Re: Please recommend doctor in eastern Mass

November 4, 2009

Not on spiro. His treatment it to give K and try to give meds to lower BP. meds

are 25MG ATENOLOL 50MG TRIAMTERENE 20MEQ POTASSIUM CHLORIDE 60MG FUROSEMIDE .

Also wants me on 180 MG DILTIAZEM I have tried to add this but every time it

makes my more tired.

>

> >

> > Perhaps you need to write him a letter and tell him that if you

> > have PA, you would most definitely be treated differently. PA

> > without an aldo blocker = early death. Send him Dr. Grim's paper

> > and ask that he read it.

> >

> > Not having choice is a bitch.

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: hyperaldosteronism

> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill

> >

> > No I am the one that has the VA doctor that told me if I had PA he

> > would still treat me the same why he treating now. So not likey to

> > get spiro from him.

> >

>

November 4, 2009

Most of what I have put on here about my treatment and how they don't work as

expected to you are diagnostic for PA. I know to be sure you do more testing.

But more then likey you are right that I have PA.

You said you e-mailed Dr. Ted Goodfriend about finding someone in the VA they

could help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > $1 mill is a criteria?

> > > > > > > And yet they don't know PA?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maybe they should just do breast surgery and cut the

> > > > > > science?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And you want one guy to straighten them out instead of

> > > > > > treating patients?

> > > > > > > Get real, Francis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My Dr relies on me to straighten out their staff, they

> > > > > > don't have time for

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just logic dictates I want the top ten med school guys

> > > > > > working on the main

> > > > > > > things - CVD, cancer, diabetes, and let me work the

> > > > > > minor crap myself.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > BTW, a lot of new Dr's don't even come from this

> > > > > > country.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Re: Please recommend

> > > > > > doctor in eastern Mass

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You have to look at Dartmouth as

> > > > > > being one of the top ten med schools in

> > > > > > > the US. just the fact that a Doctor has gone to

> > > > > > Dartmouth means that they

> > > > > > > will earn 1,000,000 in there life time then doctors

> > > > > > form other med schools

> > > > > > > do.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But when it comes to PA they seem somewhat lacking in

> > > > > > doctors that know the

> > > > > > > proper way to test for it. If my experience with them

> > > > > > is any indication as

> > > > > > > to how they train doctors about PA then most likey

> > > > > > they are not training

> > > > > > > them right. In my case if what Dr Grim says there is

> > > > > > no good way to test for

> > > > > > > PA based on the meds I take. But Gr grim also thinks

> > > > > > by how the meds work on

> > > > > > > me that PA is very likey in me. Something one of the

> > > > > > top teaching hospitals

> > > > > > > missed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is it worth Dr Grims's time to try to train them only

> > > > > > he can decide this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

November 4, 2009

Francis,

Spironolactone is very cheap, like 4$ at Walmart.

Surely, there's a dr near you that will write it.

He doesn't hafta be from Dartmouth.

Regards

Re: Please> > > > recommend> > > > > > doctor in eastern Mass> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You have to look at Dartmouth as> > > > > > being one of the top ten med schools in> > > > > > > the US. just the fact that a Doctor has gone> > > > to> > > > > > Dartmouth means that they> > > > > > > will earn 1,000,000 in there life time then> > > > doctors> > > > > > form other med schools> > > > > > > do.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But when it comes to PA they seem somewhat> > > > lacking in> > > > > > doctors that know the> > > > > > > proper way to test for it. If my experience> > > > with them> > > > > > is any indication as> > > > > > > to how they train doctors about PA then most> > > > likey> > > > > > they are not training> > > > > > > them right. In my case if what Dr Grim says> > > > there is> > > > > > no good way to test for> > > > > > > PA based on the meds I take. But Gr grim> > > > also thinks> > > > > > by how the meds work on> > > > > > > me that PA is very likey in me. Something> > > > one of the> > > > > > top teaching hospitals> > > > > > > missed.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Is it worth Dr Grims's time to try to train> > > > them only> > > > > > he can decide this.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > >> > > > > >

November 4, 2009

Then you have no choice but to self-treat.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill

I have tried He has no interest in Dr Grim.

>

> Perhaps you need to write him a letter and tell him that if you have PA,

you

> would most definitely be treated differently. PA without an aldo blocker =

> early death. Send him Dr. Grim's paper and ask that he read it.

