Re: Results of Renin activity and Aldosterone

[Guest guest]

I think its a great idea as the work you do is amazing and valuable to so many.Its also helping you to educate GP's, Endo's to suspect PA and how to test for it and make them realise just how under diagnosed PA is!The problem with paying is the people who aren't diagnosed with PA may not be able to afford it! I read about PA (before coming on here) but doubted it due to my BP fluctuations. Now, I know its a big possibility I could have this and how my diet could of been masking what I have. Thanks to Dr.Grim I wouldn't have joined as I can't afford it due to not working as been so ill.People that have been living with PA for 5-10 years have probably spent thousands trying to get better and may be sceptical about paying without having the chance to find out if it is a possibility first.That would be a shame as the more people come forward the more can be done to improve GPs and specialists knowledge about PA and how common it may be. Also, to monitor the after effects of PA, which many here have talked about, living with one adrenal gland/ adrenal fatigue. The more people who take part the better I would have thought!I will of course be sending you a cheque and a bottle of champagne when I'm better, if I have PA :)Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...>Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:19:22 -0500hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and Aldosterone Thanks will see how we can do this. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Farah Rahbar <farahbargmail> wrote: Dr. Grim:This is such a good idea. You can have a website that requires membership. To be a member you pay $60 for 6 months, or $100 for one year.FarahOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote: Well let's see. I do say an hour a day. @ $100 an hr $36500. So if each paid $100 a year or ~30 cents a day that woDr.uld be fabtastic. I may actually spend 2+ hr a day. So half is for the dun and education I get. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, marysue hopper <marysuehopper (DOT) co.nz> wrote: There's no way you would ever recoup your hourly rate for the work you do here. Thanks for your clinical management of this forum. SueFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>hyperaldosteronism Sent: Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:22:06 AMSubject: Re: Results of Renin activity andAldosterone Contgrats you have PA as I think I suggested early on. Spiro and DASH recommended.ACEs make renin and aldo go up because the block the conversion of AI to AII and/or lower BP. AII lower renin. As renin goes up it can still overcome ACE and more AII kicks adrenal aldo production.Recall that normally I charge $500/yr for this sort of detailed consultation. Guess you can send me what you think this has been worth or not.CE Grim MDOn Mar 6, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Vicki wrote:Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board! I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs done. I will give you the results of both labs. Feb. 2, 2010aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95March 3, 2010Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on March 3 it was102.96 So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?Any insight would be appreciated! Vicki

[Guest guest]

Maybe it is time to see if there is grant money for this research.

you can use the search in your email program to find things.

The search on the group system is very limited. It is easy to read things on the

group site. easy to skim tne emails as any short replys can be seen without

opening the the reply.

> >>>

> >>>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> >>>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> >>>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> >>>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> >>>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> >>>>

> >>>> Feb. 2, 2010

> >>>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> >>>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> >>>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> >>>>

> >>>> March 3, 2010

> >>>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> >>>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> >>>>

> >>>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> >>>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> >>>> March 3 it was 102.96

> >>>>

> >>>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> >>>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> >>>>

> >>>> Vicki

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe it is time to see if there is grant money for this research.

you can use the search in your email program to find things.

The search on the group system is very limited. It is easy to read things on the

group site. easy to skim tne emails as any short replys can be seen without

opening the the reply.

> >>>

> >>>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> >>>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> >>>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> >>>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> >>>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> >>>>

> >>>> Feb. 2, 2010

> >>>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> >>>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> >>>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> >>>>

> >>>> March 3, 2010

> >>>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> >>>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> >>>>

> >>>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> >>>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> >>>> March 3 it was 102.96

> >>>>

> >>>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> >>>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> >>>>

> >>>> Vicki

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In the UK, charitable groups can apply to our National Lottery for funding,

although it's difficult at the moment as there's not enough money for the

Olympics and it's widely thought that the Lottery funds are being diverted.

Is there a US equivcalent that funds good causes?

> > >>>

> > >>>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> > >>>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> > >>>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> > >>>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> > >>>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Feb. 2, 2010

> > >>>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> > >>>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> > >>>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > >>>>

> > >>>> March 3, 2010

> > >>>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > >>>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> > >>>>

> > >>>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> > >>>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> > >>>> March 3 it was 102.96

> > >>>>

> > >>>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> > >>>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Vicki

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In the UK, charitable groups can apply to our National Lottery for funding,

although it's difficult at the moment as there's not enough money for the

Olympics and it's widely thought that the Lottery funds are being diverted.

Is there a US equivcalent that funds good causes?

