Diarrhea

May 31, 2007

I take 2 citrucel pills in the morning and 2 at night. I forgot to take them

yesterday and had diarrhea this morning, this after nearly 2 years. The fiber is

a lifelong thing

Diarrhea

Hi, I'm less than 2 months out but still have constant diarrhea. What

I eat does not seem to affect it much. I am taking probiotics, yogurt,

and FOS all of which should help to restore my healthy gut

composition. Also taking fiber supplements and digestive enzymes. Any

other ideas out there? Have others had this problem?

Thanks,

Sharon

May 31, 2007

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>

> Thank you, . I have talked to Dr. R and am working on it. trying

more fiber. Take Care

Sharon

> Sharon,

>

> I would have to ask what is constant diareaha?Â Does that mean you

go once or twice a day and it is loose stool or is it every hour and

just water?Â As I recall it took several months, maybe four or five

for my stools to become regular again.Â I only had constant diareaha

for the first week and that got better after day three or four and

wasnt constant enough that I couldnt leave the house.Â But for many

months when I wake up at 6 in the morning there had not be anyone

hogging the bathroom because I have to go immediately!Â This has also

slowed down and now I can be awake for about one half hour before

running for the bathroom?

>

> If it is constant and watery, I would probably call my surgeon

because of the danger of dehydration, but remember what I was told,

you can figure water in water out!Â So the first couple of weeks its

going to be mostly liquid and then of course the soft foods dont have

much bulk to them either so maybe it will get better for you the

longer you are in stage 3?

>

> in Fla

>

> Diarrhea

>

> Hi, I'm less than 2 months out but still have constant diarrhea. What

> I eat does not seem to affect it much. I am taking probiotics, yogurt,

> and FOS all of which should help to restore my healthy gut

> composition. Also taking fiber supplements and digestive enzymes. Any

> other ideas out there? Have others had this problem?

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

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>I'm using Citricel powder and tab.

Sharon

> hi, curious to know what fiber source you use ?? mary

>

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> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:33 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Diarrhea

>

> Adjust your fiber intake, more or less. I had to take more to adjust

mine.

> Diarrhea

>

> Hi, I'm less than 2 months out but still have constant diarrhea. What

> I eat does not seem to affect it much. I am taking probiotics, yogurt,

> and FOS all of which should help to restore my healthy gut

> composition. Also taking fiber supplements and digestive enzymes. Any

> other ideas out there? Have others had this problem?

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

July 22, 2007

--- Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> Are your stools just loose, or are they

> totally runny and watery - there's a difference.

I also have had a really bad diarhea every day since

starting on the program. I do think it's a positive

sign of detoxing but it's also a bit tough to handle.

My diarheea is totally like water, it's like a

" natural enema " lol. Then on my good days it's just

extremely soft stool.

I think for me it might be a re-tracing issue aswell.

I've had a milder form of diarhea for the last year,

every day, caused by stress or candida or whatever.

So I think my body has a weakness here and that's

partly why I've seen it get so much worse. But I'm

optimistic and hoping it will resolve itself in a

month or so.

I have tried everything that's suggested in the Files

archives. But nothing seems to be able to effect it

the slightest. It's possible that my body needs to go

through this. I sometimes think that it's better to

let the body have as much diarheea as it needs to.

It's probably smarter than I am. lol. Also, it's not

all day long, only in the mornings and then it's over

with.

Perhaps it is more beneficial to let the body do it's

thing than trying to do all in my power to stop it?

What do you think Bee?

Also, as I'm only about 3-4 weeks in on this program

I'm still not taking all the supplements because;

1, Some haven't arrive yet.

2, It'll take me a while to get used to the full

dosage.

I'm taking the C-vitamin (including calcium), cod

liver oil, Magnesium. That's it for now.

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July 23, 2007

>

> > Are your stools just loose, or are they

> > totally runny and watery - there's a difference.

>

> I also have had a really bad diarhea every day since

> starting on the program. I do think it's a positive

> sign of detoxing but it's also a bit tough to handle.

> My diarheea is totally like water, it's like a

> " natural enema " lol. Then on my good days it's just

> extremely soft stool.

