Re: Things are looking up...

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 9:58:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Agaw12577@... writes:

<< I am not sure if you guys knew this but I have had a tough couple of days.

I

had a bad day of eating on Thursday. Then I didn't work out on Friday. Out

of

guilt I ate even more. When I got on the scale Saturday, I was up 5 pounds.

That set me up for one of the worst binges I have had in a long time. The

logical side of me knew that the 5 pounds were from bloating. Unfortunately,

my new birth control pills are causing me some new problems (bloating and an

early period that has lasted 2 weeks)! My hands were swollen, my rings were

tight, I was obviously bloated. But my dysfunctional mind didn't see it that

way. I was sure that in 3 days of bad eating I had packed in enough calories

to gain 5 pounds (is that even possible?) By Sunday, I had calmed down. My

eating yesterday was a big improvement over the days before it. Today I have

recommitted myself to drinking water and focusing on Tae-Bo. I feel a

million

times better and I can tell that this week is going to be a good one! I got

on the scale this morning and not only are the five pounds gone, but an

extra

one too (169 this morning)! Go figure! I am sure seeing the numbers go down

helped with my positive attitude. I don't like the scale influencing my

mood,

whether it be good or bad. So, I am going to put it away for a while. I

hadn't had a relapse like this in quite awhile. I am disappointed that I

wasn't able to deal with my emotions in different way. I went back to my old

destructive habits. But I guess you can't cure an eating disorder over

night.

I have seen major improvements since starting Tae-Bo. I am making progress,

I

guess that is what matters =)

>>

Hi !!! I'm sorry to hear that you had a rough few days !! I'm sure you

were just bloated because of the new pills !! I'm glad that the 5 lbs came

off - plus 1 !! Good for you !! Don't worry to much - everyone has there bad

days and old habits do occur from time to time - your human !!! You sound as

if you are doing great right now - you have the right attitude !! I " m

thinking about ya - keep up the good work !!

Pam

March 20, 2000

Yes , a sudden large weight gain is only water bloat just as a sudden

large weight loss is only water loss cuz fat doesn't go on and off so quickly.

As far as the binging, although you feel it was just emotional, maybe just

maybe, your metabolism needed the extra fuel too, especially while adapting

to this new menstrual cycle. Your metabolism has been supercharged since

starting your weightloss and TB so don't fret about what you do on days that

your will seems weaker.

If you are usually making healthy food choices and exercising regular,

what you eat on any one day (or three) isn't going to affect the big picture

that much but fretting over the scale can ruin what could have been a

perfectly good day too.

Barb

who defintely loses more on the scale by eating more and hasn't let the scale

affect my attitude much during the 10 month plateau or else would have surely

given up

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 10:06:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Pamela1897@... writes:

<< Hi !!! I'm sorry to hear that you had a rough few days !! I'm sure

you

were just bloated because of the new pills !! I'm glad that the 5 lbs came

off - plus 1 !! Good for you !! Don't worry to much - everyone has there bad

days and old habits do occur from time to time - your human !!! You sound as

if you are doing great right now - you have the right attitude !! I " m

thinking about ya - keep up the good work !!

Pam >>

Thanks for the support Pam! I appreciate it!

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 10:10:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Horsemom2@... writes:

<< who defintely loses more on the scale by eating more and hasn't let the

scale

affect my attitude much during the 10 month plateau or else would have

surely

given up >>

You are an inspiration Barb!

March 20, 2000

,

Congrats on losing that pound. You broke the 170 barrier....which means in no

time you'll b working on that 160 barrier. For some reason I always get stuck

at those...but it feels great to bust em.

You know your eating the last few days might have had a purpose. When I don't

feel well I eat MUCH more and I think its because my body needs more nourishment

during those times.

Remember in those bloated says to cut out excess sodium and caffine and drink

extra water!!!! Yes, the water weight is only temporary, but if you feel bad

about yourself during those times (which you shouldn't) then maybe you need to

take some extra steps to avoid them.

I'm going through that time right now <sigh> and yes I am eating much more than

normal.

Yesterday I had a PB & J for breakfast, Lunch was two slices of pizza (I did take

all the meat, olives and some cheese off) and dinner was <;_(> a shared awesome

blossom appetizer at Chili's (my favorite) a salad and ahalf a plate of lettuce

wraps (I love those too) and a Calypso Cooler (another Fave)

Then I also had a serving of pineapple and a whole package of sun dried

tomatoes.

I think probably the big unhealthy choices were the drink and the

appetizer....but I had a large quantity of the healthy stuff while I was at it.