> > >>>

> > >>>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> > >>>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> > >>>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> > >>>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> > >>>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Feb. 2, 2010

> > >>>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> > >>>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> > >>>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > >>>>

> > >>>> March 3, 2010

> > >>>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > >>>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> > >>>>

> > >>>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> > >>>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> > >>>> March 3 it was 102.96

> > >>>>

> > >>>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> > >>>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Vicki

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Check is better and cheaper than shipping Champ. You can toast with your team there. CE Grim MDTiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 4:11 PM, moseleymand@... wrote:

I think its a great idea as the work you do is amazing and valuable to so many.Its also helping you to educate GP's, Endo's to suspect PA and how to test for it and make them realise just how under diagnosed PA is!The problem with paying is the people who aren't diagnosed with PA may not be able to afford it! I read about PA (before coming on here) but doubted it due to my BP fluctuations. Now, I know its a big possibility I could have this and how my diet could of been masking what I have. Thanks to Dr.Grim I wouldn't have joined as I can't afford it due to not working as been so ill.People that have been living with PA for 5-10 years have probably spent thousands trying to get better and may be sceptical about paying without having the chance to find out if it is a possibility first.That would be a shame as the more people come forward the more can be done to improve GPs and specialists knowledge about PA and how common it may be. Also, to monitor the after effects of PA, which many here have talked about, living with one adrenal gland/ adrenal fatigue. The more people who take part the better I would have thought!I will of course be sending you a cheque and a bottle of champagne when I'm better, if I have PA :)Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:19:22 -0500hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and Aldosterone

Thanks will see how we can do this. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Farah Rahbar <farahbargmail> wrote:

Dr. Grim:This is such a good idea. You can have a website that requires membership. To be a member you pay $60 for 6 months, or $100 for one year.FarahOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote:

Well let's see. I do say an hour a day. @ $100 an hr $36500. So if each paid $100 a year or ~30 cents a day that woDr.uld be fabtastic. I may actually spend 2+ hr a day. So half is for the dun and education I get.

Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, marysue hopper <marysuehopper (DOT) co.nz> wrote:

There's no way you would ever recoup your hourly rate for the work you do here. Thanks for your clinical management of this forum.

Sue

From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:22:06 AMSubject: Re: Results of Renin activity and

Aldosterone

Contgrats you have PA as I think I suggested early on. Spiro and DASH recommended.ACEs make renin and aldo go up because the block the conversion of AI to AII and/or lower BP. AII lower renin. As renin goes up it can still overcome ACE and more AII kicks adrenal aldo production.

Recall that normally I charge $500/yr for this sort of detailed consultation. Guess you can send me what you think this has been worth or not.CE Grim MD

On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Vicki wrote:

Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board! I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs done. I will give you the results of both labs.

Feb. 2, 2010aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95March 3, 2010Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on March 3 it was

102.96 So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?Any insight would be appreciated! Vicki

[Guest guest]

Check is better and cheaper than shipping Champ. You can toast with your team there. CE Grim MDTiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 4:11 PM, moseleymand@... wrote:

I think its a great idea as the work you do is amazing and valuable to so many.Its also helping you to educate GP's, Endo's to suspect PA and how to test for it and make them realise just how under diagnosed PA is!The problem with paying is the people who aren't diagnosed with PA may not be able to afford it! I read about PA (before coming on here) but doubted it due to my BP fluctuations. Now, I know its a big possibility I could have this and how my diet could of been masking what I have. Thanks to Dr.Grim I wouldn't have joined as I can't afford it due to not working as been so ill.People that have been living with PA for 5-10 years have probably spent thousands trying to get better and may be sceptical about paying without having the chance to find out if it is a possibility first.That would be a shame as the more people come forward the more can be done to improve GPs and specialists knowledge about PA and how common it may be. Also, to monitor the after effects of PA, which many here have talked about, living with one adrenal gland/ adrenal fatigue. The more people who take part the better I would have thought!I will of course be sending you a cheque and a bottle of champagne when I'm better, if I have PA :)Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:19:22 -0500hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and Aldosterone

Thanks will see how we can do this. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Farah Rahbar <farahbargmail> wrote:

Dr. Grim:This is such a good idea. You can have a website that requires membership. To be a member you pay $60 for 6 months, or $100 for one year.FarahOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote:

Well let's see. I do say an hour a day. @ $100 an hr $36500. So if each paid $100 a year or ~30 cents a day that woDr.uld be fabtastic. I may actually spend 2+ hr a day. So half is for the dun and education I get.

Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, marysue hopper <marysuehopper (DOT) co.nz> wrote:

There's no way you would ever recoup your hourly rate for the work you do here. Thanks for your clinical management of this forum.

Sue

From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:22:06 AMSubject: Re: Results of Renin activity and

Aldosterone

Contgrats you have PA as I think I suggested early on. Spiro and DASH recommended.ACEs make renin and aldo go up because the block the conversion of AI to AII and/or lower BP. AII lower renin. As renin goes up it can still overcome ACE and more AII kicks adrenal aldo production.

