melatonin

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In a message dated 1/12/2006 9:22:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

kevmac1994@... writes:

wake up in the night and I believe it was Dr. Pangborn? that suggests to use

a sustained release form of melatonin. I think Kirkman carries the

product.

Hope this helps.

ann

you can by the timed release melatonin in most health food stores.

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I think he is reacting to the filler or other items in the supplement.

Melatonin is a natural hormone that everyone produces to sleep. My 2

cents Ann

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I agree with Ann. I doubt he's allergic to melatonin since it's

something his body produces anyway (at least to some degree). As with

most supplements, there are different qualities available and many

types of fillers and compositions.

S.

>

> I think he is reacting to the filler or other items in the

supplement.

> Melatonin is a natural hormone that everyone produces to sleep. My

2

> cents Ann

>

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The only problem we have had with melatonin is that the dose we were

giving would not be enough and we would have to up the dose.

I do not think that it is the melatonin. Do a search for other

messages for " red cheeks " I have seen prior posts on the topic.

>

> Has anyone ever experienced a melatonin intolerence?

> It seems like every night, I give my son melatonin ( 1 mg )

> and about 1/2 hour later, he lies down and starts dosing off, and

his

> cheeks are flaming red. I've noticed that for a while now, and

all I

> can come up with is the melatonin.

> Thanks.

>

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,

The most inexpensive and effective melatonin we have found is Vitamin Shoppe

brand, 3 mgs sublingual.

[ ] melatonin

what Melatonin brands do people use? I have a NT almost 13 year old that has

difficulty falling asleep. Any recommendations?

Thanks,

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That depends. Some kids are fine with 1.5-3 mgs at night. Other kids do better

with just a tiny, tiny amount. You have to experiment with it.

[ ] melatonin

How much melatonin is ok to give to a 6 yr old child? T has trouble with sleep

issues as a whole, she was on Trazadone, but we weaned her from that due to

other issues, now we are stuck with no sleep. Any suggestions would be great. We

pulled all supplements and meds to get a good baseline so that we may start

chelating again and also revamp her supp. regimen, so we are having a rough time

right now.

Thanks

klm

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Usually you find the 3 mg tabs. Crush it up and give half in juice..try that 1st

& see how that works. I use that on my 35 pounder. Out in 20-30 minutes

Lillian

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[ ] melatonin

How much melatonin is ok to give to a 6 yr old child? T has trouble with sleep

issues as a whole, she was on Trazadone, but we weaned her from that due to

other issues, now we are stuck with no sleep. Any suggestions would be great. We

pulled all supplements and meds to get a good baseline so that we may start

chelating again and also revamp her supp. regimen, so we are having a rough time

right now.

Thanks

klm

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we too are using Trazadone with good success. We introduced Natural Calm, which

is a magnesium powder that helps with sleep as well as constipation issues.

Good luck,

Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

That depends. Some kids are fine with 1.5-3 mgs at night. Other kids

do better with just a tiny, tiny amount. You have to experiment with it.

[ ] melatonin

How much melatonin is ok to give to a 6 yr old child? T has trouble with sleep

issues as a whole, she was on Trazadone, but we weaned her from that due to

other issues, now we are stuck with no sleep. Any suggestions would be great. We

pulled all supplements and meds to get a good baseline so that we may start

chelating again and also revamp her supp. regimen, so we are having a rough time

right now.

Thanks

klm

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If you can find their site, Emerald Labs has a liquid form that is very good.

You have to call to order it.

[ ] melatonin

what Melatonin brands do people use? I have a NT almost 13 year old that has

difficulty falling asleep. Any recommendations?

Thanks,

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My two cents.

Source Naturals offers Melatonin in 1mg, 3mg, 5mg strengths at most health

food stores. We reduced to the 1mg and paid $7.95 for 100 peppermint flavored

and I think they were sublinguals. My son loves his " night candy " and takes it

willingly. Trying to start SCD and its not allowed but I'm not stopping. It

works for us. Besides he loves that 24 hour yogurt and thank God I found a

maker for less than $50!

April

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Please tell me where and what kind of yogurt maker you found!

april cullins <aprilcullins@...> wrote: My two cents.