We all do it...and I think there is a reason for eating more during those times.

We just need to know not to continue the pattern after a few days.

In a message dated Mon, 20 Mar 2000 9:58:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Agaw12577@... writes:

> I am not sure if you guys knew this but I have had a tough couple of days. I

> had a bad day of eating on Thursday. Then I didn't work out on Friday. Out of

> guilt I ate even more. When I got on the scale Saturday, I was up 5 pounds.

> That set me up for one of the worst binges I have had in a long time. The

> logical side of me knew that the 5 pounds were from bloating. Unfortunately,

> my new birth control pills are causing me some new problems (bloating and an

> early period that has lasted 2 weeks)! My hands were swollen, my rings were

> tight, I was obviously bloated. But my dysfunctional mind didn't see it that

> way. I was sure that in 3 days of bad eating I had packed in enough calories

> to gain 5 pounds (is that even possible?) By Sunday, I had calmed down. My

> eating yesterday was a big improvement over the days before it. Today I have

> recommitted myself to drinking water and focusing on Tae-Bo. I feel a million

> times better and I can tell that this week is going to be a good one! I got

> on the scale this morning and not only are the five pounds gone, but an extra

> one too (169 this morning)! Go figure! I am sure seeing the numbers go down

> helped with my positive attitude. I don't like the scale influencing my mood,

> whether it be good or bad. So, I am going to put it away for a while. I

> hadn't had a relapse like this in quite awhile. I am disappointed that I

> wasn't able to deal with my emotions in different way. I went back to my old

> destructive habits. But I guess you can't cure an eating disorder over night.

> I have seen major improvements since starting Tae-Bo. I am making progress, I

> guess that is what matters =)

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step. "

> Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 11:18:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,

GalofGOP@... writes:

<< Yesterday I had a PB & J for breakfast, Lunch was two slices of pizza (I did

take all the meat, olives and some cheese off) and dinner was <;_(> a shared

awesome blossom appetizer at Chili's (my favorite) a salad and ahalf a plate

of lettuce wraps (I love those too) and a Calypso Cooler (another Fave)

Then I also had a serving of pineapple and a whole package of sun dried

tomatoes.

I think probably the big unhealthy choices were the drink and the

appetizer....but I had a large quantity of the healthy stuff while I was at

it. >>

Hey ,

It doesn't sound like you ate that much to me! I love those onion things at

Chili's! Have you ever had the " guiltless chicken pita " ? OMG, it is soooooo

good !!!!

Anyway, what happened with me, it wasn't about hunger or needing more

calories. It was 100% emotional. I had an outright binge, feeling miserable

the whole time I was eating. I usually eat a pretty large amount of food and

don't feel bad because I usually make healthy choices. You guys would have to

hear what I ate Saturday to understand what kind of binges I have. I had just

gotten off the phone with my dad. I told him that I had lost 75 pounds. He

said, " Wow, now let's see you keep it off " . That really hurt me. (This is the

same dad that when I told him I got 108% in one of my classes said, " Do you

think it is because you are really smart or everyone else in the class is

really dumb? " Ouch!) I had already been feeling insecure because of some

things people had said to me as " jokes " . With the weight gain, people's

jokes at work, and then my dad's remark, I lost it!! I ate 5 glazed donuts

and a 4 pieces of pizza over a 2 hour period. I was not hungry. I don't know

why I ate that way. But this is a pattern that I have followed my whole life.

I would get upset, eat until I got sick, and then starve myself for days. I

have gotten so much better this past year. In fact, I can't remember the last

time I went on a binge like this. I forgot what my point was! Oh ya, I don't

think my eating was my body needing more food. I think I am just plain

mental! LOL! Wow, that was all really embarrassing to admit, especially the

donut part! I just wanted you guys to see what one of my binges are. I'll

quit rambling now =)

March 20, 2000

> Hey ,

> It doesn't sound like you ate that much to me! I love those onion things at

> Chili's! Have you ever had the " guiltless chicken pita " ? OMG, it is soooooo

> good !!!!

> Anyway, what happened with me, it wasn't about hunger or needing more

> calories. It was 100% emotional. I had an outright binge, feeling miserable

> the whole time I was eating. I usually eat a pretty large amount of food and

> don't feel bad because I usually make healthy choices. You guys would have to

> hear what I ate Saturday to understand what kind of binges I have. I had just

> gotten off the phone with my dad. I told him that I had lost 75 pounds. He

> said, " Wow, now let's see you keep it off " . That really hurt me. (This is the

> same dad that when I told him I got 108% in one of my classes said, " Do you

> think it is because you are really smart or everyone else in the class is

> really dumb? " Ouch!) I had already been feeling insecure because of some

> things people had said to me as " jokes " . With the weight gain, people's

> jokes at work, and then my dad's remark, I lost it!! I ate 5 glazed donuts

> and a 4 pieces of pizza over a 2 hour period. I was not hungry. I don't know

> why I ate that way. But this is a pattern that I have followed my whole life.

