Coconut Oil

[Guest guest]

www.vrp.com has just started selling coconut oil online. I think it

is a little expensive but if you can't find it anywhere else that is

one option. Coconut Oil, 350 grams, $11.95

The site www.coconut-info.com also sells it in large quantities

online.

.

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Recent article from vrp.

Coconut Oil

The Remarkable NATURAL Sunstance that makes the human body, BETTER!

Coconut Oil is Stable, and Lasts Long

Coconut oil, which is a solid at room temperature - approximately

74° F - is a non-hydrogenated, naturally saturated oil that contains

absolutely no transfatty acids. Coconut oil that has been kept at

room temperature for a year has been tested for rancidity, and

showed no evidence of it.

Good for the Skin and Appearance

Coconut oil is also an excellent skin moisturizer that may be added

to bath water for a luxuriant soak. Ray Pete relates a story about

coconut oil and youthful appearance.

" Several years ago I met an old couple, who were only a few years

apart in age, but the wife looked many years younger than her

doddering old husband. She was from the Philippines, and she

remarked that she always had to cook two meals at the same time,

because her husband couldn't adapt to her traditional food. Three

times every day, she still prepared her food in coconut oil. Her

apparent youth increased my interest in the effects of coconut oil. "

Good for the Heart

When factored into a normal healthy diet, coconut oil will not cause

a rise in cholesterol levels. In fact, the inhabitants of Polynesia

and the Philippines, where coconut oil is a part of the daily diet,

have low serum cholesterol levels and very little coronary disease.

For many years, nutritionists thought that all saturated fats would

cause elevations in cholesterol levels. This is not the case. There

are two groups of saturated fats, medium and long chain. Long chain

saturates are stored in the body as fats and are associated

with " bad " cholesterol. Medium chain saturates found in coconut oil

do not cause heart disease nor clog arteries. They are an excellent

source of fuel and energy.

Excellent for Weight Loss

Coconut oil is lower in calories than most other fats and contains

Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT). MCTs help the body to metabolize

fat efficiently where it is converted into energy - not stored as

fat. Athletes and powerbuilders appreciate this fact; so do

individuals desiring to lose weight.

Coconut Oil Keeps Animals Thin

In the l940s, farmers attempted to use cheap coconut oil for

fattening their animals, but they found that it made them lean,

active and hungry. For a few years, an antithyroid drug was found to

make the livestock get fat while eating less food, but then it was

found to be a strong carcinogen, and it also probably produced

hypothyroidism in the people who ate the meat.

By the late l940s, it was found that the same antithyroid effect,

causing animals to get fat without eating much food, could be

achieved by using soy beans and corn as feed.

Later, an animal experiment fed diets that were low or high in total

fat, and in different groups the fat was provided by pure coconut

oil, or a pure unsaturated oil, or by various mixtures of the two

oils. At the end of their lives, the animals' obesity increased

directly in proportion to the ratio of unsaturated oil to coconut

oil in their diet, and was not related to the total amount of fat

they had consumed.

That is, animals which ate just a little pure unsaturated oil were

fat, and animals which ate a lot of coconut oil were lean.

It Also Helps People Stay Skinny, Too!

G. W. Crile and his wife found that the metabolic rate of people in

Yucatan, where coconut is a staple food, averaged 25% higher than

that of people in the United States. In a hot climate, the adaptive

tendency is to have a lower metabolic rate, so it is clear that some

factor is more than offsetting this expected effect of high

environmental temperatures. The people there are lean, and recently

it has been observed that the women there have none of the symptoms

we commonly associate with the menopause.

Coconut Oil Stimulates the Metabolism

Author Ray Pete talks about the effect coconut oil had on his

metabolism.

" I had put a tablespoonful of coconut oil on some rice I had for

supper, and half an hour later while I was reading, I noticed I was

breathing more deeply than normal. I saw that my skin was pink, and

I found that my pulse was faster than normal--about 98, I think.