Source Naturals offers Melatonin in 1mg, 3mg, 5mg strengths at most health food

stores. We reduced to the 1mg and paid $7.95 for 100 peppermint flavored and I

think they were sublinguals. My son loves his " night candy " and takes it

willingly. Trying to start SCD and its not allowed but I'm not stopping. It

works for us. Besides he loves that 24 hour yogurt and thank God I found a maker

for less than $50!

April

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We use Kirkman's Melatonin Plus. It has Magnesium also.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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On Behalf Of Ken Maher

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:22 AM

Subject: [ ] melatonin

what Melatonin brands do people use? I have a NT almost 13 year old that has

difficulty falling asleep. Any recommendations?

Thanks,

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You can go up to 3mg.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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On Behalf Of Karyn

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:37 AM

Subject: [ ] melatonin

How much melatonin is ok to give to a 6 yr old child? T has trouble with

sleep issues as a whole, she was on Trazadone, but we weaned her from that

due to other issues, now we are stuck with no sleep. Any suggestions would

be great. We pulled all supplements and meds to get a good baseline so that

we may start chelating again and also revamp her supp. regimen, so we are

having a rough time right now.

Thanks

klm

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Hi Kathy, we have spoke before, regarding never going to sleep, I solved my

problem with my twins, it called Ice Hockey... I have in hockey 3 times a

week and they are so tired they are asleep by nine and up at 7:30. Keeping

them active during Hockey camps in the summer they are in bed by 8:00. No

fighting, they are just hungry and they fall asleep, on the weekend we are down

the shore, which they can stay in the water for 3 to 4 hours or in our town

pool for 4 hours straight, they have a lot of energy.

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Hi Kathy, we have spoke before, regarding never going to sleep, I solved my

problem with my twins, it called Ice Hockey... I have in hockey 3 times a

week and they are so tired they are asleep by nine and up at 7:30. Keeping

them active during Hockey camps in the summer they are in bed by 8:00. No

fighting, they are just hungry and they fall asleep, on the weekend we are down

the shore, which they can stay in the water for 3 to 4 hours or in our town

pool for 4 hours straight, they have a lot of energy.

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Maurine - I feel your sleepiness! I heard at a DAN conference once

that if he has the middle of the night or really early waking, to add

5-HTP to his bedtime meds. From our experience, it seems to work a

lot of the time. Now, I assume you are writing this b/c last night

or the night before was a tough night and I know some people think

this is baloney, but... it was a full moon. I have noticed that my

little guy's sleep patterns are WAY OFF when there is a full moon.

Go figure.

I'd try the 5-HTP; 50 mg and see if that helps. Good luck!

>

> This is a really dumb question, but I am going to ask it anyway.

> Our son routinely wakes up between 4:00-4:30 AM almost every day.

> On the very rare day that he sleeps until 5:30-6:00 AM, he has a

> much better day. Moving his bedtime back is no use because he

still

> wakes up early. He falls asleep very easily, but of course he is

> exhausted by 7:30 PM. Sometimes I give him melatonin if he fights

> sleep, but he usually goes to sleep with no problem.

>

> We just received test results from his DAN physician. He has

> elevated levels of lead and mercury and high levels of nickel and

> tin. We are in the process of chelating him. There are some other

> problems, also, one of which is elevated IAG. From what I

> understand, IAG is an abnormal metabolite of tryptophan which is

the

> precursor to seratonin. We are hoping that his inability to break

> down tryptophan is related to the heavy metals and that the problem

> will correct itself once the heavy metals are out of his system.

We

> are addressing the other issues through supplements, enzymes, etc.

> and feel that we are on the right track. Our son has been GFCF

> since early August. My question is this: Since staying asleep is

a

> problem, would giving him melatonin around perhaps midnight or 1:00

> AM help him sleep later than 4:00 AM? I was thinking of getting

> some melatonin drops and putting a few drops under his tongue while

> he is sleeping.

>

> Maureen

>

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I just went to a seminar and Dr. Hicks spoke about parasites and a full moon.

