Re: Aspie characters in SciFi

January 31, 2006

-i know this is not SciFi,but Felix from " The Odd Couple " seems to me

like a combo of OCD(his compulsive neatness)and AS.He tends to go on

about things in an Aspie way,like in a episode where was not

feeling well and Felix kept bugging him reading from a newspaper

article about Bolivian chickens.Also,his social cues are off.When he

took a poetry class,he went overboard with the rhyming exercise and

started saying rhymes out loud for everything he saw.His girlfriend

says " I was afraid to pick up a GLASS " .I have heard that the original

reference was to a hockey PUCK but it was deemed too naughty

lol.Kajira

-- In , Arania Lawakiro

<csparania@k...> wrote:

>

> Ender wrote:

>

> >I was thinking of " Trouble with Tribbils " and Kirk ordering

to

> >take shore leave when wanted to catch up on engineering

journal

> >and manuals... but that one episode that was not written by the

> >regular writers... also " Wolf in the Fold " and " Lights of Zatar "

> >(spelling?) Kirk and McCoy are concerned about his lack of

> >relationships and overly intense relationship.

> >

> >y is friendly and likable but the Enterprise is his one love

and

> >the crew his family...

> >

> True, you have a point there. There were also a few other instances

> where he tried to avoid having to meet lots of new people, even in

the

> books.

>

> This made me think of Geordi, too - although it's partly his

blindness,

> he's at least terribly shy and made some interesting blunders in

his

> relationships and pseudo-relationships.

>

> Lwaxy

>

January 31, 2006

VISIGOTH@... wrote:

> I think we are treading on marshy ground here. Saying fictional aliens

> are AS is kind of pointless. The main objection here is that they are

> aliens. How any of them act may be completely normal for their race

> and so have nothing to do with the human quality of AS. Odo for

> example is a colony creature, so his whole being, physical and mental,

> is very different from our own. The Vulcans are actually more like NTs

> who have forced themselves to adopt logic because in times past they

> were close to killing themselves off with constant warfare.

Yeah, but it's more like " finding the Aspie mindset. " Doesn't matter if

that's normal or not for their race )

Lwaxy

January 31, 2006

> Mr. was my second favorite character after Spock. He certainly

> wasn't AS though. was gregarious, outgoing, combative and loved

> his alcohol. Still, I think he would have been a better Captain than

> Kirk.

Yup, he definitely would have been better )

Lwaxy

January 31, 2006

> Quite often in books I read I can spot aspie like tendencies in some > characters (usually one of the main characters) and wonder where the > author is drawing from for these characters?> >

There's Malvolio in Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night." I included my thoughts on this in a paper I wrote about Malvolio for a grad ENG class. The prof didn't think too much of that part. . However, I came out with a B.

Other fictional prospects:

Boo Radley in "To Kill a Mockingbird"

Fodder Wing in "The Yearling"

and a film:

"Monsieur Hire" (French, '89 or so): The title role is very interesting. Anyone ever see it? It's an adaptation of a Simenon mystery.

Authors draw from within and from "real life." We are part of real life.

Amy

January 31, 2006

Of course, my examples were not from Sci-fi, just fi.

Authors draw from within and from "real life." We are part of real life.

Amy

January 31, 2006

Of course, my examples were not from Sci-fi, just fi.

Authors draw from within and from "real life." We are part of real life.

Amy

February 1, 2006

I was thinking Monk was an Aspie, but the OCD takes precedence

because it's so pronounced.

> > >

> > > >And of course Chief Engineering Officer Montgomery STOS

> > > >

> > >y is everything but Aspie. He's very social - for a Scot,

hehe

> > >

> > >Lwaxy

> >

>

February 1, 2006

>> > > Mr. was my second favorite character after Spock. He certainly > > wasn't AS though. was gregarious, outgoing, combative and loved > > his alcohol. Still, I think he would have been a better Captain than > > Kirk.> > Yup, he definitely would have been better )> > Lwaxy

Kirk: 'I don't know...what you're...talking about. I am a...great captain.' Here are some actual quotes:

Kirk: "It's a mystery, I don't like mysteries, they give me a bellyache, and I've got a beauty right now."

Kirk: "Bones, there's a...thing...out there." Bones: "Why is any object we don't understand always called a 'thing'?"

Decker: "V'ger expects an answer." Kirk: "I don't know the question."

Kirk: "I'm a soldier, not a diplomat."

Navigator: "Heading, sir?" Kirk: "Out there. Thataway."

Kirk: "No, I'm from Iowa. I just work in outer space."

>

February 1, 2006

>> > > Mr. was my second favorite character after Spock. He certainly > > wasn't AS though. was gregarious, outgoing, combative and loved > > his alcohol. Still, I think he would have been a better Captain than > > Kirk.> > Yup, he definitely would have been better )> > Lwaxy

Kirk: 'I don't know...what you're...talking about. I am a...great captain.' Here are some actual quotes:

Kirk: "It's a mystery, I don't like mysteries, they give me a bellyache, and I've got a beauty right now."

Kirk: "Bones, there's a...thing...out there." Bones: "Why is any object we don't understand always called a 'thing'?"

Decker: "V'ger expects an answer." Kirk: "I don't know the question."

Kirk: "I'm a soldier, not a diplomat."

Navigator: "Heading, sir?" Kirk: "Out there. Thataway."

Kirk: "No, I'm from Iowa. I just work in outer space."