After an hour or two, my pulse and breathing returned to

normal. " Every day for a couple of weeks I noticed the same response

while I was digesting a small amount of coconut oil, but gradually

it didn't happen any more, and I increased my daily consumption of

the oil to about an ounce. I kept eating the same foods as before,

except that I added about 200 or 250 calories per day as coconut

oil. " Apparently the metabolic surges that happened at first were an

indication that my body was compensating for an anti-thyroid

substance by producing more thyroid hormone; when the coconut oil

relieved the inhibition, I experienced a moment of slight

hyperthyroidism, but after a time the inhibitor became less

effective, and my body adjusted by producing slightly less thyroid

hormone. " But over the next few months, I saw that my weight was

slowly and consistently decreasing. It had been steady at 185 pounds

for 25 years, but over a period of six months it dropped to about

175 pounds. I found that eating more coconut oil lowered my weight

another few pounds, and eating less caused it to increase. The anti-

obesity effect of coconut oil is clear in all of the animal studies,

and in my friends who eat it regularly. "

Excellent for the Immune System

Because almost 50% of the fatty acid content in coconut oil is

lauric acid, a disease-fighting fatty acid, this healthy alternative

is ideal for individuals with suppressed immune systems. As an

important constituent in human milk, lauric acid also helps keep

infants from being infected by bacteria and many viruses.

When Albert Schweitzer operated his clinic in tropical Africa, he

said it was many years before he saw any cases of cancer, and he

believed that the appearance of cancer was caused by the change to

the European type of diet. In the l920s, German researchers showed

that mice on a fat-free diet were practically free of cancer.

Cooking with Coconut Oil is Tasty and Healthy

Coconut oil is the perfect oil for baking, sautéing and stir frying.

While it is not advised to use it for deep frying, the sweet

tropical flavor of coconut oil will add new depth and flair to many

of your favorite recipes. For baking especially, coconut oil adds a

better overall consistency to doughs and batters. One suggestion is

to replace butter, lard or shortening with three-quarters of the

amount of coconut oil. You may use it as a solid or in a melted

state.

" Today the food processors face the fact that they have taken out an

oil (coconut oil) not shown to raise cholesterol and put into their

products instead, hydrogenated soybean and other oils now proven to

raise " bad " cholesterol and lower " good " cholesterol. "

Carl Levin, Exec. Dir.,

US Council for Coconut Research/Information (USCCRI)

" The next time you go to the movies or a ball park and want to snack

on popcorn, ask the vendor what kind of oil the kernels are popped

in. If it isn't coconut, it's probably partially hydrogenated

vegetable oil, and that isn't good for you. "

Jane Heimlich, author

What Your Doctor Won't Tell You

[Guest guest]

How do you take this stuff or what do you cook it with? I don't really like

the taste, so how should I get it down. Any ideas?

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

> Reply-candidiasis

> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:28:32 -0700

> candidiasis

> Subject: Re: caprylic acid

>

>

> Pat,

>

> Virgin (unheated) coconut oil is about 6% caprylic acid, and about 50% -

> 53% lauric acid. Both kill yeast, among other things. The lauric acid

> works at far lower concentrations but it works slower.

>

> You might find it much less expensive to use virgin coconut oil than

> caprylic acid. You'd be using at least 4 tbsp daily. It won't raise

> cholesterol and it will help increase metabolic rate, which translates to

> weight loss in many people.

>

> There's research on that on my web site. I don't sell coconut oil.

>

> Duncan Crow

>

>

>> Can I ask if anyone has used caprylic acid supplements, and if so, did

>> they work for you?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan said:

> Virgin (unheated) coconut oil is about 6% caprylic acid, and about 50% -

> 53% lauric acid. Both kill yeast, among other things. The lauric acid

> works at far lower concentrations but it works slower.

>

> You might find it much less expensive to use virgin coconut oil than

> caprylic acid. You'd be using at least 4 tbsp daily. It won't raise

> cholesterol and it will help increase metabolic rate, which translates to

> weight loss in many people.

