Re: Digest Number 238

[Guest guest]

Lynette,

Well, it depends!

In Dr. Neubauer's clinic we had 100% oxygen for the hour treatment, as well

as during the time to " go to depth " and " come to surface " .

In the Santa Clinic we have an hour session in total.

I do not have any comments one way or the other at this time and cannot

note which has been better, or worse.

Dr. pointed out to me that angiogenesis occurs after 15 to 20 minutes

of pressure; and I have confirmed this with some references.

The issue then becomes what else is going on that requires more time. In

reading about oxygen toxicity (notwithstanding Dr. Fojgel's issue with the

vernacular) and witnessing some sensitivity in my daughter

firsthand... I have to adamantly say, more oxygen can lead to less

return. (She is always ready and excited to go into the chamber for

her therapies... but, twice at the end of her first 100 sessions she was

very, very upset about going in the chamber for her second session in a

day. And, she is not a child that get upset, or refuses therapies!)

Further, regarding the various growth factors and proteins released during

HBOT, and viewing the short time frame that they are released, we COULD say

less is at least equal to more.

If the issue is the providing oxygen to the neurons, then the jury is still

out on how time of pressure affects this response.

I have to believe that we have a long ways to go to optimize treatments and

there are differing protocols that can be supported.

This is an area I really wish we could focus on with research instead of

debating with naysayers (who admit they have no expertise because they

refuse public debates) about the efficacy of HBOT. This would yield such

incredible value for us.

Warm Regards,

Ed Nemeth

At 07:13 AM 7/26/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Ed,

>Thank you so much for all the information. It was extremely helpful.

> I have one question I am still not clear on. If your child is in a

>mono chamber, he or she gets the oxygen while diving to the 1.5 ATA

>(approx. 15 minutes, one hour dive, and also 15 minutes up (approx.).

> In the multi, you wait until you get to 1.5 ATA, put on the hood

>(which is not like a mask, no problems with any child here on this

>trip), and only get the 100% oxygen for the one hour. This means an

>additional 30 minutes of 100% oxygen in the mono chamber. Does this

>additional oxygen in the mono chamber enhance the healing power of

>the chambers?

>Thank you so much for your time. Also, I need the info to join your

>organization!

>Thanks,

>Lynette

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/02 1:19:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

marilynjarz@... writes:

<< Wheat is much easier to sprout and I have solved the

mold problem. >>

you have solved the mold problem? how, with the GSE or peroxide? great! and

what is amylase and what does it do for you? inquiring minds want to know!

[Guest guest]

> What a great idea. I am going to do this. I found out

> by a saliva test that I am deficient in amylase. Well,

> 3-day old wheat sprouts are full of it. Believe it or

> not, I never figured out a way to make it palatable. I

> always tried to eat the sprouts (too chewy) or drink

> rejuvelac (just don't like it). But I think I can do

> this, . Thanks.

I hope this works well for you, Marilyn. I've been putting wheat,

oat, or lentil sprouts in the blender with a little yogurt and soy

milk, and a lot of berries or cherries and mmmmmm!!! Add in a t.

green powder for the extra goodies in it and you're all set.

Sometimes I add in bee pollen.

Melinda

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/21/2002 12:24:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> You

> guys need to think about how your comments may have affected Ang.

>

That is exactly what I thought and felt Vicki. LOVE TO US ALL!!! but

especially Ang right now. 0:) the other Vickie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/21/2002 12:24:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

>

> Remember folks, tolerance is a virtue.

>

>

U GO Vicki! We must have a special Vic type ESP. lol

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/21/2002 12:24:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> maybe I should leave the list I, AM

>

Ang, please don't leave the list. I, for one would be very upset and would

miss you. I'm sure there are others that feel that way too. We're all sorry

you were hurt. Everyone makes mistakes now and then and OVER REACT. Just give

it to God and let Him sort it out. Merry Christmas to all on this list,

believers and nonbelievers alike. 0:) Vickie

[Guest guest]

Hi

I have been trying to find " The Salicylate Handbook " I downloaded it, but

cannot find the web site since it did not download all the way. Could you

share it with me

Thanks

Jean

Digest Number 238

>

[Guest guest]

>but it seems to me as the years go by, we don't get

>better we get worse...anyone else notice this?

