Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

[Guest guest]

peerreviewresearch wrote:

> Obviously the bias in this group is that the mercury preservative that

> used to be in vaccines is the cause of autism. This despite the fact

> that studies of hundreds of thousands of children report otherwise.

> Even if the rest of the world bows to your bias, you've still got some

> explaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of autism

> that present each and every day.

>

>

Actually, that is not my bias, however, I am not aware of any research

than demonstrates the safety of either Hg administration to infants nor

the safety of the very aggressive immunization program promulgated by

the CDC.

Can you provide some citations to support your assertion that Hg cannot

be a causative factor in the development of neurological disorders that

underly autistic behaviors?

Oh and I mean actual science, such as toxicology and in vivo work;

please do not waste my time with epidemiology, which cannot prove causation.

Thanks!

- Will

[Guest guest]

My comments to Bob and Suzanne via the Autism Speaks website:

To Bob abd Suzanne ,

As a parent and a daughter, I can imagine no greater betrayal than

your public statement. As a mother, I applaud your daughter, ,

for standing up and declaring what she believes in her heart has

caused her son so much pain. As a parent with a child affected, I too

try to spread the word about our children and the grievous harm

befallen them. I urge you to use your organization, Autism Speaks,

and the significant funding it enjoys, to do some REAL research into

vaccines, the toxicants they contain, and their effect on the human

immune system.

Sincerely,

Houston, Tx

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismsp

<http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> eaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismsp

<http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> eaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> Kirby

> > was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure

> for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue

> to

> > pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well

> as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports

> > its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud

> of the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers

> > who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> Speaks. We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize

> to

> > our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

They have to protect the' Machine', they are /have been part of it . They cannot admit that a lifetime work is misdirected. They probably believe that we would all drop dead from infectious disease if the vaccine programme was stopped / attacked. Perhaps we would / some would , but at the moment we are all dropping dead from toxic contamination of the environment or at least being so maimed by it as to provide a significant threat to a future functioning society.

Re: Statement from Boband Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

I honestly feel bad for for how she must be feeling right now. I cannot imagine a parent treating their daughter so badly. For not believing in her. She said nothing but good things about them and look what they are doing to her. Wow. Just when I thought (again) that AS just could possibly be the answer to our prayers...It's really sad.> >> > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php> > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>> > > > > > > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks> > > > > > > > > > > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our daughter's> > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect the> > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with Kirby > was> > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.> > > > > > > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure for> > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research programs,> > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue to > pursue> > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have impeccable> > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that> > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental> > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well as> > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.> > > > > > > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and supports > its> > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud of the> > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and volunteers > who> > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism Speaks. We> > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children with> > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize to > our> > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our > daughter's> > statement.> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids.>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, .

You see it clearly and tell it straight. I do not think it is helpful

for any parents to make excuses for Autism Speaks or to read behind

this public statement.

We know where Autism Speaks' stands - where they have always been. Now

is the time for parents who believe in environmental and vaccine

factors as the cause of autism - and in non-pharmaceutical or

alternative biomedical inteventions for treating autism - to STAND UP

and ACT.

In New York we have formed Autism United and we are planning events for

this summer and fall. Our web site is autismunited.org and is under

construction.

There is an alternative. One that will speak up for our children

without apologies, excuses or hidden agendas.

On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:58 AM, autismlink wrote:

What aren't you buying? It's right there in black and white. They

disagree with their daughter. When you do " branding " in marketing --

you quash anything that remotely dilutes the branding message.

diluted their message. She's canon fodder.

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismsp

<http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> eaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismsp

<http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> eaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> Kirby

> > was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure

> for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue

> to

> > pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well

> as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports

> > its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud

> of the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers

> > who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> Speaks. We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize

> to

> > our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]



Perhaps a CEO for "Tools' R 'US".