>

> I think for me it might be a re-tracing issue aswell.

> I've had a milder form of diarhea for the last year,

> every day, caused by stress or candida or whatever.

> So I think my body has a weakness here and that's

> partly why I've seen it get so much worse. But I'm

> optimistic and hoping it will resolve itself in a

> month or so.

>

> I have tried everything that's suggested in the Files

> archives. But nothing seems to be able to effect it

> the slightest. It's possible that my body needs to go

> through this. I sometimes think that it's better to

> let the body have as much diarheea as it needs to.

> It's probably smarter than I am. lol. Also, it's not

> all day long, only in the mornings and then it's over

> with.

>

> Perhaps it is more beneficial to let the body do it's

> thing than trying to do all in my power to stop it?

> What do you think Bee?

>

> Also, as I'm only about 3-4 weeks in on this program

> I'm still not taking all the supplements because;

> 1, Some haven't arrive yet.

> 2, It'll take me a while to get used to the full

> dosage.

>

> I'm taking the C-vitamin (including calcium), cod

> liver oil, Magnesium. That's it for now.

==>Hi . I believe you are right that you need to allow the body

to do its thing. The fact that you do not have diarrhea all day is a

good sign. You might try cutting back on vitamin C and only

gradually increase to see if that helps. If vitamin C is increased

too quickly it can cause loose stools. But then you need to get

calcium from another source.

Luv, Bee

July 23, 2007

--- Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> ==>Hi . I believe you are right that you need

> to allow the body

> to do its thing.

Good to hear that you also think so. I'm feeling OK

so I'll just wait it out.

> You might try cutting back on vitamin C

> and only gradually increase to see if that helps.

Good idea.

> But then you need to get

> calcium from another source.

I'll make sure I do. I also am hoping I'll get a

little better once I can start the chlorella since

that will help the body detox.

Thank you again so much Bee for all your help!

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July 24, 2007

>

> > ==>Hi . I believe you are right that you need

> > to allow the body

> > to do its thing.

>

> Good to hear that you also think so. I'm feeling OK

> so I'll just wait it out.

>

> > You might try cutting back on vitamin C

> > and only gradually increase to see if that helps.

>

> Good idea.

>

> > But then you need to get

> > calcium from another source.

>

> I'll make sure I do. I also am hoping I'll get a

> little better once I can start the chlorella since

> that will help the body detox.

==>, I do not recommend chlorella because too many candida

sufferers have not done well on it - I think that is because it is

derived from algae which is a form of fungus. Buy liquid chlorophyll

instead, per my article.

Luv, Bee

July 25, 2007

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

==>, I do not recommend chlorella because too many candida

sufferers have not done well on it - I think that is because it is

derived from algae which is a form of fungus. Buy liquid chlorophyll

instead, per my article.

So sorry, it was just a typo. I meant I'm waitng for the delivery of my liquid

chlorophyll. lol. I had been taking chlorella that I had bought ages ago just

while waiting for the delivery but I decided to quit that too. I can't wait for

the chlorophyll to arrive!

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December 15, 2007

Hi Irene,

Check out the file

C) Digestion & Digestive Problems, Help for

There are treatments in their for diarrhea. I hope he feels better soon.

Jecca

My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet

(not on all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off.

However he has gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there

something he can do to help with the discomfort and to prevent

dehydration. He is miserable and is ready to take imodium. I looked

in the files but didn't find anything.

December 15, 2007

Happened to my wife yesterday... happens to all of us in the beginning

as our bodies adjust, I'm sure! If he's on coconut oil already, have

him lower it for a day, or skip taking it with a meal or two. If he's

taking magnesium already, have him not take it one night before bed.

Maybe he ate too much fat for one meal...

But, maybe his body is actually doing a good thing, and getting rid of

something that needs to be gotten rid of! I've noticed when it's

happened to me in the beginning of this diet, it resolves itself pretty

quickly. It happens to me if I eat a large amount of fat during a

meal, and I'm not used to it yet. Or if I eat 1 tablespoon of yummy

coconut oil instead of the teaspoon I should be taking.

>

> My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet

(not on

> all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off. However he

has

> gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there something he can do

to

> help with the discomfort and to prevent dehydration. He is miserable

and

> is ready to take imodium. I looked in the files but didn't find

anything.

