Kombucha

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From: " Heidi Schuppenhauer "

> >Like what certain bacteria? Are you saying that probiotics such as

kefir,

> >kombucha, and kimchi would be beneficial in fighting this bacteria

causing

> >high acidity, or that the bacteria they contain would cause the high

> >acidity.

> >

> >Just trying to figure out whether the three K's are helpful or hurtful

to

> >the malady at hand.

>

> Acidophilus overgrowth was what I heard caused the acidosis ...

> my experience with kefir is that it cures anything.

> The acidophilus was from yogurt or probiotics. But

> undigested starch etc. (from LOW stomach acid or food

> intolerances) would be a likely culprit.

Does kefir not have acidophilus in it?

~ Fern

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>Does kefir not have acidophilus in it?

>

>~ Fern

Probably ... but it has a lot of others also. The problem

for the folks with acidosis was:

1. They had lots of undigested food

2. They only had one bacteria (acidophilus)

In at least one case the person was on antibiotics

and taking acidophilus supplements, so there was

REALLY a good chance for the acidophilus to take over.

But the problem with probiotic supplements and commercial

yogurt in general is that there are very few species of

bacteria involved. Kefir, on the other hand, is an

amazingly self-regulated mix of bacteria and yeast, and

no one bacteria can " take over " .

However, another underlying cause to the acidosis

cases was *undigested food* which is more likely

to be your problem, if you have an acidified upper

intestine (AFAIK ... your practitioner may have ideas

I haven't heard of ... I really haven't heard of that

diagnosis before, usually you hear of bloating etc.).

Food is left undigested often because of low

stomach acid, lack of enzymes, or upper intestinal

damage (which can be caused by IgA food allergies,

the infamous gluten/casein/soy etc. intolerances),

or all 3. Also because of gastric bypass or other operations,

but you'd know if you had that ...

-- Heidi Jean

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From: " Heidi Schuppenhauer "

> >Does kefir not have acidophilus in it?

> >

> >~ Fern

>

> Probably ... but it has a lot of others also. The problem

> for the folks with acidosis was:

>

> 1. They had lots of undigested food

> 2. They only had one bacteria (acidophilus)

>

> In at least one case the person was on antibiotics

> and taking acidophilus supplements, so there was

> REALLY a good chance for the acidophilus to take over.

> But the problem with probiotic supplements and commercial

> yogurt in general is that there are very few species of

> bacteria involved. Kefir, on the other hand, is an

> amazingly self-regulated mix of bacteria and yeast, and

> no one bacteria can " take over " .

Ok, that makes sense. I'm taking Primal Defense, and drink kefir and

kombucha daily, and kimchi several times a week. So I imagine my problem is

undigested food, not the bacteria problem.

> However, another underlying cause to the acidosis

> cases was *undigested food* which is more likely

> to be your problem, if you have an acidified upper

> intestine (AFAIK ... your practitioner may have ideas

> I haven't heard of ... I really haven't heard of that

> diagnosis before, usually you hear of bloating etc.).

I do have bloating also. Definitely something isn't being digested

properly.

> Food is left undigested often because of low

> stomach acid, lack of enzymes, or upper intestinal

> damage (which can be caused by IgA food allergies,

> the infamous gluten/casein/soy etc. intolerances),

> or all 3. Also because of gastric bypass or other operations,

> but you'd know if you had that ...

Right, no surgery like that. And evidently I don't have low stomach acid.

Guess I'm wondering if it isn't an IgA food allergy ... I've been avoiding

gluten but not casein, and in fact have started drinking more milk recently

since we have access to raw cow's milk now.

Can upper intestinal damage be caused by something other than IgA food

allergy?

Thanks so much for your help Heidi!

~ Fern

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>Right, no surgery like that. And evidently I don't have low stomach acid.

>Guess I'm wondering if it isn't an IgA food allergy ... I've been avoiding

>gluten but not casein, and in fact have started drinking more milk recently

>since we have access to raw cow's milk now.