Yep. Your case sounds extreme and my heart feels for you.

Could you post an url for more information about the Zone diet. I haven't

heard of it before?

>>cannot work as I am so severely ill with this, it is impossible.

I found the same thing, but not with life threatening results. I became ill

when I worked full time, and finally spent the last three months of full

time employment on antibiotics. I work from home, as a writer, though I

don't make a lot of money but we've learned to live on a low income. The

hardest thing for me is giving up all the great healthy foods that most

people take for granted. That's why I chose desensitisation - so I can eat

what I want, but I'm not sure it's working all that well.

Re the tiles - have you fans blowing to clear the air faster? We kept the

house warm with a roaring fire and kept fans going when we did something

similar. It seemed to work.

all the best,

Beverley

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[Guest guest]

Hello Beverley,

> Could you post an url for more information about the Zone diet. I

haven't

> heard of it before?

Certainly...The Zone diet is actually the 40-30-30 plan of eating.

Are you familiar with it? Dr. Barry Sears has written several books

on the Zone Diet. He wrote the first one called, " Enter The Zone " for

cardiologists as his family has a history of heart disease. The first

book is much more technical but I found it easy to read. Has a great

section on eicosanoids/prostaglandins. The second book is

called " Matering The Zone " which some find easier reading and gives

you most of the information in a nutshell.

He has written several other Zone books about being in the Zone while

being a vegetarian, and the best Zone foods, etc...I didn't find them

to be extremely helpful but some might. I found all I needed in the

first two books.

Here is his website: http://www.zoneperfect.com/Site/Content/index.asp

> I found the same thing, but not with life threatening results. I

became ill

> when I worked full time, and finally spent the last three months of

full

> time employment on antibiotics. I work from home, as a writer,

though I

> don't make a lot of money but we've learned to live on a low

income. The

> hardest thing for me is giving up all the great healthy foods that

most

> people take for granted. That's why I chose desensitisation - so I

can eat

> what I want, but I'm not sure it's working all that well.

I take from what you are saying that you have only had Samter's for a

short time? Do you have more of the sinus problems or asthma? We have

also learned to live on a lower income. Not easy but since I cannot

eat hardly any foods, makes it easier. ))

On the healthier foods, no matter how healthy a food is if your body

has problems with it, it isn't healthy for you. For a long time I was

worried about not being able to eat *healthy* but everytime I ate the

more nutritious foods, within weeks I was very ill again. I found

that those healthy foods weren't healthy for me and I do better not

eating them. I try to take a multiple vitamin mineral as often as I

can but I react to those too.

> Re the tiles - have you fans blowing to clear the air faster? We

kept the

> house warm with a roaring fire and kept fans going when we did

something

> similar. It seemed to work.

Yes, we have all the windows open all day long and most of the night

with fans blowing but it is still bad. The weather turned cold here

and tonight we had to close up the house. Everytime we turn up the

furnace, it circulates the fumes into the rest of the house. I have

my room closed off and towels stuck under the door and the vents

closed into the room. It isn't as bad in that room doing that. I

think we will put the electric heater in the room and a fan up at the

window and try to outgas it a bit faster. We scraped up as much of

the glue as we could and hopefully the heat will dry the glue faster,

then I think we will put down ceramic tile instead of the vinyl. I

will never put vinyl tile down again!!

> all the best,

> Beverley

> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~beverleypaine

Thanks for your suggestions. Since I was so ill from this, I had

forgotten that raising the heat would help to outgas quicker. I think

I was just so overwhelmed and lost it for a few days.

[Guest guest]

ANY SLEEP

>

> LUCKY ME WELL,IT'S BEEN ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE NIGHTS WITHOUT ANY SLEEP.

> I'VE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO TRY AND GO TO SLEEP WITHOUT ANY SUCCESS.I

> THINK THAT SOME OF THE MEDICINE THAT I HAVE TO TAKE IS KEEPING ME AWAKE.