>

I would assume that the natural product is better, but I don't have an

convenient source of coconut oil in my area - not in local supermarkets. But

the caprylic acid is available 60 days' supply for 10 pounds UK price.

And as someone said, how would you use 4tbsp per day? that's a lot of oil.

Also Duncan I note you have a recommended source of HGH - I have always

steered clear of buying it online (despite much advertising and junk mail)

as I had no way of judging the quality and value for money. Could you tell

me what brand you recommend and how to buy it? (off list if you prefer).

Pat

[Guest guest]

I suggested it as an effective cheap alternative to caprylic acid rather

than as a health food, but most people find it tastes great so they eat

it by itself. If that's a problem, try it in the stir-fry... use it in

ethnic dishes.

Duncan Crow

>

> How do you take this stuff or what do you cook it with? I don't really

> like the taste, so how should I get it down. Any ideas?

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil is fairly heat-resistant. It doesn't oxidize much, and

that's why the high quality stuff can be kept for about 2 years at

room temperature without going rancid.

Nevertheless, heat can break anything and I feel that it will be

better not to heat it unless you must.

Duncan Crow

> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:41:04 -0700

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@s...>Re: Re: Hello...New here &

real

> lost

>

> Adding Inulin to your diet and adding coconut oil may be two of the

best

> food-related things to add.

>

>

> Hi Duncan,

>

> I'm wondering: is it best to take the unrefined coconut oil at

room

> temperature as opposed to using it to cook with, if I want to get

its full

> benefits? I'm assuming that heat might destroy much of what makes

the

> coconut oil work for us.

>

> Sherry

[Guest guest]

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:49:04 -0000

From: " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...>

Coconut oil is fairly heat-resistant. It doesn't oxidize much, and

that's why the high quality stuff can be kept for about 2 years at

room temperature without going rancid.

Nevertheless, heat can break anything and I feel that it will be

better not to heat it unless you must.

Thank you, Duncan. I'll take it mostly at room temperature then, and

also cook with it.

Sherry

[Guest guest]

what is inulin? If someone knows please respond, Duncan?

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie;

Coconut oil does not get past the blood brain barrier.

Lyme disease responds to colloidal silver. In fact on the silver list

there are several people who found that was the only thing that they

tried that worked fairly well.

Lyme disease (and systemic candida) is killed by ozone therapy. Here's an

introduction to the therapy:

http://www.ozonio.com.br/medical.htm

Duncan Crow (as an ozone therapist)

> Hi all,

> Does anyone know if coconut oil gets past the brain barrier? Also does

> anyone know if it kills lyme disease? Thanks, Debbie S

[Guest guest]

Hey Debbie

Extra virgin coconut oil is claimed to be the healthiest, most versatile

unprocessed dietary oil in the world.

Can be eaten as is or cooked with and has a nice aroma too...

From: Angelgirl1016@...

Reply-candidiasis

candidiasis

Subject: coconut oil

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:32:42 -0400 (EDT)

Hi all,

Does anyone know if coconut oil gets past the brain barrier? Also does

anyone know if it kills lyme disease?

Thanks,

Debbie S

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[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

>just an interesting article plus a link to where to

>find a good quality coconut oil...

>

>

>

>http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/13/coconut_oil.htm

>

>

>

That's where I got mine.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:38:50 -0000

" Delano Eaton " <mushimushi@...> wrote:

So between the one from the Philippines and the one from So.

>Pacific, which do you like? I am talking taste.

>

>Thanks for your help,

>

>~Del

>

They both taste good, but I think the centrifuged oil is the best.

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[Guest guest]

Del,

I've only had the India, but it says right on the WFN site that the

Philippine is the one of the two cheaper types that tastes as good as

the India, not the So Pac. Whether it can be eaten straight depends

on the person too, not just the brand.