>

>Can upper intestinal damage be caused by something other than IgA food

>allergy?

Probably ... the only thing I've studied is IgA food allergies. " When all

you have is a hammer, all the world looks like a nail " ! Dr. says

the upper intestinal damage is due to lack of HCL, and the SCD people

say it is due to starches/bacteria. And now there's a group that's thinking

the problem is mainly enzymes. So it depends who you talk to!

There are also yukky things like parasites, microscopic colitis from

pain relievers, gall bladder/liver/pancreas damage, and cancer.

In IgA allergies the little villi get damaged, and this can and has been

viewed with a 'scope. Gluten and casein are both " sticky " and stick

to the villi, then the immune system attacks them and they sort of just lie

down and play dead. This can happen

with minute amounts, and it can take a week for the villi to recover ...

eventually they get permanently damaged or disappear altogether,

in which case it can take months or years to recover.

What does help some people is to do a " Pepto Bismol " diet ...

that is, take pepto 3x a day, and eat only meat, fruit, and vegies

(all cooked from scratch) for 10 days. A lot of people clear up

by then ... the Pepto helps heal the gut, and most allergens

are avoided. Then add foods back slowly, one by one.

You can also do the pulse test before and after a meal ...

you have to avoid the food for a week before the test,

they say, but it seems to be pretty reliable (it shows your

body doesn't like a certain food, it doesn't say WHY your

body doesn't like it, could be a lot of things).

> Thanks so much for your help Heidi!

Anytime!

-- Heidi Jean

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From: " Heidi Schuppenhauer "

> >Can upper intestinal damage be caused by something other than IgA food

> >allergy?

>

> Probably ... the only thing I've studied is IgA food allergies. " When all

> you have is a hammer, all the world looks like a nail " ! Dr. says

> the upper intestinal damage is due to lack of HCL, and the SCD people

> say it is due to starches/bacteria. And now there's a group that's

thinking

> the problem is mainly enzymes. So it depends who you talk to!

Hm. Which makes it even more difficult to know what it is. I suppose they

could all be true in different individuals.

> What does help some people is to do a " Pepto Bismol " diet ...

> that is, take pepto 3x a day, and eat only meat, fruit, and vegies

> (all cooked from scratch) for 10 days. A lot of people clear up

> by then ... the Pepto helps heal the gut, and most allergens

> are avoided. Then add foods back slowly, one by one.

That sounds like it'd be worth a try. Would you say after doing that for 10

days, and I feel tons better, that it's likely that I DO have an IgA

allergy?

I'm thinking it's time to get the Dangerous Grains book you've been

recommending.

Do you know if an IgA allergy could cause low functioning adrenals?

I was also just looking back through the archives, and did I understand you

to say that frequent urination is one of the symptoms of IgA allergy? I've

had frequent urination for years to the extent that my friend, who is a

nurse, made sure I got tested for diabetes, which was fine.

Anyway, thanks again for all your help Heidi. Who knows how many lives

you've saved with your willingness to share the info you know so well.

~ Fern

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>That sounds like it'd be worth a try. Would you say after doing that for 10

>days, and I feel tons better, that it's likely that I DO have an IgA

>allergy?

Or an IgE or IgG or IgH or IgM or inability to digest it (lack of enzyme). There

are lots

of possibilities, most of which are poorly researched. I like what my daughter

says though " if it makes you sick, why eat it? " .

>I'm thinking it's time to get the Dangerous Grains book you've been

>recommending.

Considering that it seems 30% of the US has problems with grains, I think

everyone should read it!

>Do you know if an IgA allergy could cause low functioning adrenals?

Yes. And liver, pancreas, thyroid, and gall bladder. This has been well

researched

with gluten, but the researchers think the same things will hold true for the

other problematic proteins.

>I was also just looking back through the archives, and did I understand you

>to say that frequent urination is one of the symptoms of IgA allergy? I've

>had frequent urination for years to the extent that my friend, who is a

>nurse, made sure I got tested for diabetes, which was fine.