Re: Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

Great points, Bob Moffit.We are still waiting for "Peereviewresearch" to reveal his/her true identity.If "Peereviewresearch" holds such strong opinions why can't he/she tell us who he/she is?What are you hiding?On Jun 2, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Rmoffi@... wrote:Peereviewresearch writes: Obviously the bias in this group is that the mercury preservative thatused to be in vaccines is the cause of autism. This despite the factthat studies of hundreds of thousands of children report otherwise.Even if the rest of the world bows to your bias, you've still got someexplaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of autismthat present each and every day.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This "group" is not alone on the list of those who've "still got some explaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of autism that present each and every day". Surely the "constant stream" is a cause for alarm, not a source of "comfort", especially to those who "peer-reviewed" research insists mercury is not the "link" this "group" suspects it is? Perhaps you can provide your own "explanation" for the "constant stream of new cases" presenting each and every day? In any event, I would like to know what "peer reviewed research" you have that sought to "identify" the cause of "autistic enterocolitis" that thousands of "regressed" children experience? Indeed, the "identification" of the "cause" for colitis in 3 year old children ought not be any more difficult to uncover than contaminated spinach or Taco Bell lettuce. Do you know of ANY toxicological research studies COMPLETED that identified the "cause" of enterocolitis in autistic children? See what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

I put my message to the s in public. The more people who click

on it, the better the chances are it winds up right hext to the

Autism Speaks website on Google. If you don't like my choice of

words, write your own public message and stick it to these bastards.

http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2007/06/autism-speaks-sells-out-

their-own.html

>

> Peereviewresearch writes:

>

> Obviously the bias in this group is that the mercury preservative

that

> used to be in vaccines is the cause of autism. This despite the

fact

> that studies of hundreds of thousands of children report

otherwise.

> Even if the rest of the world bows to your bias, you've still got

some

> explaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of

autism

> that present each and every day.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------

>

> This " group " is not alone on the list of those who've " still got

some explaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of

autism that present each and every day " .

>

> Surely the " constant stream " is a cause for alarm, not a source

of " comfort " , especially to those who " peer-reviewed " research

insists mercury is not the " link " this " group " suspects it is?

>

> Perhaps you can provide your own " explanation " for the " constant

stream of new cases " presenting each and every day?

>

> In any event, I would like to know what " peer reviewed research "

you have that sought to " identify " the cause of " autistic

enterocolitis " that thousands of " regressed " children experience?

Indeed, the " identification " of the " cause " for colitis in 3 year old

children ought not be any more difficult to uncover than contaminated

spinach or Taco Bell lettuce.

>

> Do you know of ANY toxicological research studies COMPLETED that

identified the " cause " of enterocolitis in autistic children?

>

>

>

>

>

> See what's free at AOL.com.

>

[Guest guest]

Bones is that you under your new name peerreviewresearch? Prove me

wrong and reveal yourself,otherwise I will assume I am right.

>

> Peereviewresearch writes:

>  

> Obviously the bias in this group is that the mercury preservative

that

> used to be in vaccines is the cause of autism. This despite the fact

> that studies of hundreds of thousands of children report otherwise.

> Even if the rest of the world bows to your bias, you've still got

some

> explaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of

autism

> that present each and every day.

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

----

> ---------------------------------------------

>  

> This " group " is not alone on the list of those who've " still got

some

> explaining to do regarding the constant stream of new cases of

autism

> that present each and every day " .

>  

> Surely the " constant stream " is a cause for alarm, not a source of

> " comfort " , especially to those who " peer-reviewed " research

insists

> mercury is not the " link " this " group " suspects it is?

>  

> Perhaps you can provide your own " explanation " for the " constant

stream

> of new cases " presenting each and every day? 

>  

> In any event, I would like to know what " peer reviewed research "

you

> have that sought to " identify " the cause of " autistic

enterocolitis "

> that thousands of " regressed " children experience?  Indeed, the

> " identification " of the " cause " for colitis in 3 year old children

> ought not be any more difficult to uncover than contaminated

spinach or

> Taco Bell lettuce. 

>  

> Do you know of ANY toxicological research studies COMPLETED that

> identified the " cause " of enterocolitis in autistic children?

>  

>  

>

>

>

> See what's free at AOL.com.

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.autismmedia.org/media15.html

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with Kirby

> was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue to

> pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud of

> the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism Speaks.

> We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize to

> our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> with the Search weather shortcut.

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. Either Bob got a furious phone call from Bernie, or the

whole thing was drafted in advance.

Power is everything, and they're just hanging on to their base (and

us at the same time via ). Very smart...