Really gross but, most children with " worms " get squirmy at a full moon and he

said it's very common (especially in the southern states where our ground never

freezes and kids play in the dirt) but it's also curable. I think the drug he

uses is Worm-ex (spelling?). Best wishes Dianne

borntoshopjc <borntoshopjc@...> wrote: Maurine - I feel your

sleepiness! I heard at a DAN conference once

that if he has the middle of the night or really early waking, to add

5-HTP to his bedtime meds. From our experience, it seems to work a

lot of the time. Now, I assume you are writing this b/c last night

or the night before was a tough night and I know some people think

this is baloney, but... it was a full moon. I have noticed that my

little guy's sleep patterns are WAY OFF when there is a full moon.

Go figure.

I'd try the 5-HTP; 50 mg and see if that helps. Good luck!

>

> This is a really dumb question, but I am going to ask it anyway.

> Our son routinely wakes up between 4:00-4:30 AM almost every day.

> On the very rare day that he sleeps until 5:30-6:00 AM, he has a

> much better day. Moving his bedtime back is no use because he

still

> wakes up early. He falls asleep very easily, but of course he is

> exhausted by 7:30 PM. Sometimes I give him melatonin if he fights

> sleep, but he usually goes to sleep with no problem.

>

> We just received test results from his DAN physician. He has

> elevated levels of lead and mercury and high levels of nickel and

> tin. We are in the process of chelating him. There are some other

> problems, also, one of which is elevated IAG. From what I

> understand, IAG is an abnormal metabolite of tryptophan which is

the

> precursor to seratonin. We are hoping that his inability to break

> down tryptophan is related to the heavy metals and that the problem

> will correct itself once the heavy metals are out of his system.

We

> are addressing the other issues through supplements, enzymes, etc.

> and feel that we are on the right track. Our son has been GFCF

> since early August. My question is this: Since staying asleep is

a

> problem, would giving him melatonin around perhaps midnight or 1:00

> AM help him sleep later than 4:00 AM? I was thinking of getting

> some melatonin drops and putting a few drops under his tongue while

> he is sleeping.

>

> Maureen

>

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Hi, you need tryptophan in order for melatonin to work. Would 5HTP tryptophan

be broken down enough for him to absorb it? The tryptopahn may be enough alone

to kick in natural melatonin production or you could try both at once.

borntoshopjc <borntoshopjc@...> wrote: Maurine - I feel your

sleepiness! I heard at a DAN conference once

that if he has the middle of the night or really early waking, to add

5-HTP to his bedtime meds. From our experience, it seems to work a

lot of the time. Now, I assume you are writing this b/c last night

or the night before was a tough night and I know some people think

this is baloney, but... it was a full moon. I have noticed that my

little guy's sleep patterns are WAY OFF when there is a full moon.

Go figure.

I'd try the 5-HTP; 50 mg and see if that helps. Good luck!

>

> This is a really dumb question, but I am going to ask it anyway.

> Our son routinely wakes up between 4:00-4:30 AM almost every day.

> On the very rare day that he sleeps until 5:30-6:00 AM, he has a

> much better day. Moving his bedtime back is no use because he

still

> wakes up early. He falls asleep very easily, but of course he is

> exhausted by 7:30 PM. Sometimes I give him melatonin if he fights

> sleep, but he usually goes to sleep with no problem.

>

> We just received test results from his DAN physician. He has

> elevated levels of lead and mercury and high levels of nickel and

> tin. We are in the process of chelating him. There are some other

> problems, also, one of which is elevated IAG. From what I

> understand, IAG is an abnormal metabolite of tryptophan which is

the

> precursor to seratonin. We are hoping that his inability to break

> down tryptophan is related to the heavy metals and that the problem

> will correct itself once the heavy metals are out of his system.

We

> are addressing the other issues through supplements, enzymes, etc.

> and feel that we are on the right track. Our son has been GFCF

> since early August. My question is this: Since staying asleep is

a

> problem, would giving him melatonin around perhaps midnight or 1:00

> AM help him sleep later than 4:00 AM? I was thinking of getting

> some melatonin drops and putting a few drops under his tongue while

> he is sleeping.

