Imus This Morning

[Guest guest]

Perhaps everyone already knows this, but you can listen to the audio of

Dierdre Imus and a great Doctor from this morning's program at this

great blog - kudos to the guy who maintains this thing!!

www.imusblog.com

It is hard to put into words what Don and Dierdre are singlehandedly

doing for our kids. It's inconceivable to me how unwilling the rest of

media is to take on a topic impacting so many of our kids. I know I am

stating the obvious and preaching to the choir.

At any rate, take a listen - Don and Dierdre, you are making such a

great difference!!

JB

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

You need to read between the lines.

Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

Why?

Imus this morning

He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's radio show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person, face to face with the Rutgers women's basketball team. said "Sometimes smart people say stupid things"It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's sorry he said it... He is making amends. Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has raised millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising money for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for autism. He is a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre have been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to what he has said to expose what happened to our children- how many times has he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to count- we need him.

[Guest guest]

Yes, what an opportune time for the powers that be to attempt to

underhandedly get rid of a voice that speaks the truth about the

autism epidemic and the truth about the dangers of vaccine

ingredients, pediatric vaccine schedule,etc.

Casper

>

> You need to read between the lines.

> Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> Why?

>

>

> Imus this morning

>

>

> He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's radio

> show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person, face to

> face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

>

> said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

>

> It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's sorry he

> said it... He is making amends.

>

> Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has raised

> millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising money

> for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for autism. He is

> a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

>

> I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre have

> been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to what he

> has said to expose what happened to our children- how many times has

> he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to count- we

> need him.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The underlying motivation for selectively objecting will probably

never be known.

Just last week I caught Imus for a sec or two. He was explaining his

disdain for " Satan " A.K.A. Hillary Clinton. Apparently, Don agrees

with the fact that Hillary is significant as a root-initiator of the

autism epidemic.

As Henry and others point out, they were still folding up the chairs

from the first Clinton inaugural when Hillary and the quackwatch doc

marched before every state legislature in the country attempting to

shove " Hillarycare " down their throats.

Included in " Hillarycare " was, of course, a plan to force

vaccinations on our children. In order to force vaccination

compliance on the states the Clinton White House actually resorted to

extortion tactics as governments across the country were told the

feds intended to withhold federal education dollars if states did not

meet vaccination quotas.

I have personally read newspaper archive stories concerning the ugly

force this plank of " Hillarycare " had. In New York state, dozens and

dozens of parents were thrown in jail for refusing to have their

teenage children vaccinated as the village legally pillaged the

rights of parents to act in best interests of their children.

I am completely sure that parents here can attest that vaccine

bullies of all sorts of shapes and sizes pulled every trick in the

book to " herd " as many parents as possible into vaccinating their

infants and toddlers with record levels of thimerosal containing

vaccines, but not many will fairly attribute this level of " vaccine

abuse " to Hillary Clinton.

In a completely disgusting double-standard, while her mercury-

containing vaccine policies continued to be carried out with brutal

results on our children within the United States despite an

association between thimerosal (mercury) content in aggregate and

autism on the rise, Hillary was literally screaming her head off in

the media in order to stop military bombing runs at the Isla de

Vieques Bombing Range in Puerto Rico.

Among Hillary's concern was excessive levels of mercury were found in

the hair and fingernails of 45% of Vieques residents tested in 2000.

Strangely and sadly the Military Toxics Project web site which

contained lots of specific information has just recently disappeared

from the internet.

Equally sad is the fact that within a short time of Don Imus publicly

shedding light on Hillary Clinton and her role in causing the

American autism epidemic one of her well-known henchmen opens up an

indirect attack on him.

Again, it is important to stress the underlying motivation for Big Al

selectively objecting will probably never be known, but it's

completely logical to suggest something other than the run of the

mill Imus spice is in play here.

That's my view.

> >

> > You need to read between the lines.

> > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > Why?

> >

> >

> > Imus this morning

> >

> >

> > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's

radio

> > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person,

face to

> > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> >

> > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> >

> > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's

sorry he

> > said it... He is making amends.

> >

> > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has

raised

> > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising

money

> > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for autism.

He is

> > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> >

> > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre

have

> > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to

what he

> > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many

times has

> > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to

count- we

> > need him.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The Clintons and the Bushes are made of the same fabric. She is one

dangerous individual, and I don't understand how so many people cannot

understand what special interests she serves.

