Vitamin A

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Thanks for your responses re: Vit A supplem!

C.

[ ] Vitamin A

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> My daughter continues to have a decreased vit A level dispite

supplementation. We have increased her CLO from 2 tsp to 3 tsp & her vit A

drops from 2 drops to 4 drops/day (5000 IU/drop). However, I just noticed

the drops are Mycelized vit A in the retinyl palmitate form. If I remember

correctly, according to Dr. Megson, she recommends the cis form of vit A &

recommends against the use of the palmitate form. Can anyone recommend a

supplemental vit A to use in conjuction w/ the CLO- if one exists?

> Thanks,

> C.

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You only want to use CLO. The palm. form does not absorb.

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wrote:

> Dr. Megson says cis form from CLO is best for our kids. What about

> cartotenes,

Carotene is not vitamin A. For most people, their bodies can convert

it to vitamin A as needed. For many autistic children, their bodies

cannot convert it. Also, certain children do not tolerate it.

>> palmitate?

This one is not absorbed well by many autistic children.

Additionally, my son does not tolerate artificials very well, and so

palmitate will really set him off.

>> What is the best absorbed form of Vitamin A.

For most children, cod liver oil [CLO] or Twin Labs Allergy A.

Unfortunately, my son still does not tolerate either of these. But

many children do.

Dana

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What do you give children who are sensitive to cod in replacement of CLO?

TIA,

>>For most children, cod liver oil [CLO] or Twin Labs Allergy A.

>>Unfortunately, my son still does not tolerate either of these. But

>>many children do.

>>Dana

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What do you give children who are sensitive to cod in replacement of CLO?

TIA,

>>For most children, cod liver oil [CLO] or Twin Labs Allergy A.

>>Unfortunately, my son still does not tolerate either of these. But

>>many children do.

>>Dana

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My son always reacts to cod liver oil badly. He seems confused and

shakes head side to side. Also does eye stimming.

We tested for cod allergy and there was none.

For now i've stopped cod liver oil.

-Geeta

> What do you give children who are sensitive to cod in replacement

of CLO?

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> TIA,

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> >>For most children, cod liver oil [CLO] or Twin Labs Allergy A.

> >>Unfortunately, my son still does not tolerate either of these.

But

> >>many children do.

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> >>Dana

[Guest guest]

> What do you give children who are sensitive to cod in replacement of

CLO?

I tried Twin Labs Allergy A for a few days, but my son had problems

with it also. But many people use that with good results.

Dana

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Interesting theory and you might be right! What are you doing about Vit A

now?

I gave my son 40,000 iu but just couldn't bring myself to go higher. He's

abotu 48 pounds. I know I'm a wimp, but he's been getting 10,000/day for

a long time. And being as the symptoms of Vit A toxicity are the same as

vit A depletion, I worry.

I should have gotten a blood test done on him.

His BM's are normal, not that this necessarily indicates anything about Vit

A. I wonder how many kids who respond well to vit A had v. bad

constipation?

M.

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> Normally her stool looks like dehydrated compressed rabbit pellets

and she

> takes 10 minutes to expel.

This suggests severe dehydration and might be corrected by giving her

more fluid, and also more electrolyte (magnesium mostly) so her stool

retains fluid.

Andy . . . .. . . . .

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She drank enormous amounts and Mg supps made little difference which is why

I thought seriously about the Vitamin A.

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> > Normally her stool looks like dehydrated compressed rabbit pellets

> and she

> > takes 10 minutes to expel.

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> This suggests severe dehydration and might be corrected by giving her

> more fluid, and also more electrolyte (magnesium mostly) so her stool

> retains fluid.

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> Andy . . . .. . . . .

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[Guest guest]

Your thoughts are right on target. For some additional information that

you'll find very enlightening read up on: Cajal's rhythm....haustrations

in the colon....nutrients necessary for normal, healthy mucous and

mucous membranes....they all tie together with your thoughts and the

results you see with your daughter.

>There are wide-spread reports of parents having enormous difficulty

re-colonising the gut with good bacteria.

One of the main problems I have repeatedly seen is they don't begin with

the re-establishment of the shape and integrity of the Columnar cells

which act as the flooring of the tube of the colon, and then the

re-establishment of the carpeting (the beneficial bacteria), that covers

the flooring of the colon. As a result of this lack of correct

re-establishment = leaky gut, dysbyosis, irregular bowel movements.

>Absorption of nutrients is minimalised and the downward cycle sets in.

The brain begins to starve.

You've got it.

Another thing about the last section of the lower colon is that is where

the majority of the reabsorption of water and the water soluble minerals

occur, IF the correct bacteria carpet the area and the cells are

functioning as they should and other conditions are right.

>Very elementary theory but ANY COMMENTS!!

Very elementary, but MOST important....BOTH BRAINS needs to be in

Equilibrium.

Dolphi

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> I wonder how many kids who respond well to vit A had v. bad

> constipation?

I don't know how many, but for my kid vit.A helps a lot!

He used to get constipated all the time. (we don't have this problem now

anymore).

Valentina

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> She drank enormous amounts and Mg supps made little difference

which is why

> I thought seriously about the Vitamin A.

Magnesium Citrate works much better than the other Mag types for

constipation just in case that wasn't the type you tried.

[Guest guest]

Could you by pass the problem, temporarily, by using miscellised vitamins and

angstrom sized minerals?

marti

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> I also listened to a taped briefing recently whereby Dr

> Cave (citing Dr Megson's work) talks about the benefits of natural

> Vitamin A. She cautions, however, that most of the stuff on the

> shelves is synthetic and doesn't do the trick.

I don't know what you mean by " synthetic " but I gave my son whatever form of

vit.A I could find/buy. It helped anyway.