> Thanks,

> Irene

>

December 15, 2007

He is much better this morning thanks. I will check out the link for next

time! Last night I only looked in the files for detox. I didn't think to

check under digestive problems.

Thanks much,

Irene

At 03:14 AM 12/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Irene,

>

>Check out the file

>

>C) Digestion & Digestive Problems, Help for

>

>There are treatments in their for diarrhea. I hope he feels better soon.

>

>Jecca

>

>My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet

>(not on all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off.

>However he has gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there

>something he can do to help with the discomfort and to prevent

>dehydration. He is miserable and is ready to take imodium. I looked

>in the files but didn't find anything.

>

December 15, 2007

That is the crazy thing about my husband. He isn't taking anything. I

started him on supplements and they made him really nauseous so we stopped

those and I am working up to them slowly. I started him with garlic tea, at

1/2 clove per day in the evening but he didn't even have any of that

yesterday. Both of us are astonished at how his body is responding to this.

It is possible that he had too much butter. But anyway, whatever it was

seems to have passed and he is much better this morning. I think it was

just his body responding.

Thanks,

Irene

At 06:01 AM 12/15/2007, you wrote:

>Happened to my wife yesterday... happens to all of us in the beginning

>as our bodies adjust, I'm sure! If he's on coconut oil already, have

>him lower it for a day, or skip taking it with a meal or two. If he's

>taking magnesium already, have him not take it one night before bed.

>Maybe he ate too much fat for one meal...

>

>But, maybe his body is actually doing a good thing, and getting rid of

>something that needs to be gotten rid of! I've noticed when it's

>happened to me in the beginning of this diet, it resolves itself pretty

>quickly. It happens to me if I eat a large amount of fat during a

>meal, and I'm not used to it yet. Or if I eat 1 tablespoon of yummy

>coconut oil instead of the teaspoon I should be taking.

>

> >

> > My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet

>(not on

> > all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off. However he

>has

> > gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there something he can do

>to

> > help with the discomfort and to prevent dehydration. He is miserable

>and

> > is ready to take imodium. I looked in the files but didn't find

>anything.

> > Thanks,

> > Irene

> >

>

December 15, 2007

Hi Irene,

Sorry to hear about your husband discomfort. Here's the suggestions Bee has

given in the past hope you'll find them useful.

Maddalena

==>To help your diarrhea, try to only have a liquid diet plus eggs, i.e. Bee's

raw egg drink, broths, and teas, and also cut back on fats for a couple of days.

To the egg drink add 1 tsp. cinnamon, a pinch of ground clove, a pinch of ground

ginger, 1/4 tsp. of nutmeg, which also helps diarrhea.

==>be sure to have the lemon juice (or use lime juice) and ocean sea salt in

water (lemon or lime juice are very helpful for diarrhea & the sea salt contains

minerals that are much needed to replace your electrolytes).

==>There are a number of herbal teas that also help diarrhea, including

chamomile, caraway seed, and blackberry leaf or root (root is best if you can

get it). Drink 3-5 cups per day.

==>Ginger is excellent as well. Add one teaspoonful of powdered ginger root (or

finely grate ginger root) to one cup of boiling water. Drink three cups a day.

This is especially good for cramps or abdominal pain.

==>The combination of cinnamon and cayenne pepper are very effective in

tightening the bowels. Make a tea by adding 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon and 1/8

teaspoonful of cayenne pepper to two cups of boiling water. Let the mixture

simmer for 20 minutes; cool; drink 1/4 cup every half hour.

==>Make peppermint tea and add two tablespoons of fresh onion juice (made from a

grated onion squeezed through cheesecloth); take a cup hourly.

irene.m@... wrote:

My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet

(not on

all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off. However he has

gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there something he can do to

help with the discomfort and to prevent dehydration. He is miserable and

is ready to take imodium. I looked in the files but didn't find anything.

Thanks,

Irene

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Thanks for the suggestions. He is better today but I will files these for

the future in case it happens again.

Thanks,

Irene

At 10:44 AM 12/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Irene,

>

>Sorry to hear about your husband discomfort. Here's the suggestions Bee

>has given in the past hope you'll find them useful.

