Re: Mercury and DNA

March 20, 2007

> > Because my tax dollars are being wasted on an NIH

> > trial for

> > chelation.

Then we are even b/c my tax dollars are being wasted on studies that

link autism to TV viewing.

--seriously though, is ANY study wasting money? You have a poor

attitude. Seems you should support such a study, results are results.

yes or no.

> >

> > Because when my son was diagnosed someone " trying to

> > help " insisted

> > that our son had been poisoned and that we had to

> > chelate him

> > immediately or we were failing him.

Well, the sooner the better.

> > Because vaccination rates are declining to levels

> > that leave everyone

> > susceptible to preventable and nasty diseases.

nasty disease that antibiotics can easily cure. --vs life long

autoimmune disorders... hmmmm what a toughie!

The

> > problem is so bad

> > here in my community that the local school system

> > had to

> > suspend thousands of students until they received

> > their vaccinations.

Studies show the majority of such cases are just parents who forgot,

or didn't make the appts or didn't have the money, etc. NOT parents

CHOOSING not to vax --after all, they have exemptions on file.

> >

> > Because children have died in serving the view that

> > autism is

> > poisoning that can be reversed.

> >

one. and it was a med error --med errors kill like 160,000 a year or

some crazy number.

March 20, 2007

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EOHarm From: christine@...Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:34:22 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Mercury and DNA

My son is doing very well with chelation also- and no side effects.

March 20, 2007

From Dennis Debbaudt's Autism Risk & Safety Newsletter, " Drowning is

a leading cause of death for a child or adult who has autism. " Nope,

not look alike/sound alike med errors during chelation.

Carolyn

>

> > > Because my tax dollars are being wasted on an NIH

> > > trial for

> > > chelation.

>

> Then we are even b/c my tax dollars are being wasted on studies that

> link autism to TV viewing.

> --seriously though, is ANY study wasting money? You have a poor

> attitude. Seems you should support such a study, results are

results.

> yes or no.

>

> > >

> > > Because when my son was diagnosed someone " trying to

> > > help " insisted

> > > that our son had been poisoned and that we had to

> > > chelate him

> > > immediately or we were failing him.

>

> Well, the sooner the better.

>

> > > Because vaccination rates are declining to levels

> > > that leave everyone

> > > susceptible to preventable and nasty diseases.

>

> nasty disease that antibiotics can easily cure. --vs life long

> autoimmune disorders... hmmmm what a toughie!

>

> The

> > > problem is so bad

> > > here in my community that the local school system

> > > had to

> > > suspend thousands of students until they received

> > > their vaccinations.

>

> Studies show the majority of such cases are just parents who forgot,

> or didn't make the appts or didn't have the money, etc. NOT parents

> CHOOSING not to vax --after all, they have exemptions on file.

>

> > >

> > > Because children have died in serving the view that

> > > autism is

> > > poisoning that can be reversed.

> > >

>

> one. and it was a med error --med errors kill like 160,000 a year or

> some crazy number.

>

March 20, 2007

Great to hear. My son too has made dramatic improvement with

chelation and has not had any negative side effects whatsoever.

For over a year (prior to chelation) my son had dangerously low

calcium levels which we could not elevate despite supplementation.

Just a few weeks after starting chelation his levels returned to

normal.

Pre-chelation he was rarely speaking, never interacting with anyone

unless he wanted/needed something, barely getting by in school,

eating only a few foods, watching the same shows over and over,

hardly ever slept, and had constant gut pain. He hated sunny days

as his pupils were perpetually enlarged. He didn't read books, he

lined them up in alphabetical order over and over. Little or no eye

contact.

Post chelation (one year later): Almost a straight A student. Won

the geography bee at his junior high school. Happy, witty,

creative. Makes up his own jokes - and they're funny. Rides his

bike around the park on sunny days; today he went jogging. Reads

stories to his little sister. Greets the neighbors, who are stunned

by the change in him. Chimes in on conversations. Starts

conversations. Talks on the phone, asks to have friends over. Has

an eye for architecture and is familiar with many significant

buildings in Chicago. Recently told me he wants to get married some

day and have kids. Follows directions better than the NT siblings

and has great eye contact.