I've heard this anecdotally, and it is very true for me! I used to have to go

CONSTANTLY.

It still happens when I react to something. It's almost as if the urine is

irritating. My tears

do that sometimes too ... they burn my eyes. I suspect the body is getting rid

of something

(maybe IgA).

I also got constantly thirsty (and hungry!) and had dry eyes and mouth ... I was

pretty sure I was diabetic, but never had high blood sugar. I drank water

constantly,

which probably had something to do with the urination <g> but never could

get properly hydrated. Also my joints hurt .. I was probably headed toward

Sjogren's

(which is definitely related to gluten at least). Some days I would wake up and

couldn't

open my eyes, they were glued shut.

As for the " anecdotally " part ... on the gluten intolerance list, people will

ask

" how many of you had " type questions and that one comes up a bit. The book

" Dangerous Grains " has more scientific numbers, basically it has a list of

diseases

where gliadin IgA intolerant people are " over-represented " -- no one has tested

ALL the diseases, but it's an impressive list. For instance, half of the people

with

" mental problems " are have high gliadin IgA (vs. 10-20% of the population with

that blood

test).

>Anyway, thanks again for all your help Heidi. Who knows how many lives

>you've saved with your willingness to share the info you know so well.

Oh, well, all in the day of the Glutenator <G>. (sheesh, this needs a good comic

book!).

-- Heidi Jean

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Heidi Schuppenhauer "

> >That sounds like it'd be worth a try. Would you say after doing that for

10

> >days, and I feel tons better, that it's likely that I DO have an IgA

> >allergy?

>

> Or an IgE or IgG or IgH or IgM or inability to digest it (lack of

enzyme). There are lots

> of possibilities, most of which are poorly researched. I like what my

daughter

> says though " if it makes you sick, why eat it? " .

Oh, I definitely agree. I'd far rather live without certain foods than make

myself sick. The problem is discovering *what* food(s) is wreaking the

havoc!

> >I was also just looking back through the archives, and did I understand

you

> >to say that frequent urination is one of the symptoms of IgA allergy?

I've

> >had frequent urination for years to the extent that my friend, who is a

> >nurse, made sure I got tested for diabetes, which was fine.

>

> I've heard this anecdotally, and it is very true for me! I used to have

to go CONSTANTLY.

> It still happens when I react to something. It's almost as if the urine

is irritating. My tears

> do that sometimes too ... they burn my eyes. I suspect the body is

getting rid of something

> (maybe IgA).

>

> I also got constantly thirsty (and hungry!) and had dry eyes and mouth

.... I was

> pretty sure I was diabetic, but never had high blood sugar. I drank water

constantly,

> which probably had something to do with the urination <g> but never could

> get properly hydrated.

That describes me also ... seems like I need to always have water at my

desk or with me in the car.

> As for the " anecdotally " part ... on the gluten intolerance list, people

will ask

> " how many of you had " type questions and that one comes up a bit.

Which gluten intolerance list are you referring to, if you don't mind me

checking it out also.

> The book

> " Dangerous Grains " has more scientific numbers, basically it has a list

of diseases

> where gliadin IgA intolerant people are " over-represented " -- no one has

tested

> ALL the diseases, but it's an impressive list. For instance, half of the

people with

> " mental problems " are have high gliadin IgA (vs. 10-20% of the population

with that blood

> test).

I just ordered " Dangerous Grains " today, and am looking forward to reading

it.

> >Anyway, thanks again for all your help Heidi. Who knows how many lives

> >you've saved with your willingness to share the info you know so well.

>

> Oh, well, all in the day of the Glutenator <G>. (sheesh, this needs a

good comic book!).

Hey, not a bad a idea. We even have an illustrator on this list (Sheryl)

who may be able to do the artwork. A cartoon about the Glutenator would be

an entertaining way of getting the word out about the evils of gluten.

~ Fern

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>Which gluten intolerance list are you referring to, if you don't mind me

>checking it out also.

CELIAC@...