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or

reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> Kirby

> > was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a

cure

> for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will

continue

> to

> > pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question

that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that

environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as

well

> as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports

> > its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud

> of the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers

> > who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> Speaks. We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of

children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We

apologize

> to

> > our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Few things....

First, I am sorry , for you having to go through

this.....recovering our kids is hard as it is and to have to be

subjected to this..keep your chin up and realize youre doing the

right thing for your family.....Also,if youre reading this maybe you

should stop here and not read this any further cuz things are going

to get harsh......

I find it hard to stomach the fact that any parent could

knowingly put their name on words that are so hurtful to not only

their daughter but also to their own grandchild whom is reaping the

benefits of therapies which treat vaccine/mercury damage in children

diagnosed with autism. To me this would be a slap in the face, one

which I would feel the sting from for a very long time....theyve

betrayed and her child....I cant even fathom how they could do

this and have a conscience.....

Supposedly they pay for the treatments yet they say to the public

that they do not agree with the beliefs that their own daughter has?

They are hypocrites in my opinion....do the PC " dance " for the public

while supporting something completely different in their own private

lives.

I also am finding it hard to stomach the idea that they rubber-

stamped this statement with their name on it or paying lip service to

anyone....that they either didnt agree with it and they chose to

allow their name on it to appease NAAR, CAN or whoever the hell

people are saying they think they have to answer to...Bob

didnt get to the position he was in with NBC by being passive and by

being complacent with people in business.....either they believe it

or theyre asses..If I were in their shoes, I wouldnt care about a non-

profit org I started or making others on its board happy, Id care

about my daughter and my grandchild, support her and her choices, and

appreciate the fact that she is out their trying to help her child

get better so he can live a somewhat normal happy and healthy

life......

NAAR and Autism Speaks are garbage org's that alot of people are

wasting their time and energy in supporting....Bob and ne

are hypocrites whom are apparently more worried about saving face

than supporting their daughter and their grandson...This statement

just fed my hatred for Autism Speaks and the jackasses that sit on

its board from NAAR whom are all close-minded assholes trying to

appease the pharmaceutical donors whom pay for their bullshit

research.....

If I were in s shoes, Id take the out of my name, go just

as Hildbrandt, tell them to stick their money where the sun

dont shine, and move on....without them.....

Ellen

[Guest guest]

I thought about the whole trojan horse theory too, but it's

impossible to see at ths point. Unfortunately, only time will tell

the true tale here. Until then, we're on our own.

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or

reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> Kirby

> > was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a

cure

> for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will

continue

> to

> > pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question

that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that

environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as

well

> as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports

> > its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud

> of the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers

> > who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> Speaks. We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of

children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We

apologize

> to

> > our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Don't you think they'd let their daughter in on their " waiting game "

if there really was one????

P

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or

reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> Kirby

> > was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a

cure

> for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will

continue

> to

> > pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question

that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that

environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as

well

> as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports

> > its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are

proud

> of the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers

> > who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> Speaks. We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of

children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We

apologize

> to

> > our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> We are still waiting for " Peereviewresearch " to reveal his/her true

> identity.

>

> If " Peereviewresearch " holds such strong opinions why can't he/she

> tell us who he/she is?

>

> What are you hiding?

It's not " what " I'm hiding, it why.

I have already been verbally abused on this forum as a " drug whore "

and threatened with other forms of abuse by others who purport to know

the cause and the cure for autism.

I'd rather be secure in my home and business rather than risk further

threats as I respectfully exercise my rights of free speech under the

1st Amendment.

Thank you very much,

Drug Whore

[Guest guest]

Could be true but if that was the strategy, now would be the time to

make the pitch on the hook-and-lateral. Old man just fumbled and

the other side scooped it up. The game is over IMO.

>

> I'm not buying this- just yet.

>

> Bob cut his teeth in the cutthroat television media market.

He attained great status. This man knows how to play.

>

> You fake right to go left and then run downfield.

>

> Autism Speak is designed as a Trojan Horse. But if you minimize the

damage from Autism Speaks Trojan Horse as you make changes, that may be

as good as you can do.

>

> Just a thought.