>

>Maddalena

>

>==>To help your diarrhea, try to only have a liquid diet plus eggs, i.e.

>Bee's raw egg drink, broths, and teas, and also cut back on fats for a

>couple of days. To the egg drink add 1 tsp. cinnamon, a pinch of ground

>clove, a pinch of ground ginger, 1/4 tsp. of nutmeg, which also helps diarrhea.

>

>==>be sure to have the lemon juice (or use lime juice) and ocean sea salt

>in water (lemon or lime juice are very helpful for diarrhea & the sea salt

>contains minerals that are much needed to replace your electrolytes).

>

>==>There are a number of herbal teas that also help diarrhea, including

>chamomile, caraway seed, and blackberry leaf or root (root is best if you

>can get it). Drink 3-5 cups per day.

>

>==>Ginger is excellent as well. Add one teaspoonful of powdered ginger

>root (or finely grate ginger root) to one cup of boiling water. Drink

>three cups a day. This is especially good for cramps or abdominal pain.

>

>==>The combination of cinnamon and cayenne pepper are very effective in

>tightening the bowels. Make a tea by adding 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon and

>1/8 teaspoonful of cayenne pepper to two cups of boiling water. Let the

>mixture simmer for 20 minutes; cool; drink 1/4 cup every half hour.

>

>==>Make peppermint tea and add two tablespoons of fresh onion juice (made

>from a grated onion squeezed through cheesecloth); take a cup hourly.

>

><mailto:irene.m%40roadrunner.com>irene.m@... wrote:

>My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet (not on

>all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off. However he has

>gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there something he can do to

>help with the discomfort and to prevent dehydration. He is miserable and

>is ready to take imodium. I looked in the files but didn't find anything.

>Thanks,

>Irene

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> My husband suddenly has horrible diarrhea. Since he is on the diet

(not on all the supplements yet) I assume it is detox or die off.

However he has gone probably 8 times in the last hour. Is there

something he can do to help with the discomfort and to prevent

dehydration. He is miserable and is ready to take imodium. I looked in

the files but didn't find anything.

==>Irene, Imodium is toxic, and it is never the answer for diarrhea; it

will only suppress the symptoms, which will have to be healed in future.

Diarrhea is the body's way of getting rid of toxins, so it is not a bad

thing to have happen. Also, if he had diarrhea in the past the body

will re-trace those episodes during natural healing. Like others

suggested see the C) Digestion Folder for help. Above all do not

suppress the symptoms.

Bee

May 28, 2008

Hi - I'm realy sorry you're ill!

There is nothing about the band that can cause diarrhea. all we eat

and drink is absorbed normally. occasionally, people have loose

stools for a few days when they are on clear liquidster surgery, but

that goes away quickly, and never is a severe as you describe.

Something medical is going on in your gut, that is making it

impossible to re-absorb liquid - so your stools are watery and full

of acid. this is usually a bowel infection of some sort. Have you

been on any recent antibiotics? they can also cause transient loose

stools, byut should never be as bad as you describe. What about any

hiking and drinking from streams or rivers, or aqny outside,

untreated water source? Giardia is also a possibility.

I'm glad the doc did a C. difficile culture, as that is always a

suspect, especially when people have other medical problems.

A couple things to do now, while you await the culture and test

results:

1. Vaseline is a good skin protectant, and cheap. a good slathering

around your rectal area will keep the cautic acid inthe stool from

hurting your skin. you don't need any more problems!

2. Be sure to drink lots of liquids to make up for all the fluids

you're losing from the diarrhea. water is not enough, as you're

losing electrolytes (potassium , sodium, chloride, and othrs that are

not in water). Something like gatorade is better, but your doc may

want you on a special fluid if your potassium is alreay low - ask

her.