I don't care if anyone wants to join ... I will warn you it isn't as EASY to

join

as good ol' , and I forget what all I went through (the main web site

has directions). Also it is a " summary " list, not as friendly as this one.

Has good info though.

>I just ordered " Dangerous Grains " today, and am looking forward to reading

>it.

You'll love it ... scary book though.

>

>Hey, not a bad a idea. We even have an illustrator on this list (Sheryl)

>who may be able to do the artwork. A cartoon about the Glutenator would be

>an entertaining way of getting the word out about the evils of gluten.

I can just see these little tracts we leave at the bus station, next to the

vending machine ...

-- Heidi Jean

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I have a few available. I'm in NYC.

Sal

Kombucha

Hello Peoples,

I am looking to obtain a kombucha pancake and 1/2 cup fermented

culture if possible. I live near Kutztown, Pennsylvania (between

town and Reading). I would be glad to pay for shipping and

some extra.

Thank you in advance,

M.

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laurainnewjersey wrote:

> Hello,

>

> i have some questions about kombucha.

>

> sally say, 'caffeine bad'.

>

> kombucha is made with tea that has caffeine.

>

> but, 'kombucha good'.

>

> so...what happens to the caffeine in kombucha? is it still there?

The caffeine is still there.

[Guest guest]

, did you see the other replies? apparently there is some

disagreement. some people here said the caffeine disappears.

laura

> so...what happens to the caffeine in kombucha? is it still there?

>

> The caffeine is still there.

>

>

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laurainnewjersey wrote:

> , did you see the other replies? apparently there is some

> disagreement. some people here said the caffeine disappears.

>

> laura

I am super sensitive to caffeine. Kombucha affects me the same as a cup

of tea.

According to the following sites, kombucha does not consume, or change

the caffeine content of the tea it is made from:

http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/FAQ/part01a.html#BM114t

for the following scroll down to " getting rid of caffeine)

http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/fermenting/kombucha_teas.shtml

The following article does say that caffeine is reduced 25%, but that

is not enough to ease my caffeine sensitivity when drinking kombucha.

Teas vary wildly in their caffeine content anyway:

http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/kombucha.html

If you search the web for kombucha, you see retailers mentioning low

caffeine kombucha due to its being made with low caffeine tea.

The caffeine does not disappear.

Best,

[Guest guest]

, thanks so much for the articles...i skimmed them and i'm

glad to know now NOT to use earl gray!! i was going to use up all my

earl gray tea bags making kombucha. that would be have been a real

oops!!

so, does that mean you can't drink kombucha?

if i were to judge the caffeine content by my body's reaction...i

would say there IS SOME caffeine in there as it does seem to give me

a slight caffeine buzz...but not enough to get me started in the

morning. i still need a cuppa something after the kombucha to get me

going.

so i'm going with the 25%, but who knows what it really is.

thanks again.

laura

> I am super sensitive to caffeine. Kombucha affects me the same as a

cup

> of tea.

>

> According to the following sites, kombucha does not consume, or

change

> the caffeine content of the tea it is made from:

> http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/FAQ/part01a.html#BM114t

>

> for the following scroll down to " getting rid of caffeine)

> http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/fermenting/kombucha_teas.shtml

>

> The following article does say that caffeine is reduced 25%, but

that

> is not enough to ease my caffeine sensitivity when drinking

kombucha.

> Teas vary wildly in their caffeine content anyway:

> http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/kombucha.html

>

> If you search the web for kombucha, you see retailers mentioning

low

> caffeine kombucha due to its being made with low caffeine tea.

>

> The caffeine does not disappear.