Many, many people have commented on his improvement including his

teachers, his DAN doctor, friends and family members. He is happy

now, and enjoying life. Chelation Therapy and the DAN protocol is

without a doubt the best thing we've ever done for him in his 12-1/2

years.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kirby asked, " Can anyone tell me if

> > > > > >this [thimerosal exposure] could be related

> > > > > >to the " spontaneous " mutations mentioned in

> > > > > >the study? "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >The editors and reviewers at the journal

> > > > > >Science, one of the most prestigious research

> >

> > > > > >journals in the world, know the likelihood

> > > > > >that thimerosal was the cause of the

> > > > > >spontaneous mutations identified in

> > > > > >this study. They thought it didn't

> > > > > >warrant discussion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Maybe Dr. Hooker could explain to Kirby

> >

> > > > > >and to Dr. King just how totally unlikely

> > that

> > > > > >scenario is. Dr. Hooker is a genomic

> > researcher

> > > > > >and would seem qualified to explain this

> > issue.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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March 20, 2007

Rhodopsin writes why he "wastes his time writing here....we should be irrelevant":

Because you are trying to hold legitimate research ransom.

Confusion seems to be part of your problem. It is not EOH that is trying to hold "legitimate research ransom".....it is the CDC that refuses to allow toxicological research of thimerosal. If the CDC thought toxicological research would prove thimerosal is as safe and harmless as they (you) insist it is, THEY would be demanding the toxicological research be done. Instead, well-funded academic "economists" blame it on television.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Because my tax dollars are being wasted on an NIH trial for chelation.

Your tax dollars are no more precious than my own, and, I want chelation research done. I no longer trust the NIH to conduct any vaccine related research fairly, but, even poorly done research offers the potential of providing opportunity for good research to follow.

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Because when my son was diagnosed someone "trying to help" insisted that our son had been poisoned and that we had to chelate him immediately or we were failing him.

Poor baby, someone "insisted" you had to "chelate" him? You, my friend, were under no coercion by the state to "chelate" your child. I, on the other hand, was coerced by the state to vaccinate my grandson using a substance, routinely affixed with the skull and crossbone poison icon, that was NEVER proven to be either safe OR harmless.

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Because a local DAN supporter insisted we read a ridiculous book about vaccines producing hallucinogenic tree frog venom in children with autism.

You have my sympathy. Imagine being recommended a good book to read? The horror of it all overwhelms me.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Because vaccination rates are declining to levels that leave everyone susceptible to preventable and nasty diseases. The problem is so bad here in my community that the local school system had to suspend thousands of students until they received their vaccinations.

Your local school system may have suspended thousands of students until they received their vaccinations, but, who is going to protect these same thousands of students later in life, when the supposed benefits of their childhood vaccinations wear off, making them susceptible to these "nasty diseases" as young adults or seniors, when they are far more life-threatening and severe? Maybe their employers or health care plans will cause their suspension until they get their "booster" shots? Apparently, "preventing" measles will be a life-time of vaccinations, each one accompanied by the well-known potential of adverse risk.

By the way, perhaps you missed the latest CDC statement that autism has increased from 1 in 166 to 1 in 150? Or their statement that 1 in every 6 American children suffer some type of early childhood development, such as, autism, juvenile type 1 diabetes, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, allergies, asthma, etc. etc. I sure hope the nurse in your local school system is trained and prepared to deal with a student who suffers a life-threatening allergic or diabetic shock, because there are so many children at high risk suspension is not an option.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Because children have died in serving the view that autism is poisoning that can be reversed.

Obviously, you are quite willing to "waste your own time" spewing this crap.

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March 20, 2007

> > > > >

> > > > > Kirby asked, " Can anyone tell me if

> > > > >this [thimerosal exposure] could be related

> > > > >to the " spontaneous " mutations mentioned in

> > > > >the study? "

> > > > >

> > > > >The editors and reviewers at the journal

> > > > >Science, one of the most prestigious research

> > > > >journals in the world, know the likelihood

> > > > >that thimerosal was the cause of the

> > > > >spontaneous mutations identified in

> > > > >this study. They thought it didn't

> > > > >warrant discussion.

> > > > >

> > > > >Maybe Dr. Hooker could explain to Kirby

> > > > >and to Dr. King just how totally unlikely that

> > > > >scenario is. Dr. Hooker is a genomic researcher

> > > > >and would seem qualified to explain this issue.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 20, 2007

Six weeks into td-DMPS we the same things you are seeing with your

son. After about 5 months, he slowed down with the mercury

excretion, so we stopped. Then he regressed a bit; the teachers

noticed a decline in his organizational skills and attention. We

did the porphyrin test, which indicated he was high in both lead and

mercury, so we started IV EDTA. He has done about 10 IVs with EDTA,

Vit. C and glutathione, and we saw big improvements after the

third. We are also doing weekly IV's with Vit C and Glut only, 3 or

4 days after the EDTA. I would say the improvements with IV

chelation are greater than with transdermal. However, we will be

chelating for mercury again, probably with IV DMPS, when the

excreted lead levels pull back.