>

February 1, 2006

Haha, now if we take y:

y: Just before they went into warp, I beamed the whole kit and

kaboodle into their engine room, where they'll be no trouble at all. "

McCoy: What in the name of heaven is this?

y: Heaven's got very little to do with this.

y: A can'nae change the laws of physics. A've got to have thirty

minutes.

y: The more overtech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the

drain.

Kirk/Spock/McCoy: " Stand back?! "

(insert loud explosion soud)

y: " What are ya standin' there for? Da ya not know a jail break

when ya see one. "

Spock: Ahh, Mr. , I understand you're having difficulty with the

warp drive. How much time do you require for repair.

y: There's nothing wrong with the bloody thing!

Spock: Mr. , if we return to Spacedock, the assassins will surely

find a way to dispose of their incriminating footwear, and we will never

see the captain, or Dr. McCoy, alive again.

y: Could take Weeks, sir

Spock: Thank you, Mr. .

y: The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank.

Yup, definitely y )

Lwaxy

February 1, 2006

Possibly some " high functioning " Aspies use things like OCD, SPD,

stiming as methods of coping with the world... and those coping

mechanisms are more obvious than the subtler Aspie traits...

Ender

At 10:18 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:

>I was thinking Monk was an Aspie, but the OCD takes precedence

>because it's so pronounced.

February 1, 2006

I like y's quips! I had read the quote from The Trouble with

Tribbles as '...where they'll be no tribble at all' or was that he

ish accent making it sound so?

>

> Haha, now if we take y:

>

> y: Just before they went into warp, I beamed the whole kit and

> kaboodle into their engine room, where they'll be no trouble at

all. "

>

> McCoy: What in the name of heaven is this?

> y: Heaven's got very little to do with this.

>

> y: A can'nae change the laws of physics. A've got to have

thirty

> minutes.

>

> y: The more overtech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up

the

> drain.

>

> Kirk/Spock/McCoy: " Stand back?! "

> (insert loud explosion soud)

> y: " What are ya standin' there for? Da ya not know a jail

break

> when ya see one. "

>

> Spock: Ahh, Mr. , I understand you're having difficulty with

the

> warp drive. How much time do you require for repair.

> y: There's nothing wrong with the bloody thing!

> Spock: Mr. , if we return to Spacedock, the assassins will

surely

> find a way to dispose of their incriminating footwear, and we will

never

> see the captain, or Dr. McCoy, alive again.

> y: Could take Weeks, sir

> Spock: Thank you, Mr. .

>

> y: The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank.

>

> Yup, definitely y )

>

> Lwaxy

>

February 2, 2006

--Supposedly,Monk was " normal " but after his wife was killed he

developed OCD.i suspect he had OCD or AS tendencies before the

tragedy and they just became more pronounced,just as i think that the

theory that trauma causes weird symptoms in kids(like " Tommy " )does

not work unless the kid had something going on beforehand.Monk acts

very OCD,he reminds me of my brother,who is OCD but deals with it and

does not need meds.He has a good business,happy marriage,and a very

smart(CLEARLY undiagnosed AS)early-'20's child.But he has those weird

habits etc. Kajira

- In , " mikecarrie01 "

<mikecarrie01@...> wrote:

>

> I was thinking Monk was an Aspie, but the OCD takes precedence

> because it's so pronounced.

>

> > > >

> > > > >And of course Chief Engineering Officer Montgomery STOS

> > > > >

> > > >y is everything but Aspie. He's very social - for a Scot,

> hehe

> > > >

> > > >Lwaxy

> > >

> >

>

February 2, 2006

-Yeah,like Felix from " The Odd Couple " ! Kajira

-- In , Ender <ender@...> wrote:

>

> Possibly some " high functioning " Aspies use things like OCD, SPD,

> stiming as methods of coping with the world... and those coping

> mechanisms are more obvious than the subtler Aspie traits...

>

> Ender

>

> At 10:18 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:

> >I was thinking Monk was an Aspie, but the OCD takes precedence

> >because it's so pronounced.

>

February 4, 2006

That science fiction category in Jeopardy the other day put me in the mood to read a little science fiction by Heinlein, and I came across this song that's to the tune of the Caissons song. Hear them hum! Watch them run!Oh, our job is never done, For our roadways go rolling along! While you ride, While you glide, We are watching 'down inside', So your roadways keep rolling along! Oh, it's Hie! Hie! Hee! The rotor men are we- Check off the sectors loud and strong! (spoken)One! Two! Three! Anywhere you go You are bound to know That your roadways are rolling along! (Shouted) KEEP THEM ROLLING! That your roadways are rolling along!

- Helps protect you from nasty viruses.

February 4, 2006

That science fiction category in Jeopardy the other day put me in the mood to read a little science fiction by Heinlein, and I came across this song that's to the tune of the Caissons song. Hear them hum! Watch them run!Oh, our job is never done, For our roadways go rolling along! While you ride, While you glide, We are watching 'down inside', So your roadways keep rolling along! Oh, it's Hie! Hie! Hee! The rotor men are we- Check off the sectors loud and strong! (spoken)One! Two! Three! Anywhere you go You are bound to know That your roadways are rolling along! (Shouted) KEEP THEM ROLLING! That your roadways are rolling along!

- Helps protect you from nasty viruses.

February 18, 2006

I used to love The Odd Couple - especially the original series with Tony

Randall- and always identified with Felix. I felt so sorry for him having to

live with a slob like .

Also saw the movie a few years ago and got a good laugh at myself since Jack

Lemmon was SO like me in it.

Inger