> I would get upset, eat until I got sick, and then starve myself for days. I

> have gotten so much better this past year. In fact, I can't remember the last

> time I went on a binge like this. I forgot what my point was! Oh ya, I don't

> think my eating was my body needing more food. I think I am just plain

> mental! LOL! Wow, that was all really embarrassing to admit, especially the

> donut part! I just wanted you guys to see what one of my binges are. I'll

> quit rambling now =)

>

, I'll have to try that guiltless Pita!!!

It sounds like your father has some issues. Did his parents ever give him

praise or compliments? Doesn't sound like it. My father is the same way. I

know my grandmother has a big part to play in that. My goshthat woman is the

biggest complainer (don't repeat that Romie).

Maybe in his own way he is trying to compliment you. But nonetheless...next

time somthing like that comes out of his mouth remember that he is incapable of

giving a compliment at the right moment ans since he said whatever he said he

must of tried to say one thus you deserve one...you don't deserve a reason to

beat yourself up.

What have you done over the last few years to deal with emotional binge eating

in other circumstances? My thing now is to climb in the bath tub and then get

into bed for a few hours if I can...or get a cheesy magazine.

I still have some comfrot food though...my favorite being tuna salad sandwhich

from an on campus store her (which is really out of the way now) a big thing of

taffy (can't remmeber the brand...but yummy) and a Diet Dr. Pepper. After that

I usually head to the vending machine for a twix bar or some chocolate gem

donuts. Now I just cut out the trip to the vending machine and drink a diet

canfields chocolate soda.

Heres another idea....take the kids or just yourself to a movie. You can get a

snakc but every thing is SO expensive you won't be able to get too much.

Or you could always get online and vent immediatly to us..like I do with my MIL.

:-)

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 12:59:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,

GalofGOP@... writes:

<< It sounds like your father has some issues. Did his parents ever give him

praise or compliments? Doesn't sound like it. My father is the same way. I

know my grandmother has a big part to play in that. My goshthat woman is the

biggest complainer (don't repeat that Romie).

>>

My dad has food/weight issues and was kind enough to pass them on to me and

my sisters! He has gotten a lot better though. He is very proud of me for

losing all of this weight. He is the one who bought me the plane ticket to

see . He tries to be supportive but sometimes he reverts back into his

old self

<<What have you done over the last few years to deal with emotional binge

eating in other circumstances?>>

Hmmmm, good question! Sometimes I pop in the 8 minute tape. Sometimes I have

a good cry. Sometimes I read a book. It varies. Lately I have been pounding

the heck out of my heavy bag! That works wonders!!

<<Heres another idea....take the kids or just yourself to a movie. You can

get a snakc but every thing is SO expensive you won't be able to get too much.

Or you could always get online and vent immediatly to us..like I do with my

MIL>>

I think a big part of my problem is feeling so isolated. We sold our second

car before moving out here. So for the past 9 months, I have not had a car

during the day! I have been totally stuck in the house! Our credit is the

worst so financing a car is not an option. We are FINALLY buying my hubby a

pick up truck in a few weeks. Thank God for tax returns!!!!!!! So soon, I

will be able to get out during the day. I know that will help my emotional

state!

I really appreciate being able to vent here. You guys have no idea how much

your support means to me =)

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 12:28:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

slowens@... writes:

<< When that happens (and it will) you will have no reason

to beat yourself up because you ate too much for a couple of

days....there will be nothing to make you feel bad...because the thing

that used to make you so upset (the scale) has no power over the way

you feel about yourself anymore! Another thing that I have noticed is

that as you continue to eat a healthy diet...you will really start to

notice how bad you feel when you do eat lots of junk (and by " bad " I

mean physically bad...you will really notice the difference in your

energy level and how lethargic you feel) and you will simply not want

to eat as much junk. So, as hard as it is, please try not to feel too

bad about your little " binge " ....it happens to the best of us The

important thing is that you are back on track...you still have that

wonderful positive attitude...and you are well on your way to being a

lean, mean fighting machine!