> How much Vitamin A is necessary for a 55-lb child?

I give my 40lb child 50.000UI per day.

I would guess that 50.000UI or more should be ok for your son.

> How do I ensure I get the natural stuff vs the synthetic?

I don't know about that. Sorry. It seems to me that vit.A works no matter the

form. Actually, as I said, I don't know what you mean by " synthetic " .

Valentina

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> I've been reading recent posts about Vitamin A and have come to

> realize the teaspoon of CLO I give my 55-lb son each day is not

> sufficient.

Yup.

> I also listened to a taped briefing recently whereby Dr

> Cave (citing Dr Megson's work) talks about the benefits of natural

> Vitamin A. She cautions, however, that most of the stuff on the

> shelves is synthetic and doesn't do the trick.

She should have had to repeat chemistry.

Vitamin A from fish liver oil is natural vitamin A.

> My questions:

> How much Vitamin A is necessary for a 55-lb child?

Normal? not much. Impaired? 25,000 to 50,000 IU per day.

> How do I ensure I get the natural stuff vs the synthetic?

This is not relevant.

Make sure it is not " as carotenoids " or " as beta carotene. " The

readily available vitamin A from fish liver oil capsules are fine.

>Any recommendations?

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> Thank you.

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> Mindy Pois

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I recently increase vitamin for my daughter Sam however she is

getting acne from it. Any ideas? I hate to continue it will this go

away?

I know Vitamin A can have some severe side effects

Jeneane

Houston, TX

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I would cut it back a bit until you find the point it isn't doing

that. . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

> I recently increase vitamin for my daughter Sam however she is

> getting acne from it. Any ideas? I hate to continue it will this

go

> away?

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> I know Vitamin A can have some severe side effects

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> Jeneane

> Houston,

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> I recently increase vitamin for my daughter Sam however she is

> getting acne from it.

For two of my kids, they get whiteheads on their arms and buttocks

when I give too much vitamin A. So I would recommend you reduce it

until the acne goes away.

Dana

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Thanks I cut it down and her face already looks better. We have

tried several times to increase it but everytime we do - this is what

happens

Jeneane

Houston, TX

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> Oh Vitamin A... I understand that it is recommended to deal with

> high measles titres/levels. What else does Vitamin A work

> effectively to do.

Visual stims. For my son, it helped with language, social skills, and pretend

play, as well as eliminate the last of his visuals.

>>started Vitamin A a

> few days ago and I am seeing a differece. Is this the norm?

Which type of vitamin A? If cod liver oil, could be the vitamin A, or the EFAs

it contains.

Congrats!

Dana

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yeah the allergy a and d is good.

calcium citrate is an inorganic form and maybe not well absorbed ,

magensium orotate seems well absorbed but really i prefer to to get

calcium from cheeses etc. and also you really need magnesium chelate

as well

boys don't need calcium to the same extent as girls apprently.

basically for sleep the things i have found work best are very small

doses of lithium aspartate three tines a day, and a small qauntity of

true tryptophan and melatonin at night before bed.

> Hello everyone! Just wanted to post some results and see

> what you all thought. I have just recently,(about three

> days ago) started Calcium Citrate and Allergy A and D with

> my 3 yo ASD son. We have been doing all Houston's enzymes

> probiotics and yeast treatments for about four months now.

> What I think I'm seeing is alot more spontaneous speech in

> the form of labeling objects he knows and generalizing similar

> objects. Would this be the vitamin A? We are doing 10,000 IU

> a day right now. Should I try to increase this dosage?

> Also, we are still having some sleep problems. But he does

> much better with Calcium and an Epsom salt bath. Is it OK

> to do the baths every night or would a magnesium supplement

> do better? I am having terrible sleep issues with my NT

> 16 mo son. I started giving him the Calcium today because

> I know he doesn't get enough. Is he too young to try an

> Epsom salt bath? If not how much should I use in his bath?

> Are there any other ideas for helping his sleep cycle

> improve? Thanks for all your help!

> Elise

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> What I think I'm seeing is alot more spontaneous speech in

> the form of labeling objects he knows and generalizing similar

> objects. Would this be the vitamin A?

For my son, it would be the vitamin A.

We are doing 10,000 IU

> a day right now. Should I try to increase this dosage?

You can try it for a few days, see if you notice anything. For my kids, vitamin

A toxicity first appears as a skin rash, so watch for

that.

> Also, we are still having some sleep problems. But he does

> much better with Calcium and an Epsom salt bath. Is it OK

> to do the baths every night or would a magnesium supplement

> do better?

Probably either way would be acceptable, altho giving magnesium helps with other

issues also.

I am having terrible sleep issues with my NT

> 16 mo son. I started giving him the Calcium today because

> I know he doesn't get enough. Is he too young to try an

> Epsom salt bath?

Don't use as much epsom salt in the bath, and don't let him drink the water.

If not how much should I use in his bath?

> Are there any other ideas for helping his sleep cycle

> improve?

Remove milk and/or apple juice, try enzymes, add magnesium, don't let him nap

more than 90 minutes during the day and be sure the

nap ends before 3 pm.

Dana

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We use Twinlabs Allergy A 10,000iu's per tiny cap, 100 for $3 from iherb.com

Mandi in UK

> What Vitamin A product are you all using?

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[Guest guest]

Aboslutely Mimi, thats what we do for Sam. Its pretty bland tasting, he coped

well with 20 caps in less than 200mls of watered down pineapple juice, I

don;t think you would even notice one

HTH

Mandi in UK

> Does anyone know if the Twinlabs Allergy A vitamin

> caps can be opened and sprinkled in juice..my son

> cannot swallow caps yet.

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> Mimi

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