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FOR ALL OF YOU ANIMAL & NATURE LOVERS;THESE ARE AWESOME PICS

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Hi Becky,

I am the moderator of this group and indeed I DO keep an eye on what goes out in

this group. We do allow for some off-topic posts, as we are not Nazis. But what

post are you referring to, as you didn't hit REPLY to the message to which you

are referring.

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"I've been poz for 1yr. I'm currently not on anti viral meds. I tried Atripla for 6 months but stopped because of the side effects (weird dreams, depression, and gaining weight). I'm currently looking for a natural antiviral treatment for my HIV related symptoms. The only issue I've been experiencing with HIV is swollen lymph glands in my neck. My last viral load was in the 10,000 and CD4 390. My age is 26 and weight is 180. If anyone has a solution to my problem please let me know."Donnel,Many people find that "alternative" preparations help them to deal with complications of medication side effects and complications of HIV disease. In the malnourished, supplements make a difference in disease progression.There are no natural remedies for HIV itself, though. If I were in your place, I would start a different type of HIV medications. JB

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There is a natural alternative being evaluated in a case series, produced by two

HIV+ Chinese medicine practitioners, one who is using it, the other on ARV, both

great guys and very smart.

It is called ViraPhyte -

http://nybcsecure.org/product_info.php?cPath=54 & products_id=379

It is for people who want to try something if they are taking a break or are not

yet ready for ARV. It is NOT going to replace the need for ARV. It does seem to

delay or slow progression from the data I've seen.

It should not be done if your CD4 count is below 200. If between 200-350, only

if you are stable but better I think to be on ARV. That's a personal decision.

ARV by contrast is generally covered whereas ViraPhyte is out-of-pocket.

It would be interesting to get it into a clinical study to better evaluate it.

It does not have any clinical data to support its use, just the cases we've

reviewed.

In general, and given the data that are out there, if you are doing well on your

meds and managing your side effects, ARV therapy is the better bet.

M.

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The only data thar we have is a case series, about a dozen individuals have tried it. No signs of liver toxicity. It is for people who want to do something while they're not on ARV. I agree with pretty much everything everyone said here. You have to keep trying until you find the regimen that works for you.One thing I can say for sure is the Virahute is definitely not as strong as ARV. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless Re: Re:(no subject)There is a natural alternative being evaluated in a case series, produced by two HIV+ Chinese medicine practitioners, one who is using it, the other on ARV, both great guys and very smart.It is called ViraPhyte -http://nybcsecure.org/product_info.php?cPath=54&products_id=379 It is for people who want to try something if they are taking a break or are not yet ready for ARV. It is NOT going to replace the need for ARV. It does seem to delay or slow progression from the data I've seen.It should not be done if your CD4 count is below 200. If between 200-350, only if you are stable but better I think to be on ARV. That's a personal decision.ARV by contrast is generally covered whereas ViraPhyte is out-of-pocket.It would be interesting to get it into a clinical study to better evaluate it. It does not have any clinical data to support its use, just the cases we've reviewed.In general, and given the data that are out there, if you are doing well on your meds and managing your side effects, ARV therapy is the better bet. M. ------------------------------------Welcome to our group!If you received this email from someone who forwarded it to you and would like to join this group, send a blank email to -subscribe and you will get an email with instructions to follow.You can chose to receive single emails or a daily digest (collection of emails). You can post pictures, images, attach files and search by keyword old postings in the group.For those of you who are members already and want to switch from single emails to digest or vice versa, visit www., click on , then on "edit my membership" and go down to your selection. The list administrator does not process any requests, so this is a do-it-yourself easy process ! :)Thanks for joining. You will learn and share a lot in this group!NOTE: I moderate, approve or disapprove emails before they are posted. Please follow the guidelines shown in the homepage. I will not allow rudeness, sexually explicit material, attacks, and anyone who does not follow the rules. If you are not OK with this, please do not join the group. Forward this email to anyone who may benefit from this information! Thanks!In Health, Vergel (PoWeRTX@...)List Founder and Moderator

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I wanted to thank everyone who has e-mailed me and showed us support during this very difficult time. We are hoping to get her in her first cast in mid August. She is 20 months old and and has a 37%curvaturere in her mid back. When we met with the specialist we really didn't get a lot of information about the effectiveness of this treatment. After speaking to a few of you I know we are making the right choice. Thanks.