My son was also dx'd PDD-NOS. I can't answer your question about

ALA as we are not using it; however I do know a mom whose child did

very well with oral chelation (DMSA along with ALA). Hopefully she

will see this thread and answer your question.

>

> Can I ask when you started noticing the changes in your son? I

started Oral

> DMPS on my 14 yr old son and we are now on round 7. Teachers are

saying

> that he's a completely different kid than last year, more

talkative, more

> cooperative, trying new things. (He's PDD/NOS.)

>

> I've noticed at home he's more social, seems happier, saying more

things.

> Just not sure how much change I should see by now or if it's too

early to

> tell. (Also, does progress seem to accelerate if you add ALA?)

>

> Thank you in advance for your input!!

>

> Carla

>

> In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:05:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> kevntimmcd@... writes:

>

> Many, many people have commented on his improvement including his

> teachers, his DAN doctor, friends and family members. He is happy

> now, and enjoying life. Chelation Therapy and the DAN protocol is

> without a doubt the best thing we've ever done for him in his 12-

1/2

> years.

>

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March 20, 2007

Just starting the chelation process (7 rounds in) I'm grateful for your input and inspiration!! Thank you all for sharing your success!!! It gives me great hope!!

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March 20, 2007

We have been doing IV EDTA & IV DMPS plus Glutathione since August. We go once a week (fridays). He also gets some vitamins and minerals (I forget which ones) and we supplement with a ton of stuff on the off days. About every 2-3 months we do blood and urine tests and check all his levels (at a local lab). So far, everything has been in the normal range. We’ve also not seen any side effects (unless you call talking more a side effect). He did have a couple of weeks of melt-downs. But, he usually has problems in Feb-March. He’s an only child and being inside a lot during winter when you live in a small apartment would drive anyone alittle crazy.

When we do the urine test for metals he’s never really high for anything. I’ve seen other kids off the charts. But, he is excreting lead, aluminum, mercury and arsenic.

The whole process will probably cost us $15,000-$18,000. But, we are waiting to hear back from the insurance company, because they may cover some of it (cross your fingers). Other than supplements ($250 per month) and some testing we did 4 years ago ($600)- this is the most we’ve ever spent on autism- so I can’t complain. We do buy special food and meat that is like $8 per pound- but if I have to give my kid meat- it’s going to be the best we can find. I look at the food thing differently too- because you are going to spend money on food anyway. Gorilla Munch is $2.50 a box at Trader Joe’s. We make all his meats and bread and freeze them- so that probably saves some money there. Anyway, my point is- I think the money is worth it with the chelation, because we have seen definite improvements- more talking, understanding more, following directions, being more social, handling loud situations better, etc.

On 3/20/07 9:00 AM, " McDonough " <kevntimmcd@...> wrote:

Six weeks into td-DMPS we the same things you are seeing with your

son. After about 5 months, he slowed down with the mercury

excretion, so we stopped. Then he regressed a bit; the teachers

noticed a decline in his organizational skills and attention. We

did the porphyrin test, which indicated he was high in both lead and

mercury, so we started IV EDTA. He has done about 10 IVs with EDTA,

Vit. C and glutathione, and we saw big improvements after the

third. We are also doing weekly IV's with Vit C and Glut only, 3 or

4 days after the EDTA. I would say the improvements with IV

chelation are greater than with transdermal. However, we will be

chelating for mercury again, probably with IV DMPS, when the

excreted lead levels pull back.

My son was also dx'd PDD-NOS. I can't answer your question about

ALA as we are not using it; however I do know a mom whose child did

very well with oral chelation (DMSA along with ALA). Hopefully she

will see this thread and answer your question.

>

> Can I ask when you started noticing the changes in your son? I

started Oral

> DMPS on my 14 yr old son and we are now on round 7. Teachers are

saying

> that he's a completely different kid than last year, more

talkative, more

> cooperative, trying new things. (He's PDD/NOS.)

>

> I've noticed at home he's more social, seems happier, saying more

things.

> Just not sure how much change I should see by now or if it's too

early to

> tell. (Also, does progress seem to accelerate if you add ALA?)

>

> Thank you in advance for your input!!

>

> Carla

>

> In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:05:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> kevntimmcd@... writes:

>

> Many, many people have commented on his improvement including his

> teachers, his DAN doctor, friends and family members. He is happy

> now, and enjoying life. Chelation Therapy and the DAN protocol is

> without a doubt the best thing we've ever done for him in his 12-

1/2

> years.

>

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March 20, 2007

Poor baby, someone "insisted" you had to "chelate" him? You, my friend, were under no coercion by the state to "chelate" your child. I, on the other hand, was coerced by the state to vaccinate my grandson using a substance, routinely affixed with the skull and crossbone poison icon, that was NEVER proven to be either safe OR harmless. Bob Moffitt, you are my hero! Took the words right outa my mouth.