Recall that normally I charge $500/yr for this sort of detailed consultation. Guess you can send me what you think this has been worth or not.CE Grim MD

On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Vicki wrote:

Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board! I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs done. I will give you the results of both labs.

Feb. 2, 2010aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95March 3, 2010Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on March 3 it was

102.96 So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?Any insight would be appreciated! Vicki

[Guest guest]

If I can charge I can hire a DB AND STAT PERSON to get UT right. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 4:11 PM, moseleymand@... wrote:

I think its a great idea as the work you do is amazing and valuable to so many.Its also helping you to educate GP's, Endo's to suspect PA and how to test for it and make them realise just how under diagnosed PA is!The problem with paying is the people who aren't diagnosed with PA may not be able to afford it! I read about PA (before coming on here) but doubted it due to my BP fluctuations. Now, I know its a big possibility I could have this and how my diet could of been masking what I have. Thanks to Dr.Grim I wouldn't have joined as I can't afford it due to not working as been so ill.People that have been living with PA for 5-10 years have probably spent thousands trying to get better and may be sceptical about paying without having the chance to find out if it is a possibility first.That would be a shame as the more people come forward the more can be done to improve GPs and specialists knowledge about PA and how common it may be. Also, to monitor the after effects of PA, which many here have talked about, living with one adrenal gland/ adrenal fatigue. The more people who take part the better I would have thought!I will of course be sending you a cheque and a bottle of champagne when I'm better, if I have PA :)Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:19:22 -0500hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and Aldosterone

Thanks will see how we can do this. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Farah Rahbar <farahbargmail> wrote:

Dr. Grim:This is such a good idea. You can have a website that requires membership. To be a member you pay $60 for 6 months, or $100 for one year.FarahOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote:

Well let's see. I do say an hour a day. @ $100 an hr $36500. So if each paid $100 a year or ~30 cents a day that woDr.uld be fabtastic. I may actually spend 2+ hr a day. So half is for the dun and education I get.

Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, marysue hopper <marysuehopper (DOT) co.nz> wrote:

There's no way you would ever recoup your hourly rate for the work you do here. Thanks for your clinical management of this forum.

Sue

From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:22:06 AMSubject: Re: Results of Renin activity and

Aldosterone

Contgrats you have PA as I think I suggested early on. Spiro and DASH recommended.ACEs make renin and aldo go up because the block the conversion of AI to AII and/or lower BP. AII lower renin. As renin goes up it can still overcome ACE and more AII kicks adrenal aldo production.

Recall that normally I charge $500/yr for this sort of detailed consultation. Guess you can send me what you think this has been worth or not.CE Grim MD

On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Vicki wrote:

Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board! I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs done. I will give you the results of both labs.

Feb. 2, 2010aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95March 3, 2010Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on March 3 it was

102.96 So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?Any insight would be appreciated! Vicki

[Guest guest]

If I can charge I can hire a DB AND STAT PERSON to get UT right. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 4:11 PM, moseleymand@... wrote:

I think its a great idea as the work you do is amazing and valuable to so many.Its also helping you to educate GP's, Endo's to suspect PA and how to test for it and make them realise just how under diagnosed PA is!The problem with paying is the people who aren't diagnosed with PA may not be able to afford it! I read about PA (before coming on here) but doubted it due to my BP fluctuations. Now, I know its a big possibility I could have this and how my diet could of been masking what I have. Thanks to Dr.Grim I wouldn't have joined as I can't afford it due to not working as been so ill.People that have been living with PA for 5-10 years have probably spent thousands trying to get better and may be sceptical about paying without having the chance to find out if it is a possibility first.That would be a shame as the more people come forward the more can be done to improve GPs and specialists knowledge about PA and how common it may be. Also, to monitor the after effects of PA, which many here have talked about, living with one adrenal gland/ adrenal fatigue. The more people who take part the better I would have thought!I will of course be sending you a cheque and a bottle of champagne when I'm better, if I have PA :)Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:19:22 -0500hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and Aldosterone

Thanks will see how we can do this. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Mar 7, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Farah Rahbar <farahbargmail> wrote:

Dr. Grim:This is such a good idea. You can have a website that requires membership. To be a member you pay $60 for 6 months, or $100 for one year.FarahOn Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote:

Well let's see. I do say an hour a day. @ $100 an hr $36500. So if each paid $100 a year or ~30 cents a day that woDr.uld be fabtastic. I may actually spend 2+ hr a day. So half is for the dun and education I get.

Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, marysue hopper <marysuehopper (DOT) co.nz> wrote:

There's no way you would ever recoup your hourly rate for the work you do here. Thanks for your clinical management of this forum.