>

> Best,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've always read that a cup of tea is roughly 50 grams of caffeine (coffee is

about 100 grams or more). The NT kombucha recipe calls for 4 teabags in three

quarts of water. So if all the caffeine remains, then 1 cup of kombucha contains

the caffeine of about 1/6th of a cup of tea or 1/12th of a cup of coffee. Not

very much.

laurainnewjersey <laurabusse@...> wrote:

, thanks so much for the articles...i skimmed them and i'm

glad to know now NOT to use earl gray!! i was going to use up all my

earl gray tea bags making kombucha. that would be have been a real

oops!!

so, does that mean you can't drink kombucha?

if i were to judge the caffeine content by my body's reaction...i

would say there IS SOME caffeine in there as it does seem to give me

a slight caffeine buzz...but not enough to get me started in the

morning. i still need a cuppa something after the kombucha to get me

going.

so i'm going with the 25%, but who knows what it really is.

thanks again.

laura

> I am super sensitive to caffeine. Kombucha affects me the same as a

cup

> of tea.

>

> According to the following sites, kombucha does not consume, or

change

> the caffeine content of the tea it is made from:

> http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/FAQ/part01a.html#BM114t

>

> for the following scroll down to " getting rid of caffeine)

> http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/fermenting/kombucha_teas.shtml

>

> The following article does say that caffeine is reduced 25%, but

that

> is not enough to ease my caffeine sensitivity when drinking

kombucha.

> Teas vary wildly in their caffeine content anyway:

> http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/kombucha.html

>

> If you search the web for kombucha, you see retailers mentioning

low

> caffeine kombucha due to its being made with low caffeine tea.

>

> The caffeine does not disappear.

>

> Best,

>

>

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oops I miscalculated. 4 cups to a quart means 12 cups total; 4 teabags means 1

bag per 3 cups means 1 cup kombucha = 1/3 cup tea or 1/6 cup coffee.

JASON <spiorad@...> wrote:I've always read that a cup of tea is roughly 50

grams of caffeine (coffee is about 100 grams or more). The NT kombucha recipe

calls for 4 teabags in three quarts of water. So if all the caffeine remains,

then 1 cup of kombucha contains the caffeine of about 1/6th of a cup of tea or

1/12th of a cup of coffee. Not very much.

laurainnewjersey <laurabusse@...> wrote:

, thanks so much for the articles...i skimmed them and i'm

glad to know now NOT to use earl gray!! i was going to use up all my

earl gray tea bags making kombucha. that would be have been a real

oops!!

so, does that mean you can't drink kombucha?

if i were to judge the caffeine content by my body's reaction...i

would say there IS SOME caffeine in there as it does seem to give me

a slight caffeine buzz...but not enough to get me started in the

morning. i still need a cuppa something after the kombucha to get me

going.

so i'm going with the 25%, but who knows what it really is.

thanks again.

laura

> I am super sensitive to caffeine. Kombucha affects me the same as a

cup

> of tea.

>

> According to the following sites, kombucha does not consume, or

change

> the caffeine content of the tea it is made from:

> http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/FAQ/part01a.html#BM114t

>

> for the following scroll down to " getting rid of caffeine)

> http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/fermenting/kombucha_teas.shtml

>

> The following article does say that caffeine is reduced 25%, but

that

> is not enough to ease my caffeine sensitivity when drinking

kombucha.

> Teas vary wildly in their caffeine content anyway:

> http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/kombucha.html

>

> If you search the web for kombucha, you see retailers mentioning

low

> caffeine kombucha due to its being made with low caffeine tea.

>

> The caffeine does not disappear.

>

> Best,

>

>

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I get this Wonder Drink (they have a web site) that is comprised of Kombucha and

green teat and fruit. I presently have the lemon, but am going to get the pear.

I've never made it, am not totally sure of the benefits, but I like it as long

as I don't drink too much in one day as it WILL clean me out.

K.C.

Kombucha

As I am new to this list and this way of eating I have much to learn. I am

wondering how beneficial Kombucha is and if anyone has made it.Is there any

downside to it?

Phil

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Hi K.C.

I noticed you had joined the group last week and wanted to welcome

you. After Margie has her calf and you start selling your raw milk

again, I can bring you a kombucha mushroom and some starter tea if

you are interested in trying it. I have several cultures because I

have been drinking kombucha for about 9 or 10 months now. I strongly

believe it gave me a strong immunity to get through the winter

without a single cold or flu--first time that has ever happened to

me.