The minimally processed (the two more expensive ones you mentioned)

type is easiest to digest as well as tasting best.

n

> I need some help here choosing coconut oil. I have been using

coconut

> oil for a few years now. I started out using Wilderness Family

> Naturals. That was when they only had one...now they have 3

choices!

> I switched to coconut oil-online about 6 months ago. I love the

> taste! Much better than what I remember of the WFN taste but the

> price is out of sight! I went back to WFN to check them out after

> reading so many good comments here. But I don't know which one to

> order! Can anyone of you that eat it from the jar on a regular

basis

> tell me which one you like?? The India oil with shipping is the

same

> price as the coconutoil-online but the other 2 are almost $20

> cheaper. So between the one from the Philippines and the one from

So.

> Pacific, which do you like? I am talking taste.

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

> ~Del

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil is anti-fungal. I also think it tastes very yummy!!

-Patty

>From: " Penny " <penelopea@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

><candidiasis >

>Subject: Coconut Oil

>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:18:14 -0500

>

>I bought Coconut Oil at the health food store yesterday after reading about

>it here. But silly me, I can't remember why it was recommended. Is it

>anti-fungal? Or just good for you? What? Thanks - Penny

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Try to get a good quality oil, organic or virgin oil.

Refined oil still has most of the antifungal properties but is not as good for

your overall health.

Take 3-4 tablespoons per day, maybe less for a child, go by body weight?

Start with a little on a spoon perhaps.

You can take it with warm water, coconut oil melts at 76°F.

You can use it for frying, it is really the only oil it is ok to cook with.

I use it for stirfrys and cooking scrambled eggs, it soaks up in the eggs.

Making a yogurt of Kefir smoothie with a few tablespoons of coconut oil in it is

a good way to have it.

Bruce

From: Penny

Can someone give me some suggestions for using Coconut oil? Thanks - Penny

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bruce. Interesting that you say it's really the only oil to cook

with. I thought olive oil was good to cook with too. - Penny

Re: Coconut Oil

Try to get a good quality oil, organic or virgin oil.

Refined oil still has most of the antifungal properties but is not as good

for your overall health.

Take 3-4 tablespoons per day, maybe less for a child, go by body weight?

Start with a little on a spoon perhaps.

You can take it with warm water, coconut oil melts at 76°F.

You can use it for frying, it is really the only oil it is ok to cook with.

I use it for stirfrys and cooking scrambled eggs, it soaks up in the eggs.

Making a yogurt of Kefir smoothie with a few tablespoons of coconut oil in

it is a good way to have it.

Bruce

From: Penny

Can someone give me some suggestions for using Coconut oil? Thanks -

Penny

[Guest guest]

Another thought that comes to mind. I am already taking 6 teaspoons of

olive oil as per recommendations of the anti-candida regimen I'm following.

Add 3-4 TABLEspoons of coconut oil to that and surely I'm gonna end up

looking like Porky Pig!!! - P

Re: Coconut Oil

Try to get a good quality oil, organic or virgin oil.

Refined oil still has most of the antifungal properties but is not as good

for your overall health.

Take 3-4 tablespoons per day, maybe less for a child, go by body weight?

Start with a little on a spoon perhaps.

You can take it with warm water, coconut oil melts at 76°F.

You can use it for frying, it is really the only oil it is ok to cook with.

I use it for stirfrys and cooking scrambled eggs, it soaks up in the eggs.

Making a yogurt of Kefir smoothie with a few tablespoons of coconut oil in

it is a good way to have it.

Bruce

From: Penny

Can someone give me some suggestions for using Coconut oil? Thanks -

Penny

[Guest guest]

> Thanks Bruce. Interesting that you say it's really the only oil to

cook

> with. I thought olive oil was good to cook with too. - Penny

>

>

I was told to use olive oil too.

Ellen

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil isn't fattening.

Its not stored by the body but burned for energy.

Re: Coconut Oil

Try to get a good quality oil, organic or virgin oil.