>

> Not having choice is a bitch.

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ]

On Behalf Of Francis Bill

>

> No I am the one that has the VA doctor that told me if I had PA he would

> still treat me the same why he treating now. So not likey to get spiro

from

> him.

>

November 4, 2009

He asked that I send your SS number and he will look you up.CE Grim MDOn Nov 4, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Francis Bill wrote: Most of what I have put on here about my treatment and how they don't work as expected to you are diagnostic for PA. I know to be sure you do more testing. But more then likey you are right that I have PA. You said you e-mailed Dr. Ted Goodfriend about finding someone in the VA they could help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $1 mill is a criteria? > > > > > > > And yet they don't know PA? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe they should just do breast surgery and cut the > > > > > > science? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you want one guy to straighten them out instead of > > > > > > treating patients? > > > > > > > Get real, Francis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dr relies on me to straighten out their staff, they > > > > > > don't have time for > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just logic dictates I want the top ten med school guys > > > > > > working on the main > > > > > > > things - CVD, cancer, diabetes, and let me work the > > > > > > minor crap myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, a lot of new Dr's don't even come from this > > > > > > country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Please recommend > > > > > > doctor in eastern Mass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to look at Dartmouth as > > > > > > being one of the top ten med schools in > > > > > > > the US. just the fact that a Doctor has gone to > > > > > > Dartmouth means that they > > > > > > > will earn 1,000,000 in there life time then doctors > > > > > > form other med schools > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But when it comes to PA they seem somewhat lacking in > > > > > > doctors that know the > > > > > > > proper way to test for it. If my experience with them > > > > > > is any indication as > > > > > > > to how they train doctors about PA then most likey > > > > > > they are not training > > > > > > > them right. In my case if what Dr Grim says there is > > > > > > no good way to test for > > > > > > > PA based on the meds I take. But Gr grim also thinks > > > > > > by how the meds work on > > > > > > > me that PA is very likey in me. Something one of the > > > > > > top teaching hospitals > > > > > > > missed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it worth Dr Grims's time to try to train them only > > > > > > he can decide this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 4, 2009

OK I have sent it to you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > $1 mill is a criteria?

> > > > > > > > > And yet they don't know PA?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Maybe they should just do breast surgery and cut the

> > > > > > > > science?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And you want one guy to straighten them out instead of

> > > > > > > > treating patients?

> > > > > > > > > Get real, Francis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My Dr relies on me to straighten out their staff, they

> > > > > > > > don't have time for

> > > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just logic dictates I want the top ten med school guys

> > > > > > > > working on the main

> > > > > > > > > things - CVD, cancer, diabetes, and let me work the

> > > > > > > > minor crap myself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > BTW, a lot of new Dr's don't even come from this

> > > > > > > > country.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Re: Please recommend

> > > > > > > > doctor in eastern Mass

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have to look at Dartmouth as

> > > > > > > > being one of the top ten med schools in

> > > > > > > > > the US. just the fact that a Doctor has gone to

> > > > > > > > Dartmouth means that they

> > > > > > > > > will earn 1,000,000 in there life time then doctors

> > > > > > > > form other med schools

> > > > > > > > > do.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But when it comes to PA they seem somewhat lacking in

> > > > > > > > doctors that know the

> > > > > > > > > proper way to test for it. If my experience with them

> > > > > > > > is any indication as

> > > > > > > > > to how they train doctors about PA then most likey

> > > > > > > > they are not training

> > > > > > > > > them right. In my case if what Dr Grim says there is

> > > > > > > > no good way to test for

> > > > > > > > > PA based on the meds I take. But Gr grim also thinks

> > > > > > > > by how the meds work on

> > > > > > > > > me that PA is very likey in me. Something one of the

> > > > > > > > top teaching hospitals

> > > > > > > > > missed.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Is it worth Dr Grims's time to try to train them only

> > > > > > > > he can decide this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

November 4, 2009

Yes

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > recommended

> > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > group. You

> > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > trying to

> > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > you may

> > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 4, 2009

Did they read it?On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:20 PM, toben84 wrote: Yes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you > > recommended > > > > > > > a Dr > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his > > group. You > > > > > > > > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been > > trying to > > > > > > > > > locate him > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at > > Brighams and > > > > > > > > > Womans in > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that > > you may > > > > > > > have for > > > > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 4, 2009

Orthostatic Hypotension, vomiting, persistent cough and sore throat. They felt

that the orthostatic hypotension was an interaction with other meds but that the

other symptoms were an indication that I was having a reaction to the spirno.