>in order to force vaccination compliance on the states the Clinton

>White House actually resorted to extortion tactics as governments

>across the country were told the feds intended to withhold federal

>education dollars if states did not meet vaccination quotas.

Bob, do you know what state agency receives the funding for the

mandating of vaccines for kids? Is it the state departments of

Education, or is it the state departments of health? I had read on one

site that they receive at least $100 for a fully vaxed kid, and

receive much less for a partially vaxed kid, and then $0 for an

unvaxed kid. I have a difficult time finding that info.

Casper

> > >

> > > You need to read between the lines.

> > > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > > Why?

> > >

> > >

> > > Imus this morning

> > >

> > >

> > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's

> radio

> > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person,

> face to

> > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> > >

> > > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> > >

> > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's

> sorry he

> > > said it... He is making amends.

> > >

> > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has

> raised

> > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising

> money

> > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for autism.

> He is

> > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> > >

> > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre

> have

> > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to

> what he

> > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many

> times has

> > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to

> count- we

> > > need him.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No I do not know the state agencies, but you may find out by googling

the 1993 Comprehensive Childhood Immunization Act.

Here is a cut and paste of some information which might get you

going...

http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/2000/feb00/psrfeb00.html

The 1993 Comprehensive Childhood Immunization Act gave the Department

of Health and Human Services $400 million to induce states to create

databases of all children's vaccinations. By giving " rewards " to the

state of $50, $75 or $100 per fully vaccinated child, states are

financially motivated to make vaccines compulsory and to produce the

proof by storing the information on a state database.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) is trying to link these state

databases into a federal database containing every child's medical

records. This will become a gatekeeper to deny admission to daycare,

kindergarten, school or college, or even access to medical care for

any child who has not had all government-mandated shots.

It will be easy to add all medical records to this database, which

would then become the key to the government's ability to dictate the

giving and rationing of health care. This would accomplish Bill

Clinton's original 1994 goal when he displayed his Health Security

Card to a national television audience.

Another plan to collect private information on a government database

involves sending " home visitors " into the homes of all first-time

parents in the project called Healthy Families America. Information

is entered on a nationwide computerized tracking system called the

Program Information Management System that can eventually be combined

with preschool and public school tracking systems.

----end of quote----

It would be perhaps important to learn that while CDC and other

interested parties have been more than happy to acknowledge they have

the VSD dangling and we can't look at it, that very quietly they have

been monitoring other resources which do directly associate

thimerosal/vaccines as causal in ASD at the tap of a few keys.

I think we can all safely suspect that CDC does have better data than

VSD which they are looking at. I can think of at least one doctor in

our area that we suspect is providing our children's case files/data

to CDC for inspection. We are seeing some orchestration there.

> Bob, do you know what state agency receives the funding for the

> mandating of vaccines for kids? Is it the state departments of

> Education, or is it the state departments of health? I had read on

one

> site that they receive at least $100 for a fully vaxed kid, and

> receive much less for a partially vaxed kid, and then $0 for an

> unvaxed kid. I have a difficult time finding that info.

> Casper

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > You need to read between the lines.

> > > > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > > > Why?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Imus this morning

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on

Sharpton's

> > radio

> > > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in

person,

> > face to

> > > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> > > >

> > > > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> > > >

> > > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's

> > sorry he

> > > > said it... He is making amends.

> > > >

> > > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He

has

> > raised

> > > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by

raising

> > money

> > > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for

autism.

> > He is

> > > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> > > >

> > > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife

Deirdre

> > have

> > > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close

to

> > what he

> > > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many

> > times has

> > > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to

> > count- we

> > > > need him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Come on guys....does anyone really believe this has ANYTHING to do with autism

and

higher ups trying to get rid of him because of his outspokeness about this

issue?

He screwed up...plain and simple.

And I realize he has gone on before and called people mouth breathers, nit wits

and so on,

which most of the time is funny as hell. But this cannot be compared to calling

teenage

girls who accomplished something good nappy headed hos.

And I also agree that the media does pick up on every flumber a person makes,

but again,

Kerry's bad joke telling and misconstruing the word clean referring to

Barack Obama

is not the same thing. There is no misunderstanding here about what he said or

what he

meant by it.

Again, I love Imus for everything he has done for autism. I thank him from the

bottom of

my heart and I watched him as often as I could in the mornings, whereas before I

was

never a fan. But, loving him for one thing doesn't mean excusing him for

another. Yes, he

has apologized and has done so without mincing words. I respect that, but I can

also

respect that some in the African American community are just not going to

forgive him.