Sue

From: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac>hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:22:06 AMSubject: Re: Results of Renin activity and

Aldosterone

Contgrats you have PA as I think I suggested early on. Spiro and DASH recommended.ACEs make renin and aldo go up because the block the conversion of AI to AII and/or lower BP. AII lower renin. As renin goes up it can still overcome ACE and more AII kicks adrenal aldo production.

Recall that normally I charge $500/yr for this sort of detailed consultation. Guess you can send me what you think this has been worth or not.CE Grim MD

On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Vicki wrote:

Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board! I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs done. I will give you the results of both labs.

Feb. 2, 2010aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95March 3, 2010Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on March 3 it was

102.96 So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?Any insight would be appreciated! Vicki

[Guest guest]

and thanks from me.....

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Vicki Ritchie

Sent: Monday, 8 March 2010 4:57 AM

hyperaldosteronism

Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and

Aldosterone

Really? Just one or two hours a day? I would have thought

much more! Sue is so right! Thanks from me also!

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...>

wrote:

Well let's see. I do say an hour a day. @ $100

an hr $36500. So if each paid $100 a year or ~30 cents a day that would

be fabtastic. I may actually spend 2+ hr a day. So half is for the dun and

education I get.

Tiped sad Send form mi

iPhone ;-)

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, marysue hopper <marysuehopper@...>

wrote:

There's no

way you would ever recoup your hourly rate for the work you do here.

Thanks for your clinical management of this forum.

Sue

From: Clarence Grim

<lowerbp2@...>

hyperaldosteronism

Sent: Sun, 7 March, 2010 8:22:06 AM

Subject: Re: Results of Renin activity and

Aldosterone

Contgrats you have PA as I think I suggested early on. Spiro and DASH

recommended.

ACEs make renin and aldo go up because the block the

conversion of AI to AII and/or lower BP. AII lower renin. As renin

goes up it can still overcome ACE and more AII kicks adrenal aldo production.

Recall that normally I charge $500/yr for this sort of

detailed consultation. Guess you can send me what you think this has been

worth or not.

CE Grim MD

On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Vicki wrote:

Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done earlier in the

week. These were the second set of results that I have had as I was on an ace

inhibitor when I had the first labs done. I will give you the results of both

labs.

Feb. 2, 2010

aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

March 3, 2010

Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am calculating the ratio

correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on March 3 it was 102.96

So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

Any insight would be appreciated!

Vicki

[Guest guest]

I have the same thoughts. As it as now there are only about 10 that are active

members. Most likey not many others would pay to stay in group.

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> >>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> >>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> >>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> >>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> >>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> >>>

> >>> Feb. 2, 2010

> >>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> >>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> >>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> >>>

> >>> March 3, 2010

> >>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> >>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> >>>

> >>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> >>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> >>> March 3 it was 102.96

> >>>

> >>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> >>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> >>>

> >>> Vicki

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> > > >>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> > > >>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> > > >>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> > > >>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> > > >>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Feb. 2, 2010

> > > >>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>>

> > > >>> March 3, 2010

> > > >>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> > > >>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> > > >>> March 3 it was 102.96

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> > > >>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Vicki

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

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> > > >>

> > > >>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> > > >>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> > > >>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> > > >>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> > > >>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Feb. 2, 2010

> > > >>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>>

> > > >>> March 3, 2010

> > > >>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> > > >>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> > > >>> March 3 it was 102.96

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> > > >>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Vicki

> > > >>>

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> > > >>

> > > >>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> > > >>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> > > >>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> > > >>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> > > >>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Feb. 2, 2010

> > > >>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>>

> > > >>> March 3, 2010

> > > >>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> > > >>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> > > >>> March 3 it was 102.96

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> > > >>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Vicki

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

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I am on the meds because before I got this group I had never heard of DASH. What

I am trying to find out if I take the meds and cut my sodium back to 1500 mg. Am

I going to have problems.

> > > >>

> > > >>> Hi Dr. Grim and members of this wonderful board!

> > > >>> I finally got my results back from my lab work that I had done

> > > >>> earlier in the week. These were the second set of results that I

> > > >>> have had as I was on an ace inhibitor when I had the first labs

> > > >>> done. I will give you the results of both labs.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Feb. 2, 2010

> > > >>> aldosterone urine 28 ref range 2 - 21

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 45.9 ref range upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>> renin 1.86 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>>

> > > >>> March 3, 2010

> > > >>> Renin 0.27 ref range upright 1.31-3.95

> > > >>> aldosterone serum 27.8 upright 4.0-31.0

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So, my aldosterone went down as well as my renin. If I am

> > > >>> calculating the ratio correctly, it was 24.67 on Feb 2 and on

> > > >>> March 3 it was 102.96

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So what does this all mean? Why would my aldosterone go down?

> > > >>> Any insight would be appreciated!

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Vicki

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