I always get some kind of bronchial infection and a cold or two

during the winter, but not this time. Everyone in my family got sick

except me. Even now my hubby is again battling a cold with bronchial

congestion. He won't have anything to do with my kombucha tea. And

he won't drink my kefir unless he's having IBS symptoms. When that

happens, the kefir clears it up in a matter of hours.

Again, welcome to the group. I have learned a lot from this group as

well as the kombucha group and the kefir group I belong to. They all

go hand in hand together.

See you soon,

In , " Tinybabe " <tinybabe2@r...>

wrote:

> I get this Wonder Drink (they have a web site) that is comprised

of Kombucha and green teat and fruit. I presently have the lemon,

but am going to get the pear. I've never made it, am not totally

sure of the benefits, but I like it as long as I don't drink too

much in one day as it WILL clean me out.

>

> K.C.

> Kombucha

>

>

> As I am new to this list and this way of eating I have much to

learn. I am wondering how beneficial Kombucha is and if anyone has

made it.Is there any downside to it?

> Phil

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I am going to try to start making kombucha tea. Can someone recommend

> a goo place from which to order the starter mushroom? I don't know if

> shipping time makes a difference but I live in NJ.

Ask on freecycle or Craigslist. I give out mushrooms all the time on

those boards. If you have to order one (I did), I got mine from

kombucha.org. Took them a while but it's been a good little mushroom.

Lynn S.

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Thanks I'll try them.

Phil

Re: Kombucha

> I am going to try to start making kombucha tea. Can someone recommend

> a goo place from which to order the starter mushroom? I don't know if

> shipping time makes a difference but I live in NJ.

Ask on freecycle or Craigslist. I give out mushrooms all the time on

those boards. If you have to order one (I did), I got mine from

kombucha.org. Took them a while but it's been a good little mushroom.

Lynn S.

[Guest guest]

>

> Can rooibos tea be used for kombucha? Thought I'd try just for

something different.

>

> Phil

>

>

[Guest guest]

If its a colored mold (black, blue, green, etc.) I would probably toss

it. If it is cobweb or white mold I would probably just wipe it off.

-

>

> I have a batch of kombucha brewing about 1 week old. I noticed a

spot of mold about 1/8-1/4 inch in size. Could I remove that part of

the scoby and try to save this batch or is the risk of larger

contamination not worth it?

>

> Phil

>

>

[Guest guest]

I leave the tea leaves in my kombucha, and the kombucha mushroom does

actually like to consume them and grow around them. It has always

worked for me to do it this way, and I have never ever had any problem

with contamination.

-

>

> I made some kombucha and I used green tea for the first time and I

> noticed there was all this dirt looking stuff at the bottom. At first

> I thought it was b/c sometimes when you make green tea, it's sort of

> dirty but then as another scobie was forming, I could see the dirt-

> like-matter suspended within the scobie. Does anyone know what this

> is and if it's safe to drink.

>

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Hello

Based on information I received on the Original_kombucha group, what you seem

to be talking about is the yeast (good yeast) created by the culture.

Of course, I've been wrong before :-), so please correct me if I am wrong.

Blessings

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Rogene,

I don't know the chemistry... But some tea just makes me sick to smell it... If you try it, let me know.... I have some tea straight from Japan that suppose to help the stomach... It takes like drinking medicine... I just can't do it.... If anyone wants to stomach the tea I will send it to you... I am done....

The book I am reading also claims there was cure for Cancer, it was a tea... The drug companies paid $30 Million for the man not to disclose it.... JERKS.....

Also they paid out a guy who had a cure for diabetes....

The auto mobile companies bought out this guy who invented a carburetor that we could all use one gallon of Gas for 1000 miles....They buried it, I would love to find it myself at $3.00 a gallon... That is sick.....

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY............

So guess Tea might be a good thing if we could find the right one....

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[Guest guest]

The Kombucha tea my Father has just tastes like sweet tea.............it is not bad at all..............

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