Coconut Oil

May 3, 2005

Do you add ice at the beginning to the smoothie? You will get waxy lumps if

the rest of your ingredients are very, very cold or frozen. If I want my

smoothie cold I do not use ice cubes when I blend, I use those plastic ice

shapes that you freeze in your freezer. I drop them in my drink AFTER I have

blended my smoothie.

Val

Re: Re: coconut oil

> <<Melt the oil down and add to smoothies. >>

>

> I've tried this and what I get are hard waxy little lumps.....I have not

> found a way to incorporate this into a cold drink successfully.

>

May 3, 2005

rodriguezlina wrote:

> Does coconut oil have to be virgen oil for it to work properly? Will

> just plain organic coconut oil (non- virgen) work just as well? Will

> the fact that the oil is not virgen oil cause weight gain?

The issue is whether it has been artificially hydrogenated. That makes

it unhealthy, another saturated fat.

Chuck

May 3, 2005

No, I don't use ice in them at all, I just use cold milk, yogurt, etc.

Nothing is frozen, just normal refrigerator cold.

Re: Re: coconut oil

>

>> <<Melt the oil down and add to smoothies. >>

>>

>> I've tried this and what I get are hard waxy little lumps.....I have not

>> found a way to incorporate this into a cold drink successfully.

>>

May 3, 2005

Do most people here use coconut oil?

Bev

Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

rodriguezlina wrote:

> Does coconut oil have to be virgen oil for it to work properly? Will

> just plain organic coconut oil (non- virgen) work just as well? Will

> the fact that the oil is not virgen oil cause weight gain?

The issue is whether it has been artificially hydrogenated. That makes

it unhealthy, another saturated fat.

Chuck

May 3, 2005

bev wrote:

> Do most people here use coconut oil?

Doubtful. We did a survey a couple of months ago, and no one spoke up

then in favor of it, although a few of us had tried it. The new folks

that recommend it (welcome aboard, BTW) seem to be using a larger daily

dose. I never went beyond two tablespoons per day.

Chuck

May 3, 2005

Thanks, Did it help, the coconut oil?

Bev

Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

bev wrote:

> Do most people here use coconut oil?

Doubtful. We did a survey a couple of months ago, and no one spoke up

then in favor of it, although a few of us had tried it. The new folks

that recommend it (welcome aboard, BTW) seem to be using a larger daily

dose. I never went beyond two tablespoons per day.

Chuck

May 4, 2005

bev wrote:

> Thanks, Did it help, the coconut oil?

Not that I could tell, and I tried it off and on (looking for a change)

for over six months. I was also avoiding carbs for that same period,

which should have made the impact even greater.

Chuck

May 4, 2005

*** My responses are marked with ***

> > Do most people here use coconut oil?

*** I have used coconut oil for over a year now, way before I learned

I had Hypothyroidism. ***

> Thanks, Did it help, the coconut oil?

*** When I use it regularly, yes it does help both with energy and

slimming/toning my body... probably because I have the energy to hop

on the treadmill. ***

> Does coconut oil have to be virgen oil for it to work properly?

Will

> just plain organic coconut oil (non- virgen) work just as well?

Will

> the fact that the oil is not virgen oil cause weight gain?

>The issue is whether it has been artificially hydrogenated. That

>makes it unhealthy, another saturated fat.

*** Actually, the hydrogenation process makes it a Trans Fat, coconut

oil is already at least 92% saturated fats (saturated fats are

good!). No, it does not have to be virgin. It is the medium and

short chain fatty acids (lauric acid, caprylic acid, and capric acid)

that you benefit from in the coconut oil, and they are not harmed

during processing. That said, I mostly use the " virgin " kind, lol.

>Are you doing others things also to lose weight or are you just

relying on the coconut oil? If you're doing other things, what are

they?

*** Always avoid all hydrogenated oils and high fructose corn syrup,

and any foods containing them... this helped me a lot with losing the

weight after my second child because it excludes a ton of processed

foods. That doesn't mean drinking diet soda instead either ***

May 4, 2005

One of the endo's I went to said that there are things on the market that will

say it's good for hypo people to lose weight or whatever but it does more harm

than good. I don't know myself. I did try different things from S. web

site and have to agree with the endo this time.

Bev

Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

bev wrote:

> Thanks, Did it help, the coconut oil?

Not that I could tell, and I tried it off and on (looking for a change)

for over six months. I was also avoiding carbs for that same period,

which should have made the impact even greater.

Chuck

May 5, 2005

bev wrote:

> One of the endo's I went to said that there are things on the market that will

say it's good for hypo people to lose weight or whatever but it does more harm

than good. I don't know myself. I did try different things from S. web

site and have to agree with the endo this time.

>

The only legitimate study of this " supplement " used hydrogenated coconut

oil. It showed all the harm of other saturated fats in a very pronounced

way, really dangerous stuff. The claims of benefits and safety of

nonhydrogenated, virgin oil have never been rigorously tested. The only

evidence is anecdotal. That means to me, that if I try it, it better

have obvious, dramatic beneficial results. It didn't.

So, the answer is that nobody really knows, in a scientific sense, and

you use it at your own risk. Considering the cost of the stuff, I can

afford to wait for better evidence before I use it again. As your endo

said, there is a good chance that you are spending good money to do

yourself harm. There are plenty of slender people around with clogged

arteries.

Chuck

May 5, 2005

> So, the answer is that nobody really knows, in a scientific sense, and

> you use it at your own risk.

This is true for so many things... and also an important fact to remember is

that not everybody reacts to something the same way... which is why medicine

is described as an art. What works for 99 people might not worth for the

100th. Ideally, everyone educates themselves as best they can, and weighs

the opinions of others, and then chooses a course to follow... it might

work, and it might not, there aren't any guarantees. What worked

wonderfully for a friend might do zip for you and vice versa.

Something to consider, though, when you are researching stuff on the

Internet, is that a great number of things are presented as fact, but there

aren't any references given to dcoument the claims the writers make. I'm

not specifically talking about coconut oil here, I'm talking about

information on the Internet in general. I've seen, for example, an email

being circulated lately about the dire dangers of MSG and how it was a plot

to make people addicted to food and obese. Yet none of the links work to

articles they cite to support the claims, there are no scientific research

studies listed, etc. What they say may well be true, or have elements of

truth in it, but since I can't find the original sources and valid

scientific articles, it makes me quite skeptical of the claims. I see this

repeated over and over, and often many different holistic/alternative web

sites will post the same article, but no sources.

So keep your eyes open and your wits about you, research as best you can on

the Internet, but also use your library resources, books and articles in

print publications, don't rely just on Internet hearsay, because that is

what a great deal of it truly is.

May 5, 2005

That's what one of my docs. told me, so I look for those when I read anything

now, not just on the internet. That's what lead me to stop reading S. web

site. I'm glad some one else knows this.

take care

Bev

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