>

> Maureen

>

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We were having a problem with my son not falling asleep because of his

ADHD Meds. Someone suggested Melatonin so we talked to our

Psychiatrist about it. He cautioned against it because one of the side

affects can be reduced sperm count in boys/men. If your daughter is on

any ADHD meds maybe the doctor can try a different prescription that

will not keep her up. WEB MD has a lot of information on melatonin.

Because you have a girl it may be fine.

By the way I think your doctors suggestion to keep her up half the

night are horrible. So many of the suggestions from this group are

great. I would try experimenting and find a new routine that works for

you. I'm sure that you will get past this. Good luck.

Vickie

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My 14 yr old started on melatonin at the beginning of the year and it helps as

long as he (and we) remember to take it at suppertime. He takes 4.5 mg. He

still doesn't go to sleep until 10 - 11 at night but it's better than midnight

or 1 am. He's like your daughter and has always been a nightowl.

Hope that helps!

Ginger

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We tried it and didn't really see any results. Ian has never slept. Almost like he doesn't need it. Never took naps past 1 yr old or so. We've just adapted to him....and got past trying to make him sleep...hee hee. Since he's been on Respirdal,,,,he now sleeps. Ahhhh...... Robinhambonemcgee <hambonemcgee@...> wrote: My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved

over the years, but is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with any success. Thanks, Heidi

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We have tried it with our 5 yr old and it works to get him to sleep,

but not to stay asleep. I found that he also has to be calm and

relaxed for it to work. We never used it for days in a row, just when

we were having a tough night.

Our sleep issues were not as bad as yours (I feel terribly for you;

lack of sleep is the one thing that sends me over the edge), but it

may be worth a try. Our naturopath/DAN was the one who recommended it.

Good luck!

>

> My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with

> sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but

> is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in

> the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two

> hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not

> ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of

> thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard

> about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with

> any success.

> Thanks,

> Heidi

>

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melatonin has helped my 6.5 year old aspie sooooo much. he takes between 5-6mg each night and within 30-45 minutes he falls asleep and sleeps so peacefully for about 10 hours (that is how long he has always slept at night). It has been really great for our family.

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My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with any success. Thanks, Heidi

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Hi, My 16 yr. old Aspie was taking melatonin. It helped alittle. But he still had sleeping issues. So the Dr. put him on a prescribed medication called sonata. It's supposed to work fast, but is also supposed to be out of your system in like 2 hours. It's just to help get you to sleep, (doesn't mean they won't wake in the middle of the night, depending on your child.) It really works well for my son, and he doesn't have to take it every night, just school nights and nights he feel he won't have an easy time of getting to sleep. He's a night owl (like myself), and that's when his mind starts to think about the days events and such. I hope this info is of help. Sharon (Mon to Stan) esuyat <esuyat@...> wrote: We have tried it with our 5 yr old and it works to get him to sleep,but not to stay asleep. I found that he also has to be calm andrelaxed for it to work. We never used it for days in a row, just whenwe were having a tough night.Our sleep issues were not as bad as yours (I feel terribly for you;lack of sleep is the one thing that sends me over the edge), but itmay be worth a try. Our naturopath/DAN was the one who recommended it.Good luck! >>

My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with > sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but > is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she was up until 3 in > the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two > hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not > ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of > thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard > about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with > any success. > Thanks, > Heidi>

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Hi, It's Sharon again (Mom of Stan) I just wrote in about the melatonin issue. I forgot to mention I had taken it also for a day or 2. Made me fill a little anxious and jittery. I don't take it anymore. hambonemcgee <hambonemcgee@...> wrote: My almost 6 yr old daughter with HFA has always had issues with sleeping since she was a newborn. It has improved over the years, but is still a far cry from normal sleeping. Tuesday she

was up until 3 in the morning and then woke up at 9 Wednesday. She fell asleep for two hours and she woke up not feeling well, vomited and then she was not ill any longer but she was awake until 8 this morning. This kind of thing ( not the vomiting) happens at least once a week. I have heard about melatonin and was wondering if anyone else has tried this with any success. Thanks, Heidi

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