>

[Guest guest]

I'd be interested in knowing what drugs you are whoring these days?

>

> > We are still waiting for " Peereviewresearch " to reveal his/her

true

> > identity.

> >

> > If " Peereviewresearch " holds such strong opinions why can't

he/she

> > tell us who he/she is?

> >

> > What are you hiding?

>

>

> It's not " what " I'm hiding, it why.

>

> I have already been verbally abused on this forum as a " drug whore "

> and threatened with other forms of abuse by others who purport to

know

> the cause and the cure for autism.

>

> I'd rather be secure in my home and business rather than risk

further

> threats as I respectfully exercise my rights of free speech under

the

> 1st Amendment.

>

> Thank you very much,

>

> Drug Whore

>

[Guest guest]

Not necessarily. Maybe they didn't count on her being so

independently minded to buy into the AS/NAAR pro-pharma corporate

group-think.

Lenny

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> > Speaks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> > daughter's

> > > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or

> reflect

> > the

> > > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> > Kirby

> > > was

> > > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a

> cure

> > for

> > > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> > programs,

> > > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will

> continue

> > to

> > > pursue

> > > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> > impeccable

> > > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question

> that

> > > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that

> environmental

> > > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as

> well

> > as

> > > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> > supports

> > > its

> > > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are

> proud

> > of the

> > > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> > volunteers

> > > who

> > > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> > Speaks. We

> > > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of

> children

> > with

> > > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We

> apologize

> > to

> > > our

> > > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > > daughter's

> > > > statement.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Got a little couch potato?

> > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well I believe that in order for an intelligent and meaningful conversation to procede it is important that the parties get to know each other. As there have been many trolls pop on this board whose only purpose was to prevaricate it is understandable that your secrecy elicits mistrust. And it is quite laughable that you would think that any person on this board would in fact cause you any harm. Why such paranoia? Unless of course you really are a drug whore as you are proudly proclaiming and if you have any link to the continuation of thimerasol laced vaccines then we would.like to see is a public trial where you are answerable for your actions for the lives you have ruined. If you have no connections to a child with autism then the pain of the families on this board is something you cannot understand. And then I have to ask, why are you here? As the members of this board are more likely than the average person to actually read peer-reviewed

research your assinine comments make no sense. If you would kindly post the citations for whatever research it is you wish for us to review then that would be of great help and we can have a conversation. But really that is not likely. You like your secret identity so that you can take cheap shots and be impressed that you took on a whole board of delusioned parents and researchers single handedly. And it is not likely that we will be as impressed with you as you are. No other member here has a secret identity. Although I have seen quite a few "Wonder Women" myself. But we are not afraid to state our opinions correct facts or to discuss research. Using our own names. We take it in the chin sometimes, but we also know that the members of this board are well informed and willing to help each other with finding answers. So who are you again? And why are you here?

Thank you for your quick response,

Kathleen The world is not yet exhausted; let me see something tomorrow which I never saw before.- *************************************************************************

Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

> We are still waiting for "Peereviewresearch" to reveal his/her true > identity.> > If "Peereviewresearch" holds such strong opinions why can't he/she > tell us who he/she is?> > What are you hiding?It's not "what" I'm hiding, it why.I have already been verbally abused on this forum as a "drug whore"and threatened with other forms of abuse by others who purport to knowthe cause and the cure for autism. I'd rather be secure in my home and business rather than risk furtherthreats as I respectfully exercise my rights of free speech under the1st Amendment.Thank you very much,Drug Whore

[Guest guest]

I have never called you nor anyone else any names.

I will not engage you in any conversation without knowing who you are,

and I recommend that others do the same.

On Jun 2, 2007, at 2:47 PM, peerreviewresearch wrote:

> We are still waiting for " Peereviewresearch " to reveal his/her true

> identity.

>

> If " Peereviewresearch " holds such strong opinions why can't he/she

> tell us who he/she is?

>

> What are you hiding?

It's not " what " I'm hiding, it why.

I have already been verbally abused on this forum as a " drug whore "

and threatened with other forms of abuse by others who purport to know

the cause and the cure for autism.

I'd rather be secure in my home and business rather than risk further

threats as I respectfully exercise my rights of free speech under the

1st Amendment.