3. these things help reverse diarrhea, nd may help ven your sever

diarrhea - and will not HURT.

a. rice water - boil rice in a lot of water, and drink that. The

starch and other things in the rice help rverse the diarrhea.

b. applesauce - the pectin in it also helps reverse diarrhea.

c. NO apple juice - this increases diarrhea

d. avoid cirrus and acid-y things. your poor gut doesn't need acids

right now. for this reason also, stop any vits or vit c for nowa-also

an acid.

e. rice itself is helpful - if you can normally tolerate it.

f. usually, dry toiast is also on the anti-diarrhea diet, but , a a

bandster, i would NOT use this. If you have kids,you may recognize

thi diet as the " B.R.A.T. " diet to reduce diahhea. It also helps

adults.

g. Be VERY careful with meds- be certain all are either cut up small

or a liquid. your entire gut is very irritated right now, and you

don'r need stoma problems too. The flagyl is large, so be sure you

cut it in small pieces.

You'll ill, so don't be too hard on yourself. Hangaround teh house

and take good care of yourself, while they decide what is wronmg and

how to treat it.

Hope you're well again VERY soon1

Sandy r

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> ï»¿

> Has anyone else experienced diarrhea after lap band? I have been

banded

> since July 07. I have had diarrhea for 3 weeks now,and I do mean

severe

> diarrhea. I have defecated myself in my sleep every night for the

last week.

> So, I have resorted to wearing diapers now to bed. I dont know if

it is to

> do with the band or not. I went to the Dr this morning and she ran

tests and

> done some blood work, stoll samples. So far h pylori is negative,

cbc is

> good. Calcium level is good, my potassium is low but otherwise all

ok so far

> Still waiting on a few more things, c diff culture and all. She

put me on

> flagyl and lonox.

>

> I am at my wits end and ready to cry I cant go anywhere for fear of

soiling myself!

>

May 28, 2008

I had problems like that while I was on a liquid diet, but once I added solids

back in it cleared up. N

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Has anyone else experienced diarrhea after lap band? I have been banded

since July 07. I have had diarrhea for 3 weeks now,and I do mean severe

diarrhea. I have defecated myself in my sleep every night for the last week.

So, I have resorted to wearing diapers now to bed. I dont know if it is to

do with the band or not. I went to the Dr this morning and she ran tests and

done some blood work, stoll samples. So far h pylori is negative, cbc is

good. Calcium level is good, my potassium is low but otherwise all ok so far

Still waiting on a few more things, c diff culture and all. She put me on

flagyl and lonox.

I am at my wits end and ready to cry I cant go anywhere for fear of soiling

myself!

May 29, 2008

> I let DS off the " GFCFSF no artificials diet " this weekend and his

> poor tummy and tush are paying dearly. His poops are liquid and frothy

> and have little things floating in them. I'm wondering what (if

> anything) I can give him to help get the poop back to (just about)

> normal.

Go back to the diet he was on before.

Try giving some Pepcid AC or activated charcoal.

Dana

May 29, 2008

I had loose bowels at first, but I think it was from the liquids and soft foods.

Now I have days I'd pray for loose bowels! I think I'll hit the Milk of

Magnesia tonight!!! Sometimes being a loser is a GOOD thing! 5'11 " 306 /

254 / 189 PreOp / Now/ Goal Banded 09/14/06

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ï»¿ Has anyone else experienced diarrhea after lap band? I have been bandedsince

July 07. I have had diarrhea for 3 weeks now,and I do mean severediarrhea. I

have defecated myself in my sleep every night for the last week.So, I have

resorted to wearing diapers now to bed. I dont know if it is todo with the band

or not. I went to the Dr this morning and she ran tests anddone some blood work,

stoll samples. So far h pylori is negative, cbc isgood. Calcium level is good,

my potassium is low but otherwise all ok so farStill waiting on a few more

things, c diff culture and all. She put me onflagyl and lonox. I am at my wits

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May 29, 2008

Hi Sandy, thank you for your response. No recent antibiotics, other than the

flagyl which I started yesterday for the diarrhea.

No hiking or drinking water from streams or anything of the sort.

I did go and get soem baby wipes and desitin and some diapers. So, I am all

set up as far as that goes because my bottom was sore!!

The nurse did call me today and said so far my bloodwork is good, as I said

before. The H Pylori is negative, the only thing suspect is my potassium and

my liver enzymes are increased. My potassium is low, so they chose to put me

on potassium pills which I will pick up in a bit.

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