And why should they, really? After all, 's staffer made a comment

about

autistics used to be considered criminally insane. That infuriated many in our

community

and while we may have demanded a public apology from Senator , which we

never

got, I can honestly say that I really wouldn't have forgiven the staffer anyway.

It was cruel

and filled with ignorance.

There are no powers that be going after Imus to shut him up about autism. He

stepped in

crap and now has to clean off his shoes. All we can do is hope that he is able

to do that.

But, I am also in agreement that my first thought when I heard this was, " Damn!

We just

lost another credible person on our side. "

I hope I am wrong, but stuff like this tends to stick. But, I also don't think

it is right for us

to just wave it away as if it can be compared to his usual insults. I can call

someone an

idot, a mouth breather, an ass and so on...but taking it to that level is

something

completely different and the insult was not on a level that could be breezed

over as a

harmless joke. It was mean.

And I realize that AS and JJ often step over lines themselves. But, in this

case, they are

right to be angry.

Stepping down from my soapbox now...

Col

> >

> > You need to read between the lines.

> > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > Why?

> >

> >

> > Imus this morning

> >

> >

> > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's radio

> > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person, face to

> > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> >

> > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> >

> > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's sorry he

> > said it... He is making amends.

> >

> > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has raised

> > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising money

> > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for autism. He is

> > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> >

> > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre have

> > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to what he

> > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many times has

> > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to count- we

> > need him.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm rather tired of this topic, and would rather move on - Imus

screwed up, and sincerely apologized. This occurrence will most likely

give him pause to reflect about what he does say about ALL people he

ridicules.

However, I think it would be very, very naive to believe that there

hasn't been, nor will there be in the future - powers that be that

want to shut him up. Greed and corruption knows no boundaries. One is

not going to read about the nefarious dealings of the powers that be

on the front page of the newspaper.

Casper

>

> Come on guys....does anyone really believe this has ANYTHING to do

with autism and

> higher ups trying to get rid of him because of his outspokeness

about this issue?

>

> He screwed up...plain and simple.

Snip

>

> There are no powers that be going after Imus to shut him up about

autism.

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, but only in the balance and in the speed with which the FCC complaint was filed (notably by Sharpton). That just seemed suspicious to me given his relationship with the Clintons, and their mutual interests (from the apparent threat from Barack Obama). One would expect them to act in concert.

Imus has been giving the Clintons a hard time for years. And now that has become even more critical. I'm not apologizing for Imus (you can't). I'm just wondering how much of this (from Sharpton) is real, how much is orchestrated. I don't believe it is zero. We have some brilliant maestros playing here.

Imus is an equal opportunity offender. His success is grounded in the fact that he is politically incorrect.

The statements made were/are repugnant. They were off the cuff, and they were hurtful to the young women. Nothing is excusable with respect to them. Hopefully, they will forgive. It will be understandable if they do not.

But Imus has been contrite, apologetic, even groveling. Hopefully, he can put this to rest.

Imus got suckered into the Sid Rosenberg/Bernie frat boy reparte that has come to be a significant portion of his show.

But in this society, on the issue of free speech and its relationship to race, sex, ethnicity, it all depends on who has the license to say what is said...

and Imus did not have license to say what he said.

Imus this morning> > > > > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's radio > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person, face to > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.> > > > said "Sometimes smart people say stupid things"> > > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's sorry he > > said it... He is making amends. > > > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has raised > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising money > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for autism. He is > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.> > > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre have > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to what he > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many times has > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to count- we > > need him.> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Well to a simple-minded person qith little or no media savvy it might

seem neurotic to suggest such, but it certainly has all the

indicators of lots and lots of powerful political intervention behind

getting Big Al's message to get rid of Imus across the country,

especially given that this was a Christian holiday weekend.

To the media observer this is sort of indirect salvo is very

Clintonesque in nature. It had a very bold Carville sort of

sting to it, with a just a dash of Hillary.

It's completely logical to suggest Don's comments about Hillary

causing the autism epidemic are in play if not causal in Big Al's

attack on Imus.

Where is Carville, BTW? Don should ask him on the show right away.

> > >

> > > You need to read between the lines.

> > > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > > Why?

> > >

> > >

> > > Imus this morning

> > >

> > >

> > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's

radio

> > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person,

face to

> > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> > >

> > > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> > >

> > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's

sorry he

> > > said it... He is making amends.