Refined oil still has most of the antifungal properties but is not as good

for your overall health.

Take 3-4 tablespoons per day, maybe less for a child, go by body weight?

Start with a little on a spoon perhaps.

You can take it with warm water, coconut oil melts at 76°F.

You can use it for frying, it is really the only oil it is ok to cook with.

I use it for stirfrys and cooking scrambled eggs, it soaks up in the eggs.

Making a yogurt of Kefir smoothie with a few tablespoons of coconut oil in

it is a good way to have it.

Bruce

[Guest guest]

Oive oil is mostly monounsaturated oils with some saturated oils.

I've heard to use olive or sesame oils for cooking as well but I think a

saturated oil like coconut is probably the safest. The danger is from transfatty

acids and oxidation of the oils when cooking.

Coconut oil is very stable. It has a shelf life of about 3 years without being

refrigerated.

I don't know the carbon chain length of the monounsaturated fatty acids in olive

oil.

Short and medium chain fatty acids seem to be the most beneficial as nutritional

oils.

They are metabolised differently than the longer chains and are used by a

shorted metabolic path to make energy.

In health, Bruce

P.S. A bunch of info here:

http://www.theexoticblends.com/research/research.html

The attributes of a good frying fat are the opposite of what you would expect.

Normal frying temperatures are in the range of 160-190 °C (320-374 °F). A good

frying fat must have a minimum content of mono- and diglycerides which tend to

decompose and produce smoke. It must also have minimum concentrations of

unsaturated fatty acids which can react with oxygen and the water in raw foods

to produce a wide range of undesirable compounds that can alter the flavor of

the fried foods and can even produce toxic compounds such as malondialdehyde.

Repeated frying with the same fat aggravates the situation.

The most stable fats for frying should have high concentrations of the thermally

stable saturated fatty acids, and further, these should be of medium chain

length to minimize the sensation of greasiness in the mouth. Chemical

hydrogenation of vegetable oils can improve the saturated fatty acid profile of

the frying fat, but can aggravate the sensation of greasiness. (And besides,

chemical hydrogenation can lead to the formation of the antinutritional trans

isomers of fatty acids )

There are only three natural oils that meet the requirements for an ideal frying

oil:

coconut oil, palm oil and palm kernel oil.

----- Original Message -----

From: Penny

Thanks Bruce. Interesting that you say it's really the only oil to cook

with. I thought olive oil was good to cook with too. - Penny

[Guest guest]

The other safe oils for cooking besides tropical oils are fats of animal origin,

butter, tallow, etc, any natural saturated fat.

You could ask at the health food for them to order coconut oil, or find a source

online, there are many.

Search coconut oil on google and you will find a lot of dealers.

Prices tend to be rather high though...imo

I have just recieved 6 two pound containers of organic coconut oil from this

online health food store:

www.feelgoodnatural.com

The best price I could find for virgin oil was at:

http://www.qualityfirst.on.ca/

This company will sell retail and also supplies coconut oil to some of the

companies you will find if you search google. Both these companies are Canadian

but I believe will ship internationaly.

Bruce

Re: Coconut Oil

I am just wondering where to buy coconut oil? I looked

at the grocery store and at the health food store. The

only oils I could really find were Canola, Sunflower,

Veggie, Olive, and so on. But I didn't see the coconut

oil. I've heard that frying with tropical oil is the

best. What other oils are safe to fry with so that the

oil won't be ruined. Thanks!

*8-)

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Another thought that comes to mind. I am already taking 6 teaspoons of

> olive oil as per recommendations of the anti-candida regimen I'm

> following. Add 3-4 TABLEspoons of coconut oil to that and surely I'm gonna

> end up looking like Porky Pig!!! - P

Penny,

Coconut oil is a better germ and candida killer, and it also produces ten

TIMES less free radicals than olive oil. Depending on what purpose you're

taking the olive oil for you may be able to replace it with coconut oil.

Duncan Crow

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce and everyone;

>

> Oive oil is mostly monounsaturated oils with some saturated oils.