March 20, 2007

Yes and no about the ALA, depending on how yeasty he gets. Yeast can cover up a lot of progress.

Barb

Re: Re: Mercury and DNA

Can I ask when you started noticing the changes in your son? I started Oral DMPS on my 14 yr old son and we are now on round 7. Teachers are saying that he's a completely different kid than last year, more talkative, more cooperative, trying new things. (He's PDD/NOS.)

I've noticed at home he's more social, seems happier, saying more things. Just not sure how much change I should see by now or if it's too early to tell. (Also, does progress seem to accelerate if you add ALA?)

Thank you in advance for your input!!

Carla

In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:05:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kevntimmcdsbcglobal (DOT) net writes:

Many, many people have commented on his improvement including his teachers, his DAN doctor, friends and family members. He is happy now, and enjoying life. Chelation Therapy and the DAN protocol is without a doubt the best thing we've ever done for him in his 12-1/2 years.

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March 20, 2007

,

Just BEAUTIFUL!! Thank you for that

inspirational story! -

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of McDonough

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007

12:03 AM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Mercury and

DNA

Great to hear. My son too has made dramatic

improvement with

chelation and has not had any negative side effects whatsoever.

For over a year (prior to chelation) my son had dangerously low

calcium levels which we could not elevate despite supplementation.

Just a few weeks after starting chelation his levels returned to

normal.

Pre-chelation he was rarely speaking, never interacting with anyone

unless he wanted/needed something, barely getting by in school,

eating only a few foods, watching the same shows over and over,

hardly ever slept, and had constant gut pain. He hated sunny days

as his pupils were perpetually enlarged. He didn't read books, he

lined them up in alphabetical order over and over. Little or no eye

contact.

Post chelation (one year later): Almost a straight A student. Won

the geography bee at his junior high school. Happy, witty,

creative. Makes up his own jokes - and they're funny. Rides his

bike around the park on sunny days; today he went jogging. Reads

stories to his little sister. Greets the neighbors, who are stunned

by the change in him. Chimes in on conversations. Starts

conversations. Talks on the phone, asks to have friends over. Has

an eye for architecture and is familiar with many significant

buildings in Chicago.

Recently told me he wants to get married some

day and have kids. Follows directions better than the NT siblings

and has great eye contact.

Many, many people have commented on his improvement including his

teachers, his DAN doctor, friends and family members. He is happy

now, and enjoying life. Chelation Therapy and the DAN protocol is

without a doubt the best thing we've ever done for him in his 12-1/2

years.

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March 20, 2007

, That is interesting about your son not doing as well in

Feb/March. My son ALWAYS has a hard time in April when everything

is blooming and late August, ragweed season in CHicago. It is very

predictable, and he always bounces back. Obviously an

allergy/immune system problem and I assume it causes

neuroinflammation.

My son also suffers from the side effect of talking.

Last night he said, " Mom can you wake me up at 4:30 am tomorrow? " I

asked him why he had to get up so early, and he said he wanted extra

time to get ready for his school day. I told him I would wake him

at the usual 6:30 a.m. He insisted he needed more time to make his

bed, brush his teeth, etc. Then I got suspicious, checked the TV

listings and found that " Rocko's Modern Life " would be on at 5:00

a.m., and he finally admitted he wanted to get up early to watch it.

He was actually being sneaky and a little manipulative. A definite

sign that chelation is working!!

> >> >

> >> > Can I ask when you started noticing the changes in your son?

I

> > started Oral

> >> > DMPS on my 14 yr old son and we are now on round 7.

Teachers are

> > saying

> >> > that he's a completely different kid than last year, more

> > talkative, more

> >> > cooperative, trying new things. (He's PDD/NOS.)

> >> >

> >> > I've noticed at home he's more social, seems happier, saying

more

> > things.

> >> > Just not sure how much change I should see by now or if it's

too

> > early to

> >> > tell. (Also, does progress seem to accelerate if you add

ALA?)

> >> >

> >> > Thank you in advance for your input!!

> >> >

> >> > Carla

> >> >

> >> > In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:05:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight

Time,

> >> > kevntimmcd@ writes:

> >> >

> >> > Many, many people have commented on his improvement

including his

> >> > teachers, his DAN doctor, friends and family members. He is

happy

> >> > now, and enjoying life. Chelation Therapy and the DAN

protocol is

> >> > without a doubt the best thing we've ever done for him in

his 12-

> > 1/2

> >> > years.

> >> >

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> > to everyone.

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> >> >

> >

>

March 20, 2007