> > >

> > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has

raised

> > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising

money

> > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for

autism. He is

> > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> > >

> > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre

have

> > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to

what he

> > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many

times has

> > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to

count- we

> > > need him.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting comment by Clarence Page on the PBS news this evening.

Clarence, talking about why Imus is racist and should pay and how an

apology is insufficient, made a remark about Imus's `autism ranch'.

Freudian slip, I wonder?

[Guest guest]

Anybody still not convinced?

>

> Interesting comment by Clarence Page on the PBS news this evening.

> Clarence, talking about why Imus is racist and should pay and how an

> apology is insufficient, made a remark about Imus's `autism ranch'.

> Freudian slip, I wonder?

>

[Guest guest]

Google Al Sharpton/Hillary Clinton the bedfellows go back to 1999 prior

to her first Senatorial run. No doubt that is behind it. Hillary is

a ....

In EOHarm , " kerbob1 " <kerbob1@...> wrote:

>

> Anybody still not convinced?

>

>

>

> >

> > Interesting comment by Clarence Page on the PBS news this evening.

> > Clarence, talking about why Imus is racist and should pay and how an

> > apology is insufficient, made a remark about Imus's `autism ranch'.

> > Freudian slip, I wonder?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lenny, I am glad you recognize that Sharpton and are opportunistic,

racist, shakedown artists. I would quietly donate $1.00 to Sharpton and a can of

Budweiser to , for his son Jr.. These two are big racists. Free speech,

even when

wrong, insensitive and racist should be protected at all costs. We have all

listened to

Black radio stations with spew racial hatred against white people on a daily

basis in

America. Imus is not a racist. His advertisers will look at his track record

and not judge

his character by one phrase done during live unscripted satire . Black comedians

use the N

word all the time..i.e. Dave Chapelle who insults all races along stereotypical

lines and is

wildly popular with a very large ethnically and socioeconomic diverse fan base.

Imus has

too many affluent friends on all sides of the political spectrum, not counting

the autism

community.

The timing of all this with everything else going on is a little coincidental

> >

> >

> > If Imus is going on Sharpton's show, and he is abjectedly

> > apologizing, which he is, then I think his apologies will be

> > accepted and this will blow over. After all, part of his whole

> > schtick is to say outrageous, funny stuff. Unfortuntely, sometimes

> > his comments are just mean and stupid. I don't see anything

> > nefarious at work here. Imus's audience is predominately middle-aged

> > white guys like me who will not get too upset about his comments.

> > And wherever Imus goes his huge, difficult to reach, prosperous

> > audience will follow. The broadcaster's know that and that gives him

> > the extraordinary amount of room he has to say what he wants.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It appears that Big Al was hand in hand with Hillary screaming about

the PR bombing range.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton

In 2001, Sharpton served a three-month prison term for an act of

civil disobedience consisting in illegally trespassing on U.S.

property located on a bombing range in Vieques, Puerto Rico. Sharpton

was imprisoned for protesting the United States Navy's ongoing

bombing and target practices on the island.

There's little doubt that Sharpton knows full-well that Hillary

played a major role in the autism epidemic.

[

> > >

> > > Interesting comment by Clarence Page on the PBS news this

evening.

> > > Clarence, talking about why Imus is racist and should pay and

how an

> > > apology is insufficient, made a remark about Imus's `autism

ranch'.

> > > Freudian slip, I wonder?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

And, doncha think that the powers that be in Autism Speaks (may or

may not be Suzanne and Bob) are all sleeping in the same circular

bed? There are only so many powers that be.

Casper

> > >

> > >

> > > If Imus is going on Sharpton's show, and he is abjectedly

> > > apologizing, which he is, then I think his apologies will be

> > > accepted and this will blow over. After all, part of his whole

> > > schtick is to say outrageous, funny stuff. Unfortuntely,

sometimes

> > > his comments are just mean and stupid. I don't see anything

> > > nefarious at work here. Imus's audience is predominately middle-

aged

> > > white guys like me who will not get too upset about his

comments.