Had similar reaction to Lisinopril. The spirno did lower my BP.

Symptoms, Aldo to renin ratio, uncontrolled BP on various meds, AVS results,

high aldo in blood, low potassium and magnesium, one positive saline infusion

all seem to me to indicate PA. Current PCP is relying on my endo who seems to be

more interested in discrediting the other endo I saw (saw the other endo when I

was hospitalized in a different hospital). I need to walk away from them and

start fresh. I would not mind him questioning the other endo if he had a game

plan for my BP and he does not, stating that he doesn't know what is up with me.

Think I have made the correct call to move on.

I have been DASHing since April and feel much better when I DASH. It also had a

positive affect on my BP, although it is still much too high. 150-180/100-130.

Average while DASHing is 152/114.

Thanks

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > recommended

> > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his group.

> > You

> > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > trying to

> > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > you may

> > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 4, 2009

No.

Zero interest.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > group. You

> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information

> > that

> > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 4, 2009

what is your Bp et doing on spiro.Thanks. CE grim MDOn Nov 4, 2009, at 10:59 PM, toben84 wrote: Orthostatic Hypotension, vomiting, persistent cough and sore throat. They felt that the orthostatic hypotension was an interaction with other meds but that the other symptoms were an indication that I was having a reaction to the spirno. Had similar reaction to Lisinopril. The spirno did lower my BP. Symptoms, Aldo to renin ratio, uncontrolled BP on various meds, AVS results, high aldo in blood, low potassium and magnesium, one positive saline infusion all seem to me to indicate PA. Current PCP is relying on my endo who seems to be more interested in discrediting the other endo I saw (saw the other endo when I was hospitalized in a different hospital). I need to walk away from them and start fresh. I would not mind him questioning the other endo if he had a game plan for my BP and he does not, stating that he doesn't know what is up with me. Think I have made the correct call to move on. I have been DASHing since April and feel much better when I DASH. It also had a positive affect on my BP, although it is still much too high. 150-180/100-130. Average while DASHing is 152/114. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you > > recommended > > > > > > a Dr > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his group. > > You > > > > > > > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been > > trying to > > > > > > > > locate him > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at > > Brighams and > > > > > > > > Womans in > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that > > you may > > > > > > have for > > > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 4, 2009

Went down to 120-130/90-100 average was 122/92.

Thank you

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > group.

> > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > > > you may

> > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 5, 2009

cough, sore throat -acid reflux has these symptoms.... vomiting...

I wonder if something for the stomach would have helped...

Lisinopril and all the other ACE's and even the ARB's seem to cause cough...

spiro? Obviously, you had some type of rxn/side effect.

I wonder if you were started more slowly and titrated up more slowly with

something for the stomach if you could tolerate it.. Maybe it was dosed too

high too fast. If it is an allergic rxn, be careful when you re-start!

Starting reak slowly, lower than usual? perhaps would minimize the orthostatic

hypotension..

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > recommended

> > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his group.

> > > You

> > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > > you may

> > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 5, 2009

If you live in westen Mass why are you going to Boston? If they do retest you

and find you do have PA are you planing on going there for treatment as well.

Seems like Springfield or Hartford would be a better choice.

If you still want to go to Boston then MASS General seems to have a good place

to go. It is rated as no 2 by thes report

http://health.usnews.com/health/best-hospitals/diabetes-and-endocrine-disorders-\

hospital-rankings/state+/page_number+1/page_size+25/sort+rank/name+

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > group.

> > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

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November 5, 2009

Do you have the numbers I belive Dr Grim can give you a better idea on what is

going on if you give more information. Need to know what meds you were on when

all test were done.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > recommended

> > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his group.

> > > You

> > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

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November 5, 2009

I think a good test as to how know if you have good DR is to ask if they know of

DR Grim. If they are keeping up on PA they are going to know who he is. If one

does a google search of his name there seems to be no end to the hits it brings

up. I would bet that any Dr that has Zero interest in any thing he done knows

nothing about PA. If they know know nothing abour PA then do you want them to

treat you? I have the same kind of doctor but am hopeing some one at the VA has

the knowledge to treat PA.

