Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 This is from the NIH....51 cases have been reported....some very serious. This paper discusses a few of them....Silvia http://nccam.nih.gov/news/pastmeetings/blackcohosh_mtngsumm.pdf#casere port > > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, this has > > > > >upset me more than anything has in the past, I have struggled so > > > > >hard to get good grades, I have to re read things a million times > > > > >and sometimes I still cant remember what I read,, so I dont > > > > >know,, maybe he is right, I will never make a good doc, Who > > > > >knows,, anyway, have a good time,, > > > > >I love you too > > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER > let > > >someone > > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property > of > > >JoEllen > > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended only for the > > > > named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to > you > > >in error, > > > > please notify the sender at 415-731-4328 and delete this message > > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > > >retention,dissemination, > > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > > > > forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Sally the problem with black cohosh has been well documented , I sent ya some links I hope you had the time to look at them , including the fact sheet from the nih (national institute of health) . Trust me from first hand experience the stuff can hurt your liver ..... silvianursey <Bhprice425@...> wrote: This is from the NIH....51 cases have been reported....some very serious. This paper discusses a few of them....Silvia http://nccam.nih.gov/news/pastmeetings/blackcohosh_mtngsumm.pdf#casere port > > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, this has > > > > >upset me more than anything has in the past, I have struggled so > > > > >hard to get good grades, I have to re read things a million times > > > > >and sometimes I still cant remember what I read,, so I dont > > > > >know,, maybe he is right, I will never make a good doc, Who > > > > >knows,, anyway, have a good time,, > > > > >I love you too > > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER > let > > >someone > > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property > of > > >JoEllen > > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended only for the > > > > named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to > you > > >in error, > > > > please notify the sender at 415-731-4328 and delete this message > > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > > >retention,dissemination, > > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > > > > forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 27, 2005 I respectfully disagree with the validity of the association the report cited states that the links are anecdotal, and though bearing further research, are not considered concrete. The report, in fact, is an explanation of the establishment of a clearing house to gather reported events of liver toxicity associated with drugs/herbal products. And further is describing a proposed trial of Black Cohosh to see if there really is any link. I will withdraw even though I am concerned over your position of hepatotoxicity in the face of insufficient and inaccurate data. Based on that same sort of data, anecdotal, I can assure you that beta-carotene is hepatotoxic. That is a very broad and sweeping statement to apply to all people, even to all HCV sufferers. Many have no problems. But it makes me extremely sick, and its clearly my liver that is inflamed. Ultrasound produces acute inflamation in my liver, rendering me sick in bed for several weeks. But this is not a statement that should be made across the board. Similarly, the Black Cohosh data is anecdotal. I will await the further studies, and make no claims regarding toxicity of the substance. Sally Re: hey This is from the NIH....51 cases have been reported....some very serious. This paper discusses a few of them....Silvia http://nccam.nih.gov/news/pastmeetings/blackcohosh_mtngsumm.pdf#casere port > > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, this has > > > > >upset me more than anything has in the past, I have struggled so > > > > >hard to get good grades, I have to re read things a million times > > > > >and sometimes I still cant remember what I read,, so I dont > > > > >know,, maybe he is right, I will never make a good doc, Who > > > > >knows,, anyway, have a good time,, > > > > >I love you too > > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER > let > > >someone > > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property > of > > >JoEllen > > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended only for the > > > > named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to > you > > >in error, > > > > please notify the sender at 415-731-4328 and delete this message > > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > > >retention,dissemination, > > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > > > > forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 27, 2005 And you just never know Sally....it may work for thousands and then there could be that one case that has problems.....I guess it would be like any medication. Some of the women were also taking other herbal products...so it would be very difficult to tell which one caused the reaction or it was the combination. I don't know much about herbs Sally.....if someone mentions one I usually have to look it up. It is just not something they teach in Nursing school. Silvia > > > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, this > has > > > > > >upset me more than anything has in the past, I have > struggled so > > > > > >hard to get good grades, I have to re read things a million > times > > > > > >and sometimes I still cant remember what I read,, so I dont > > > > > >know,, maybe he is right, I will