Thank you very much,

Drug Whore

[Guest guest]

Did some of the hired lackies at A.S. put words into the mouths of

Bob and ?

>

>

> http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

>

>

>

> Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

>

>

>

>

>

> is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

daughter's

> personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect the

> ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with Kirby

was

> done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

>

>

>

> Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure for

> autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research programs,

> including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue to

pursue

> them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have impeccable

> credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that

> genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental

> triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well as

> biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

>

>

>

> Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and supports

its

> scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud of

the

> accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

volunteers who

> created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism Speaks.

We

> welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children

with

> autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize to

our

> valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

daughter's

> statement.

>

[Guest guest]

I can not possibly imagine someone in their right mind nasty enough

to write a letter which specifically forced AS to sacrifice their co-

founder's daughter on the alter of appeasement.

's son has autism, and is not the poster child for some

futuristic-sounding genetic mutation crap. She is certainly not the

solo voice implicating vaccine zealotry.

As Americans, we are expected to be sophisticated enough to grip the

intellectually lite concept of respecting differing opinions. Given

that he is swimming in NPO shark-infested waters of his own free-

will, Sponge Bob is more than likely to present their greatly

confused, biased, slanted, unscientific, knuckle-headed view of the

autism epidemic.

Personally, I think the reason that AS put the disclaimer up is more

than likely related to difficulties with biased charity contributors,

namely the United States federal government. In order to be

appropriated any tax dollars, AS must maintain " the will of Congress "

which is NO connection between thimerosal/vaccines must be found.

If Congress, which is owned by big Pharma, smells even a whiff of

thimerosal and vaccine research coming out of AS their goose is

cooked.

If Sponge Bob has an ounce of self-dignity left he might consider

removing this disclaimer and privately tell the critics, real or

imagined, to buzz off.

>

>

> http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

>

>

>

> Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

>

>

>

>

>

> is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our daughter's

> personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect the

> ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with Kirby

was

> done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

>

>

>

> Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure for

> autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research programs,

> including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue to

pursue

> them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have impeccable

> credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that

> genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental

> triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well as

> biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

>

>

>

> Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and supports

its

> scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud of the

> accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and volunteers

who

> created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism Speaks. We

> welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children with

> autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize to

our

> valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

daughter's

> statement.

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to think that there is some measure of humanity left in Bob and Suzanne .

Either there is incredible gamesmanship going on to "right" Autism Speaks or Bob and Suzanne have done tremendous damage to their daughter, who has been such a hero to all of us.

I hope it is not the latter.

That is not to provide cover for the s or approve of what they do, it is just a recognition of the reality of that organization and how counterproductive their history and thought process on this issue has been.

Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

I thought about the whole trojan horse theory too, but it's impossible to see at ths point. Unfortunately, only time will tell the true tale here. Until then, we're on our own.> > >> > > > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php> > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>> > > > > > > > > > > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism > Speaks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our > daughter's> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect > the> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with > Kirby > > was> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.> > > > > > > > > > > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure > for> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research > programs,> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue > to > > pursue> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have > impeccable> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well > as> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.> > > > > > > > > > > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and > supports > > its> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud > of the> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and > volunteers > > who> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism > Speaks. We> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children > with> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize > to > > our> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our > > daughter's> > > statement.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Got a little couch potato? > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> >>

[Guest guest]

Based on my own personal experiences over the years with NAAR, I can

tell you that their recent attitude is not so recent. This is how

NAAR treated people. It seems to have only amplified at Autism Speaks.

I wrote to them years ago about their " Princeton attitude. "

-- In EOHarm , hcoleman <stratpat@...> wrote:

>

> I'd like to think that there is some measure of humanity left in Bob

and Suzanne .

> Either there is incredible gamesmanship going on to " right " Autism

Speaks or Bob and Suzanne have done tremendous damage to their

daughter, who has been such a hero to all of us.

>

> I hope it is not the latter.

>

> That is not to provide cover for the s or approve of what they

do, it is just a recognition of the reality of that organization and

how counterproductive their history and thought process on this issue

has been.