> > > And wherever Imus goes his huge, difficult to reach, prosperous

> > > audience will follow. The broadcaster's know that and that

gives him

> > > the extraordinary amount of room he has to say what he wants.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with all you said, but actually CNN did do a long segment on the sexist part that was repeated a number of times today Nanstiel <erik@...> wrote: The phenomenon of preoccupying the news with this minor little scandal is like that of a "gaper's delay" that occurs around accidents on the freeway. It jams everything up for a time, until it is dealt with... and the crowds gather to see if something really juicy or shocking happens.It's a Jerry Springer kind of thing...> >> >> >> > > >> > If Imus is going on Sharpton's show, and he is abjectedly> >> > apologizing, which he is, then I think his apologies will be> >> > accepted and this will blow over. After all, part of his whole> >> > schtick is to say outrageous, funny stuff. Unfortuntely, sometimes> >> > his comments are just mean and stupid. I don't see anything> >> > nefarious at work here. Imus's audience is predominately middle-aged> >> > white guys like me who will not get too upset about his comments.> >> > And wherever Imus goes his huge, difficult to reach, prosperous> >> > audience will follow. The broadcaster's know that and that gives him> >> > the extraordinary amount of room

he has to say what he wants.> >> > > > > > > >>

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[Guest guest]

And some freeway traffic jams never quite get cleared up - like

's death. Didn't that occur the same day the CDC's 1:150

numbers came out? And such parallels to Marilyn Monroe.

Casper

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > If Imus is going on Sharpton's show, and he is abjectedly

> > >> > apologizing, which he is, then I think his apologies will be

> > >> > accepted and this will blow over. After all, part of his whole

> > >> > schtick is to say outrageous, funny stuff. Unfortuntely,

sometimes

> > >> > his comments are just mean and stupid. I don't see anything

> > >> > nefarious at work here. Imus's audience is predominately

middle-aged

> > >> > white guys like me who will not get too upset about his comments.

> > >> > And wherever Imus goes his huge, difficult to reach, prosperous

> > >> > audience will follow. The broadcaster's know that and that

gives him

> > >> > the extraordinary amount of room he has to say what he wants.

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You just elaborated the forumla for most local news: " if it bleeds, it

leads " . National news loves spectacles, doesn't matter how hollow or

symbolic the subject.

Examples of three hot, but irrelevant to everyday life news stories:

1. (the un-Princess )

2. Princes (the un- )

3. The Columbine High School shootings

(Columbine was a total anomalie, school campuses are the safest place

for kids and teen-age violent crime has been on a decade long decline,

but the media somehow forgot to mention this in their fear mongering

for ratings).

And they can't figure out why they are losing audience to the internet.

Lenny

>

> The phenomenon of preoccupying the news with this minor little

scandal is like that of a

> " gaper's delay " that occurs around accidents on the freeway. It jams

everything up for a

> time, until it is dealt with... and the crowds gather to see if

something really juicy or

> shocking happens.

>

> It's a Jerry Springer kind of thing...

>

>

[Guest guest]

A simple-minded person with no media savvy? First of all, why don't

you grow up for a minute and leave your personal insults where they

belong. I did not personally attack you or anyone else, so don't do it

to me.

Secondly, since when does " Big Al " NOT jump on an opportunity to call

someone a racist if this kind of situation arises? I think most people

would have been far more surprised if he DIDN'T come out publicly

against Imus over this. Particularly in the black community.

And that includes people who despise him. Even if you hate his guts,

you can be sure that his face will be splattered all over the television

screen on every talk show and news program that he can get to listen

to him if it has anything to do with what he or others in the black

community are pissed about.

To argue that some people who are against Imus's association with

fighting the pharmaceutical companies are also going to leap at the

opportunity to bring him down because of this is one thing. I would

not argue that as I am sure there are plenty of people behind the scenes

who are jumping on the Imus bandwagon right now to take him down,

and I am just as sure that those critics span interests way beyond autism

and Thimerosal, as well.

Imus has been an outspoken person for many years and has made many

friends along the way as well as numerous enemies, both political and

otherwise. In that way, he is not unlike any other person who finds

themselves in hot water for something they did or said. Anyone's enemies

are waiting in the wings for a moment like this so they can help tear that

person apart and have them removed. No doubt.

But, to imply or charge that Al Sharpton's reasons for coming out and

attacking Imus over this is about autism is just dead wrong. If you said

that you wouldn't be surprised if Hillary wasn't whispering in his ear and

encouraging him because of her own agenda, then that would be something

that could be logical. But to say that he is doing this for her is just

ridiculous.

If Mel Gibson or the guy from Seinfeld had been outspoken about autism and

Thimerosal, you would have accused the media or targeting them for this. As

it was, they were not outspoken for autism and they caught the same kind of

heat for their remarks.

Al Sharpton is yelling and screaming because this is what he does. And let's

not forget the political pressure he has from his own community, the same

community that picketed Imus for his comments today.

I am sure that Hillary and every single person at Merck, Eli Lilly and others

are toasting with champagne today. But, the timing of this was completely

in the hands of Imus himself. What is happening is happening because of

Imus allowing himself to unintentionally screw up over the airways. And yes,

the timing sucks, but no one else orchestrated it. No one else could have,

but they are going to take advantage of it.

But, that is quite different than the powers that be concerning autism are

the ones causing this backlash. They may be loving it, but it was caused

by his remarks.

And, btw, , I totally agree with you that the comment was also

sexist. But Al Sharpton has never really concerned himself with women,

even within his own community unless it was also racist. That is just his

agenda and he and are the ones yelling about this. Calling a

woman a ho, to them, is more racist than sexist.

And again, all any of us can hope for is that Imus is able to pull himself out

of this. MSNBC does not want to take heat for this so they have suspended

him for now. If it doesn't blow over soon, he may just lose them completely.

But again, this is also due to many reasons. MSNBC has been hurting for a

long time now in their ratings compared to other big 2, CNN and FOX, and

they are not going to defend Imus and fold under public fire and political

scrutiny. So, unless Imus can clean this up fast, we are going to lose him.

Col

> > > >

> > > > You need to read between the lines.

> > > > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > > > Why?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Imus this morning

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's

> radio

> > > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person,

> face to

> > > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> > > >

> > > > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> > > >

> > > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's

> sorry he

> > > > said it... He is making amends.

> > > >

> > > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has

> raised

> > > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising

> money

> > > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for

> autism. He is

> > > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> > > >

> > > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre

> have

> > > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to

> what he

> > > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many

> times has

> > > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to

> count- we

> > > > need him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> A simple-minded person with no media savvy? First of all, why don't

> you grow up for a minute and leave your personal insults where they

> belong. I did not personally attack you or anyone else, so don't do it

> to me.

Well, at least he didn't call you a nappy head ho.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

Col,

Kerbob tends to be an equal opportunity offender. Try not to take his

messages personally. Personally, I don't believe they are meant to be

malicious, but have more to do with his style and years of observing

the failures of the " system " with protecting our kids.

He's been in this struggle a long time, and offers much valuable

information and insight.

Casper

> > > > >

> > > > > You need to read between the lines.

> > > > > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > > > > Why?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Imus this morning

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on Sharpton's

> > radio

> > > > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in person,

> > face to

> > > > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> > > > >

> > > > > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> > > > >

> > > > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said it...he's

> > sorry he

> > > > > said it... He is making amends.

> > > > >

> > > > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He has

> > raised

> > > > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by raising

> > money

> > > > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for

> > autism. He is

> > > > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife Deirdre

> > have

> > > > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close to

> > what he

> > > > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how many

> > times has

> > > > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times to

> > count- we

> > > > > need him.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We've seen this brand of knock-down politics too many times in the

past to ignore that fact that Hillary Clinton is pulling the strings.

By pledging allegiance to Hillary Clinton, a woman most likely

individually responsible for creating your own child's autism, you

personally show a high level of something, and it ain't good.

As the father of an autistic child I saw the same level of board-

minding prior to the passage of the Combating Autistics Act.

Tell me more about your kid and what sort of analyst you are.

> > > > >

> > > > > You need to read between the lines.

> > > > > Imus screwed up, but it appears they are gunning for him.

> > > > > Why?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Imus this morning

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > He is apologizing profusely. He is going to be on

Sharpton's

> > radio

> > > > > show at 1 pm today. He has requested to apologize in

person,

> > face to

> > > > > face with the Rutgers women's basketball team.

> > > > >

> > > > > said " Sometimes smart people say stupid things "

> > > > >

> > > > > It was a stupid insensitive thing to say. He said

it...he's

> > sorry he

> > > > > said it... He is making amends.

> > > > >

> > > > > Look at the man- he does a lot of good in this world. He

has

> > raised

> > > > > millions for kids with cancer, helping the troops by

raising

> > money

> > > > > for the fallen heroes fund. Everything he has done for

> > autism. He is

> > > > > a good man. Sometimes good people do bad things.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will be glad when this blows over. Don and his wife

Deirdre

> > have

> > > > > been our most outspoken supporters. Nobody has come close

to

> > what he

> > > > > has said to expose what happened to our children- how

many

> > times has

> > > > > he mentioned thimerosal-vaccines -autism, too many times

to

> > count- we

> > > > > need him.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, at least he didn't call you a nappy head ho.

>

> Lenny

>

ROFLMAO....ya got me there...