> I'M REALLY TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO GO TO SLEEP WHEN I GO TO BED. THIS

> HAPPENS ABOUT 4 0R 5 TIMES A WEEK, SO IT IS NOTHING NEW TO ME. IT IS JUST

> A BIG PAIN TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. IT SURE MAKES IT HARD TO GET ANYTHING

> DONE DURING THE DAY WHEN YOU HAVE TO SLEEP DURING THE DAY INSTEAD OF AT

> NIGHT.

> I JUST BET THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU GUYS OUT THERE THAT HAVE THE SAME

> PROBLEM. I WOULDN'T MIND IT SO MUCH IF MY NECK WASN'T HURTING SO BAD.

> WELL IT ISN'T TOO BAD,I GUESS. I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVE A JOB TO GO TO

> OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. LOL

> MAN,I HAVEN'T WORKED IN SO LONG THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE

> A JOB TO GO TO EVERY DAY.

> IT SURE WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO WORK INSTEAD OF JUST SIT AT HOME ALL

> DAY LONG AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.

> I'M WAITING TO GO BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE AT SOCIAL SECURITY

> TO SEE IF I WILL BE ABLE TO GET MY DISABILITY OR NOT.

> I TALKED TO A STAFF MEMBER AT THE HEARING OFFICE HERE WHERE I LIVE AND

> WAS TOLD THAT IT WILL BE 6 MONTHS TO A YEAR BEFORE I'M ABLE TO GET A

> HEARING DATE BECAUSE OF A 4,000 CASE BACKLOG.

> TYPICAL GOVERNMENT,HURRY UP AND WAIT. YOU HAVE TO HURRY AND THEN YOU GET

> TO WAIT. LOL

> WELL,I GUESS THAT I HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG,SO,I'LL STOP FOR NOW.

> MAY YOU ALL HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY

> AS TOMORROW.

> EVERYBODY TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

>

>

Boy can I understand that. My body after the night before like you, and

most of last night with no sleep... well about 4 am I must have just shut

down. My phone rang at 6:15 am, and I swear I didn't even know it wa smy

mom. She was making sure I was up to get my son ready for school. 2

hours... Yehaw... it's enough to go for 2 days right? I must admit about

half of it isn't back related... I have female problems. But my upper back

pain is in a BAD attack, and my female pain is killing me. I just don't

know how much longer I can live like this. I'm taking my morphine, eating

JUST enough to keep my sugars balanced. Drinkng literally JUST enough to be

hydrated, so I don't have to get up to pee often. I'm starting to get my I

haven't slept enogh migraine. And they are hell on earth. One of these

days one of these cycles will take me home to my sweet Jesus.

Teri

[Guest guest]

From: Jan Jenson <vizual@...>

Hi Marc!

What you're experiencing is SEVERE detox symptoms.

Obviously your body is still loaded with TOXIC stuff.

Double your water intake and keep taking at least one capsule a day

until you can tolerate more, then slowly increase to 2, then 3.

I've been taking Ambrotose since 1997 and it's truely a LIFESAVER.

I have a video (pre 1997) that describes how well that substance works

for cancer and AIDS patients (they are all still living!), so don't give up

too soon.

I had detox reactions from chia seeds too.

Both aloe and chia are detox agents... just double the water you're drinking

and tough it out... DON'T QUIT!!

My severe esens was a result of extremely high loads of heavy metal toxins.

Get FLOOR YOUR BODY WITH OXYGEN by Ed McCabe and be prepared

to " see the real picture " of what's going on in your body!

Jan Jenson

The Detox News

> Okay, I've now taken the Ambrotose for a few more days.

>

> This actually is NOT going to work for EMF protection

> because of tolerance problems. That is, although I

> could handle taking 2 capsules a day on the first

> day, as time went on I could only handle taking

> less and less. In fact, I've now broken open a

> capsule and taking fractional amounts of a capsule

> each day. Yesterday, I mixed some with a glass of

> water and drank only part of the glass, and probably

> only took the equivalent of 1/20th of a capsule,

> and STILL had tolerance problems!

>

> However, when speaking of tolerance problems, I've

> found in the past that there seem to be two different

> categories with me. With one category, my

> primary reaction is hyperactivity, chest pains and

> agitation (from Modifilan, Chia Seeds, and the Personal

> Rejuvenizer Pendant), and these products

> tend to test poorly with EAV testing and are

> discontinued almost immediately.