>>

You always know the right things to say !! Thanks so much =)

March 20, 2000

In a message dated 3/20/00 12:05:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

etcarroll@... writes:

<< The binge reminds you how far you have really come. You're very strong

to recognize that. So strong, that I have no doubt that you will get

back on track soon. saw what is special in you, so did we all.

I'll be thinking of you. If this happens the same time next month, see

your doctor for a different pill.

Elena

>>

Thanks so much Elena! Your post meant a lot to me =)

who is wiping away tears...

March 20, 2000

Hi -I'm so happy to hear about your recommitment and your 6 lb.

lost.

I think your body was trying to tell you something. Perhaps you

weren't eating enough. Keep up the positive work. It does pay off.

March 20, 2000

[snip]

> We all do it...and I think there is a reason for eating more

> during those times. We just need to know not to continue the

> pattern after a few days.

>

Recently I've seen or heard about 'those times' when the hormones kick up a

fuss.

It was basically not to worry too much about over eating because of

hormonal changes, because there are equal days when you'll undereat, again

because of our cycles so it'll balance out in the end.

So, , it's partly natural anyway, and there's no need to feel bad

about it.

If I can find details I'll see about posting it, as I suspect it's in a

magazine.

BTW there are 2 very good UK magazines for healthy living one is Zest, and

the other is the UK version of Shape (in my humble opinion is far better

than the US version, because I used to get that too) between them they're a

great source on information.

Take Care

Jill

March 20, 2000

galofgo-@... wrote:

>Lunch was two slices of pizza (I did take all the meat, olives and

some cheese off)

ummmm.....what was left???? LOL

Susi

March 20, 2000

Agaw12577@... wrote:

>

> Anyway, what happened with me, it wasn't about hunger or needing more

> calories. It was 100% emotional. I had an outright binge, feeling

> miserable

> the whole time I was eating. I usually eat a pretty large amount of

> food and

> don't feel bad because I usually make healthy choices. You guys would

> have to

> hear what I ate Saturday to understand what kind of binges I have. I

> had just

> gotten off the phone with my dad. I told him that I had lost 75

> pounds. He

> said, " Wow, now let's see you keep it off " . That really hurt me. (This

> is the

> same dad that when I told him I got 108% in one of my classes said,

> " Do you

> think it is because you are really smart or everyone else in the class

> is

> really dumb? " Ouch!) I had already been feeling insecure because of

> some

> things people had said to me as " jokes " . With the weight gain,

> people's

> jokes at work, and then my dad's remark, I lost it!! I ate 5 glazed

> donuts

> and a 4 pieces of pizza over a 2 hour period. I was not hungry. I

> don't know

> why I ate that way. But this is a pattern that I have followed my

> whole life.

> I would get upset, eat until I got sick, and then starve myself for

> days. I

> have gotten so much better this past year. In fact, I can't remember

> the last

> time I went on a binge like this. I forgot what my point was! Oh ya, I

> don't

> think my eating was my body needing more food. I think I am just plain

>

> mental! LOL! Wow, that was all really embarrassing to admit,

> especially the

> donut part! I just wanted you guys to see what one of my binges are.

> I'll

> quit rambling now =)

>

, that father of yours sure could use some more tact. With

negative feedback like that I would be hesitant to share " good news "

with him. I'm sorry that happened to you and that you had such a

difficult weekend.

The binge reminds you how far you have really come. You're very strong

to recognize that. So strong, that I have no doubt that you will get

back on track soon. saw what is special in you, so did we all.

I'll be thinking of you. If this happens the same time next month, see

your doctor for a different pill.

Elena

March 20, 2000

agaw1257-@... wrote:

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> But I guess you can't cure an eating disorder over night.

> I have seen major improvements since starting Tae-Bo. I am making

progress, I

> guess that is what matters =)

,

That is so true! I wish I could say you'll never have another

binge...but I can't.....sometimes it just happens. What I can say, is

that over time it happens less and less and because you are eating much

healthier overall and because you allow youreself to actually eat and

enjoy the things you want...the cravings aren't as strong and the

tendency to overindulge is not as frequent! But, it will still happen

on occasion....you will have moments where you revert back to that old

way of thinking and you let your emotions dictate what goes into your

mouth! We are human afterall, and after years of having this behavior

seem " normal " to us...it is impossible to think that we will never fall

back into our old habits! But, it does get easier and it will happen

less often and you will come to realize that when it does happen it's

not the end of the world and that the answer is not to starve yourself

to make up for the binge...but to simply get back into your normal

healthy eating habits. You start to understand that a few days of

binging has no long term impact on your overall progress and you become

less and less reliant on the scale as your only means of meausuring

your success. When that happens (and it will) you will have no reason