never make a good doc, Who > > > > > >knows,, anyway, have a good time,, > > > > > >I love you too > > > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER > > let > > > >someone > > > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property > > of > > > >JoEllen > > > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended only > for the > > > > > named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to > > you > > > >in error, > > > > > please notify the sender at 415-731-4328 and delete this > message > > > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > > > >retention,dissemination, > > > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > > > > > forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Sally, You are welcome!! Just doing my job. I think that is great that you document all your medications. I wish more people did. One of the things that I found in my years of nursing. And this is kind of funny. My older patients would bring to the doctor ever medication,vitamin,ointment,lotion,and so forth for us to have and make a list. My younger patients it was like pulling teeth to get all the medications they were on out of them. LOL Now I don't consider myself old now. LOL I am 52. But I have a list that I carry in my purse in case of accident,and I am unable to respond. Just makes it easier on those that have to write those dang ole H & P's. Oh and smiling is what I do best *Smile* LOL Love Janet Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote: Thanks Janet, All of my doctors are aware of all of my medications, vitamins, herbals, and supplements. I print out a fresh accounting every time I see one of my doctors. They get a fresh list with every doctor, every pharmacy, every pill, capsule, etc. Every adverse reaction I've been able to chase down and document, whether in the literature or not. I was one of the first to experience and report the bleeding problems <not gastric> with the ibuprofen product. My doctor at the time discounted it, but my pharmacist took note and reported it. Soon that side became reported as a " rare " incident, now its reported as " uncommon " , which is a bit more frequent than rare. I believed I saw a blanket indictment of the Black Cohosh on this list. Perhaps I misunderstood. If so, I apologize. I certainly would not prescribe a supplement for anyone. I can only say what my experience is, and research information, which I did. I also won't say that no one should ever use ginseng, even though ginseng and siberian ginseng both make me very ill, and they have both been listed both positive and negative in studies. Freezine one out in the Pacific North West in the summer is not an option. Airconditioning is very rare here. When the temperature outside gets warm, the inside gets warmer. I just sweat. Like I said, the summer is pretty much over here, now. I will see. Thank you for the smile. Sally I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 27, 2005 hahahaha my family accuses us of living in an igloo,, haha --- Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: > Dear Sally, > Every thing we eat,drink,take(medications and herbal > medications) is > metabolized through the liver. So while you have had > success with > black cohosh does not mean everyone would have the > same > results.*smile > I think the statement here would be that of use all > herbal, and > prescription medications with caution. Make sure > that your doctor is > aware of all the medications that you are currently > taking, that > includes herbal medications. > I for one stopped taking hormones along time ago. > Rather deal with > the symptoms of menopause on my own. And I am > careful to make sure > that I include calicum in my diet, get exercise to > prevent bone loss. > But that is me. > Now I will tell you, I will freeze you out if you > come to my house > because of the hot flashes. LOL Between menopause, > and the side > effect of effexor Xr being excessive sweating. I > keep my house on > the cool side. The family complains. I tell them to > get a blanket!! > LOL > Love > Janet > > > > > > > > > >JoEllen....may I ask you a question? During > treatment for a > Black > > lady > > > >(they have a very low success rate with > treatment), since we > needed > > > >to use whatever would increase her chances of > success, we made > the > > > >decision to give her hormone replacement since > she's post- > > > >menopausal. She is now done with her treatment > (she cleared!) > and > > > >would like to stop the Premarin....but doesn't > want the hot > > > >flashes....LOL... > > > > > > > >I said I would look into natural hormones, > risk, etc. I would > > > >appreciate your advice. Thanks. Silvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Silvia > > > We treat patients for menopausal sx all the time > using > acupuncture > > itself > > > or combined with herbs. THere are some very > commonly used > formulas > > that > > > Clear heat and nourish the Kidney.In this > context, the Kidney > > system, not > > > just the viscera itself as in western medicine > but - In Chinese > > Medicine > > > " Kidney " pertains to aging, growth, > reproduction. Often someone > > > complaining of sx like night sweats, thirst, > irritability, will > be > > given a > > > standard formula depending on the pattern of sx > they present. > This > > can vary > > > sa menopuase can be very involved for some > patients yet others > > breeze > > > through it barely noticing it. So for example > someone with alot > of > > internal > > > heat, night sweats, etc. will be given a > different rx for > example > > Zhi Bai > > > Di Huang Wan than someone whose symptoms are > different like for > > example > > > insomnia, difficulty concentrating, poor memory- > might be given > > somethign > > > like An Shen Bu Xin Wan which means roughly > Strengthen the Heart > > formula. > > > > > > If this patient made it through the Hep tx- the > rest - managing > her > > > menopausal sx should be a piece of cake! I would > encourage === message truncated === Jackie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 25, 2005 Hey Llinda, If you're up to traveling the place to go is s Hopkins. Call Dr. Carson for a referral. From personal experience he is a magician. He was Head of Neurosurgery now he is Head of Pediatric Neurosurgery. He does the Siamese twin separations. You may have seen him on TV he is a thin black man. He is probably the best physician I have ever encountered (of hundreds) and totally down to earth with no pretense whatsoever. A true Gentleman. Allan with 2 L's Hey Had my visit with the neurosurgeon yesterday. Very nice guy, open and honest. Got to see the films of my neck... looked like I had been sliced and diced. Saw the problems and got the word... he cannot help me. Oh well... I tried very hard to not get my hopes up but did a little anyway. He said my options are the same ole, ignore it and/or the pain clinic. Am bummed today but will get over it. To quote Yosemite Sam, and Connie... rasser frasser. Did I spell that right? Allan... just wanted to say it is good to see you back. Was waaaay too quiet from your direction. Llinda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 25, 2005 , I was so sorry to hear this bad news. Crap, rassum and frassum all at once. What will you do now? If you need to talk to me I am here, but i gotta tell you the only reason im using my caps is cuz someone made me aware of it. i have a tendon missing in my right arm, so the outer bone is a floater, and it makes the muscles way sore to reach for the stupid shift key so i got lazy. Is it unbearable pain, sweetie? I hope not, pain every day no matter what can wear a spirit down, so if you wanna talk you know how to get ahold of me. Love ya,ConnieLlinda <2llama@...> wrote: Had my visit with the neurosurgeon yesterday. Very nice guy, open and honest. Got to see the films of my neck... looked like I had been sliced and diced. Saw the problems and got the word... he cannot help me. Oh well... I tried very hard to not get my hopes up but did a little anyway. He said my options are the same ole, ignore it and/or the pain clinic. Am bummed today but will get over it. To quote Yosemite Sam, and Connie... rasser frasser. Did I spell that right? Allan... just wanted to say it is good to see you back. Was waaaay too quiet from your direction. Llinda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 1, 2005 It has been quiet today on here. I have 8 shots to go and I am looking forward to having a pony tail one day soon. Dick At 09:32 PM 11/1/05, you wrote: hi everyone hope you are all doing good. just hate when it gets so dam quiet in here. lol. Hope all on tx are coping well. hey Dick I wanted to tell ya that since i got off of tx my hair has grown so fast. It did before tx till it got to my shoulders and stopped. now it is still going. may for once in my life i may have the hair i want.... well probably not but i can wish right?? have a great day. d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Danne, I have good news for you!! My hair came back THICK and WAVY after about three month's cessation of tx. Yours will tooooooo!! (came back in with a lot of gray too, but that could just be my daughter and mother ) Conniedannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote: hi everyone hope you are all doing good. just hate when it gets so dam quiet in here. lol. Hope all on tx are coping well. hey Dick I wanted to tell ya that since i got off of tx my hair has grown so fast. It did before tx till it got to my shoulders and stopped. now it is still going. may for once in my life i may have the hair i want.... well probably not but i can wish right?? have a great day. d FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. The light at the end of the tunnel may be you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 After tonight, there are just 7 shots to go. It hasn't been a bad trip so far. There was a lot more good days than bad days. I am looking forward to the new year. I have three 4 day conferences that I am planning between January and June....too busy to have a bad day. Dick At 01:51 PM 11/2/05, you wrote: Thats not far away when you are finished.You will be finished in the New Year and starting a new year at the same time.Good Job. Gail Re: Hey It has been quiet today on here. I have 8 shots to go and I am looking forward to having a pony tail one day soon. Dick At 09:32 PM 11/1/05, you wrote: hi everyone hope you are all doing good. just hate when it gets so dam quiet in here. lol. Hope all on tx are coping well. hey Dick I wanted to tell ya that since i got off of tx my hair has grown so fast. It did before tx till it got to my shoulders and stopped. now it is still going. may for once in my life i may have the hair i want.... well probably not but i can wish right?? have a great day. d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Very COOL!!!! At 11:25 AM 11/2/05, you wrote: Danne, I have good news for you!! My hair came back THICK and WAVY after about three month's cessation of tx. Yours will tooooooo!! (came back in with a lot of gray too, but that could just be my daughter and mother ) Connie dannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote: hi everyone hope you are all doing good. just hate when it gets so dam quiet in here. lol. Hope all on tx are coping well. hey Dick I wanted to tell ya that since i got off of tx my hair has grown so fast. It did before tx till it got to my shoulders and stopped. now it is still going. may for once in my life i may have the hair i want.... well probably not but i can wish right?? have a great day. d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Thats not far away when you are finished.You will be finished in the New Year and starting a new year at the same time.Good Job. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Dick SouthernSent: November 1, 2005 10:00 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: HeyIt has been quiet today on here.I have 8 shots to go and I am looking forward to having a pony tail one day soon.DickAt 09:32 PM 11/1/05, you wrote: hi everyone hope you are all doing good. just hate when it gets so dam quiet in here. lol. Hope all on tx are coping well. hey Dick I wanted to tell ya that since i got off of tx my hair has grown so fast. It did before tx till it got to my shoulders and stopped. now it is still going. may for once in my life i may have the hair i want.... well probably not but i can wish right?? have a great day.d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Thanks Connie. I have always wanted thinner hair cause mine was so thick if I tried to wear it long I had headaches from hell cause it was so heavy. It is longer now than it has ever been. My nails have slowed down. But that is ok cause they are not healthy. Its like I traded my nails for my hair. oh well Im breathing, I would have short hair and short nails for the rest of my life just for my health to be better... Would be nice if we had those kind of choices.... well ok it would be tooooo weird. lol ok now Im rambling. love d connie mcclain <crochetlady1001@...> wrote: Danne, I have good news for you!! My hair came back THICK and WAVY after about three month's cessation of tx. Yours will tooooooo!! (came back in with a lot of gray too, but that could just be my daughter and mother ) Connie FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Thanks Connie. I have always wanted thinner hair cause mine was so thick if I tried to wear it long I had headaches from hell cause it was so heavy. It is longer now than it has ever been. My nails have slowed down. But that is ok cause they are not healthy. Its like I traded my nails for my hair. oh well Im breathing, I would have short hair and short nails for the rest of my life just for my health to be better... Would be nice if we had those kind of choices.... well ok it would be tooooo weird. lol ok now Im rambling. love d connie mcclain <crochetlady1001@...> wrote: Danne, I have good news for you!! My hair came back THICK and WAVY after about three month's cessation of tx. Yours will tooooooo!! (came back in with a lot of gray too, but that could just be my daughter and mother ) Connie FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Thanks Connie. I have always wanted thinner hair cause mine was so thick if I tried to wear it long I had headaches from hell cause it was so heavy. It is longer now than it has ever been. My nails have slowed down. But that is ok cause they are not healthy. Its like I traded my nails for my hair. oh well Im breathing, I would have short hair and short nails for the rest of my life just for my health to be better... Would be nice if we had those kind of choices.... well ok it would be tooooo weird. lol ok now Im rambling. love d connie mcclain <crochetlady1001@...> wrote: Danne, I have good news for you!! My hair came back THICK and WAVY after about three month's cessation of tx. Yours will tooooooo!! (came back in with a lot of gray too, but that could just be my daughter and mother ) Connie FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 2, 2005 Dick Im so glad you have not been having a real bad time. For me it was on average 1 good day a week during tx. But my health was bad when I started. Worse than that was my mental health. So mental plays a huge role in it.. Ok glad you are nearly done. d Dick Southern <southern@...> wrote: After tonight, there are just 7 shots to go.It hasn't been a bad trip so far. There was a lot more good days than bad days.I am looking forward to the new year. I have three 4 day conferences that I am planning between January and June....too busy to have a bad day.Dick FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 20, 2006 Good Goin Gail!..Im sooo proud of you!!..I just cant do it..not yet anyway...After tx we try and take good care of ourselves(gettin older doesnt help either!) LOL., unlike before tx..Ive gained so much because of all this & hope to do my best to stay as healthy as I possibly can. my carpal is aggravating. especially now that its cold, the boys have to do the cooking & carrying the basket to the dryer..and it gives my hands a break, but my problems are lil bitty compared to many here with life threatening problems.. Just wanted to say Hi to everyone...De? How are the migraines? Pat RE: Bayla Well you should be able to relax now and just keep looking after you body.I am 3wks smoke free. Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2006 The migraines come & go. Not so bad I can’t handle it. More of an aggravation than anything. De Re: Hey Good Goin Gail!..Im sooo proud of you!!..I just cant do it..not yet anyway...After tx we try and take good care of ourselves(gettin older doesnt help either!) LOL., unlike before tx..Ive gained so much because of all this & hope to do my best to stay as healthy as I possibly can. my carpal is aggravating. especially now that its cold, the boys have to do the cooking & carrying the basket to the dryer..and it gives my hands a break, but my problems are lil bitty compared to many here with life threatening problems.. Just wanted to say Hi to everyone...De? How are the migraines? Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Don't worry about quitting until you are truely ready cause that is when it will work with the help of Zyban.It took me long enough to get to this point after a year of trying.Take care of those wrists. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Pat McBrideSent: February 20, 2006 4:36 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Hey Good Goin Gail!..Im sooo proud of you!!..I just cant do it..not yet anyway...After tx we try and take good care of ourselves(gettin older doesnt help either!) LOL., unlike before tx..Ive gained so much because of all this & hope to do my best to stay as healthy as I possibly can. my carpal is aggravating. especially now that its cold, the boys have to do the cooking & carrying the basket to the dryer..and it gives my hands a break, but my problems are lil bitty compared to many here with life threatening problems.. Just wanted to say Hi to everyone...De? How are the migraines? Pat RE: Bayla Well you should be able to relax now and just keep looking after you body.I am 3wks smoke free. Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2006 do they know what is causing the migraines?Hope it eases up soon for you .Take care hon. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MotleySent: February 21, 2006 3:47 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey The migraines come & go. Not so bad I can’t handle it. More of an aggravation than anything. De -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of Pat McBrideSent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:36 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Hey Good Goin Gail!..Im sooo proud of you!!..I just cant do it..not yet anyway...After tx we try and take good care of ourselves(gettin older doesnt help either!) LOL., unlike before tx..Ive gained so much because of all this & hope to do my best to stay as healthy as I possibly can. my carpal is aggravating. especially now that its cold, the boys have to do the cooking & carrying the basket to the dryer..and it gives my hands a break, but my problems are lil bitty compared to many here with life threatening problems.. Just wanted to say Hi to everyone...De? How are the migraines? Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2006 They don’t have any idea. I’ve had them since I was about 15, so I’ve tried about everything for them. Stress usually aggravates them, but not always DURING the stress, sometimes AFTER it’s over. I just deal with it. RE: Hey do they know what is causing the migraines?Hope it eases up soon for you .Take care hon. Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2006 The only thing I can offer is a hearty here here! tto the what stress xcan do to you. I lost my hair for 1 1/2 yrs due to Alopecia Ariota. (When your hair falls out in clumps, about the size of a silver dollar.) Stress is really bad.. Del gail <gaila@...> wrote: That I can see.When I was under a great deal of stress,after it was over I would break out in a rash on my lower legs.There is different groups you can join that will teach you how to relax you and your body.Try it hon,it has helped a lot of people I know with hep and other illnesses.Have a great day. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MotleySent: February 21, 2006 3:03 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey They don’t have any idea. I’ve had them since I was about 15, so I’ve tried about everything for them. Stress usually aggravates them, but not always DURING the stress, sometimes AFTER it’s over. I just deal with it. -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of gailSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:17 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey do they know what is causing the migraines?Hope it eases up soon for you .Take care hon. Gail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2006 That I can see.When I was under a great deal of stress,after it was over I would break out in a rash on my lower legs.There is different groups you can join that will teach you how to relax you and your body.Try it hon,it has helped a lot of people I know with hep and other illnesses.Have a great day. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MotleySent: February 21, 2006 3:03 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey They don’t have any idea. I’ve had them since I was about 15, so I’ve tried about everything for them. Stress usually aggravates them, but not always DURING the stress, sometimes AFTER it’s over. I just deal with it. -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of gailSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:17 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey do they know what is causing the migraines?Hope it eases up soon for you .Take care hon. Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2006 Gaily Girl.... I JUST told the Mortgage Company the same thing yesterday!!! They will get the HOUSE NOTE WHEN I SEND IT!! And the power company, the phone, the $400.00 the POOL Boy wants for fixing the waterfall, the Galveston Yacht club,, and....the company that is stocking the Wine Cellar and Humidor!! The nerve of these creeps!! GEEZ>>>>>!! YEAH....RIGHT!!!!! JOKE!! HAHAHA!!!! Deliman gail <gaila@...> wrote: Stress is the worse thing for a person with hep .It makes their health problems flare up more. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of Del ComptonSent: February 22, 2006 8:42 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey The only thing I can offer is a hearty here here! tto the what stress xcan do to you. I lost my hair for 1 1/2 yrs due to Alopecia Ariota. (When your hair falls out in clumps, about the size of a silver dollar.) Stress is really bad.. Del gail <gaila@...> wrote: That I can see.When I was under a great deal of stress,after it was over I would break out in a rash on my lower legs.There is different groups you can join that will teach you how to relax you and your body.Try it hon,it has helped a lot of people I know with hep and other illnesses.Have a great day. Gail -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of MotleySent: February 21, 2006 3:03 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey They don’t have any idea. I’ve had them since I was about 15, so I’ve tried about everything for them. Stress usually aggravates them, but not always DURING the stress, sometimes AFTER it’s over. I just deal with it. -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of gailSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:17 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Hey do they know what is causing the migraines?Hope it eases up soon for you .Take care hon. Gail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