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www.autumnsharvestfarm.com--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Leggett <jennifer.leggett@...> wrote:

From: Leggett <jennifer.leggett@...>Subject: Re: (no subject)infantile scoliosis treatment Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:24 PM

Welcome to the group! My son also gets treated in rochester by Dr. S. I know the beginning is so tough but I can assure you that it does get easier. My son lived a completely normal life minus the water and sand. He loved his casts. How long it takes depends on your baby, their age and the curve. If you would like to chat on the phone I can answer any other questions you have and try to walk you through the process and share our experience. Please email me directly if you would like to chat or have more questions.Jenn Mommy to Cole & Max

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Mehta casting will preserve the chest cavity and lung capacity.  Older Risser style casting can damage it.  If the curve is progressive (RVAD above 20) are consecutive x-rays showing progression and the child is 9-12 months + then casting should be started.  If you start later or at a higher degree, then casting will have to last longer and any impacts of casting would in fact be greater. 

JennMommy to Cole & Max

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DITTO Jenn!

> Mehta casting will preserve the chest cavity and lung capacity. Older

> Risser style casting can damage it. If the curve is progressive (RVAD

> above

> 20) are consecutive x-rays showing progression and the child is 9-12

> months

> + then casting should be started. If you start later or at a higher

> degree,

> then casting will have to last longer and any impacts of casting would in

> fact be greater.

>

> Jenn

> Mommy to Cole & Max

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There is a HUGE difference.  As mentioned make sure they actually don't do Mehta casting.  Here is a copy and paste from Heidi a while back: 

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Risser casting and Mehta Method or EDF (elongation, derotation, flexion) casting.

Scoliosis is a 3-dimensional problem that should be corrected on all 3 planes. The EDF casting method has the ability to elongate the spine through traction, derotate the spine/pelvis, and to improve lordosis and over all body shape/alignment.

EDF differs from Risser casting. EDF casts are over the shoulder, with a large mushroom opening on the front to allow for proper chest expansion. On the back, there is a small cutout on the concavity of the curve, not going past the midline. It was found that the spine became more aligned with this cutout than without and that it helped correct rotation.

 

Early treatment w/ EDF is generally over a period of 9-12 months depending on age and child’s specific situation. When the child's Cobb angle is under 10 deg, they are removed from their series of EDF plaster casts and placed into a removable brace.

Early treatment EDF does not alternate with bracing as Risser plaster casting can. It is a solid block of casts to decrease the childs curvature(s), gently, slowly & permanently.

The biggest difference is the aim of treatment- which is cure, opposed to containment. Dr's Cotrel & Morel developed the EDF technique years ago in France and found that using one of these techniques in isolation has its own drawbacks, yet using all three simultaneously potentializes the advantages of each.(Elongation, Derotation, Flexion). 

Additionally Risser casting is not shown to get corruption and Mehta is.  Risser casting is also more likely to cause chest and rib deformities. 

Jenn 

Mommy to Cole (cured with meta casting) and Max (watching slight curve)

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Jenn meant to say make sure they indeed do mehta casting!!Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Re: (no subject)

There is a HUGE difference.  As mentioned make sure they actually don't do Mehta casting.  Here is a copy and paste from Heidi a while back: 

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Jenn Rush - $21

Risser casting and Mehta Method or EDF (elongation, derotation, flexion) casting.

Scoliosis is a 3-dimensional problem that should be corrected on all 3 planes. The EDF casting method has the ability to elongate the spine through traction, derotate the spine/pelvis, and to improve lordosis and over all body shape/alignment.

EDF differs from Risser casting. EDF casts are over the shoulder, with a large mushroom opening on the front to allow for proper chest expansion. On the back, there is a small cutout on the concavity of the curve, not going past the midline. It was found that the spine became more aligned with this cutout than without and that it helped correct rotation.

 

Early treatment w/ EDF is generally over a period of 9-12 months depending on age and child’s specific situation. When the child's Cobb angle is under 10 deg, they are removed from their series of EDF plaster casts and placed into a removable brace.