>

>

>

> Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne ,

Co-founders of Autism Speaks

>

>

> I thought about the whole trojan horse theory too, but it's

> impossible to see at ths point. Unfortunately, only time will tell

> the true tale here. Until then, we're on our own.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> > Speaks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> > daughter's

> > > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or

> reflect

> > the

> > > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> > Kirby

> > > was

> > > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a

> cure

> > for

> > > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> > programs,

> > > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will

> continue

> > to

> > > pursue

> > > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> > impeccable

> > > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question

> that

> > > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that

> environmental

> > > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as

> well

> > as

> > > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> > supports

> > > its

> > > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud

> > of the

> > > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> > volunteers

> > > who

> > > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> > Speaks. We

> > > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of

> children

> > with

> > > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We

> apologize

> > to

> > > our

> > > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > > daughter's

> > > > statement.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Got a little couch potato?

> > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Then he should just quit.

Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism Speaks

Could be true but if that was the strategy, now would be the time to make the pitch on the hook-and-lateral. Old man just fumbled and the other side scooped it up. The game is over IMO. >> I'm not buying this- just yet. > > Bob cut his teeth in the cutthroat television media market. He attained great status. This man knows how to play. > > You fake right to go left and then run downfield. > > Autism Speak is designed as a Trojan Horse. But if you minimize the damage from Autism Speaks Trojan Horse as you make changes, that may be as good as you can do. > > Just a thought. >

[Guest guest]

I would like to point out the name actually says "Pee Review Research". Perhaps she/he is on the wrong list?

From: Krakow <rkrakow@...>Reply- EOHarm EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism SpeaksDate: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:47:37 -0400>Great points, Bob Moffit.>>We are still waiting for "Peereviewresearch" to reveal his/her true >identity.>>If "Peereviewresearch" holds such strong opinions why can't he/she >tell us who he/she is?>>What are you hiding?&gt

[Guest guest]

Henry,

In all honesty, I think that is fair.

One thing that just always sticks in my mind is the testimony given at the

recent senate

appropriations committee. When Harkin began to ask about the number of vaccines

on the

schedule, it was Bob that shouted out the number.

The only people who know that number offhand and who would take the effort to

make

sure Harkin knows it is someone who cares about it.

Throughout this process, when reading transcripts and studies and so on, you

occasionally

find that not all are against us. Verstraeten, who has been publicly critisized

by some, was

actually trying to be honest and truthful.

Sometimes you have to dig deep and listen carefully.

The thing that bothers me is how they publicly threw her under the bus. I

realize that

NAAR people are furious and he probably had to do something to mend those

fences, but

he could have done so without going against 'her views'. Even the mention that

does

not speak for their organization is too much, considering it is formed because

of her child.

They could have released a public statement praising NAAR for all of their hard

work and

efforts, so on and so forth, without outing .

But, otherwise, I agree that we should wait and see what unfolds as time goes

on.

Col

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php

> > > <http://www.autismspeaks.org/wrights_statement.php>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Statement from Bob and Suzanne , Co-founders of Autism

> Speaks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > is not a spokesperson for Autism Speaks. Our

> daughter's

> > > personal views differ from ours and do not represent or reflect

> the

> > > ongoing mission of Autism Speaks. Her appearance with

> Kirby

> > was

> > > done without the knowledge or consent of Autism Speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks is committed to finding the causes of and a cure

> for

> > > autism. We are proud of our scientifically based research

> programs,

> > > including those established by NAAR and CAN, and will continue

> to

> > pursue

> > > them. The members of our scientific advisory teams have

> impeccable

> > > credentials and we fully support them. There is no question that

> > > genetics plays the leading role in autism and that environmental

> > > triggers are key issues for many children. These areas, as well

> as

> > > biomedical treatments, need huge research support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Autism Speaks merged with NAAR because it believes in and

> supports

> > its

> > > scientific mission, methods, and advisory board. We are proud

> of the

> > > accomplishments of NAAR and grateful to the families and

> volunteers

> > who

> > > created it. They are a tremendously valued part of Autism

> Speaks. We

> > > welcome input from volunteers and parents/guardians of children

> with

> > > autism of all ages, including adults with autism. We apologize

> to

> > our

> > > valued volunteers who were led to believe otherwise by our

> > daughter's

> > > statement.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

>