Dr Grim is helping me with this hopefuly at last I will get some answers. Dr

Grim is one of a very small group of doctors that became a doctor to help

people.

Thank you Dr Grim for all the help you have given me.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > > group. You

> > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information

> > > that

> > > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 5, 2009

What we need is other Dr like DR Grim to join this group. I do think that Dr

Grim should give his OK to any other doctors.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > > > group. You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information

> > > > that

> > > > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Called four doctors in the Springfield area and posted results last week. I am

going to Boston because Dr Grim suggested a doctor there, my PCP will work with

that doctor to manage my treatment locally.

But have to say I am pretty fed up with your questioning my every move, I don't

find it the least bit helpful.

I am going to drop out of the group now.

Thanks to all that contributed constructive guidance.

Steve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > group.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > > > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

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November 5, 2009

Called four doctors in the Springfield area and posted results last week. I am

going to Boston because Dr Grim suggested a doctor there, my PCP will work with

that doctor to manage my treatment locally.

But have to say I am pretty fed up with your questioning my every move, I don't

find it the least bit helpful.

I am going to drop out of the group now.

Thanks to all that contributed constructive guidance.

Steve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > group.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > > > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 5, 2009

My reason for my questions was trying to decide what my should do next. If it

seened like like I was questioning your every move I am sorry for that It is

that I have a family near Springfield and was trying to find out if you had look

at someone there.

As to Dartmouth I was tested there but the Meds I am on most likey messed up the

test. So was trying to find out how you tested you.

Maybe I asked the questions wrong but questions and answers are how we help each

other in this group.

I do try to read as much as I can on this group sometimes it gets hard to keep

up. So I must have missed your other postings.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > > group.

> > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > > > > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much!

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November 5, 2009

Excellent. May need to back off some on the spiro if you are still on it or start again if you are off it.CE Grim MDOn Nov 5, 2009, at 12:53 AM, toben84 wrote: Went down to 120-130/90-100 average was 122/92. Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > a Dr > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his > > group. > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > locate him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at > > > > Brighams and > > > > > > > > > > Womans in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that > > > > you may > > > > > > > > have for > > > > > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 5, 2009

You can take a horse to water....CE Grim, MDOn Nov 4, 2009, at 11:02 PM, toben84 wrote: No. Zero interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > a Dr > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his > > > > group. You > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > > locate him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at > > > > Brighams and > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information > > that > > > > you may > > > > > > > > > have for > > > > > > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 5, 2009

perhaps you might want to do the digest and read the ones you want.CE Grim MDOn Nov 5, 2009, at 9:02 AM, toben84 wrote: Called four doctors in the Springfield area and posted results last week. I am going to Boston because Dr Grim suggested a doctor there, my PCP will work with that doctor to manage my treatment locally. But have to say I am pretty fed up with your questioning my every move, I don't find it the least bit helpful. I am going to drop out of the group now. Thanks to all that contributed constructive guidance. Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > > a Dr > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his > > > > group. > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been > > > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > locate him > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at > > > > > > Brighams and > > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that > > > > > > you may > > > > > > > > > > have for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 5, 2009

OK I need help If my questions here seem pushey I would like to know and will

try to do better. Also this is my other questions I asked him

hyperaldosteronism/message/17469

He does seem to have left the group as his email no longer comes up in search.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Dr Grim,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live in western MA and a while ago you

> > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > a Dr

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gordon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or the doctors that work in his

> > > > > group.

> > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is at Harvard and my PCP and I have been

> > > > > > > trying to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > locate him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without success. Do you know if he works at

> > > > > > > Brighams and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Womans in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boston? Would appreciate any information that

> > > > > > > you may

> > > > > > > > > > > have for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him.

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I imagine he's going to Boston so he doesn't end up with a

doctor like you're stuck with.

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> If you live in westen Mass why are you going to Boston? If they do retest

you and find you do have PA are you planing on going there for treatment as

well. Seems like Springfield or Hartford would be a better choice.

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> If you still want to go to Boston then MASS General seems to have a good

place to go. It is rated as no 2 by thes report http://health.usnews.com/health/best-hospitals/diabetes-and-endocrine-disorders-hospital-rankings/state+/page_number+1/page_size+25/sort+rank/name+

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