Early treatment EDF does not alternate with bracing as Risser plaster casting can. It is a solid block of casts to decrease the childs curvature(s), gently, slowly & permanently.

The biggest difference is the aim of treatment- which is cure, opposed to containment. Dr's Cotrel & Morel developed the EDF technique years ago in France and found that using one of these techniques in isolation has its own drawbacks, yet using all three simultaneously potentializes the advantages of each.(Elongation, Derotation, Flexion). 

Additionally Risser casting is not shown to get corruption and Mehta is.  Risser casting is also more likely to cause chest and rib deformities. 

Jenn 

Mommy to Cole (cured with meta casting) and Max (watching slight curve)

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Thank you so much for the input... I think that made my mind up for me!

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> Jenn meant to say make sure they indeed do mehta casting!!

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

>

> Re: (no subject)

>

> There is a HUGE difference. As mentioned make sure they actually don't do

> Mehta casting. Here is a copy and paste from Heidi a while back:

>

> Store Credit

>

>

> Jenn Rush - $21

>

>

>

> Risser casting and Mehta Method or EDF (elongation, derotation, flexion)

> casting.

>

> Scoliosis is a 3-dimensional problem that should be corrected on all 3

> planes. The EDF casting method has the ability to elongate the spine

> through traction, derotate the spine/pelvis, and to improve lordosis and

> over all body shape/alignment.

>

> EDF differs from Risser casting. EDF casts are over the shoulder, with a

> large mushroom opening on the front to allow for proper chest expansion. On

> the back, there is a small cutout on the concavity of the curve, not going

> past the midline. It was found that the spine became more aligned with this

> cutout than without and that it helped correct rotation.

>

> Early treatment w/ EDF is generally over a period of 9-12 months depending

> on age and child’s specific situation. When the child's Cobb angle is under

> 10 deg, they are removed from their series of EDF plaster casts and placed

> into a removable brace.

>

> Early treatment EDF does not alternate with bracing as Risser plaster

> casting can. It is a solid block of casts to decrease the childs

> curvature(s), gently, slowly & permanently.

>

> The biggest difference is the aim of treatment- which is cure, opposed to

> containment. Dr's Cotrel & Morel developed the EDF technique years ago in

> France and found that using one of these techniques in

>

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Excellent. Thanks for reposting.

HRH

> There is a HUGE difference. As mentioned make sure they actually don't do

> Mehta casting. Here is a copy and paste from Heidi a while back:

>

> Store Credit

>

>

> Jenn Rush - $21

>

>

>

> Risser casting and Mehta Method or EDF (elongation, derotation, flexion)

> casting.

>

> Scoliosis is a 3-dimensional problem that should be corrected on all 3

> planes. The EDF casting method has the ability to elongate the spine

> through traction, derotate the spine/pelvis, and to improve lordosis and

> over all body shape/alignment.

>

> EDF differs from Risser casting. EDF casts are over the shoulder, with a

> large mushroom opening on the front to allow for proper chest expansion.

> On

> the back, there is a small cutout on the concavity of the curve, not going

> past the midline. It was found that the spine became more aligned with

> this

> cutout than without and that it helped correct rotation.

>

> Early treatment w/ EDF is generally over a period of 9-12 months depending

> on age and child’s specific situation. When the child's Cobb angle is

> under

> 10 deg, they are removed from their series of EDF plaster casts and placed

> into a removable brace.

>

> Early treatment EDF does not alternate with bracing as Risser plaster

> casting can. It is a solid block of casts to decrease the childs

> curvature(s), gently, slowly & permanently.

>

> The biggest difference is the aim of treatment- which is cure, opposed to

> containment. Dr's Cotrel & Morel developed the EDF technique years ago in

> France and found that using one of these techniques in isolation has its

> own drawbacks, yet using all three simultaneously potentializes the

> advantages of each.(Elongation, Derotation, Flexion).

>

>

> Additionally Risser casting is not shown to get corruption and Mehta is.

> Risser casting is also more likely to cause chest and rib deformities.

>

>

> Jenn

>

> Mommy to Cole (cured with meta casting) and Max (watching slight curve)

>

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