> I've heard to use olive or sesame oils for cooking as well but I think a

> saturated oil like coconut is probably the safest. The danger is from

> transfatty acids and oxidation of the oils when cooking. Coconut oil is

> very stable. It has a shelf life of about 3 years without being

> refrigerated.

>

> I don't know the carbon chain length of the monounsaturated fatty acids in

> olive oil. Short and medium chain fatty acids seem to be the most

> beneficial as nutritional oils. They are metabolised differently than the

> longer chains and are used by a shorted metabolic path to make energy.

>

> In health, Bruce

>

The numbers to back up your comments are on the coconut oil page on my

website. It contains a worksheet that breaks down several common food

oils to reveal which fatty acids and how much free radical production

there can be in each oil. It's all there in black and white. Note when

you're looking at Lipid (oil) peroxidation indices, that lower is better,

and coconut oil is ten TIMES lower than olive oil.

Duncan Crow

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>

>

> I am just wondering where to buy coconut oil? I looked

> at the grocery store and at the health food store. The

> only oils I could really find were Canola, Sunflower,

> Veggie, Olive, and so on. But I didn't see the coconut

> oil. I've heard that frying with tropical oil is the

> best. What other oils are safe to fry with so that the

> oil won't be ruined. Thanks!

>

> *8-)

Right now we're out of stock of virgin coconut oil, but there's still the

extra-virgin, produced with no heat at all, unlike the virgin. This is

more of a gourmet decision than a practical matter.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

>

> Duncan - I am taking 2 teaspoons of olive oil, three times a day to

> " prevent the transformation of Candida into its mycelial form " . (from

> " Candida Albicans - The non-drug approach to the treatment of Candida

> infection " by Leon Chaitow) If you think Coconut oil could do the same

> thing, I'd gladly switch since it's obviously healthier and not so

> fattening. - Penny

Hi Penny,

I haven't seen any research to back that up. Not saying there isn't any,

but I haven't come across it in my travels.

On the other hand I just searched Medline for it and came across this

gem... " The daily administration of 8.6 mg of origanum oil in 100 microl

of olive oil/kg body weight for 30 days resulted in 80% survivability,

with no renal burden of C. albicans as opposed to the group of mice fed

olive oil alone, who died within 10 days. "

So it appears that it might be just a tale.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

If you like canola oil, you will love coconut oil , its good. : -)

Canola oil..hmm

Rape seed is the original form of canola before the genetic manipulation was

done to make canola.

Rape seed oil is 40 -50 percent erucic acid, which is why it was genetically

changed to get rid of that fatty acid. Canola oil still contains this compound

in lesser amounts.

I avoid using anything with canola oil in it, but then I avoid all commercially

manufactured fats and oils. : -)

Its not easy to avoid ingesting canola oil, it eliminates a lot of procesed food

from the diet, but that's a good thing too.

From things I have read on the internet I am taking a second look at seed oils

in general.

If polyunsaturated oils ( like in plant seed oils ) are exposed to oxygen they

oxidize and become hardened.

They are used in paints because they dry hard, (eg. linseed oil).

Oxidation makes then become hard and I'm thinking about how that might not be

good in the body.

There is a lot of free oxygen in the body from respiration so these oils likely

would suffer from oxidation in the body.

Some people say these types of oils are toxic to the body.

They make good arguments for that point.

They say polyunsaturated oils are a major cause of cancer and heart disease and

of the other diseases of " modern " society.

This is all completely new to me. I had always believed these oils were good for

you.

Now I am wondering if its good to eat these types of oils at all, possibly it is

not.

http://www.aspartame.ca/indexoho.htm

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/fats_and_cancer.html

Bruce

From: M.

Awsome! Thanks a lot Bruce...

That helps as I too am in Canada.

What are your feelings about Canola oil? I have done a

lot of looking around about it and got freaked out

when I read that it is very dangerous to our health.