I became concerned. He tested me and it was normal but I recalled a past ANA being positive and ordered a copy of the lab. I had two abnormal ANA tests, one 10 years ago, the other 12 years ago.

Implants seem to be safe for a large number of women. The government needs to figure out why they aren’t safe for ALL women and expose the truth. I have many friends and family members who thankfully have had no complications of any kind with their implants but that doesn’t mean that they are safe for everyone. The FDA bans drugs that harm people, why not implants? Obviously it’s because they are such a large money maker.

I was talking to a friend yesterday who was telling me about a friend of hers who has three children. The last of the three was conceived and born while the mother had silicone implants. She breastfed the baby. Today, that one child has many, many health problems. She’s convinced it’s the implants. Seems pretty likely.

Kenda

Kenda,

It seems that women who have a family history of

autoimmune problems are more likely to develop

problems.

ey, who had breast implants for a

deformity at 18 had four children who were

progressively more ill. . . She did extensive genetic

testing on her entire family and learned they had a

genetic propensity for autoimmune problems. She

considers that implants were the trigger. ..

Especially the chemicals that the particular batch

number that her implants were made from.

Here's an article on her daughter . Hillary has

dramatic health issues. But that hasn't stopped her

from helping others.

http://www.komu.com/html/htmlsStories/bigheart032905.htm

I recently started a support group for the families of

children affected by implants. Siliconekids. is

a member of the group. She's knows a number of other

families with affected children. She tells me that her

daughter, , is not the most seriously affected!

It's all so terribly sad!

Hugs,

Rogene

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy!

There are so many commonalities between the women on this list. It sure seems that a study could be done to determine what is going on with implants that are supposed to be safe. Why are women developing infections? Is it the surgeon, is it the implant? Or maybe it’s the woman’s body? Answers need to be found out!

I had a feeling implants weren’t a good thing but you all have convinced me of how bad they can be. I think all women deserve to know what they are getting themselves into before the surgery. It outrages me that we are told we have a 1% chance of developing any complication and that autoimmune problems are not caused by implants. They can use whatever verbiage they want, maybe autoimmune problems aren’t “caused” by implants but they sure seem to be a catalyst.

Kenda

Kenda

That is great news about how you kicked your fibro. It really can

take alot of work! I might look into the advaclear. I definitely

have detoxification problems! I can't eliminate toxins well! You

asked if people who get sick from implants already had autoimmune

problems first. Some do, I did. I had had fibromyalgia for at

least eight years before that. But the implants not only made it

worse, I then developed mixed connective tissue disease--which is

basically autoimmune disease with no clear features of any one in

particular. But it appears that I am in the minority of the women

here with most of them having had no knowledge of any prior

problems. Most claim to have been wonderfully healthy until after

getting implants. I would say that implants definitely tax the

immune system and women predisposed to that kind of thing, it will

be the straw that broke the camel's back. Most of us, with the

right amount of triggers, can develop autoimmune problems. Sure,

there are women out there with a strong genetic background who

probably will never get sick from implants, but there is no way to

identify who upfront who will and who won't get sick from implants.

Besides,it isn't all about immunity. Some women will get sick

because their implants become contaminated. And there is no way to

predict that either. The safest thing is just not to provoke our

bodies by putting foreign objects intend to them! I am so glad you

decided not to and that you are compassionate enough to want to

prevent other women from making that mistake even when you could

just forget all about it now that you have made your decision. Keep

up the good work!

Hugs

kathy

> >>> > > Kathy,

> >>> > >

> >>> > > I just wrote him. I’ll let you know if he responds. Have

you

> > ever seen this:

> >>> > > http://www.aboutmytalk.com/t175518/s & .html ? This woman

has

> > received a lot of

> >>> > > airtime, including having her explanation filmed. Do you

know

> > who she is?

> >>> > > Perhaps she would like to talk to Oprah too?

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Kenda — who is now on your mission to get the truth out

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Where is this Dr.Leu located, in Oklahoma?

--- Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

> Hi Rogene,

>

> This is exactly how Mentor and other implant

> companies get off the hook,

> they claim that the women were ³sick²¹ to begin

> with. I¹d love to see a

> blood test for ANA on every woman considering

> implants. Let the government

> monitor the women and see if there is a higher

> incidence of implant-related

> disease in high ANA women. This could be one way to

> predict illness in

> women. If women knew a high ANA prior to

> implantation meant that they had a

> greater risk for disease, they might give implants

> more thought. I was told

> I had a less than 1% chance of developing any

> problems related to implants

> and that it was ³not proven² that implants can cause

> any autoimmune problems

> by three plastic surgeons. I felt extremely

> comfortable with a 1% chance of

> problems. It wasn¹t until Dr. Leu asked me about

> past ANA tests that I

> became concerned. He tested me and it was normal

> but I recalled a past ANA

> being positive and ordered a copy of the lab. I had

> two abnormal ANA tests,

> one 10 years ago, the other 12 years ago.

>

> Implants seem to be safe for a large number of

> women. The government needs

> to figure out why they aren¹t safe for ALL women and

> expose the truth. I

> have many friends and family members who thankfully

> have had no

> complications of any kind with their implants but

> that doesn¹t mean that

> they are safe for everyone. The FDA bans drugs that

> harm people, why not

> implants? Obviously it¹s because they are such a

> large money maker.

>

> I was talking to a friend yesterday who was telling

> me about a friend of

> hers who has three children. The last of the three

> was conceived and born

> while the mother had silicone implants. She

> breastfed the baby. Today,

> that one child has many, many health problems.

> She¹s convinced it¹s the

> implants. Seems pretty likely.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Kenda,

> >

> > It seems that women who have a family history of

> > autoimmune problems are more likely to develop

> > problems.

> >

> > ey, who had breast implants for a

> > deformity at 18 had four children who were

> > progressively more ill. . . She did extensive

> genetic

> > testing on her entire family and learned they had

> a

> > genetic propensity for autoimmune problems. She

> > considers that implants were the trigger. ..

> > Especially the chemicals that the particular batch

> > number that her implants were made from.

> >

> > Here's an article on her daughter . Hillary

> has

> > dramatic health issues. But that hasn't stopped

> her

> > from helping others.

> >

>

http://www.komu.com/html/htmlsStories/bigheart032905.htm

> >

> > I recently started a support group for the

> families of

> > children affected by implants. Siliconekids.

> is

> > a member of the group. She's knows a number of

> other

> > families with affected children. She tells me that

> her

> > daughter, , is not the most seriously

> affected!

> >

> > It's all so terribly sad!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >